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Use this section for any queries concerning the EU Settlement Scheme, for applicants holding pre-settled and settled status.

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Pre-Settled Status & Divorce

Post by Ferozekhan » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:08 pm

I am a non-EU national and having Pre-Settled status and husband of an EU national(she has settled status). Married for more than 3 years and living in UK for more than 2 years. BUT since start me & wife are not living together due to some personal reasons. Both of us are in full-employment in UK. If we go for separation/divorce, will I be able to apply for Retained Rights of Residence. Keeping in mind, both conditions are fulfilled i,e., marriage over 3 years and both living in UK for more than 1 year. BUT since we are not living together, will it affect my application for retained rights?

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Re: Pre-Settled Status & Divorce

Post by vetchololass87 » Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:20 pm

Ferozekhan wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:08 pm
I am a non-EU national and having Pre-Settled status and husband of an EU national(she has settled status). Married for more than 3 years and living in UK for more than 2 years. BUT since start me & wife are not living together due to some personal reasons. Both of us are in full-employment in UK. If we go for separation/divorce, will I be able to apply for Retained Rights of Residence. Keeping in mind, both conditions are fulfilled i,e., marriage over 3 years and both living in UK for more than 1 year. BUT since we are not living together, will it affect my application for retained rights?
living together isn't a requirement.

You will qualify for settle status after 5 years of marriage if:

- you have been Married for more than 3 years and BOTH have been living in the UK for more than 1years

As long as you can prove it, sleep in peace you will get your settle status.

People don't understand that EU settlement scheme is the easiest and most straightforward route ever created in this country.

@Kamoe, what is your opinion about the Retained rights route under EUSS?

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Re: Pre-Settled Status & Divorce

Post by kamoe » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:52 pm

vetchololass87 wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:20 pm
@Kamoe, what is your opinion about the Retained rights route under EUSS?
Not a particular area where I have expertise, but I can say that it is always easier and faster to get the status while still legally married. Being separated (not living together) does not end the legal marriage in itself, so one is still legally married while living apart.

If the OP is in good terms with their spouse, it's not unwise to try and wait until they both get Settled Status to get the divorced finalised. If this is too long of a wait and it is inconvenient for one or both of the parties (e.g. one of them wanting to get married soon), in my opinion (as in that's what I'd do, not what might be convenient for everybody) only then makes sense to consider retained right of residence. It is always much more straightforward to apply while still married (see this post).
My posts express what I believe are the facts, based on the best of my knowledge, about the topics discussed in this forum. They do not constitute immigration advice.

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Re: Pre-Settled Status & Divorce

Post by vetchololass87 » Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:31 am

kamoe wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:52 pm
vetchololass87 wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:20 pm
@Kamoe, what is your opinion about the Retained rights route under EUSS?
Not a particular area where I have expertise, but I can say that it is always easier and faster to get the status while still legally married. Being separated (not living together) does not end the legal marriage in itself, so one is still legally married while living apart.

If the OP is in good terms with their spouse, it's not unwise to try and wait until they both get Settled Status to get the divorced finalised. If this is too long of a wait and it is inconvenient for one or both of the parties (e.g. one of them wanting to get married soon), in my opinion (as in that's what I'd do, not what might be convenient for everybody) only then makes sense to consider retained right of residence. It is always much more straightforward to apply while still married (see this post).
@Kamoe Totally agreed with you, indeed always easier to apply while still married.
However in my case, I'm not in good term with my wife and divorce will be pronounced soon. I have pre-settled status and she has settle status and i know her UAN number. I have documentation to prove that i have been married for 3 years and lived together for 1 year.

In what grounds the HO can reject the application? i know HO can be difficult sometimes, just wanted to know if you have friends who had to go through ROR.

Thanks

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Re: Pre-Settled Status & Divorce

Post by kamoe » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:06 am

vetchololass87 wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:31 am

@Kamoe Totally agreed with you, indeed always easier to apply while still married.
However in my case, I'm not in good term with my wife and divorce will be pronounced soon. I have pre-settled status and she has settle status and i know her UAN number. I have documentation to prove that i have been married for 3 years and lived together for 1 year.

In what grounds the HO can reject the application? i know HO can be difficult sometimes, just wanted to know if you have friends who had to go through ROR.

Thanks
You almost confused me, for a moment I thought you were the OP. I hope you can see how hijacking someone else's post is inconvenient.

Please update on your situation and your questions on your own post.
My posts express what I believe are the facts, based on the best of my knowledge, about the topics discussed in this forum. They do not constitute immigration advice.

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Re: Pre-Settled Status & Divorce

Post by Ferozekhan » Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:21 am

vetchololass87 wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:20 pm
Ferozekhan wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:08 pm

You will qualify for settle status after 5 years of marriage if:

- you have been Married for more than 3 years and BOTH have been living in the UK for more than 1years

As long as you can prove it, sleep in peace you will get your settle status.
We got married outside UK/EU and we never registered our marriage in UK. I am not sure if there is any rule to register OR it is already registered as I was given Family Permit to enter UK (before my Pre-Settled status) on the basis of that marriage certificate. Can I show that marriage certificate as proof of our marriage?

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Re: Pre-Settled Status & Divorce

Post by Ferozekhan » Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:39 am

kamoe wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:52 pm
vetchololass87 wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:20 pm
@Kamoe, what is your opinion about the Retained rights route under EUSS?
If this is too long of a wait and it is inconvenient for one or both of the parties (e.g. one of them wanting to get married soon)
Even then if still it ended up in divorce, what would be the merits of my case to apply for stay in the UK? It would be a huge step thats why I have to make sure I am not doing any mistake. So precisely, married for more than 3 years, I am in UK for more than 2 years with pre-settled status ending in 2024. Marriage done outside UK/EU and not registered in UK (well thats what I assume) Not living together with the wife and thinking to end this marriage and move on.

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Re: Pre-Settled Status & Divorce

Post by kamoe » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:10 am

Ferozekhan wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:08 pm
BUT since start me & wife are not living together due to some personal reasons.
I think this is where you might find difficulties. I believe you need to demonstrate that your marriage is not one of convenience, that is, that you were a genuine couple during your married time.

You will need to thoroughly justify why you have not lived together at all. One thing is to show you have been separated during the last year, which is reasonable for a couple choosing to divorce, another completely different thing is to show you have never actually cohabited. The onus is on you to prove how during that time you were indeed a genuine couple (evidence of shared financial responsibilities would be a good place to start).
My posts express what I believe are the facts, based on the best of my knowledge, about the topics discussed in this forum. They do not constitute immigration advice.

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