EU settlement - Non EU family member - CoA and decision time

hrak1978 · Post by **hrak1978** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:02 pm

@askmeplz82

Application number to conduct ECS but in information box they my RC number too and after 3 days it came successful.

GeneRic · Post by **GeneRic** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:02 pm

Hello everyone,

First-time poster and coming with a pretty complicated query I'm afraid. I'd be really grateful if anyone could provide us with some guidance.

Background:

My father-in-law is an EEA (Romanian) citizen living in the UK who has been granted pre-settled status.

His wife is a non-EEA national (Moldovan) living in Moldova.

The Issue:

I understand from this thread (and the Gov.uk website) that non-EEA nationals are able to apply directly to the settled status scheme on the basis that they are the spouse of an EEA citizen. However, when we seek to apply online it immediately sends us to the 'prove your identity' section. None of the three means of proving identity (app, post, identity scanning location) appear to apply as she is not living in the UK nor does she have a biometric residence card. Indeed, as a Moldovan national she requires a visa to even visit the UK.

I am also aware of the EU Settled Status Family Permit, which she is eligible for. However, this does not grant permanent right to remain but simply the right to stay in the UK for 6 months.

My question is, which route should we pursue to obtain settled status for her?

Can we apply for settled status straight away (not being in UK and with no biometric residence permit), and if so which option do I select out of the three mentioned above to make the application?

Will she be required to first get the EUSS Family Permit and then in her 6 months in the UK apply for settled status?

Does the EUSS Family Permit qualify as a biometric residence permit for the above purpose?

Apologies for posing these questions if the answer is obvious but I feel so confused and would greatly appreciate any help people can offer on the best route forward.

Many thanks in advance.

hrak1978 · Post by **hrak1978** » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:37 pm

@GeneRic

Options:

FIRST STEP

She has to apply for one of below.

EEA FAMILY PERMIT
OR
EUSS FAMILY PERMIT

SECOND STEP

After arriving in UK
APPLY FOR RESIDENT CARD after completing 6 months

Or
APPLY IMMEDIATELY for PRE SETTLE STATUS

THIRD STEP

She has to complete 5 years under any one of both catagory then she can apply for PR or SETTLED STATUS.

She can't apply straight after arriving in UK for SETTLED STATUS.

askmeplz82 · Post by **askmeplz82** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:07 am

hrak1978 wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:02 pm
@askmeplz82

Application number to conduct ECS but in information box they my RC number too and after 3 days it came successful.

it's only Valid for 6 months right ?

hrak1978 · Post by **hrak1978** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:50 am

@askmeplz82

3 months but they can ECS again after 3 months.

Thats what the company HR department told me.

asdf8956 · Post by **asdf8956** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:29 pm

Did a pre-settled status for my daughter, she is non-EU, I am EU, with pre-settled status:
Application submitted - 1 Jul
Appointment for biometrics- 4 Jul
CoA - 24 Jul
Pre-settled status (same as mine) - 24 Jul
No BRP received in 10 w.days, form submitted via home office weblink- 7 Aug
Reply from Home office with delivery reference and rescheduled delivery - 9 Aug
(it seems that DX tried to deliver it but haven't left any card and never called)
The same day I have rescheduled the re-delivery to my work address via website (need delivery reference)
The envelope was delivered to work reception - 12 Aug

msnawan · Post by **msnawan** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:57 pm

my timeline:

applied for wife (european) = 30th June 2019
COA received = 3th June (within minutes)
had to provide further proof for residency
uploaded bank statements for 2013-2014-2014
Settled Status received = 02 July 2019

applied for my self (asian) = 2nd july
i linked my application with my wife's application number
pre settled offered same time
submitted further bank statements to proof residency
booked Biometric
biometric done on 9th July 2019

have not received anything so far

called them 10-15 times and they say everything is ok just wait for case worker to look at your application

i am so worried

We got married in 2014,
application refused (marriage of convenience)
appeal was allowed in 2017

and got residence for 5 years
sticker on my passport

Is this problem ?

can someone advise please ?

hrak1978 · Post by **hrak1978** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:01 pm

@msnawan

Nothing to worry at all.

Just relax. U will get a news. Did u uploaded your wife eu ID or passport? If yes then relax.

iibdii · Post by **iibdii** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:47 pm

@hrak
As you advised i applied through the weblink. Had my bios done on 9th as well and so far haven't got any COA or decision of my appeal hearing i know it was weekend but today i got a letter from my work that i can not continue to work if i dont prove my right of work within 4 weeks from today.
Question is do you think ill get my coa by then and would it give me right of work? My 5year permit has lapsed now and if decision come against me i will be illegal.
Thanks for your time

hrak1978 · Post by **hrak1978** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:35 pm

@iibdii

I think until Friday which is 16th u should receive it. If not then call them as they are opened 7 days and ask them about COA. U must have your application number now. Tell them u applied and didnt receive COA and u need to work. And esclate it to the caseworker.

msnawan · Post by **msnawan** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:59 am

hrak1978 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:01 pm
@msnawan

Nothing to worry at all.

Just relax. U will get a news. Did u uploaded your wife eu ID or passport? If yes then relax.

Thanks for your reply. I forgot to upload her ID Document. But however now i have logged in to my application account and uploaded her ID too.

Is there anything else i should do?

mastropierro · Post by **mastropierro** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:09 am

I am non-EU and my partner is EU. My partner got pre-status two/three days after he applied, then I applied based on his successful application number.

Online applied: 29th May
Bio collection done: 2nd July
No COA
No decision

I have called them three times over last week, but every time they only said it is waiting and sorry for it balabala. I told them that I need it because I need to travel in 3 weeks but nothing happened. I also sent an email to my MP, they asked for my application number said they will ask HO.

Any suggests what else I can do?

hrak1978 · Post by **hrak1978** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:24 pm

@msnawan

Nothing else for now.

Wait until Friday if u didnt receive any COA then call them on Friday.

Littlemoor · Post by **Littlemoor** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:31 pm

Bio metrics done on 12 July
Email sent for coa ( to get quick decsion ) on 12 august
14 August. 5.35pm. COA
Now decsion Waiting..

I am very very excited.
What will I be getting??? People they offered me pre settle last month when I applied online.

Wife got settle stattus.
Married since June 2013. English marriage
Me. Non eea card. Residence card of a remember of European national since March 2015 to March 2020.

Have attached my 7 year old marriage certificate.. Wife passport copy..

I am 70% sure, now, I will get settle stattus, but I do not know why I am still worried...

Read the caseworker guide lines, meeting the criteria.. In my view..

Need your advise and confirmation...
Will let you all know, as I get reply..

Final advise from me.... write them a email... if you want things to go faster, for them we are just numbers and files..

Please share your experience...on my situation...

Thanks

Littlemoor · Post by **Littlemoor** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:26 pm

SuperH wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:29 pm
Send them email, it will progress fast.
Hi all i am non EU
I been married with EU national since 2014 i still have 3 years on my RC
my timeline is as follows:

EU settlement: April 2019
COA: May
nearly 4 months now i called resolution centre
and they said everything is ok and is still processing
i called again and they escalated my case.
Don’t know why its taking so long because it should be
straight forward. thanks

iibdii · Post by **iibdii** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:38 am

I was not aware of uploading wife Passport, neither fid it ask, i uploaded ten documents and wife irish passport is not one of them, there is no linking of application involved either. Im afraid if my appeal of EU PR refuses the SS team won't entertain me either.

iibdii · Post by **iibdii** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:44 am

Hello enzo did you get it sorted in the end my partner is irish as well so she didn't apply did you send her passport and how long did it take for coa.

Enzos wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:31 pm
My timeline so far.

Non EU citizen married to Irish citizen. Separated but still married.

Moved to the UK back in 2014. Granted with a Residence document vignette in my passport valid until 1st August this year.

On 8th of July 2019 went for biometrics.

Still waiting for a CoA. No email whatsoever from them. I called them they said the 4 days processing time on the website is for the EU nationals. Non EU nationals takes longer (no indication as to what "Longer" actually means).

My children are british citizens through their mother (Her dad is English)

My wife is Irish so no need for her to apply.

Anybody experiencing delays. If possible anybody who is married to an Irish citizen could you tell me if you were required to prove your Irish spouse's 5 year residence, work, ID etc...? Im asking because we're separated so don't actually have the full documents for her Tax only some years. Although they didn't ask me this anyway.

Would love to hear from Non EU citizens married to Irisih citizens.

Thank you

Zerubbabel · Post by **Zerubbabel** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:01 am

GeneRic wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:02 pm
Hello everyone,

First-time poster and coming with a pretty complicated query I'm afraid. I'd be really grateful if anyone could provide us with some guidance.

Background:

My father-in-law is an EEA (Romanian) citizen living in the UK who has been granted pre-settled status.

His wife is a non-EEA national (Moldovan) living in Moldova.

The Issue:

I understand from this thread (and the Gov.uk website) that non-EEA nationals are able to apply directly to the settled status scheme on the basis that they are the spouse of an EEA citizen. However, when we seek to apply online it immediately sends us to the 'prove your identity' section. None of the three means of proving identity (app, post, identity scanning location) appear to apply as she is not living in the UK nor does she have a biometric residence card. Indeed, as a Moldovan national she requires a visa to even visit the UK.

I am also aware of the EU Settled Status Family Permit, which she is eligible for. However, this does not grant permanent right to remain but simply the right to stay in the UK for 6 months.

My question is, which route should we pursue to obtain settled status for her?

Can we apply for settled status straight away (not being in UK and with no biometric residence permit), and if so which option do I select out of the three mentioned above to make the application?

Will she be required to first get the EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit and then in her 6 months in the UK apply for settled status?

Does the EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit qualify as a biometric residence permit for the above purpose?

Apologies for posing these questions if the answer is obvious but I feel so confused and would greatly appreciate any help people can offer on the best route forward.

Many thanks in advance.

You should have opened a new thread as this one is mainly for timelines.

My understanding is that no one can settle in the UK while living abroad. That person is in Moldova, there is no way she get the settled status (equivalent of permanent residence) while there.

She has to take it step-by-step. First apply for the EEA family permit (the 6 month one), then come to the UK and start a life here. She can then apply for pre-settled status which 5 years later (if nothing chances) can be turned into settled status / permanent residence.

mbay · Post by **mbay** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:27 am

I have also been told that my application is being held up "by an IT issue."
Feeling pretty annoyed as I submitted my application in April and it is now 4 months later.
My husband is an EU national and got approved for his status in less than 24 hours!
We've been living together in the UK since early 2016 - him under treaty rights and me with a Tier 1 visa that will soon be expiring.

Still waiting on decision...calling every day just to be told my case is "escalated" every time and just to wait. So frustrating. Anyone in a similar situation?? I am getting worried!

rebmar wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:17 pm
Still without a decision. Have been in touch with my MP who made an enquiry regarding my case and was told that an IT issue is the cause of the delay. It has been over two weeks since I received this news and still no resolution. Every time I call, I am told that the case is being escalated to the IT department. This is getting to be unnerving.

Has anyone else had their case held up by an IT issue or is it just me?

rebmar wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:34 pm
I am a non-EEA spouse of an Italian. He applied for and received settled status within 2 weeks of his application. I do not have anresidence permit or BRC as I've entered the UK with the EEA treaty stamp at the airport. I've been living with my husband in the UK since August 2018 and applied for pre-settled status.

Submitted my application: May 24th
Biometrics: May 29
COA: May 30
Decision: Still waiting

I sent an email to enquire about the progress of the application around June 3rd. They responded within 2 days that my biometrics have been received and verified & that my case was being considered. I called resolution centre yesterday (June 27) but pretty much got the same answer that was in my email. Hoping for a decision soon.

Littlemoor · Post by **Littlemoor** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:48 pm

Littlemoor wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:31 pm
Any advise for me, now How long i have to wait ...

Bio metrics done on 12 July
Email sent for coa ( to get quick decsion ) on 12 august
14 August. 5.35pm. COA
Now decsion Waiting..

I am very very excited.
What will I be getting??? People they offered me pre settle last month when I applied online.

Wife got settle stattus.
Married since June 2013. English marriage
Me. Non eea card. Residence card of a remember of European national since March 2015 to March 2020.

Have attached my 7 year old marriage certificate.. Wife passport copy..

I am 70% sure, now, I will get settle stattus, but I do not know why I am still worried...

Read the caseworker guide lines, meeting the criteria.. In my view..

Need your advise and confirmation...
Will let you all know, as I get reply..

Final advise from me.... write them a email... if you want things to go faster, for them we are just numbers and files..

Please share your experience...on my situation...

Thanks

PrimeNumbers · Post by **PrimeNumbers** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:09 pm

Any help or advice, or even if you just let me know you're in the same situation, will be greatly appreciated.

TL;DR: MAIN ISSUE - MY IMMIGRATION STATUS DOCUMENT EXPIRED WHILE WAITING

Married EU spouse: April 2014
Immigration status document (it's an A4 sheet of paper, a derivative of residence card/permit) issued: July 2014
Living in UK: since 2011 - first as student, then work, then as student, and now working
Applied to EU Settlement Scheme: July 2nd
Biometrics: July 3rd
No CoA
No decision

My immigration status document officially expired July 30th. I'm pretty stressed out right now. From speaking to councsel, it seems like I can legally live and work, but proving that - if necessary - and evidencing my status here at the border seems impossible. I am already working and there are no issues from my employers.

I've called, emailed on multiple occasions. I've been told that it's a technical issue with my biometrics (which requires no further actions from me) delaying my application. They haven't even started "processing" my application in that sense yet, just because they're still waiting for this to be resolved.

1) Anyone advice on what to do? Should I just continue to wait and cancel all my travel plans? I'm from a country that actually doesn't require a tourist/business visa to visit UK, but I'm scared of running into border issues.
And related to this: 2) Presumably no point apply for the residence card/permanent residence as that will require biometrics?

I have never had an immigration issue before and feel quite unsettled. I feel very uncomfortable not having a proper document to prove my rights either...

PrimeNumbers · Post by **PrimeNumbers** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:11 pm

Ooops, sorry. Been reading too much. Not a derivative residence card. Basically I had applied for residence card but they issues me an immigration status document which confers the same rights (they didn't have my passports, and gave me a piece of A4 instead). I'm married to an EU citizen. Hope that clarifies!

Littlemoor · Post by **Littlemoor** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:29 pm

They send me email today.
Asking me to send some proof from 2014 July to 2015 September...
And that it..
Please advise.

I will be sending my bank statements for that period.
As I was living with family I did not work or rent a home then
Is it ok..
@hark1978... you know my situation...

hrak1978 · Post by **hrak1978** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:50 pm

@littlemoor

Yes it fine you can send your statements for this period.

There is another way, speak to HMRC and tell them you need your 5 years of employment history. Even if you didnt work in that period they will confirm it in that time period that letter will suffice.

But if you got monthly bank statement then you need 12 or go to the branch and ask for annual summary of your bank account. It will suffice the requirement too.

hrak1978 · Post by **hrak1978** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:58 pm

@PrimeNumbers

Please tell your employer to conduct ECS and it will show your right to work.

Secondly regarding your application involve your local MP. HO sent an updated email today to me or anyone can subcribe that they processed 1 million EU Settlement scheme application since this scheme was launched.

Its a massive figure.

I think its my own opinion that involving MP will bring something optimistic. I have that experience.

And believe EU RESOLUTION CENTRE HELPLINE is one of the most friendly team I have ever came across.

Not even any mobile network customer service is sweet as they are.

My suggestion is to involve your local MP tell him the wholw case history in an email.

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