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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by marynatassos » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:33 pm

Hello All,

I hope somebody can help me.

I am non EU, married to EU citizen and we both have settled status now. After reading on gov.com and this forum I decided to apply for EUSS for my non EU parents.

But I just had a call with immigration lawyer and he said that I can only apply for them if they are already in the UK, for example on tourist visa.
My parents are not in UK at the moment and they do not depend on me, so there is no way for them to join me?

So question, did anyone applied for EUSS family permit for their non EU parent while they were outside of the UK?

Thank you for any help.

M

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by Zerubbabel » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:51 pm

marynatassos wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:33 pm
Hello All,

I hope somebody can help me.

I am non EU, married to EU citizen and we both have settled status now. After reading on gov.com and this forum I decided to apply for EUSS for my non EU parents.

But I just had a call with immigration lawyer and he said that I can only apply for them if they are already in the UK, for example on tourist visa.
My parents are not in UK at the moment and they do not depend on me, so there is no way for them to join me?

So question, did anyone applied for EUSS family permit for their non EU parent while they were outside of the UK?

Thank you for any help.

M
People are just doing that all the time. Just search in the forum, there are bringing in-laws and parents from abroad using the EU Settlement Scheme. If your parents aren't dependent, it's fine. The Home Office "assumes" the dependency and doesn't ask to see anything to confirm it. You being non-EU is also ok as they accept your family members the same way they would for an EEA national.

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by marynatassos » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:56 pm

Zerubbabel wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:51 pm
marynatassos wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:33 pm
Hello All,

I hope somebody can help me.

I am non EU, married to EU citizen and we both have settled status now. After reading on gov.com and this forum I decided to apply for EUSS for my non EU parents.

But I just had a call with immigration lawyer and he said that I can only apply for them if they are already in the UK, for example on tourist visa.
My parents are not in UK at the moment and they do not depend on me, so there is no way for them to join me?

So question, did anyone applied for EUSS family permit for their non EU parent while they were outside of the UK?

Thank you for any help.

M
People are just doing that all the time. Just search in the forum, there are bringing in-laws and parents from abroad using the EU Settlement Scheme. If your parents aren't dependent, it's fine. The Home Office "assumes" the dependency and doesn't ask to see anything to confirm it. You being non-EU is also ok as they accept your family members the same way they would for an EEA national.
Hi there,

Tahnk you very much and sorry for same questions over and over. I am just reading through all posts.

But my question is - can they apply if they are not in the UK now, as I just spoke to the lawyer and he said that they can only apply of they are in the UK. :( This is confusing

Thanks a lot.

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by Zerubbabel » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:08 pm

JB007 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:59 pm
Zerubbabel wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:08 am
Let's wait January and you will see.

I am not claiming they are going to revoke the EUSS or ignore the withdrawal agreement. However, in that Agreement, it has never been said, signed and guaranteed that a non-EU citizen can bring non-EU citizens because he/she is married to an EU citizen. That's to say, a Pakistani married to a Polish, can now automatically bring his mother and father under the Withdrawal Agreement. We are in a country where many British citizen cannot bring a husband or a wife and parents are separated from their children because they don't meet the financial requirements.

I think that the current application of the EUSS went well beyond the intent letter published after the Brexit. I think the Home Office is under political pressure to accept any application just for the UK to show good faith during the negotiations.

That where my rational comes from. If you are non-EEA and want to bring non-EEA, do it now as the country is going through exceptional circumstances that makes it possible. Watch this space in 2021 where you will see a storm of refusals as the Home Office gets more liberty to interpret the rules.
Or they have to end up paying for their dependants themselves? The UK and Germany said they found people were using free movement for what they can take, with the UK saying they would stop that and they are.

If you only look at the benefit side for those of UK state pension age and not for those of working age or for the NHS: on age UK-

You will need to have settled status to claim benefits like Pension Credit and Housing Benefit. You will need settled status to get help with housing from the council.
https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-ad ... er-brexit/

Many believe that Pension Credit is a short lived benefit, why else would the UK raise the new state pension, to just above the cap for Pension Credit? The UK have already ended part of Pension Credit.

And Pension Credit, even if only 50p a week, is a passport to other benefits. e.g. full rent being paid, no council tax to pay, free tv licence. Those pensioners who have more pension amount than the Pension Credit cap, have to pay for themselves, even if they end up worse off than somebody claiming Pension Credit. It would be a vote winner to end Pension Credit.
Most people who bring relatives don't truly realise the cost. So the dependency will end up claimed against the community. But the immigration system in this country is meant to be irrational and unfair.

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by Zerubbabel » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:09 pm

marynatassos wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:56 pm
Zerubbabel wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:51 pm
marynatassos wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:33 pm
Hello All,

I hope somebody can help me.

I am non EU, married to EU citizen and we both have settled status now. After reading on gov.com and this forum I decided to apply for EUSS for my non EU parents.

But I just had a call with immigration lawyer and he said that I can only apply for them if they are already in the UK, for example on tourist visa.
My parents are not in UK at the moment and they do not depend on me, so there is no way for them to join me?

So question, did anyone applied for EUSS family permit for their non EU parent while they were outside of the UK?

Thank you for any help.

M
People are just doing that all the time. Just search in the forum, there are bringing in-laws and parents from abroad using the EU Settlement Scheme. If your parents aren't dependent, it's fine. The Home Office "assumes" the dependency and doesn't ask to see anything to confirm it. You being non-EU is also ok as they accept your family members the same way they would for an EEA national.
Hi there,

Tahnk you very much and sorry for same questions over and over. I am just reading through all posts.

But my question is - can they apply if they are not in the UK now, as I just spoke to the lawyer and he said that they can only apply of they are in the UK. :( This is confusing

Thanks a lot.
Yes they can apply from outside the UK. That's what people are routinely doing.

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by butchikMD » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:26 am

1878 wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:59 pm
6 months
Thank you @1878. One more question please, when the close family members arrive in the UK with the EUSS Family Permit, how soon can they file for the EUSS pre-settled status? Reading some of the posts here in the forum suggest that they can as soon as they get here in the UK.

I'm a bit confused on the government guidance (https://www.gov.uk/family-permit/stay-a ... it-expires) because my understanding is that they can only apply for pre-settled status once the family permit expires. Is that right? Please enlighten me.

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by Zerubbabel » Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:17 am

Why do you want to let your permit expire in the UK, have no status, then only apply?

As for any immigration application, you apply always before the end of the current status you hold.

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by butchikMD » Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:43 pm

Zerubbabel wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:17 am
Why do you want to let your permit expire in the UK, have no status, then only apply?

As for any immigration application, you apply always before the end of the current status you hold.
Thanks. I won’t risk expiring the current status before filing for a new one, that’s why I wanted that clarified. Would you know how soon one with FP can apply for pre-settled status? We plan to bring our old folks in Dec. I understand the FP is valid for 6 months so just want to know the earliest time we can put them to EUSS.

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Post by Zerubbabel » Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:08 pm

As soon as you land in the UK you can apply. There is no need to wait. The FP gives you that window for application.

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by butchikMD » Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:45 pm

Thanks a lot, Zerubabbel! That’s really helpful.

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by jattsaab » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:48 pm

Hi
My wife have dual nationality and I already applied lounes settled status just waiting for decisions, my question is can I apply for my parent from abroad EUSS ?

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Post by Zerubbabel » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:20 am

Your parents would go Lounes.

It's a bit more difficult than just EUSS as it requires a paper document. By why not?

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by Mrsdoc » Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:29 am

1878 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:25 am
Hi.

As a thank you to the forum I want to share my experience of how to successfully apply for a EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law.

I am a EEA national married to a Non-EEA national. We both received settled status earlier this year after having had permanent residence for a number of years.

I decided to only supply the bare minimum of documents which worked. We supplied:

Non-eea parents passports and ID cards.
VFS application centre confirmation
Application checklist
Our marriage certificate (translated and certified copy)
Non-EEA national birth certificate (translated and certified copy)
Copy of EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national ID card (back and front)

We uploaded everything online and the applicants brought their passports, ID cards and copy of checklist and appointment confirmation to the centre.

I ticked off for financial dependency and entered a number but did not supply proof of this as dependency is assumed.

Biometrics done 6th August, e-mailed paid UKVI service which confirmed on 26th Aug decision had been made. Today 18th Sep parents-in-law went to VFS centre to collect their passport without receiving any notification. Visa sticker stamped with 17th August.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Hi, we have also applied under the EUSS family permit for my mom. I’m a non Eu and my husband is a British/Irish.You have mentioned that you ticked off the financial dependency and entered a number but I don’t recall seeing that in the application. There’s also a part at the end of the checklist where it refers to the information about a visit, money, assets etc. Does it have to be provided as part of the EUSS FP?
I’m confused on that part and I’ll appreciate if you could answer my query.
Thank you.

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by 1878 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:40 pm

No proof of financial dependency is required.

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Post by Mrsdoc » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:41 pm

1878 wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:40 pm
No proof of financial dependency is required.
Thank you!

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by juttdon » Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:03 pm

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1878 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:25 am
Hi.

As a thank you to the forum I want to share my experience of how to successfully apply for a EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law.

I am a EEA national married to a Non-EEA national. We both received settled status earlier this year after having had permanent residence for a number of years.

I decided to only supply the bare minimum of documents which worked. We supplied:

Non-eea parents passports and ID cards.
VFS application centre confirmation
Application checklist
Our marriage certificate (translated and certified copy)
Non-EEA national birth certificate (translated and certified copy)
Copy of EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national ID card (back and front)

We uploaded everything online and the applicants brought their passports, ID cards and copy of checklist and appointment confirmation to the centre.

I ticked off for financial dependency and entered a number but did not supply proof of this as dependency is assumed.

Biometrics done 6th August, e-mailed paid UKVI service which confirmed on 26th Aug decision had been made. Today 18th Sep parents-in-law went to VFS centre to collect their passport without receiving any notification. Visa sticker stamped with 17th August.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Hi, im EU national and applying for Same EUSS family permit for my non EEA father in law, i ticked yes for financial dependency option and enter the amount as you said above
but now at the end of the application they asking to provide money transfer receipt and accommodation proof,
do i have to provide those or i can leave those boxes unchecked and dont provide them as financial dependency is assumed in this case, please advice thanks

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by 1878 » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:47 pm

As I already mentioned you don’t need to provide any proof of dependency

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by NV319 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:39 pm

Hi there,

There is a question on the online application that says how are my non eu parents in touch/contact with my EU spouse. What should i answer there if my parents are unaware of my eu spouse (due to personal reasons)? Would this be a reason for refusal for EUSS FP?!

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Post by NV319 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:41 pm

Also could I please know what is written on the visa sticker they put in the passport? Moreover, what is the checklist document you refer to?

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Post by LillyPearl » Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:00 pm

So, if dependency is assumed and there is no need to provide proof of money transfers, why do we have to tick yes in the relevant box? I would expect that ticking yes or no for dependency will make no difference.
And, yes, I ticked no on behalf of my mother, and there is no way to correct it now, so based on what is said above, the application will be rejected and all this will be an exercise in nothing and we will miss the 30th June deadline and then I will have to start sending her money for real so that we can apply again in the future with proof that she is financially dependent. Am I right in this?

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Post by fmdddv » Tue May 04, 2021 6:58 am

Hi, thanks for sharing.
Did you start the application online yourself from the UK or did your parents have to do it themselves from where they are?

Thank you.

1878 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:25 am
Hi.

As a thank you to the forum I want to share my experience of how to successfully apply for a EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law.

I am a EEA national married to a Non-EEA national. We both received settled status earlier this year after having had permanent residence for a number of years.

I decided to only supply the bare minimum of documents which worked. We supplied:

Non-eea parents passports and ID cards.
VFS application centre confirmation
Application checklist
Our marriage certificate (translated and certified copy)
Non-EEA national birth certificate (translated and certified copy)
Copy of EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national passport
Copy of Non-EEA national ID card (back and front)

We uploaded everything online and the applicants brought their passports, ID cards and copy of checklist and appointment confirmation to the centre.

I ticked off for financial dependency and entered a number but did not supply proof of this as dependency is assumed.

Biometrics done 6th August, e-mailed paid UKVI service which confirmed on 26th Aug decision had been made. Today 18th Sep parents-in-law went to VFS centre to collect their passport without receiving any notification. Visa sticker stamped with 17th August.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by NV319 » Wed May 05, 2021 2:54 pm

LillyPearl wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:00 pm
So, if dependency is assumed and there is no need to provide proof of money transfers, why do we have to tick yes in the relevant box? I would expect that ticking yes or no for dependency will make no difference.
And, yes, I ticked no on behalf of my mother, and there is no way to correct it now, so based on what is said above, the application will be rejected and all this will be an exercise in nothing and we will miss the 30th June deadline and then I will have to start sending her money for real so that we can apply again in the future with proof that she is financially dependent. Am I right in this?

I dont believe your application will be rejected to be very honest with you. Under the EUSS, as long as you show that your mother is your mother (via your birth certificate) and show that you have a place to live (your house contract for example) and also show that you have PRE-settled or settled status (providing reference number of it on your mums application), then you should be all good to go! But please do let me know how it goes and what the outcome will be.

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Post by LillyPearl » Mon May 10, 2021 4:50 pm

I am a naturalised UK citizen, with retained EU citizenship, so no settled status, I'm afraid. My mother has a biometric appointment this week and I don't know if we should go ahead with it or just cancel and start again.
Cancellation seems to be just as much of a nightmare.

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Re: How to successfully apply for EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit for parents-in-law

Post by saddleback » Wed May 19, 2021 3:00 pm

Hello, we want to apply for EUSS family permit for my mother in law. I am Irish but never bothered applying for EUSS scheme but have a document certifying permanent residence obtained in 2018. My non-EU wife, the mother of the applicant, has a pre-settled status under EUSS scheme.

Would someone be kind to tell me who is the right sponsor for purposes of EUSS family permit application - myself or my wife?

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Post by secret.simon » Wed May 19, 2021 3:03 pm

saddleback wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 3:00 pm
My non-EU wife, the mother of the applicant
Presumably you meant that your non-EU wife is the daughter of the applicant, not the mother?
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