Non-EU applications for Settled and Pre-Settled status - Criteria and outcomes

inesbankole wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:18 am

Hi all,
Quick advice please guys.
I am non eu citizen married to a eu citizen but no living together anymore.
I have my 5 year residence card and still valid until 2021.
I am planning to travel outside the Uk in may for 2 months.
I want to apply for the pre settled status, i started the application but missing the payslip of the last 6 months of my Wife
I begged her but she is not willing to give it to me.
I do have some of her payslips but it is not recent at all 1 year ago payslips.
I do not know what to do.
I don't want to find myslef in trouble at the border when i return from my trip.
Please helpppp.
Thanks in advance

lunallena wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:47 pm

This is my timeline

Years in UK: 8.5
Years on EEA RC/FP: 1.7 (previously on Tier 4 and Tier 2)
Applied: 21.01.2019
Status offered: Pre-settled
Outcome: Pre-settled status granted
Date of outcome: 04.02.2019

Rob19 wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:27 am

kamoe wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:52 am

I'd like to build a picture of how Settled and Pre-Settled status criteria is applied to non-EU family members of EU citizens. There has been a lot of speculation in different topics, regarding maximum waiting time, and what exactly counts towards the 5 years to be granted Settled Status.

Could any non-EU people having gone through the Settled Status application please share their outcome and circumstances as below?

For example, mine are:

Years in UK: 9.5
Years on EEA RC/FP: 3
Applied: 21.01.2019
Status offered: Settled
Outcome: Still waiting
Date of outcome: Still waiting

Same happened to me! Let's hope for the best! How Long have you been married/living together for?

inesbankole wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:18 am

Hi all,
Quick advice please guys.
I am non eu citizen married to a eu citizen but no living together anymore.
I have my 5 year residence card and still valid until 2021.
I am planning to travel outside the Uk in may for 2 months.
I want to apply for the pre settled status, i started the application but missing the payslip of the last 6 months of my Wife
I begged her but she is not willing to give it to me.
I do have some of her payslips but it is not recent at all 1 year ago payslips.
I do not know what to do.
I don't want to find myslef in trouble at the border when i return from my trip.
Please helpppp.
Thanks in advance

ag04959 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:56 pm

Dear xxxxx, Thank you for your question regarding your submitted application reference (xxxc) We apologise for any inconvenience and upset that may have been caused by the delay in processing your application, and we thank you for your patience during the pilot phase of the scheme. During the application process you applied for settled status and on 12 March, following a conversation with a case worker, in which you agreed that you are only eligible to apply for pre- settled status. Your application is currently on hold pending a policy review which will allow us to process the application with the correct outcome. Further details will be sent out to you regarding your application in due course. From the information that you have provided it would appear that you have a valid biometric residence card. You can continue to use this to prove your right to reside in the UK as you have done previously. Please be assured, this will enable you to travel in and out of the UK and therefore you are entitled to make any travel arrangements. EU citizens and their family members already resident in the UK by 29 March 2019 will be welcome to stay and we want them to do so. They are part of our community, and part of our country and we welcome the contribution that they make. As set out in the Statement of Intent there will be plenty of time for EU citizens and their family members to apply for their UK immigration status. There will be no change to their current rights under EU law until 31 December 2020, and the deadline for applications to the scheme for those resident here by the end of 2020 will be 30 June 2021. The pilot phase of the EU Settlement Scheme provides us with further insight on how the system performs and enables us to continue to develop and improve the system and therefore your feedback is appreciated. Our aim during the pilot is to prove the functionality of key components of the application process in a live environment. We are obtaining user feedback from real applicants, allowing us time to make any necessary adjustments that may be required before the scheme is opened fully by 30 March 2019. If you require further assistance regarding the EU Settlement Scheme, please do not hesitate to contact us on 0300 123 7379. Our opening times are Monday to Friday (8am to 8pm); Saturday and Sunday (9:30am to 4:30pm). UKVI is keen to continually review and improve its


Please tell me if I am wrong “ home office has put our applications on hold as they are waiting for the new policies “ I believe this is wrong as we have applied under the Eu settlement policies which are already there” I don’t really care about their policies, I need out come on the basis of policies which were there at the time of applications”

ag04959 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:34 pm

Getting pre settled means no need to submit so many evidence while applying for PR card and obviously it makes life so easier.

They should have told the same answer to everyone, they shouldn’t give different amateurs ro everyone

kamoe wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:40 pm

ag04959 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:34 pm

Getting pre settled means no need to submit so many evidence while applying for PR card and obviously it makes life so easier.

In our particular case this is a non-issue as we already have RC.

kamoe wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:07 pm

kamoe wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:40 pm

ag04959 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:34 pm

Getting pre settled means no need to submit so many evidence while applying for PR card and obviously it makes life so easier.

In our particular case this is a non-issue as we already have RC.

And by the above I mean we can simply wait on our RC until we are eligible for Settled Status, why bother with Pre-Settled?

Daddou88 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:48 pm

kamoe wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:07 pm

kamoe wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:40 pm

ag04959 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:34 pm

Getting pre settled means no need to submit so many evidence while applying for PR card and obviously it makes life so easier.

In our particular case this is a non-issue as we already have RC.

And by the above I mean we can simply wait on our RC until we are eligible for Settled Status, why bother with Pre-Settled?

I don’t think there will be new policies for settlement for EU and their families after 29th March,but I smell something dodgy in the pre settled status that could be subject t changes later on,also I have I have read onthe website that only applicant who applied after 30 march has the right to appeal a rejected decision,is it true?

ag04959 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:34 pm

Getting pre settled means no need to submit so many evidence while applying for PR card and obviously it makes life so easier.

You are right as there is no point to rush, however the most annoying part is getting their unprofessional replies.

They should have told the same answer to everyone, they shouldn’t give different amateurs ro everyone

ag04959 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:29 pm

Dear Kamoe, I am not sure about you but yes I would struggle to get pay slips or other documents for my ex wife so there is a issue. Might be you don’t need to bother but yes for me it is very good to get this status’s under this status scheme i will be eligible of PR this year otherwise I have to wait for 2 years more, because my ex wasn’t excercising her treaty rights for sometime , but was employed at the time of divorce. This is my personal opinion and sorry

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:54 pm

Hi
I would like to share my story it might be useful to anyone
I'm an Egyptian married to latvian woman we married in Egypt 2011 I came to England in March 2012 on family permit 6 months Visa I applied for residence card 4 month later after I arrived we all know how the home office insist no phone call to them during process your application but I had to call them to ask for my passport as no job accepting me without they see my original passport so I had to call them and three days later they sent me all my documents and passport without any residence or a decision I sent it back to them two months later they sent me my residence card printed on my passport my wife was pregnant and we had our child born in may 2012 but unfortunately our marriage didn't continue we separated in November 2012 (( very quick never expected that )) I got my 5 years residence valid from September 2012 to September 2017 I traveled many times after separation in and out UK everytime the immigration officer asking me where is my wife I answer we are separated we don't live together and they welcome in me and let me in with no issues or problems at all just before my residence card end I been to many solicitor asking what I have to do in order to get permanent residence card as I lived more than 5 years all together said no way and i will be refused and I only have one way to stay here if I did human right application in the court they let me down and I decided to apply for it by myself with no help from my ex I didn't gave them too much evidence actually I was ready to leave UK if that was the decision but I only gave them my marriage certificate as its still valid we arnt legally divorced after I did my biometric information I got it finally but it wasn't permanent it was only another 5 years residence plastic biometric card I said no problem at least I can stay near to my daughter but after the changes and scheme opened I gave it try and I applied In 2nd of January 2019
I been offered settle status from my national insurance contribution but the application asked me for evidence of my wife p60 bank statement etc plus proof of relationship I only managed to send marry certificate no other evidence as she like most of European doesn't want to help after separation
After two weeks of my application submission I called them to say that my wife doesn't want to give me her documents or passport as we are separated they said we will put that in system for caseworker but I was expecting refusal but in 18 February 2019 I got the answer with accepting my application and granted sattle status . I'm sorry if it's long story but it might be helpful for someone good luck for everyone.
Kind regards

marcia1234 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:29 pm

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:54 pm

Hi
I would like to share my story it might be useful to anyone
I'm an Egyptian married to latvian woman we married in Egypt 2011 I came to England in March 2012 on family permit 6 months Visa I applied for residence card 4 month later after I arrived we all know how the home office insist no phone call to them during process your application but I had to call them to ask for my passport as no job accepting me without they see my original passport so I had to call them and three days later they sent me all my documents and passport without any residence or a decision I sent it back to them two months later they sent me my residence card printed on my passport my wife was pregnant and we had our child born in may 2012 but unfortunately our marriage didn't continue we separated in November 2012 (( very quick never expected that )) I got my 5 years residence valid from September 2012 to September 2017 I traveled many times after separation in and out UK everytime the immigration officer asking me where is my wife I answer we are separated we don't live together and they welcome in me and let me in with no issues or problems at all just before my residence card end I been to many solicitor asking what I have to do in order to get permanent residence card as I lived more than 5 years all together said no way and i will be refused and I only have one way to stay here if I did human right application in the court they let me down and I decided to apply for it by myself with no help from my ex I didn't gave them too much evidence actually I was ready to leave UK if that was the decision but I only gave them my marriage certificate as its still valid we arnt legally divorced after I did my biometric information I got it finally but it wasn't permanent it was only another 5 years residence plastic biometric card I said no problem at least I can stay near to my daughter but after the changes and scheme opened I gave it try and I applied In 2nd of January 2019
I been offered settle status from my national insurance contribution but the application asked me for evidence of my wife p60 bank statement etc plus proof of relationship I only managed to send marry certificate no other evidence as she like most of European doesn't want to help after separation
After two weeks of my application submission I called them to say that my wife doesn't want to give me her documents or passport as we are separated they said we will put that in system for caseworker but I was expecting refusal but in 18 February 2019 I got the answer with accepting my application and granted sattle status . I'm sorry if it's long story but it might be helpful for someone good luck for everyone.
Kind regards

Hi, How long did it take to you get the settle status?
It took 48 days to get it
I have applied for settle status too but was asked to provide my husbands proof of residence and his id copy and marriage certificate.
They asked me to but I only sent them my marriage certificate
Unfortunately I am not able to provide his documents as we have been seperated (we have been married since 2005 and was issued 3 times residence card sice then) and he is refusing to provide his dosc. I only have a copy of ID two copy of his p60, couple of payslips tv licence bill on his name. I have talked to a lawyer couple of times and was told that apperantly settle status does not cover situations like mine and he himself is not sure what would be the outcome. Does anyone have any idea if homeoffice have any guidence on the cases like mine?
I can't answer the rest as I'm not professional, good luck

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:40 pm

marcia1234 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:29 pm

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:54 pm

Hi
I would like to share my story it might be useful to anyone
I'm an Egyptian married to latvian woman we married in Egypt 2011 I came to England in March 2012 on family permit 6 months Visa I applied for residence card 4 month later after I arrived we all know how the home office insist no phone call to them during process your application but I had to call them to ask for my passport as no job accepting me without they see my original passport so I had to call them and three days later they sent me all my documents and passport without any residence or a decision I sent it back to them two months later they sent me my residence card printed on my passport my wife was pregnant and we had our child born in may 2012 but unfortunately our marriage didn't continue we separated in November 2012 (( very quick never expected that )) I got my 5 years residence valid from September 2012 to September 2017 I traveled many times after separation in and out UK everytime the immigration officer asking me where is my wife I answer we are separated we don't live together and they welcome in me and let me in with no issues or problems at all just before my residence card end I been to many solicitor asking what I have to do in order to get permanent residence card as I lived more than 5 years all together said no way and i will be refused and I only have one way to stay here if I did human right application in the court they let me down and I decided to apply for it by myself with no help from my ex I didn't gave them too much evidence actually I was ready to leave UK if that was the decision but I only gave them my marriage certificate as its still valid we arnt legally divorced after I did my biometric information I got it finally but it wasn't permanent it was only another 5 years residence plastic biometric card I said no problem at least I can stay near to my daughter but after the changes and scheme opened I gave it try and I applied In 2nd of January 2019
I been offered settle status from my national insurance contribution but the application asked me for evidence of my wife p60 bank statement etc plus proof of relationship I only managed to send marry certificate no other evidence as she like most of European doesn't want to help after separation
After two weeks of my application submission I called them to say that my wife doesn't want to give me her documents or passport as we are separated they said we will put that in system for caseworker but I was expecting refusal but in 18 February 2019 I got the answer with accepting my application and granted sattle status . I'm sorry if it's long story but it might be helpful for someone good luck for everyone.
Kind regards

Hi, How long did it take to you get the settle status?
It took 48 days to get it
I have applied for settle status too but was asked to provide my husbands proof of residence and his id copy and marriage certificate.
They asked me to but I only sent them my marriage certificate
Unfortunately I am not able to provide his documents as we have been seperated (we have been married since 2005 and was issued 3 times residence card sice then) and he is refusing to provide his dosc. I only have a copy of ID two copy of his p60, couple of payslips tv licence bill on his name. I have talked to a lawyer couple of times and was told that apperantly settle status does not cover situations like mine and he himself is not sure what would be the outcome. Does anyone have any idea if homeoffice have any guidence on the cases like mine?
I can't answer the rest as I'm not professional, good luck

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:40 pm

marcia1234 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:29 pm

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:54 pm

Hi
I would like to share my story it might be useful to anyone
I'm an Egyptian married to latvian woman we married in Egypt 2011 I came to England in March 2012 on family permit 6 months Visa I applied for residence card 4 month later after I arrived we all know how the home office insist no phone call to them during process your application but I had to call them to ask for my passport as no job accepting me without they see my original passport so I had to call them and three days later they sent me all my documents and passport without any residence or a decision I sent it back to them two months later they sent me my residence card printed on my passport my wife was pregnant and we had our child born in may 2012 but unfortunately our marriage didn't continue we separated in November 2012 (( very quick never expected that )) I got my 5 years residence valid from September 2012 to September 2017 I traveled many times after separation in and out UK everytime the immigration officer asking me where is my wife I answer we are separated we don't live together and they welcome in me and let me in with no issues or problems at all just before my residence card end I been to many solicitor asking what I have to do in order to get permanent residence card as I lived more than 5 years all together said no way and i will be refused and I only have one way to stay here if I did human right application in the court they let me down and I decided to apply for it by myself with no help from my ex I didn't gave them too much evidence actually I was ready to leave UK if that was the decision but I only gave them my marriage certificate as its still valid we arnt legally divorced after I did my biometric information I got it finally but it wasn't permanent it was only another 5 years residence plastic biometric card I said no problem at least I can stay near to my daughter but after the changes and scheme opened I gave it try and I applied In 2nd of January 2019
I been offered settle status from my national insurance contribution but the application asked me for evidence of my wife p60 bank statement etc plus proof of relationship I only managed to send marry certificate no other evidence as she like most of European doesn't want to help after separation
After two weeks of my application submission I called them to say that my wife doesn't want to give me her documents or passport as we are separated they said we will put that in system for caseworker but I was expecting refusal but in 18 February 2019 I got the answer with accepting my application and granted sattle status . I'm sorry if it's long story but it might be helpful for someone good luck for everyone.
Kind regards

Hi, How long did it take to you get the settle status?
It took 48 days to get it
I have applied for settle status too but was asked to provide my husbands proof of residence and his id copy and marriage certificate.
They asked me to but I only sent them my marriage certificate
Unfortunately I am not able to provide his documents as we have been seperated (we have been married since 2005 and was issued 3 times residence card sice then) and he is refusing to provide his dosc. I only have a copy of ID two copy of his p60, couple of payslips tv licence bill on his name. I have talked to a lawyer couple of times and was told that apperantly settle status does not cover situations like mine and he himself is not sure what would be the outcome. Does anyone have any idea if homeoffice have any guidence on the cases like mine?
I can't answer the rest as I'm not professional, good luck

marcia1234 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:18 pm

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:40 pm

marcia1234 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:29 pm

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:54 pm

Hi
I would like to share my story it might be useful to anyone
I'm an Egyptian married to latvian woman we married in Egypt 2011 I came to England in March 2012 on family permit 6 months Visa I applied for residence card 4 month later after I arrived we all know how the home office insist no phone call to them during process your application but I had to call them to ask for my passport as no job accepting me without they see my original passport so I had to call them and three days later they sent me all my documents and passport without any residence or a decision I sent it back to them two months later they sent me my residence card printed on my passport my wife was pregnant and we had our child born in may 2012 but unfortunately our marriage didn't continue we separated in November 2012 (( very quick never expected that )) I got my 5 years residence valid from September 2012 to September 2017 I traveled many times after separation in and out UK everytime the immigration officer asking me where is my wife I answer we are separated we don't live together and they welcome in me and let me in with no issues or problems at all just before my residence card end I been to many solicitor asking what I have to do in order to get permanent residence card as I lived more than 5 years all together said no way and i will be refused and I only have one way to stay here if I did human right application in the court they let me down and I decided to apply for it by myself with no help from my ex I didn't gave them too much evidence actually I was ready to leave UK if that was the decision but I only gave them my marriage certificate as its still valid we arnt legally divorced after I did my biometric information I got it finally but it wasn't permanent it was only another 5 years residence plastic biometric card I said no problem at least I can stay near to my daughter but after the changes and scheme opened I gave it try and I applied In 2nd of January 2019
I been offered settle status from my national insurance contribution but the application asked me for evidence of my wife p60 bank statement etc plus proof of relationship I only managed to send marry certificate no other evidence as she like most of European doesn't want to help after separation
After two weeks of my application submission I called them to say that my wife doesn't want to give me her documents or passport as we are separated they said we will put that in system for caseworker but I was expecting refusal but in 18 February 2019 I got the answer with accepting my application and granted sattle status . I'm sorry if it's long story but it might be helpful for someone good luck for everyone.
Kind regards

Hi, How long did it take to you get the settle status?
It took 48 days to get it
I have applied for settle status too but was asked to provide my husbands proof of residence and his id copy and marriage certificate.
They asked me to but I only sent them my marriage certificate
Unfortunately I am not able to provide his documents as we have been seperated (we have been married since 2005 and was issued 3 times residence card sice then) and he is refusing to provide his dosc. I only have a copy of ID two copy of his p60, couple of payslips tv licence bill on his name. I have talked to a lawyer couple of times and was told that apperantly settle status does not cover situations like mine and he himself is not sure what would be the outcome. Does anyone have any idea if homeoffice have any guidence on the cases like mine?
I can't answer the rest as I'm not professional, good luck

Maybe they were able to find your wife's proof of residence through automated checks and maybe she has herself applied too and granted settle status so you did get yours too.
Aye maybe I never asked her so

Do you think that might be possible? I am asking because I have received another email today and they are asking now his proof of residence between april 2019 till march 2019 ( which is three years and three months) and my 5 years. In the firs email they just asked 5 years residence without mentioning certain dates and his copy of Id, now it seems like they do not need his copy of id and only last three years of proof of his residence.
Are you sure he is still in UK? Or he might be not here ? Or he didn't work to track his national insurance contribution?

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:06 am

marcia1234 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:18 pm

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:40 pm

marcia1234 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:29 pm

Hi, How long did it take to you get the settle status?
It took 48 days to get it
I have applied for settle status too but was asked to provide my husbands proof of residence and his id copy and marriage certificate.
They asked me to but I only sent them my marriage certificate
Unfortunately I am not able to provide his documents as we have been seperated (we have been married since 2005 and was issued 3 times residence card sice then) and he is refusing to provide his dosc. I only have a copy of ID two copy of his p60, couple of payslips tv licence bill on his name. I have talked to a lawyer couple of times and was told that apperantly settle status does not cover situations like mine and he himself is not sure what would be the outcome. Does anyone have any idea if homeoffice have any guidence on the cases like mine?
I can't answer the rest as I'm not professional, good luck

Maybe they were able to find your wife's proof of residence through automated checks and maybe she has herself applied too and granted settle status so you did get yours too.
Aye maybe I never asked her so

Do you think that might be possible? I am asking because I have received another email today and they are asking now his proof of residence between april 2019 till march 2019 ( which is three years and three months) and my 5 years. In the firs email they just asked 5 years residence without mentioning certain dates and his copy of Id, now it seems like they do not need his copy of id and only last three years of proof of his residence.
Are you sure he is still in UK? Or he might be not here ? Or he didn't work to track his national insurance contribution?

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:31 am

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:06 am

marcia1234 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:18 pm

Fbiboy2002 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:40 pm

Maybe they were able to find your wife's proof of residence through automated checks and maybe she has herself applied too and granted settle status so you did get yours too.
Aye maybe I never asked her so

Do you think that might be possible? I am asking because I have received another email today and they are asking now his proof of residence between april 2019 till march 2019 ( which is three years and three months) and my 5 years. In the firs email they just asked 5 years residence without mentioning certain dates and his copy of Id, now it seems like they do not need his copy of id and only last three years of proof of his residence.
Are you sure he is still in UK? Or he might be not here ? Or he didn't work to track his national insurance contribution?