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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by kamoe » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:18 am

Davidclr wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:59 am
Alinacarolina wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:43 am
Davidclr wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:29 am
Davidclr wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:19 am
Same situation!

timeline;

applied with a Biometric RC from 2015

22.01 application submitted
22.01 COA email received
29.01 email saying that I had submitted the application sent by mistake
05.02 so far no decision.
I rang the resolution center, they said it could take up to 6 weeks. I can't keep checking my email every day for the next 6 weeks because I am studying, I can not have the extra stress. if I knew It would take this long I would had waited until after May to apply.
I am considering withdraw my application, but It also takes take, and I would have to submit an application.
Firstly: Do not call them at all, it will delay the process.
Secondly: They have standard answers for these type of questions so do not ask how long will it take. Everyone here got reply quite fast so wait for it.
Lastly: There is no point to withdraw your application now as you will have to reapply and then more people will be applying which means longer waiting list.
Why would call Them delay the process ?

I would rather finish my studies and apply after, or relocate to another country. this stress will mess my studies up.

Thanks
David, you seem very stressed and need to calm down. Breathe :)

You won't gain anything from withdrawing your application now. You'll have to reapply again, and probably wait even longer (as more people would be applying). That makes no sense. Just forget about it, when you least expect it, it will be over.
My posts express what I believe are the facts, based on the best of my knowledge, about the topics discussed in this forum. They do not constitute immigration advice.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by rickyy » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:08 am

Jimmybones100 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:34 am
rickyy wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:11 pm
Jimmybones100 wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:09 pm
Received my email today,have been granted pre settled status as have just finished my first year of my RC,says from 2021 we will be under British immigration rules.
Hi jimmybones,

How long you been in Uk
Hi Ricky
Have been here 15 years now,used to serve in the British army.
Thanks jimmy.

May I ask you If you been here for 15years then why you got pre-settled status.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by Davidclr » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:17 pm

kamoe wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:18 am
Davidclr wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:59 am
Alinacarolina wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:43 am
Davidclr wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:29 am


I am considering withdraw my application, but It also takes take, and I would have to submit an application.
Firstly: Do not call them at all, it will delay the process.
Secondly: They have standard answers for these type of questions so do not ask how long will it take. Everyone here got reply quite fast so wait for it.
Lastly: There is no point to withdraw your application now as you will have to reapply and then more people will be applying which means longer waiting list.
Why would call Them delay the process ?

I would rather finish my studies and apply after, or relocate to another country. this stress will mess my studies up.

Thanks
David, you seem very stressed and need to calm down. Breathe :)

You won't gain anything from withdrawing your application now. You'll have to reapply again, and probably wait even longer (as more people would be applying). That makes no sense. Just forget about it, when you least expect it, it will be over.
I am about to submit my withdraw application. it is not about what to gain. I rather finish my education well than have a settled status. How can I study, work and still have this kind of stress ? they don't give any kind of time Frame.
I have to check my email all the time.
I am not apply again.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by kamoe » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:10 pm

Davidclr wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:17 pm
kamoe wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:18 am
Davidclr wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:59 am
Alinacarolina wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:43 am


Firstly: Do not call them at all, it will delay the process.
Secondly: They have standard answers for these type of questions so do not ask how long will it take. Everyone here got reply quite fast so wait for it.
Lastly: There is no point to withdraw your application now as you will have to reapply and then more people will be applying which means longer waiting list.
Why would call Them delay the process ?

I would rather finish my studies and apply after, or relocate to another country. this stress will mess my studies up.

Thanks
David, you seem very stressed and need to calm down. Breathe :)

You won't gain anything from withdrawing your application now. You'll have to reapply again, and probably wait even longer (as more people would be applying). That makes no sense. Just forget about it, when you least expect it, it will be over.
I am about to submit my withdraw application.
Obviously you are free and the only once who can to decide what is best for you.
it is not about what to gain. I rather finish my education well than have a settled status.
Again, you are not making any sense. How is not withdrawing your application in conflict with finishing your education? There is literally NOTHING else you need to do. In contrast. if you withdraw your application you are sure NOT to have the Settled Status, is that not more stressful?
How can I study, work and still have this kind of stress ? they don't give any kind of time Frame.
Again, just forget about it and go on with your life.
I have to check my email all the time.
No, you don't. I think this is the bottom line. Seems like you are suffering from anxiety. Withdrawing your application alone will probably not address it.
I am not apply again.
Whatever fits best with your future plans.
My posts express what I believe are the facts, based on the best of my knowledge, about the topics discussed in this forum. They do not constitute immigration advice.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by m_2007_uk » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:01 pm

m_2007_uk wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:58 pm
Non Eu Family member
Settled status application made on 22/01/2019
waiting for reply
Finally Received Settled status today :D

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by Davidclr » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:07 pm

m_2007_uk wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:01 pm
m_2007_uk wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:58 pm
Non Eu Family member
Settled status application made on 22/01/2019
waiting for reply
Finally Received Settled status today :D
Congratulations!
I am stuck because I have to apply to withdraw my application, and wait for a decision on the withdrawing.
someone should call me tomorrow to let me know how can I take this further.
what time did you get your email ?

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by Jimmybones100 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:25 pm

rickyy wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:08 am
Jimmybones100 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:34 am
rickyy wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:11 pm
Jimmybones100 wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:09 pm
Received my email today,have been granted pre settled status as have just finished my first year of my RC,says from 2021 we will be under British immigration rules.
Hi jimmybones,

How long you been in Uk
Hi Ricky
Have been here 15 years now,used to serve in the British army.
Thanks jimmy.

May I ask you If you been here for 15years then why you got pre-settled status.
It's a long story rickyy😅

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by crucifiks » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:45 pm

lunallena wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:26 am
I received my pre-settled status today. I applied after being on a RC as extended family member of my EEA partner (issued on July 2017). Good luck to all!
Hi, do you aplply with your BRP? (I have RC but it's a sticker in my passport) Thanks.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by Davidclr » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:47 pm

Dear All!

Just a follow up on the progress of my discussion with the Resolution centre, unfortunately it is not good news. I also did some research online, there are many red flags regards the settlement process.( specially for family member). I will put some links bellow.

I asked to withdraw my application, that is not possible. unless I basically apply to withdraw it. what means stead of 1 application pending indefinitely. I will have 2.
so I asked to place a formal complaint and take matter further. someone was supposed to call me today to help me with the formal complaint. someone called today. but I was not give the chance to place a formal complaint. so I am stuck in a catch 22.

I was assured that the case has progressed and is in the final stage though. but also was told that someone would call me weekly to inform about the case. that means no decision for the next couple of weeks

from the research I did online the impression I( and not only me) had is that the Home Office is prioritizing quantity, so that it looks like things are running smoothly. that mean;

case that are easy, that are approved immediately. any case the caseworker needs to actually look at the evidences will be left to be sorted later on. if you calculated that new individuals apply every day and soon Apple users are also be able to apply you can figure out that it will take a long time until they look at family members cases.

there some information that are not available to the public. for example, case that were not analysed form the previews phase. the Home office says that 100% of cases analysed got settle or pre settled status. it does explain what happened to does not analysed.

just one example;

"During the first pilot, which opened in August to staff from 12 NHS Trusts and three universities in north-west England, 1,053 EU citizens applied, of which 591 were granted settled status; 333 were granted pre-settled status, the status for EU nationals who have been here less than five years; and “no cases were refused”, a Home Office report specifies (what happened to the other 129 is unclear)."

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/brexit- ... plications

also check out;

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/02 ... status-app

I do not want to scare or stress anyone. but the sighs are not good.

good luck everyone. x

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by kamoe » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:39 pm

Davidclr wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:47 pm
there are many red flags regards the settlement process.( specially for family member)
This is a test phase. As such, we need to be aware it will be imperfect, and this is normal. If this was the final "stable" version, of a publicly launched app, I'd be worried. But since we are doing this early, nothing to be worried about now.
I asked to withdraw my application, that is not possible. unless I basically apply to withdraw it. what means stead of 1 application pending indefinitely. I will have 2.
There you go.
so I asked to place a formal complaint and take matter further.
So that you have one more thing to worry about?
someone was supposed to call me today to help me with the formal complaint. someone called today. but I was not give the chance to place a formal complaint. so I am stuck in a catch 22.
You are, intentionally or not, putting unnecessary stress into something that should be smooth.
I was assured that the case has progressed and is in the final stage though. but also was told that someone would call me weekly to inform about the case. that means no decision for the next couple of weeks
As someone advised you earlier, following phone advice form the HO is a no-no. They have a standard reply for everyone who calls.
from the research I did online the impression I( and not only me) had is that the Home Office is prioritizing quantity, so that it looks like things are running smoothly. that mean;
case that are easy, that are approved immediately. any case the caseworker needs to actually look at the evidences will be left to be sorted later on.
I agree with you here, this seems to be the case (although I believe there have been non-EU, non-PR card holders, who have been granted Pre-settled status already. They might be easy cases as well).
if you calculated that new individuals apply every day and soon Apple users are also be able to apply you can figure out that it will take a long time until they look at family members cases.
I don't think apple apps are in scope. I think, what you can do is complete the application online, without using the Android app, and probably actually send your documents. In any case, I can also see how applications that are not prioritized could be delayed until March.
there some information that are not available to the public. for example, case that were not analysed form the previews phase. the Home office says that 100% of cases analysed got settle or pre settled status. it does explain what happened to does not analysed.

just one example;

"During the first pilot, which opened in August to staff from 12 NHS Trusts and three universities in north-west England, 1,053 EU citizens applied, of which 591 were granted settled status; 333 were granted pre-settled status, the status for EU nationals who have been here less than five years; and “no cases were refused”, a Home Office report specifies (what happened to the other 129 is unclear)."

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/brexit- ... plications

also check out;

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/02 ... status-app
Yeap, it does seem like the process is designed to make it extremely simple and quick for full-time EU employees, and people with already PR, and this is a way to show numbers, and quantitative results.

If that's the case... so what? Testing first for sunny day scenarios is normal. It's good that the HO is actually doing this in phases, and gathering feedback at the end of each one.
I do not want to scare or stress anyone. but the sighs are not good.
Again, the actual launch of the app is the end of March, with a window to apply until the end of 2020. I say we are well in advance. Nothing to worry about.
My posts express what I believe are the facts, based on the best of my knowledge, about the topics discussed in this forum. They do not constitute immigration advice.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by Davidclr » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:03 pm

kamoe wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:39 pm
Davidclr wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:47 pm
there are many red flags regards the settlement process.( specially for family member)
This is a test phase. As such, we need to be aware it will be imperfect, and this is normal. If this was the final "stable" version, of a publicly launched app, I'd be worried. But since we are doing this early, nothing to be worried about now.
I asked to withdraw my application, that is not possible. unless I basically apply to withdraw it. what means stead of 1 application pending indefinitely. I will have 2.
There you go.
so I asked to place a formal complaint and take matter further.
So that you have one more thing to worry about?
someone was supposed to call me today to help me with the formal complaint. someone called today. but I was not give the chance to place a formal complaint. so I am stuck in a catch 22.
You are, intentionally or not, putting unnecessary stress into something that should be smooth.
I was assured that the case has progressed and is in the final stage though. but also was told that someone would call me weekly to inform about the case. that means no decision for the next couple of weeks
As someone advised you earlier, following phone advice form the HO is a no-no. They have a standard reply for everyone who calls.
from the research I did online the impression I( and not only me) had is that the Home Office is prioritizing quantity, so that it looks like things are running smoothly. that mean;
case that are easy, that are approved immediately. any case the caseworker needs to actually look at the evidences will be left to be sorted later on.
I agree with you here, this seems to be the case (although I believe there have been non-EU, non-PR card holders, who have been granted Pre-settled status already. They might be easy cases as well).
if you calculated that new individuals apply every day and soon Apple users are also be able to apply you can figure out that it will take a long time until they look at family members cases.
I don't think apple apps are in scope. I think, what you can do is complete the application online, without using the Android app, and probably actually send your documents. In any case, I can also see how applications that are not prioritized could be delayed until March.
there some information that are not available to the public. for example, case that were not analysed form the previews phase. the Home office says that 100% of cases analysed got settle or pre settled status. it does explain what happened to does not analysed.

just one example;

"During the first pilot, which opened in August to staff from 12 NHS Trusts and three universities in north-west England, 1,053 EU citizens applied, of which 591 were granted settled status; 333 were granted pre-settled status, the status for EU nationals who have been here less than five years; and “no cases were refused”, a Home Office report specifies (what happened to the other 129 is unclear)."

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/brexit- ... plications

also check out;

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/02 ... status-app
Yeap, it does seem like the process is designed to make it extremely simple and quick for full-time EU employees, and people with already PR, and this is a way to show numbers, and quantitative results.

If that's the case... so what? Testing first for sunny day scenarios is normal. It's good that the HO is actually doing this in phases, and gathering feedback at the end of each one.
I do not want to scare or stress anyone. but the sighs are not good.
Again, the actual launch of the app is the end of March, with a window to apply until the end of 2020. I say we are well in advance. Nothing to worry about.
I agree with most of what you are saying. I just think that this kind of information should be out there. I understand that the H.O wants to look efficient by focus on quantity. but if I knew that my case would not even been look at until everyone else case was done. I would not have applied.

I understand that if the H.O puts this information out there people just not going to apply. but by hiding this information makes people feel deceived.

do you want to be stuck in this situation for months ? or god knows how long ?
do you understand that if 3.5 million people apply for the settle status, 12.3%( what the H.O did not even analysed from the previews phases) will be 43 thousand whose cases will not eve be looked at for probably over 1 year, or even longer.

that is without taking into consideration that the previews phases only PR and EU Nationals applied. these numbers could be a lot high this time

would you had applied if you knew that you could be one of the 43,000 individuals who will ended up stuck without a decision according to the H.O reports ????

Good Luck all. x
Thanks. x

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by ikechu » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:30 pm

Hi Davis-r.
My suggestion goes likes these. Pray, Relax and let the Miracle and Grace that is Available Work for You. Try and Focus on your studies and Examine. Don't witdraw your application it makes know sense at all. You have Given your best that is Enough. Good luck

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by Davidclr » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:23 pm

ikechu wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:30 pm
Hi Davis-r.
My suggestion goes likes these. Pray, Relax and let the Miracle and Grace that is Available Work for You. Try and Focus on your studies and Examine. Don't witdraw your application it makes know sense at all. You have Given your best that is Enough. Good luck
Thanks a lot Ikechu,

That is exactly what I am doing. there is not point trying to withdraw my application as the casework will not look at it. the H.O is trying to avoid negative data. any "bad" data is hidden, manipulated, etc...

what worried me a lot whilst analyzing the information available online was the amount of lies. when a government manipulates information, especially making people lie on their behalf the way they are doing, is a very dangerous signal.

I remember one time in history when this happened, when asked why people did what they did, they said " because I was told so" those were people who worked for Nazi Germany.
why did you lie, kill, etc.. ? because I ordered, I was told so, this is the line I was told to say, etc...

on the other side of the fence there were people who said " do not worry, everything will be fine! they are doing what is better for us"

now I just want to study hard, and make sure I am ready to leave before they invite us to the concentration camps. remember guys, NO SHOWER!

good luck everyone!

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by goodpartner » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:03 am

Davidclr wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:23 pm
ikechu wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:30 pm
Hi Davis-r.
My suggestion goes likes these. Pray, Relax and let the Miracle and Grace that is Available Work for You. Try and Focus on your studies and Examine. Don't witdraw your application it makes know sense at all. You have Given your best that is Enough. Good luck
Thanks a lot Ikechu,

That is exactly what I am doing. there is not point trying to withdraw my application as the casework will not look at it. the H.O is trying to avoid negative data. any "bad" data is hidden, manipulated, etc...

what worried me a lot whilst analyzing the information available online was the amount of lies. when a government manipulates information, especially making people lie on their behalf the way they are doing, is a very dangerous signal.

I remember one time in history when this happened, when asked why people did what they did, they said " because I was told so" those were people who worked for Nazi Germany.
why did you lie, kill, etc.. ? because I ordered, I was told so, this is the line I was told to say, etc...

on the other side of the fence there were people who said " do not worry, everything will be fine! they are doing what is better for us"

now I just want to study hard, and make sure I am ready to leave before they invite us to the concentration camps. remember guys, NO SHOWER!

good luck everyone!


Davidclr, I think you overthink about this process too much. I will apply for pre-settlement status and will put here the timeline.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by kamoe » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:50 am

Davidclr wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:03 pm
I just think that this kind of information should be out there. I understand that the H.O wants to look efficient by focus on quantity. but if I knew that my case would not even been look at until everyone else case was done. I would not have applied.
Agree 100% with you here.
I understand that if the H.O puts this information out there people just not going to apply. but by hiding this information makes people feel deceived.
Yeap, not ideal. I agree this should have been clear, and also, the maximum time frame they need to respect to give an answer.
do you want to be stuck in this situation for months ? or god knows how long ?
do you understand that if 3.5 million people apply for the settle status, 12.3%( what the H.O did not even analysed from the previews phases) will be 43 thousand whose cases will not eve be looked at for probably over 1 year, or even longer.
that is without taking into consideration that the previews phases only PR and EU Nationals applied. these numbers could be a lot high this time
Would be good to know who has applied last year and is still waiting for an answer. I believe there are a few cases here. Anyone?
would you had applied if you knew that you could be one of the 43,000 individuals who will ended up stuck without a decision according to the H.O reports ????
Nope, the prospect of waiting until the end of time is not appealing, and I would have rather applied once concrete deadlines were clear. But hey, as I said, we are in advance. I want to think we are helping the HO rectify the process before it actually and officially goes live to everyone. I'll give it two more weeks, and If I still receive no news, I'll start inquiring.
My posts express what I believe are the facts, based on the best of my knowledge, about the topics discussed in this forum. They do not constitute immigration advice.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by kamoe » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:56 am

Jimmybones100 wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:09 pm
Received my email today,have been granted pre settled status as have just finished my first year of my RC,says from 2021 we will be under British immigration rules.
Did the app offer you Settled or Pre-Settled status when you applied?
And am I right in calculating that, since you applied on Dec 17th 2018, this makes it a total of 7 weeks waiting time?
My posts express what I believe are the facts, based on the best of my knowledge, about the topics discussed in this forum. They do not constitute immigration advice.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by Davidclr » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:55 pm

I said I would not worried about it or do anymore research on the subjects but I could not help myself.

so I look at the data available online once more and compared it. I will separate what is factual data, from what is future scenario based on the data available, to what is my personal opinion. I will put the link to the sources below.

PAY ATTENTION TO THE DATES

Private beta phase 1 (PB1) straight forward ( pre approved ) cases only. this are PR, and EU citizen only.( 28.08 to 17.10) (8 weeks)
1053 applications( average of 132 decisions made a week)
591 settled status
333 pre settled status
129 cases not looked at( no decision) about 12.3%

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _Final.pdf


Private beta phase 2 still only straight forward( pre approved cases)
29,987 applications submitted from 1 November to 21 December 2018 ( 8 weeks)v 3.749 decisions a week
27,211 decisions had been made
2,776 left with no decision( about 9.3%)

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... e-2-report

NOW FUTURE SCENARIOS OF WHAT THE OFFICIAL NUMBER SHOWS;

3.5 million EU citizens and family member applying would take the home office if we consider the best possible case scenario.

3.5 million application, 20% of then are not straightforward cases.

2.8 million straightforward cases would take the H.O 933 weeks to process, what means 17 years.
only then they would be able to Look at cases that are not so easy.( I don't mean cases that are complicated, I mean just cases that would take for example 2 hours to check)

If the HO double its capacity compared to the last phase it would still take 8.5 years to process all straightforward cases.

remember this are not Random number this are numbers based on the official reports.

PERSONAL OPINION BASED ON THE FACTS

I Think the settled status scheme is just like the Brexit Lorry test. it is not real. it is just a pretending game. it is just to show that The U.K is serious about leaving without a deal.

I think once a deal is reached, or brexit is scraped. the H.O will say, you applied that is good for you. but once we have a deal or we are staying in the customs union there is no point for the rest of EU citizen living in the uk to apply for settled status.
so why run such a expensive scheme just to use us as bargain chip ? well that is were selling for ours data protection right and data for free ,come to place.

we had to agree to it when we applied for the settled status.

The H.O will make millions by selling ours data to third parties. that will pay for the expenses and provide a massive income for them for years to come.

after looking at the data once more I feel used. but also better to know that it is not as bad as I thought.

Good Luck All!

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by Davidclr » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:20 pm

Davidclr wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:55 pm
I said I would not worried about it or do anymore research on the subjects but I could not help myself.

so I look at the data available online once more and compared it. I will separate what is factual data, from what is future scenario based on the data available, to what is my personal opinion. I will put the link to the sources below.

PAY ATTENTION TO THE DATES

Private beta phase 1 (PB1) straight forward ( pre approved ) cases only. this are PR, and EU citizen only.( 28.08 to 17.10) (8 weeks)
1053 applications( average of 132 decisions made a week)
591 settled status
333 pre settled status
129 cases not looked at( no decision) about 12.3%

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _Final.pdf


Private beta phase 2 still only straight forward( pre approved cases)
29,987 applications submitted from 1 November to 21 December 2018 ( 8 weeks)v 3.749 decisions a week
27,211 decisions had been made
2,776 left with no decision( about 9.3%)

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... e-2-report

NOW FUTURE SCENARIOS OF WHAT THE OFFICIAL NUMBER SHOWS;

3.5 million EU citizens and family member applying would take the home office if we consider the best possible case scenario.

3.5 million application, 20% of then are not straightforward cases.

2.8 million straightforward cases would take the H.O 933 weeks to process, what means 17 years.
only then they would be able to Look at cases that are not so easy.( I don't mean cases that are complicated, I mean just cases that would take for example 2 hours to check)

If the HO double its capacity compared to the last phase it would still take 8.5 years to process all straightforward cases.

remember this are not Random number this are numbers based on the official reports.

PERSONAL OPINION BASED ON THE FACTS

I Think the settled status scheme is just like the Brexit Lorry test. it is not real. it is just a pretending game. it is just to show that The U.K is serious about leaving without a deal.

I think once a deal is reached, or brexit is scraped. the H.O will say, you applied that is good for you. but once we have a deal or we are staying in the customs union there is no point for the rest of EU citizen living in the uk to apply for settled status.
so why run such a expensive scheme just to use us as bargain chip ? well that is were selling for ours data protection right and data for free ,come to place.

we had to agree to it when we applied for the settled status.

The H.O will make millions by selling ours data to third parties. that will pay for the expenses and provide a massive income for them for years to come.

after looking at the data once more I feel used. but also better to know that it is not as bad as I thought.

Good Luck All!
I just thought that I should also mention that regarding family member the H.O reply to the website xxxxxxx on page 52. ( questions put to the HO by xxxxxxx)

OI 7.3: "As well as this digital means of evidencing their status, non-EU citizen family members in the UK granted status under the EU Settlement Scheme will also be issued with a biometric residence document, where they do not already hold a biometric residence card issued under the EEA Regulations. This will provide them with a convenient way of evidencing their status to those who may need to see confirmation of it,such as an employer, landlord or service provider. "

Third party weblink removed.

so maybe there is no reason to freak out.

that could also be the reason for the delays. it does not change the fact that the numbers provided by the reports does not add up.

Good Luck all.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by rooibos » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:16 am

I have reasons to believe the so called Settled Status is just a placebo for this government to test the waters. Who gets it and who doesn't is just a random process.

@Davidclr , you hit the nail on the coffin. The government has sold this scheme as a "registration" for EU citizens to the semi-illiterate tabloid readers. It served its purpose of using us as bargaining chips. Now that the bargaining chip has moved onto the North/South Irish border, the possible outcomes are two: IRL for anybody who applies or for nobody.

I was going to apply, but, given the farce developing before our eyes, I urge everybody not to apply for it yet. There's absolutely no plan behind it. Any future government can scrap this scheme at any time. Those who have already applied have received nothing in return yet, as the settled scheme is only linked to the passport chip and not the NINO (yet).

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by arya_uk » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:07 am

Presettled status ( EU National and two dependents)
Applied - 6th February 2019 7.30PM
COA - 7.35 PM
Presettled Status Confirmation -
- 7th Feb for EU National( 8.30 AM)
- 7th Feb Non-EU Spouse (2.59 PM)
- 8th Feb Child (8.45 AM)

Thank you, everyone.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by Davidclr » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:39 pm

rooibos wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:16 am
I have reasons to believe the so called Settled Status is just a placebo for this government to test the waters. Who gets it and who doesn't is just a random process.

@Davidclr , you hit the nail on the coffin. The government has sold this scheme as a "registration" for EU citizens to the semi-illiterate tabloid readers. It served its purpose of using us as bargaining chips. Now that the bargaining chip has moved onto the North/South Irish border, the possible outcomes are two: IRL for anybody who applies or for nobody.

I was going to apply, but, given the farce developing before our eyes, I urge everybody not to apply for it yet. There's absolutely no plan behind it. Any future government can scrap this scheme at any time. Those who have already applied have received nothing in return yet, as the settled scheme is only linked to the passport chip and not the NINO (yet).
I did a bit of research before appy, but as I didn't have enough spare time I didn't go deep in to it. I also thought I didn't need. I thought I would not be lied to this way.

I would be careful about not applying though. depending on how things unfold you may get stuck in the 17 years paper work that the HO will have to go in order to register everyone if you apply after 30th of March.

It is up to each individual to decide.

I am about to try to get some clarification about these datas we collected online. let see what they have to say about it.

Good Luck everyone! May the force and patience be with you!

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by Davidclr » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:40 pm

I spoke with the resolution centre!

as I predicted they won't comment, confirm or deny any information we found in the last 2 reports!
the only way I can get this information is by put a request through freedom of information what would take months, years and could still be denied.

my personal advice whether one should apply or not.

it is a gamble!

The price is your freedom of information rights and information you have to provide to apply. and you patience of course.

The prize peace of mind knowing that if you wait you may get stuck in the queue for months or years.

The risk is that you may go through all this for nothing because registering everyone with the staff they have at the moment is impossible, they may just scrap the whole thing.

the only way they can register everyone is by increase the resources they have by 15 times. imagine the cost of employing 15x the number of staff they have at the moment. and it would still take around 4 year to go through every application.

this will probably be my last post until I get a decision.

Good luck all!

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by LM2 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:21 pm

Non EU Family mb
- Application submitted and online payment: 06/02/2019
- Pre-settled status granted: 08/02/2019

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by diamond45 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:56 am

LM2 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:21 pm
Non EU Family mb
- Application submitted and online payment: 06/02/2019
- Pre-settled status granted: 08/02/2019
Hi LM2,
Did you apply alone non EU Family mb without your EU SPONSOR.
I asked this because just wondering if non EU family member can apply without his/her EU partner.

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Re: Settled status processing times

Post by rooibos » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:14 am

Davidclr wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:39 pm
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I would be careful about not applying though. depending on how things unfold you may get stuck in the 17 years paper work that the HO will have to go in order to register everyone if you apply after 30th of March.
I don't get where the 17 years after the 30 March come from. Are you saying the HO will use different parameters after the 30 March?

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