Renouncing British Citizenship to use EEA FP route

tigerram wrote:This was on the BBC website this evening, it appears an hour or so ago, regarding a release of documents today:

The documents issued by the European Council on Tuesday briefly restate the broad areas of negotiation set out last week, including proposed limits on the payments of migrants' benefits, new powers for national parliaments and safeguards for countries outside the eurozone.

They also state that if EU leaders endorse the agreement, the new arrangements would become effective on the date the UK government informed the Council it was staying in the EU, were that to be the outcome of the referendum.

So basically, nothing will change before 23rd June.

Cheers for that tigerram! If I count out my 6 months, I should have my RN back by the end of May. Like I said before, it will be cutting it close - but I would rather cut it close than not at all!

Of course that will all depend on them reaching an agreement at next weeks summit. I'm assuming that no agreement = no June referendum (fingers crossed)!

Hi magicmus how are you?

Did you get your Irish passport card yet??

Thanks to common sense amongst Manila cfo staff, my wife is currently halfway here on a plane.

We are delighted. Technically they could have made us wait two to three months. But we explained the european law was changing so they moved to issue the CFO sticker and cert just using our courier receipt showing we are sending the documents to hk to be lodged for our marriage. This is a huge concession and noone asked for any extra money.

Thanks to one and all who have helped. I hope all your dreams come true too!

tigerram wrote:Thanks to common sense amongst Manila cfo staff, my wife is currently halfway here on a plane.

We are delighted. Technically they could have made us wait two to three months. But we explained the european law was changing so they moved to issue the CFO sticker and cert just using our courier receipt showing we are sending the documents to hk to be lodged for our marriage. This is a huge concession and noone asked for any extra money.

Thanks to one and all who have helped. I hope all your dreams come true too!

Fantastic news Tigerram!!! I'm delighted for you & I hope all goes well with your wife coming through customs. It's been I long journey and I am glad it is all working out! That's a nice start to your weekend haha!

My renunciation arrived today 13th it was dated the 8th.

I posted my application on 15/09/15 it arrived back 13/02/16 so just short of 5 months.

That's the first hurdle cleared now for the next one

Bannoi wrote:My renunciation arrived today 13th it was dated the 8th.

I posted my application on 15/09/15 it arrived back 13/02/16 so just short of 5 months.

That's the first hurdle cleared now for the next one

Brilliant Bannoi! The time frame for getting them back seems to be complete pot luck - I am glad that you didn't have to wait the entire 6 months. Keep us updated with the EEA permit stage please and good luck with it!!!

Hi all!

Well, our news, we got our EEA family permit in 4 working days! we were shocked... haha.. but very happy!

So we are flying to the UK in March 2016,.

All scary now that it's finally happening, but happy we are able to go over before any "changes" take place.

Happy to hear everyones good news.

FYI - We sent in a bunch of photos (we've been together 5yrs, married 2 and with a daughter) so we sent photos from the "beginning" when we looked different to now etc. We sent our marriage certificate, they took a copy of my daughters passport and my passport and that was pretty much it. We had a letter from a friend we are staying with and a letter from our family that is helping us financially.

I don't know if its more difficult in certain countries, or some are more strict. But either way! extremely happy! Now to find a place to rent that allows pets! haha

Lissa6 wrote:Hi all!

Well, our news, we got our EEA family permit in 4 working days! we were shocked... haha.. but very happy!

So we are flying to the UK in March 2016,.

All scary now that it's finally happening, but happy we are able to go over before any "changes" take place.

Happy to hear everyones good news.

FYI - We sent in a bunch of photos (we've been together 5yrs, married 2 and with a daughter) so we sent photos from the "beginning" when we looked different to now etc. We sent our marriage certificate, they took a copy of my daughters passport and my passport and that was pretty much it. We had a letter from a friend we are staying with and a letter from our family that is helping us financially.

I don't know if its more difficult in certain countries, or some are more strict. But either way! extremely happy! Now to find a place to rent that allows pets! haha

Brilliant Lisa!!!!

Funny I was wondering about you over the weekend and how you were progressing. You hadn't posted in a while so I was worried that something had come up. There is 3 good stories in a row hahaha! Tigerram, Bannoi and now you. Really glad to hear it & that you can start moving on with things

Hi all how is everyone keeping ?

I'm happy to hear everyone is getting there EEA family permits

I'm starting to poop my pants about this eu referendum

After when I'm married & applying for the EEA family permit

Fingers crossed & toes crossed as well

Getting my RN back & getting married plus applying for the EEA family permit it will be cutting it really fine

Take care all & hope to hear from you all soon

Just to let everyone know, I received my RN in 4.5 months and my wife got her EEA last week in only 7 days. She'll be here by the end of the month. Waiting for the RN is the worst, I really feel your pain, but stick with it and make sure you have all your other documents ready and good to go so that once you get your RN, you can apply for your EEA immediately; good luck !!!!!!!

White Emerald wrote:Just to let everyone know, I received my RN in 4.5 months and my wife got her EEA last week in only 7 days. She'll be here by the end of the month. Waiting for the RN is the worst, I really feel your pain, but stick with it and make sure you have all your other documents ready and good to go so that once you get your RN, you can apply for your EEA immediately; good luck !!!!!!!

Fantastic White Emerald! That's now 4 good stories in as many days! I am thinking of doing what you said - that is having everything ready so that when the RN is back, I can apply for the family permit right away.

On a side note, I sent you a private message with a quick question if that is OK!

Best of luck getting the wife to join you!

White Emerald wrote:Just to let everyone know, I received my RN in 4.5 months and my wife got her EEA last week in only 7 days. She'll be here by the end of the month. Waiting for the RN is the worst, I really feel your pain, but stick with it and make sure you have all your other documents ready and good to go so that once you get your RN, you can apply for your EEA immediately; good luck !!!!!!!

Hi white Emerald, When did you send your RN off and when did you recieve it back. I am waiting on my irish passport card at the mo then will send off my RN. Someone i know who completed this last year advised me to contact a local MP who can call to check the progress of the RN request. I have spoken to a local MP who said she will do this after I have submitted. Just wondering if anyone else has done this and did it make a difference to their timescale? I was sooo hoping to have my RN back by june but its looking more and more unlikely

RJF1979 wrote:Hi all how is everyone keeping ?

I'm happy to hear everyone is getting there EEA family permits

I'm starting to poop my pants about this eu referendum

After when I'm married & applying for the EEA family permit

Fingers crossed & toes crossed as well

Getting my RN back & getting married plus applying for the EEA family permit it will be cutting it really fine

Take care all & hope to hear from you all soon

Hi RJF1979, when are you getting married? I spoke to my solicitor yesterday as I was feeling concerned about proposals and the referendum, his reply to me was "Draft proposals are aimed at British nationals doing surinder singh, you are going to be an Irish national so it would not impact you, I would think you still have time but don't delay at all from here on in. Even a vote to leave the EU would require parliamentary approval pf precise exit arrangements."

This comforted me a bit so hopefully it will you. What stage of the process are you at are you waiting on your RN?

magicmus wrote:
Hi RJF1979, when are you getting married? I spoke to my solicitor yesterday as I was feeling concerned about proposals and the referendum, his reply to me was "Draft proposals are aimed at British nationals doing surinder singh, you are going to be an Irish national so it would not impact you, I would think you still have time but don't delay at all from here on in. Even a vote to leave the EU would require parliamentary approval pf precise exit arrangements."

This comforted me a bit so hopefully it will you. What stage of the process are you at are you waiting on your RN?

Hey magicmus,

I never even thought about asking a local MP to check! At least it is better than me calling. At least one positive is that a few people here have gotten their RN forms back after 4.5 months. I was the same as you - I sent my RN off as soon as my Irish Passport card came!

I know they are focusing mostly on Surinder Singh - but I was worried that one of the little pieces of sub text - something about a country's own immigration laws applying - would apply to people like us. Don't quote me on that, as I am not a solicitor, but that was the part that got me worrying.

RJF1979 and I are more or less at the same point if I am correct. I think he is at the 3 month stage of waiting .. and I am coming up on my 3 months.

May I also ask where you are applying from magicmus? England? Northern Ireland? Overseas?

magicmus wrote:

RJF1979 wrote:Hi all how is everyone keeping ?

I'm happy to hear everyone is getting there EEA family permits

I'm starting to poop my pants about this eu referendum

After when I'm married & applying for the EEA family permit

Fingers crossed & toes crossed as well

Getting my RN back & getting married plus applying for the EEA family permit it will be cutting it really fine

Take care all & hope to hear from you all soon

Hi RJF1979, when are you getting married? I spoke to my solicitor yesterday as I was feeling concerned about proposals and the referendum, his reply to me was "Draft proposals are aimed at British nationals doing surinder singh, you are going to be an Irish national so it would not impact you, I would think you still have time but don't delay at all from here on in. Even a vote to leave the EU would require parliamentary approval pf precise exit arrangements."

This comforted me a bit so hopefully it will you. What stage of the process are you at are you waiting on your RN?

Hi magicus how are you?

I sent off my RN on the 19th of November 2015 they didn't get it till the 20th of November

I'm on my 3rd month now & the same as SP84

Getting married on the 2nd week of May. All guess we'll me & wife will apply for the EEA family permit before the EU referendum..

Hopefully you will get your passport card soon and you can apply for your RN

take care & hope to hear from you soon magicus

magicmus wrote: Hi white Emerald, When did you send your RN off and when did you recieve it back. I am waiting on my irish passport card at the mo then will send off my RN.

Hi magicmus, I got mine back after 4.5 months; it was sent off last July. Good luck!

sp84 wrote:

magicmus wrote:
Hi RJF1979, when are you getting married? I spoke to my solicitor yesterday as I was feeling concerned about proposals and the referendum, his reply to me was "Draft proposals are aimed at British nationals doing surinder singh, you are going to be an Irish national so it would not impact you, I would think you still have time but don't delay at all from here on in. Even a vote to leave the EU would require parliamentary approval pf precise exit arrangements."

This comforted me a bit so hopefully it will you. What stage of the process are you at are you waiting on your RN?

Hey magicmus,

I never even thought about asking a local MP to check! At least it is better than me calling. At least one positive is that a few people here have gotten their RN forms back after 4.5 months. I was the same as you - I sent my RN off as soon as my Irish Passport card came!

I know they are focusing mostly on Surinder Singh - but I was worried that one of the little pieces of sub text - something about a country's own immigration laws applying - would apply to people like us. Don't quote me on that, as I am not a solicitor, but that was the part that got me worrying.

RJF1979 and I are more or less at the same point if I am correct. I think he is at the 3 month stage of waiting .. and I am coming up on my 3 months.

May I also ask where you are applying from magicmus? England? Northern Ireland? Overseas?

I'm applying from northern Ireland so the sdlp office are going to call for me being a nationalist party they are keen to have people renouncing British citizenship.
When it's constantly being talked about on the news it is worrying.

magicmus wrote:
I'm applying from northern Ireland so the sdlp office are going to call for me being a nationalist party they are keen to have people renouncing British citizenship.
When it's constantly being talked about on the news it is worrying.

Haha funny you should say that - I was going to write in my last post that being from Belfast - I'm sure my local Sinn Fein or SDLP office would happily make some enquiries! I had never actually thought about getting them involved and I'm unsure if it would make the process go any faster.

A BBC article tonight said that even if there is a deal at tomorrow/Fridays summit - and if Cameron calls a meeting with Parliament on Friday evening then - Mr Cameron may then announce the date of the UK's referendum, although he does not have to do so

Lovely of them to throw in the - he does not have to. Either way I suppose we will know in the next few days!

Haha funny you should say that - I was going to write in my last post that being from Belfast - I'm sure my local Sinn Fein or SDLP office would happily make some enquiries! I had never actually thought about getting them involved and I'm unsure if it would make the process go any faster.

A BBC article tonight said that even if there is a deal at tomorrow/Fridays summit - and if Cameron calls a meeting with Parliament on Friday evening then - Mr Cameron may then announce the date of the UK's referendum, although he does not have to do so

Yeh I'm unsure it would make it any faster either but worth the try. If they are on there case every week they may just decide to process it to stop the call, wishful thinking on my part I think
Wish my Irish passport card would hurry up I applied on the app last Tuesday so hoping it won't be much longer. I would love to be able to apply for eea permit in June when I go over to see my husband but I think its more likely to be September before we can apply.

Lovely of them to throw in the - he does not have to. Either way I suppose we will know in the next few days!

magicmus wrote:
Yeh I'm unsure it would make it any faster either but worth the try. If they are on there case every week they may just decide to process it to stop the call, wishful thinking on my part I think
Wish my Irish passport card would hurry up I applied on the app last Tuesday so hoping it won't be much longer. I would love to be able to apply for eea permit in June when I go over to see my husband but I think its more likely to be September before we can apply.

When you applied for the Irish Passport card - I thought there was a way to track it? Well more check on the progress of it, through the website. That might be worth looking into. Could have sworn that mine only took a week to get to me here in the USA.

Yea I know what you mean about wanting to apply as soon as you can Where is your husband from if you don't mind me asking? I hope your passport card comes soon as you can get the ball rolling with things. All my fingers and toes are crossed for the referendum being pushed until later this year!

sp84 wrote:
When you applied for the Irish Passport card - I thought there was a way to track it? Well more check on the progress of it, through the website. That might be worth looking into. Could have sworn that mine only took a week to get to me here in the USA.

Yea I know what you mean about wanting to apply as soon as you can Where is your husband from if you don't mind me asking? I hope your passport card comes soon as you can get the ball rolling with things. All my fingers and toes are crossed for the referendum being pushed until later this year!

Hi sp84, yeh i got a tracking number and i have been checking it each day but no update since the 10th February. My husband is from Turkey. Yeh i really want to get the ball rolling asap but like everything to do with immigration it isnt an easy or fast process. It will be nice to hopefully look back on this one day as a distant memory!

Hi magicus how are you ?

Did you get a letter from the home office or did you a email to say they have accepted your payment??


I only got a letter with no tracking number

I know home office has it

How is everyone else keeping?

RJF1979 wrote:Hi magicus how are you ?

Did you get a letter from the home office or did you a email to say they have accepted your payment??


I only got a letter with no tracking number

I know home office has it

How is everyone else keeping?

Hi RJF1979 I'm good thanks. I havent sent my RN yet as I am still waiting on my irish passport card so that i can send that with my RN rather than my irish passport as I will need that for travelling to turkey whilst Im waiting for my RN.

magicmus wrote:

RJF1979 wrote:Hi magicus how are you ?

Did you get a letter from the home office or did you a email to say they have accepted your payment??


I only got a letter with no tracking number

I know home office has it

How is everyone else keeping?

Hi RJF1979 I'm good thanks. I havent sent my RN yet as I am still waiting on my irish passport card so that i can send that with my RN rather than my irish passport as I will need that for travelling to turkey whilst Im waiting for my RN.

Hi magicus I'm happy to hear from you

Oh sorry for the confusing on the RN

Did you get your Irish passport card yet??

I got my mine with in 4 days witch was fast.. I sent off my Irish passport wasn't sure to send the Irish passport card and slow the process up

The good thing is that I can still travel around Europe with my passport card & get married in May in Denmark & apply for the EEA family permit in Spain as my Venezuelan fiancé has family living in Madrid witch is handy..

Hope & pray you get your Irish passport back really soon.. When did you send off your Irish passport card magicus?

magicmus wrote:
Hi sp84, yeh i got a tracking number and i have been checking it each day but no update since the 10th February. My husband is from Turkey. Yeh i really want to get the ball rolling asap but like everything to do with immigration it isnt an easy or fast process. It will be nice to hopefully look back on this one day as a distant memory!

Hey Magicmus,

You might want to see if there is a phone number or something that you can call as well, especially if the tracking # isn't giving you much information. Can't hurt to phone and ask! I had a quick look on the website and couldn't see a phone number - there is a "contact us" section at the top right. It allows you to send a message to the Dublin passport office via email.

I was really surprised with how quickly mine came and RJF1979's only took 4 days - so I would like to think that you would have heard something by now! I hope you get it soon!