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All the guidelines, all the people who applied successfully, everyone suggests to attach pictures: you didn’t and now you are complaining blaming them?pinarita wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:52 amHi everyone!
I wanted to share my situation with you because I think it is “HILARIOUS” and you should understand how disrespectfully the UK visa autorities are treating people.
I am a Non-EU national living in Spain legally for more than 7 years. My Spanish husband and I have been married for almost 4 years (got married in my country but also ratified the marriage in Spain). Before the marriage we were registered as civil partners in Spain for 3 years more. (In summary we have been living together for 7 years in Spain) I hold a permanent residence card for Spain as a family member of a Spanish citizen.
Last October we were thinking about moving to the UK to make a change in our lives, so I applied for FP visa in Madrid visa office in October 2017. I provided all the necessary documents like marriage certificate in multilingual international format issued by Spanish authorities, Spanish family book, address registration from the city hall confirming that we are living together, civil partnership certificate, joint bank account certificates, former FM visa, etc. More importantly the Spanish residence card of a family member of an EU citizen.
I was informed that on these days the UK was taking this process very slowly (it wasn’t a real problem for us because both of us were already working in good jobs in Spain) but I never thought that I would receive a refusal to my application. I was already issued a FP 4-5 years ago when we were just civil partners, not married.
After four months of waiting, last Friday I finally received the answer to my application and I was shocked because it was a refusal. When I read the reasons they provided, first I didn’t even understand it and after started to laugh. Here they are:
-As proof of your relationship to your EEA national sponsor you have provided a Spanish
marriage certificate. However, this document details that the it was issued on
09/10/2017, nearly 3 years after your wedding day: 21/06/2014. Due to the length of
time between the wedding ceremony and the date of issue, this certificate cannot be
accepted as reliable evidence of your relationship to your EEA national sponsor.
(WHAT???? I don’t know the other countries but in Spain the marriage certificates are issued by the date you ask for it and they are valid for 3 months. A marriage certificate issued 3-4 years ago wouldn’t be valid because you might have divorced later. Plus, the certificate format was an international one that are agreed by many countries including Spain and the UK)
- It is also noted that your marriage certificate states that you and your sponsor got
married in xxx (my country of origin). This leads me to believe that the document submitted
isn’t your original marriage certificate. You must provide your original marriage
certificate which was issued and registered around the time of the ceremony.
Furthermore, you have not provided any photographs of your wedding to prove that the
ceremony took place. (Photos????? Really???)
- You have also provided a Spanish family book and letters from Barcelona Council
stating that you and your sponsor are stable partners. However, these documents are
deemed insufficient in proving your relationship to your EEA national sponsor.
Furthermore, you have provided no other documents to satisfy me that the relationship
is genuine, subsisting and is not one of convenience. There are no photographs of you
together at any time, no evidence of cohabitation or anything else to evidence the
relationship between you. (I did provide address registration from the city hall confirming that we are living together, joint bank account certificates, and SPANISH RESIDENCE CARD OF A FAMILY MEMBER OF AN EU CITIZEN! What else ???? Really photos??? Obviously we have hunders of photos taken together but they can not refuse my application because I just didn't submitted photos.)
-I therefore am not satisfied that you have a genuine relationship with an EEA national
and that you are genuinely an EEA partner in accordance with regulation 7 of the
Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006.
I therefore refuse your EEA Family Permit application because I am not satisfied that
you meet all of the requirements of regulation 7 (see ECGs EUN2.23)of the Immigration
(European Economic Area) Regulations 2016
This is like a joke. Obviously, they refused my application because they wanted so. They are capable to refuse any application based on anything. You have only 2 eyes and 2 hands but the minimum acceptance limit for us is 3…
I don’t know if I am going to appeal. I don’t really need to move to the UK and probably by the end of 2018 I will become a Spanish citizen (no visa need for Spanish). If I appeal, I will do it because of the disrespect and the ignorance they show. I don’t want them win. I want to give them more paperwork to deal with....
Good luck to everyone…
Bills just are needed to show that you are living together, so why you should provide 3 months of bills?yanaveron wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:33 amThank you very much ! So there isn’t need to show bills for the last 3 months, enough only for the last month? With payslips all clear. My unique concern is the period of bills...dan1988uk wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:30 amPayslips: 3 months.
Bills: just recent ones that show your name and your spouse's name (or together). Home Office's guidelines say that they want at least 6 bills from 3 different sources with both of your names. We attached 1 electricity and gas bill (my wife's name), 1 internet bill (my name), 1 water bill (both names), bank letters (one on my name, one on my wife's name and our joint account's letter). I also attached Tesco online grocery receipts and tenancy agreement on both names.
I think it means refusal. Did you get the mail of sheffield, not the TLS center? normally there is a attachment in it with the letter of the decision...That's what happens to me
Anything, just the passaport but if is refused why took 9 months and why without explain? There proof how much glamour has England.
Did you check in the spam in your mail? Maybe your mail take it to the junk...It takes that long because they just did not review your application before. I am speechless of how they process.Merzit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:40 pmAnything, just the passaport but if is refused why took 9 months and why without explain? There proof how much glamour has England.
Nothing nothing, I called my lawyer and he said he gonna try call there to see what’s goind ontwitwi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:37 pmDid you check in the spam in your mail? Maybe your mail take it to the junk...It takes that long because they just did not review your application before. I am speechless of how they process.Merzit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:40 pmAnything, just the passaport but if is refused why took 9 months and why without explain? There proof how much glamour has England.
Mughlii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:49 pmhi every one i am glad to tell that i made it i am in manchester now i am regretting that i wasted my 6 months for nothing but i will make them to pay for it coz now i am here and i made it very easily i got stamped on airport for six months eea family permit i am sorry for those who guide you wrong they are lods of in this forum don't listen them just book ur tickets and jump in with ur eea spouse bring ur documents with u merriage certificatr or civil partnerships certficate or any proof of being family member of eea national and take ur residence card thats all u need but obviously ur spouse with you travel together specially those who are from spain don't hesitate they even didn't ask any documents from me they are very rude but dont be scared just answer and they will ask u for visa butt tell them that u dont need one it is mentioned on ur website thats it they will try thier best to send u back but dont scared just say that we want to go for visit just for one month and u know that aswell we dont need visa thats all
best of luk for those who r going to do that
I am in Spain with my husband, he got the residence card spanish, he can travel with me? I have the certificate and all proofs about we are married but I dont have contract and payslip becuase we been in Spain 1 year, you think is possible enter?unuojeye wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:01 pmHello Zee 11, if your in law has the communitario resident card, just tell her to buy ticket immediately.tell her to hold marriage certificate, the family book, the husband working contract, 3 months pay slip
I arrived in UK February 1 with my Spanish family member resident card.but my husband came with the kids and we all travelled back together.don, t waste time.tell her to buy ticket immediately. My husband also held the tenancy agreement letter and council tax bill.just tell her to hold everything she used to apply.I wish her the best.
Hey Dan, I think that was unnecessary and hash on the poor guy that just got her visa refused without any legal justification.dan1988uk wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:10 pmAll the guidelines, all the people who applied successfully, everyone suggests to attach pictures: you didn’t and now you are complaining blaming them?pinarita wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:52 amHi everyone!
I wanted to share my situation with you because I think it is “HILARIOUS” and you should understand how disrespectfully the UK visa autorities are treating people.
I am a Non-EU national living in Spain legally for more than 7 years. My Spanish husband and I have been married for almost 4 years (got married in my country but also ratified the marriage in Spain). Before the marriage we were registered as civil partners in Spain for 3 years more. (In summary we have been living together for 7 years in Spain) I hold a permanent residence card for Spain as a family member of a Spanish citizen.
Last October we were thinking about moving to the UK to make a change in our lives, so I applied for FP visa in Madrid visa office in October 2017. I provided all the necessary documents like marriage certificate in multilingual international format issued by Spanish authorities, Spanish family book, address registration from the city hall confirming that we are living together, civil partnership certificate, joint bank account certificates, former FM visa, etc. More importantly the Spanish residence card of a family member of an EU citizen.
I was informed that on these days the UK was taking this process very slowly (it wasn’t a real problem for us because both of us were already working in good jobs in Spain) but I never thought that I would receive a refusal to my application. I was already issued a FP 4-5 years ago when we were just civil partners, not married.
After four months of waiting, last Friday I finally received the answer to my application and I was shocked because it was a refusal. When I read the reasons they provided, first I didn’t even understand it and after started to laugh. Here they are:
-As proof of your relationship to your EEA national sponsor you have provided a Spanish
marriage certificate. However, this document details that the it was issued on
09/10/2017, nearly 3 years after your wedding day: 21/06/2014. Due to the length of
time between the wedding ceremony and the date of issue, this certificate cannot be
accepted as reliable evidence of your relationship to your EEA national sponsor.
(WHAT???? I don’t know the other countries but in Spain the marriage certificates are issued by the date you ask for it and they are valid for 3 months. A marriage certificate issued 3-4 years ago wouldn’t be valid because you might have divorced later. Plus, the certificate format was an international one that are agreed by many countries including Spain and the UK)
- It is also noted that your marriage certificate states that you and your sponsor got
married in xxx (my country of origin). This leads me to believe that the document submitted
isn’t your original marriage certificate. You must provide your original marriage
certificate which was issued and registered around the time of the ceremony.
Furthermore, you have not provided any photographs of your wedding to prove that the
ceremony took place. (Photos????? Really???)
- You have also provided a Spanish family book and letters from Barcelona Council
stating that you and your sponsor are stable partners. However, these documents are
deemed insufficient in proving your relationship to your EEA national sponsor.
Furthermore, you have provided no other documents to satisfy me that the relationship
is genuine, subsisting and is not one of convenience. There are no photographs of you
together at any time, no evidence of cohabitation or anything else to evidence the
relationship between you. (I did provide address registration from the city hall confirming that we are living together, joint bank account certificates, and SPANISH RESIDENCE CARD OF A FAMILY MEMBER OF AN EU CITIZEN! What else ???? Really photos??? Obviously we have hunders of photos taken together but they can not refuse my application because I just didn't submitted photos.)
-I therefore am not satisfied that you have a genuine relationship with an EEA national
and that you are genuinely an EEA partner in accordance with regulation 7 of the
Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006.
I therefore refuse your EEA Family Permit application because I am not satisfied that
you meet all of the requirements of regulation 7 (see ECGs EUN2.23)of the Immigration
(European Economic Area) Regulations 2016
This is like a joke. Obviously, they refused my application because they wanted so. They are capable to refuse any application based on anything. You have only 2 eyes and 2 hands but the minimum acceptance limit for us is 3…
I don’t know if I am going to appeal. I don’t really need to move to the UK and probably by the end of 2018 I will become a Spanish citizen (no visa need for Spanish). If I appeal, I will do it because of the disrespect and the ignorance they show. I don’t want them win. I want to give them more paperwork to deal with....
Good luck to everyone…
Hellounuojeye wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:29 amHello Merit, if your husband has the family member resident card,( communitario) yes he can travel with you.but you need to hold proof of where you will stay and proof of your financial state.and your marriage certificate, libro del familiar, pictures....just hold everything you have. Proof that you are financially stable that you can take care of your needs or someone else will be responsible for your financial needs.All the best Merzit.
Ok I’ll take all my papers and card, do you think the police in the airport ask me something like if I enter for holidays? Or maybe ask me where im gonna live? Please tell me what they ask youunuojeye wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:17 pmHello Merzit, Is any Of you still working? If yea then hold your statement of account or of anyone who will stand for you as a sponsor.but for now , just try since you have your family resident card.you should not have too much difficulty.do not be afraid.try.you will pass successfully.
Hi Unounuojeye wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:30 amHello Merzit, they only ask questions about marriage.to prove that you are truly a couple.and why the date the marriage certificate printed is different from the date we got married.answer is simple.we print certificate when ever we need it and it, s only valid for 3 months in spain.but our cases may differ, so just relax. But on a second thought , you must have a place you will stay when you get there.just hold a proof of where you will stay.best of luck to you and everyone else.
unuojeye wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:01 pmHello Zee 11, if your in law has the communitario resident card, just tell her to buy ticket immediately.tell her to hold marriage certificate, the family book, the husband working contract, 3 months pay slip
I arrived in UK February 1 with my Spanish family member resident card.but my husband came with the kids and we all travelled back together.don, t waste time.tell her to buy ticket immediately. My husband also held the tenancy agreement letter and council tax bill.just tell her to hold everything she used to apply.I wish her the best.
Can you apply for national insurance right away? Or you need to apply for residence card first?
