magicmus wrote:I'm sure everyone here is following the news closely and if your anything like me probably feeling sick to your stomach. So the referendum will take place on 23rd June. If we stay in David Cameron has struck a deal. The part that concerns me most is that UK can deny free movement of eu national and their non Eu spouse. Does this mean as an Irish citizen living in the UK I cannot bring my Turkish husband? I'm feeling so confused and stressed at the moment.
Hey, nemerkh - personally I do not know of any sorry. I am in the USA at the minute. I know that Lisa from this thread (she is in South Africa) - has been communicating with an immigration company somewhere in England, though I'm not sure which part. I can't remember if she mentioned the name of them or not, but you might want to flick back a few pages and see ...
Yeah, like you I feel sick and nervous anytime I see a story pop on the news about it. I had a predictable feeling that they would reach an agreement right at the death & that the 23rd would be announced as the referendum date.
My understanding is, if the UK votes to stay in - then yes free movement for non-EU nationals becomes more difficult. I THINK
that the country's own individual immigration laws come into force. In the case of the UK - the financial threshold of 18k would apply to everyone now, not just British Citizens with non-Eu spouses. In the case of you moving to Spain for e.g. Spanish immigration laws would then apply. Don't quote me 100% on that - but I am going to try and find out more information on this over the next few days - if I hear anything at all I will let people know.
The big question that I want to know is - when do the new laws come into force (in the event of a STAY vote). I know that the proposal says "when the UK informs the European council of its desire to stay in the EU" - but I don't know if that means the 24th of June (the next day once all the votes are counted) - or if there will be some time lag before things change.
I am also curious about how the family permit is going to work - for example, I have been told that they have a "valid until" date on them, of around 6 months after they are issued. So if someone gets issued a family permit, say on June 20th, before the vote - the vote happens and the rules change - is that family permit still valid?
In terms of your situation - have you thought about doing Surinder Singh? (I'm sure you have) - only reason I am asking it because the time frame for that is shorter (3 months) than renouncing at the minute. Personally, I can't do SS - as you have to enter another EU country on your British passport - mine expired 5 years ago - so for me to cancel my renunciation and apply for a new British passport would not really give me enough time. Plus I am almost at the 3 month mark of renouncing anyway, so it is sort of one in the same for me now.
I am incredibly angry that the other member states did nothing about the non-EU spouse rules that the UK were asking for - they weren't even discussed as far as I know!!! The reason being - The EU wants the UK to stay in the EU ... they know that they have a better chance of this, if Theresa May is in the STAY camp ... if they removed those clauses she surely would have campaigned to leave.
On a positive note - don't forget that the 18k threshold is being challenged at the Supreme Court on Monday Feb 22nd - it is just the hearing, not the actual judgement, but lets hope and pray that common sense prevails!!