Home or International fees.. Urgent Please

expdoct · Post by **expdoct** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:52 pm

Hi Greenie,
Thank you very much for the reply. I understand that it will depend on the university to give the exemption of one or two month (initial period of the UK entry). I had left for Nigeria when I was 11 years old. My parents had moved permanently to Nigeria and I had no choice but to move along with them. I kept on getting education there. However I had only British passport all along. I have purchased the property one year back and had no contacts in past years (earlier than October, 2009). In Nigeria, I was on Nigerian visa for whole of my life. Based on this, my question is whether universities can allow me for 1-2 month exemption.

Thanks

Greenie · Post by **Greenie** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:17 pm

They would have to exercise discretion and would be under no obligation to assess you as a home student. You will have to apply and see what they say.

expdoct · Post by **expdoct** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:59 pm

Greenie wrote:They would have to exercise discretion and would be under no obligation to assess you as a home student. You will have to apply and see what they say.

Thank you for the reply. Does it make sense to show the contact with Uncle/Aunt (However I have no evidence to prove it except giving the reference and address) or does it make sense to avoid my entry date to UK (1st week of October, 2009) while filling the fees - questionaire.

Thanks

Greenie · Post by **Greenie** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:00 pm

expdoct wrote:
Greenie wrote:They would have to exercise discretion and would be under no obligation to assess you as a home student. You will have to apply and see what they say.
Thank you for the reply. Does it make sense to show the contact with Uncle/Aunt (However I have no evidence to prove it except giving the reference and address) or does it make sense to avoid my entry date to UK (1st week of October, 2009) while filling the fees - questionaire.

Thanks

It does not make sense to lie to the university about the date you came back to the UK because if you do they could withdraw your place. They would also ask for evidence that you have you have been ordinarily residence in the UK for the 3 years. I don't see how being in contact with your aunt and uncle is of any relevence.

expdoct · Post by **expdoct** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:30 pm

Greenie wrote:
expdoct wrote:
Greenie wrote:They would have to exercise discretion and would be under no obligation to assess you as a home student. You will have to apply and see what they say.
Thank you for the reply. Does it make sense to show the contact with Uncle/Aunt (However I have no evidence to prove it except giving the reference and address) or does it make sense to avoid my entry date to UK (1st week of October, 2009) while filling the fees - questionaire.

Thanks
It does not make sense to lie to the university about the date you came back to the UK because if you do they could withdraw your place. They would also ask for evidence that you have you have been ordinarily residence in the UK for the 3 years. I don't see how being in contact with your aunt and uncle is of any relevence.

The problem is, the university usually offers the admission first (in my case, the admission is already offered) and then sends the fees - questionaire. After a good struggle, I am getting the admission - offer (after sending some nice references and application fees). If a university could initially have sent the fees status (before offering me admission or at the best before my application) and decided my fees status, it would have saved my struggle/ application - money. So I was just contemplating whether one month residence gap could be avoided.

Greenie · Post by **Greenie** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:43 pm

Universities have thousands of applications each year they can't be expected to fee assess every applicant. Just tell the truth and see what they say. If they assess you as international then defer your place to start next year.

expdoct · Post by **expdoct** » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:31 pm

Greenie wrote:Universities have thousands of applications each year they can't be expected to fee assess every applicant. Just tell the truth and see what they say. If they assess you as international then defer your place to start next year.

I am sorry but I feel only small percentage of people (may be less than 1% applicant) might fall under the conditions like me (or at the worst, who have British citizenship and have stayed here for more than two years). Anyway I will be writing the truth.

No_marriage_certificate · Post by **No_marriage_certificate** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:10 pm

Greenie wrote:
No_marriage_certificate wrote:
Greenie wrote:
sarahassy wrote:Hello mikilo,i'm exactly in the same boat like u,and i want to start my masters in september,i think being a family member of eea u r entitled to all benefits the eea member enjoy,so i think u study as a home student.Get your COA plus all the photocopies of your application and take them to the uni u want to study they will register u as ahome student.
hi there,

There is no requirement to have been "lawfully" resident in the UK 3 years prior to start of your studies. Only major requirement is to have some form of status before the 1st day of the academic year you are intending to begin (1st september). I am 100% sure of this as i have helped about 5 of my family and friend s put their application through to student finance and on ucas. 1 had indefinite leave to remain after 10 years of being in the country illegally, and the other 4 were MArried to EU citizens for less than a year but have been in the uk for 5,6 & 7 years each unlawfully prior to this. NB- they all recieved their status before the 1st of september for the year they were applying to begin their studies.

in conclusion, its not as complex as we think it is! just make sure u are MARRIED to your EU partner, and for those with indefinite, you should have LIVED in the UK for 3 yrs or more prior to this (be it legally or illegally).
you may have 'helped' people, but I am quoting the law and where the law requires ordinary residence, this does not include unlawful residence. Some universities exercise discretion, others make mistakes, each situation is different. The OP has been referred to the information he needs.

I totally disagree with you, it does not require any discretion. The onus to prove that they have lived in the UK for 3 years prior to the start of course is the only obligation due. Put aside the fact that i have helped people, it is infact the case. Legal or illegal in the last 3 years is not their business. What in fact is important is that you have your leave to remain prior to the 1st day of the academic year.

May i also add to further butress my point that i have worked as a fee assessor in 3 different universities in the UK and the rules and regs do not differ at all!

No_marriage_certificate · Post by **No_marriage_certificate** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:12 pm

newbieholland wrote:Does this mean you have to have three years of residence right before commmencing the course or there can be a break of few years in between?

3 years continous residence before 1st september of the year you're applying to start

expdoct · Post by **expdoct** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:26 pm

Hi,
I am a British Citizen (by birth) however I have returned to UK after 15 years. I am staying in UK since October, 2009 (with a support of continuous utility bills, council tax). Since my entry to UK, I am working here. Now I am looking for post graduation in the academic year 2012-13. I have received offer with home fees from some univ. (4-5 univ. in UK, including London) but one univ. is charging me international fees. Now this particular univ. says that other universities are not following the UKCISA rule exactly. Can anyone please tell which version might be right. I was very much interested in this particular university because of my residence in this city. Just for your information, the documents, form - information (related to residence like continuous utility Bills from October, 2009 to Till now) had been submitted all the same in all these universities while filling the fees questionnaire form.

Thanks,
Steve

expdoct · Post by **expdoct** » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:20 am

expdoct wrote:Hi,
I am a British Citizen (by birth) however I have returned to UK after 15 years. I am staying in UK since October, 2009 (with a support of continuous utility bills, council tax). Since my entry to UK, I am working here. Now I am looking for post graduation in the academic year 2012-13. I have received offer with home fees from some univ. (4-5 univ. in UK, including London) but one univ. is charging me international fees. Now this particular univ. says that other universities are not following the UKCISA rule exactly. Can anyone please tell which version might be right. I was very much interested in this particular university because of my residence in this city. Just for your information, the documents, form - information (related to residence like continuous utility Bills from October, 2009 to Till now) had been submitted all the same in all these universities while filling the fees questionnaire form.

Thanks,
Steve

Can anybody reply to my query.

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