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I'm afraid the non-EU family member must have lived in the host EU state before January 1st 2021. Check here: https://www.gov.uk/family-permit/surinder-singh
You must have lived with them in that country before 1 January 2021
First time I hear this, can you please share a link to your source?
I don't think these two quotes are about the exact same issue. They are not mutually exclusive.kamoe wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:20 pmFirst time I hear this, can you please share a link to your source?
The only information I can find is the requirement, black on white, of the non-EU family member having lived in the host country before 1st January 2020. That's both for EEA FP and EEUS FP.
If any other member with more experience on the matter has any insights, then I'll be curious to learn about this.
There are two separate questions here, but they are not independent from each other:ALKB wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:12 amI don't think these two quotes are about the exact same issue. They are not mutually exclusive.
The Surinder Singh information that Kamoe quoted states that non-EEA spouses of British people who lived together in an EU country before 1st January 2021 are eligible to apply.
OP's quote seems to be about until when this type of application can be made.
As I understand it, one can be married before or after 31st January 2020 - and the application deadline may or may not be affected by this - but the non-EEA spouse still had to reside with the British spouse in the host country before 1st January 2021.
I also found a solicitors website with similar information, but there is never a mention there that clearly spells out any provision to allow applications even if the non-EU did not live in the EU host state before January 1st 2021.I couldn't find an official government source for the exact quotes OP posted - they do appear on a Lawyer's website
I completely agree!kamoe wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 12:13 pm
The point of my comment is that given the OPs description of their situation, and the fact that their wife only joined them in the EU host state in March 2021, I fear they cannot apply, and they might first ask themselves question no. 1 before even wondering about question no. 2. That's all I'm saying.
Hence why I am asking the OPs for the source.
I think the condition is likely an "AND", not an "OR".Briton wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:29 pmThere is a provision in this law that you are either living together in Europe before 1 January 2021 "OR" your relationship started before 01-01-2021.
That's why I mentioned the year of marriage.
•British nationals who formed a relationship with their family member (spouse, durable partner, child, dependent parent) before 31st January 2020 must return to the UK before 29th March 2022.
•British nationals who started their relationship their family member (spouse, durable partner, child, dependant parent) after 31st January 2020 must have returned to the UK and apply before 31st December 2020.
So, for an application for the Surinder Singh route to be made under the EU Settled Status route, the conditions of Regulation 9 of the EEA Regulations 2016 still need to have been met before 31st December 2020.(b) they satisfied the conditions in regulation 9(2), (3) and (4)(a) of the EEA Regulations (as the family member (“F”) to whom those provisions refer) or, as the case may be, the conditions in regulation 9(1A)(b), (2), (3) and (4)(a) of the EEA Regulations (as the extended family member (“EFM”) to whom those provisions refer), in either case doing so:
(i) before the specified date; and
(ii) (...) immediately before returning to the UK with the qualifying British citizen (who is to be treated as the British citizen (“BC”) to whom those provisions refer); and
If someone does not meet the criteria to apply for a given immigration route, seeing a solicitor won't change that. A reputable solicitor will tell you the exact same thing we already told you.
If you do choose to consult a lawyer, can you ask him to have a look at this thread and let us know what points he disagrees on if he disagrees with any points in this thread.