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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Tiktok » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:31 am

Northern_Lights wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:03 am
UPDATE

Here is our timeline for our 4th EEA Extended Family Member Permit Application:

pplication Type: EEA Extended Family Member (Brother)
Online application: 14/01/2020
Documents Self Uploaded: 29/01/2020
Biometrics (Lahore VFS): 30/01/2020
Receipt Acknowledged (Liverpool): 31/01/2020
Email notification to collect Passport: 14/02/2020
Collection: 19/02/2020
Decision: REFUSED (Surprise, Surprise!)

Reason for Refusal:

"As evidence of being dependent on your Sponsor you have provided money Transfer Receipts from him to you. The fact of transferring money is not evidence that it is needed by the recipient. We would expect to see evidence which fully details yours and your family's circumstances, such as your income, expenditure and evidence of your financial position which would prove that without the financial support of your sponsor your essential needs could not be met.

Guidance states that financial dependence should be interpreted as meaning that you need the support of your EEA national in order to meet your essential needs in the country where you are present - not in order to have a certain level of income.
You have not demonstrated that the money you have received is used in any way to support you in meeting your essential needs.
It is noted you have provided a bank statement which covers the period 01 January 2019 to 14 January 2020
, however considering the length of time you claim to have been dependent on your sponsor, we expect to see evidence evidence of your financial status over a prolonged period."



Really sorry to hear that its quite sad I dont know what they expect from us

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by docado » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:41 am

Nuna78 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:55 pm
Hi guys,
I spoke to one solicitor today regarding my brother case.and what he told me is shocking that for EXTENDED family members there is no hope.he said if you apply again it will be refused again or if you do appeal then you cannot submit more proofs.and with same papers chances are very slim like it depends on judge mode to accept or not.is it true? Or should I look for better lawyer.
If some can recommend me a good lawyer plz let me know.thanks
Hi Nuna,
I agree with your solicitors opinion. There is an obvious shift in the policy of giving FPs to EFM of EEA. This my statement is based on experiences of my own EFMs as well as I read through threads on this forum and conversation with many applicants I know. Well if its not policy shift then at least it is tightened now that is true.

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Damax » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:43 pm

docado wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:41 am
Nuna78 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:55 pm
Hi guys,
I spoke to one solicitor today regarding my brother case.and what he told me is shocking that for EXTENDED family members there is no hope.he said if you apply again it will be refused again or if you do appeal then you cannot submit more proofs.and with same papers chances are very slim like it depends on judge mode to accept or not.is it true? Or should I look for better lawyer.
If some can recommend me a good lawyer plz let me know.thanks
Hi Nuna,
I agree with your solicitors opinion. There is an obvious shift in the policy of giving FPs to EFM of EEA. This my statement is based on experiences of my own EFMs as well as I read through threads on this forum and conversation with many applicants I know. Well if its not policy shift then at least it is tightened now that is true.
Hi Nana, it's true somewhat but there are people who just got for example mother in law's EEA family permit. She is also extended family member I believe so if I am not wrong. You need to get advise from a better lawyer. I spoke to one he said 850 pounds in advance and I can try my best but it's not gurnteed. I asked him to do no win no fees based but he didn't agree. Then I contacted another one they simply said book phone appointment and I think that's 150 pounds for the call. I told them I will let you know.
I know another lawyer he says 2000 pounds for a case.
These solisators are ripping off people.
They just have to explain the story or whole thing.
They have templates for that and they are asking too much money.

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Nuna78 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:14 pm

Damax wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:43 pm
docado wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:41 am
Nuna78 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:55 pm
Hi guys,
I spoke to one solicitor today regarding my brother case.and what he told me is shocking that for EXTENDED family members there is no hope.he said if you apply again it will be refused again or if you do appeal then you cannot submit more proofs.and with same papers chances are very slim like it depends on judge mode to accept or not.is it true? Or should I look for better lawyer.
If some can recommend me a good lawyer plz let me know.thanks
Hi Nuna,
I agree with your solicitors opinion. There is an obvious shift in the policy of giving FPs to EFM of EEA. This my statement is based on experiences of my own EFMs as well as I read through threads on this forum and conversation with many applicants I know. Well if its not policy shift then at least it is tightened now that is true.
Hi Nana, it's true somewhat but there are people who just got for example mother in law's EEA family permit. She is also extended family member I believe so if I am not wrong. You need to get advise from a better lawyer. I spoke to one he said 850 pounds in advance and I can try my best but it's not gurnteed. I asked him to do no win no fees based but he didn't agree. Then I contacted another one they simply said book phone appointment and I think that's 150 pounds for the call. I told them I will let you know.
I know another lawyer he says 2000 pounds for a case.
These solisators are ripping off people.
They just have to explain the story or whole thing.
They have templates for that and they are asking too much money.



Yeah it is true those solicitors just wanna make money.but I think if we have provided everything and they still refusing then the best way is to appeal.
We have to take our chances. Giving up is not the option for me.
Bro it will be alot if help if you can give me number of the lawyer who said 850.or any other good one.thanks I will appreciate that.if I find a good 1 I will let you know is well.thanks

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by tata123 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:28 pm

Hello Everyone,
I need some help regarding the Entry in UK. I'm living in Italy at the moment and has applied for the residence card but still waiting for the decision. My wife lives in UK with her father. My father in law is EU national living in UK for past 4 years. He is a qualified person. My wife is expecting a child in May. I wanted to be with her at that time. I'm also depending on my father in law as he sends me money twice a month.
My wife has also 5 year Family member of EU national and is depend on her father.
My question is that if I go to the UK border in France with my Father in law and explain my circumstance will the border officer will give me entry in the UK?
I'm really looking forward for your help. Thanks in advance

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Damax » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:33 pm

tata123 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:28 pm
Hello Everyone,
I need some help regarding the Entry in UK. I'm living in Italy at the moment and has applied for the residence card but still waiting for the decision. My wife lives in UK with her father. My father in law is EU national living in UK for past 4 years. He is a qualified person. My wife is expecting a child in May. I wanted to be with her at that time. I'm also depending on my father in law as he sends me money twice a month.
My wife has also 5 year Family member of EU national and is depend on her father.
My question is that if I go to the UK border in France with my Father in law and explain my circumstance will the border officer will give me entry in the UK?
I'm really looking forward for your help. Thanks in advance
Hi, do you have residence permit or visa for UK? If yes, then you can go through any channel or mode. If you don't have residence permit or visa to UK and you are trying to go without one with Italian residence permit or visa then you can't go there.
They are immigration officers or staff they don't offer visas on French boarder. They are there to check that you have what is needed to travel to UK.
I hope it clears your doubt.
Best of luck.

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by tata123 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:58 pm

hi thanks for replying. I have talked with some solicitors in Uk. They said you can try through this mode. As on the UKBA website, its mentioned that you can be issue visa on the border but doesnt mentioned any thing in detail.

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Damax » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:34 pm

Nuna78 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:14 pm
Damax wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:43 pm
docado wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:41 am
Nuna78 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:55 pm
Hi guys,
I spoke to one solicitor today regarding my brother case.and what he told me is shocking that for EXTENDED family members there is no hope.he said if you apply again it will be refused again or if you do appeal then you cannot submit more proofs.and with same papers chances are very slim like it depends on judge mode to accept or not.is it true? Or should I look for better lawyer.
If some can recommend me a good lawyer plz let me know.thanks
Hi Nuna,
I agree with your solicitors opinion. There is an obvious shift in the policy of giving FPs to EFM of EEA. This my statement is based on experiences of my own EFMs as well as I read through threads on this forum and conversation with many applicants I know. Well if its not policy shift then at least it is tightened now that is true.
Hi Nana, it's true somewhat but there are people who just got for example mother in law's EEA family permit. She is also extended family member I believe so if I am not wrong. You need to get advise from a better lawyer. I spoke to one he said 850 pounds in advance and I can try my best but it's not gurnteed. I asked him to do no win no fees based but he didn't agree. Then I contacted another one they simply said book phone appointment and I think that's 150 pounds for the call. I told them I will let you know.
I know another lawyer he says 2000 pounds for a case.
These solisators are ripping off people.
They just have to explain the story or whole thing.
They have templates for that and they are asking too much money.



Yeah it is true those solicitors just wanna make money.but I think if we have provided everything and they still refusing then the best way is to appeal.
We have to take our chances. Giving up is not the option for me.
Bro it will be alot if help if you can give me number of the lawyer who said 850.or any other good one.thanks I will appreciate that.if I find a good 1 I will let you know is well.thanks
This guy asked me 850 pounds for extended family member's permit (brother).


"Xxxxxxx

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Nuna78 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:38 pm

Damax wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:34 pm
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Nuna78 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:14 pm
Damax wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:43 pm
docado wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:41 am


Hi Nuna,
I agree with your solicitors opinion. There is an obvious shift in the policy of giving FPs to EFM of EEA. This my statement is based on experiences of my own EFMs as well as I read through threads on this forum and conversation with many applicants I know. Well if its not policy shift then at least it is tightened now that is true.
Hi Nana, it's true somewhat but there are people who just got for example mother in law's EEA family permit. She is also extended family member I believe so if I am not wrong. You need to get advise from a better lawyer. I spoke to one he said 850 pounds in advance and I can try my best but it's not gurnteed. I asked him to do no win no fees based but he didn't agree. Then I contacted another one they simply said book phone appointment and I think that's 150 pounds for the call. I told them I will let you know.
I know another lawyer he says 2000 pounds for a case.
These solisators are ripping off people.
They just have to explain the story or whole thing.
They have templates for that and they are asking too much money.



Yeah it is true those solicitors just wanna make money.but I think if we have provided everything and they still refusing then the best way is to appeal.
We have to take our chances. Giving up is not the option for me.
Bro it will be alot if help if you can give me number of the lawyer who said 850.or any other good one.thanks I will appreciate that.if I find a good 1 I will let you know is well.thanks
This guy asked me 850 pounds for extended family member's permit (brother).
"Xxxxxxx



Thanks bro.i will try calling him tomorrow.honestly i did not know it's that difficult to get family permit .they just not giving to any body.but I really wanna appeal and want to go all the way.lets hope for the best.

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Northern_Lights » Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:07 pm

tata123 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:28 pm
Hello Everyone,
I need some help regarding the Entry in UK. I'm living in Italy at the moment and has applied for the residence card but still waiting for the decision. My wife lives in UK with her father. My father in law is EU national living in UK for past 4 years. He is a qualified person. My wife is expecting a child in May. I wanted to be with her at that time. I'm also depending on my father in law as he sends me money twice a month.
My wife has also 5 year Family member of EU national and is depend on her father.
My question is that if I go to the UK border in France with my Father in law and explain my circumstance will the border officer will give me entry in the UK?
I'm really looking forward for your help. Thanks in advance
Hi Tata123,

My Cousin did the same thing, her husband was in Italy but just got a residence card (she is a British Citizen).

RyanAir is the only airline that will allow you to fly to the UK without a visa along as your Wife will accompany you and you have all the documents proving your relationship.

It would also be good for your wife to bring scans of your baby and a document confirming when she is due to give birth.

The only issue is whether you will be able to fly without an Italian residency card?

I would suggest you ask your wife to come to Italy and try without it, that way they will let you know the full requirements even of you aren't allowed on flight. Flights are pretty cheap anyway.

GoodLuck

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by tata123 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:19 pm

HI
Thanks for your reply. My wife is also NON EU. I'm thinking to go to france with my father in law (EU national) and then ask for the entry and provide the documents of dependency as well as the hospital documents of my wife confirming the date of expected delivery and also documents showing that she cant able to travel.
which border control point is friendly? thanks

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by CR001 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:25 pm

Damax wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:34 pm
Nuna78 wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:14 pm
Damax wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:43 pm
docado wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:41 am


Hi Nuna,
I agree with your solicitors opinion. There is an obvious shift in the policy of giving FPs to EFM of EEA. This my statement is based on experiences of my own EFMs as well as I read through threads on this forum and conversation with many applicants I know. Well if its not policy shift then at least it is tightened now that is true.
Hi Nana, it's true somewhat but there are people who just got for example mother in law's EEA family permit. She is also extended family member I believe so if I am not wrong. You need to get advise from a better lawyer. I spoke to one he said 850 pounds in advance and I can try my best but it's not gurnteed. I asked him to do no win no fees based but he didn't agree. Then I contacted another one they simply said book phone appointment and I think that's 150 pounds for the call. I told them I will let you know.
I know another lawyer he says 2000 pounds for a case.
These solisators are ripping off people.
They just have to explain the story or whole thing.
They have templates for that and they are asking too much money.



Yeah it is true those solicitors just wanna make money.but I think if we have provided everything and they still refusing then the best way is to appeal.
We have to take our chances. Giving up is not the option for me.
Bro it will be alot if help if you can give me number of the lawyer who said 850.or any other good one.thanks I will appreciate that.if I find a good 1 I will let you know is well.thanks
This guy asked me 850 pounds for extended family member's permit (brother).


"Xxxxxxx
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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Gnud3mn » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:33 pm

Good day all,
I have been following this thread for a while and I wanted to thank everyone for sharing their experience and timeline.

I have just recently applied so let me share my timeline
Online Application : 3rd Feb 2020
Self Uploaded documents: 13th Feb 2020
Biometrics done: 14th Feb 2020
Mail from tlscontact that application has been transferred: 14 Feb 2020
Email confirmation from Liverpool acknowledging receipt of Application: 17 feb 2020

Still waiting for response
thanks

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Gnud3mn » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:39 pm

MeMe04 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:21 am
Hello all posting my timeline again:


Timeline:
Online application: 14/01/2020
Biometrics: 23/01/2020
Email from Liverpool,UK Visa Application - Receipt Acknowledged : 27/01/2020
Email from vfs that my processed application is received : 12/02/20
Passport delivered at my home on 13/02/2020
Visa stamped from "03/02/20 to 03/08/20"
Yayyyy :D

Thank u all you guys for all your status updates and all the support. This forum is really a blessing to those who are eagerly awaiting their response. I really hope that my timeline helps someone in the future.

Wishing all who are still awaiting their response all the very best.
Hello MeMe04 can I ask please what documents did you submit?

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Zephyr_1337 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:08 pm

Dear Readers,

I have been following the posts on this thread and I would like to thank everyone for sharing their experience in the European Family Permit processing times.

The waiting period to know the decision is one of the most toughest phase for this Visa type. I wish UKVI takes some initiative to provide Visa Tracking service for the applicants to track the status via online portal. It will help reduce the stress during the waiting period.

Anyhow, It seems most decisions are arriving within an average of 20 working days (from the date of Biometric submission) but it also depends on the country of visa application submission.

I'll list my timeline below which might be useful for few:

Application Type: EU Settlement Scheme Family Permit (Spouse)
Application Country: UAE, Abu Dhabi
Submission Date: 24th Jan 2020
Biometric on : 29th Jan 2020
Email Acknowledgement from Liverpool with VAF number: 5th Feb 2020
VFS Passport Collection Notification: 20th Feb 2020
FP Entry Clearance Dates from: 13th Feb to 13th Aug

For those waiting for a decision, I'd say patience will be ur best friend. And for those that received a refusal decision, Don't loose hope. Research the reason of refusal and reapply with relevant missing documents and Stay positive. I understand it's really tough though.

Thank you all for your contributions.

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Re Sheffield Visa Section - EU Settlement Scheme FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Jadine11 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:27 pm

Jadine11 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:45 pm
Hi All,

I'm hoping to get some answers from you that may have been in the same situation I find myself in...

I applied online on the 22/01/2020 for my EU settlement scheme family permit.
Did biometrics and documents were scanned on the 27/01/2020.
I received my email from Liverpool confirming receipt of my application and the it would go to an ECO on the 28/01/2020
On the 11/02/2020 I received an email from Liverpool asking that my husband's original Irish passport be sent to them, I also received a separate email stating that my application was not straight forward and wouldn't be processed in the 15 working days set out.
My husband sent his passport and it was signed for and received on the 13/02/2020.

There was an email address in the email requesting my husband's passport that they said to use, I have emailed them asking that they just confirm receipt of his passport it's a very important document.
I have had no response to any of my emails!

Has anyone been in a similar situation and how long did it take to process your application once further documentation had been sent?

Does anyone have an email address for Liverpool that I can use that they actually respond to?

Thank you in advance!!!!

Hi all,

Just an update I contacted UKVI via telephone today and they confirmed that a decision has been made, this being said my nerves are finished!

I have yet to receive a notification via text or email stating my documents are ready etc so my question is from experience how long does it normally take to get your documents back?

I will be glad to post my outcome as soon as I have my passport in hand!

Thank you!

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Damax » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:11 pm

I have following objections on my brother's case. I am the sponsor and it was second time.
Biomatrics on 28th January
Decesion date 11th February

How to address this point? espacially last part of this statement

You are claiming that you are dependent upon your EEA Sponsor. As evidence of this you have received money transfer remittance from your sponsor naming you as the beneficiary. These are dated between January 2018 and January 2020. This limited amount of evidence in isolation does not prove that you are financially dependent on your sponsor or that any funds you have used to meet your essential living needs. You have not provided sufficient evidence regarding your own financial situation. Therefore, this department cannot sufficiently establish your dependency, either wholly or partially, upon your EEA sponsor because you are unable to establish your financial support from the EEA national to meet your essential needs.

This time this was new objection from ECO,

Furthermore, you have failed to provide sufficient evidence which proves that you reside in a property provided to you by your Sponsor and that you reside there with him. It is noted that the evidence you have provided is recent and that your Sponsor appears to have resided outside of Pakistan for a considerable amount of time. Therefore, I cannot be satisfied that you are part of your sponsor's household as claimed.

This time this was new objection too from ECO,

You state that your Sponsor sends you £ 200.00 per month. You have not provided sufficient information as to his own personal circumstances, for example, any immediate family who are dependent on him in xyz country, his financial responsibilities and commitments and his financial status. Furthermore, there is no evidence to suggest that your sponsor intends to stay in the UK upon arrival and continue to support you as required. On that basis, you do not meet the requirements of Regulation 8 (2) (b) and your application is refused. I therefore refuse your EEA Family Permit apPplication because | am not satisfied that you meet all the requirements of Regulation 12 (see ECGS EUN2.23) of the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016.

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Northern_Lights » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:26 am

Damax wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:11 pm
I have following objections on my brother's case. I am the sponsor and it was second time.
Biomatrics on 28th January
Decesion date 11th February

How to address this point? espacially last part of this statement

You are claiming that you are dependent upon your EEA Sponsor. As evidence of this you have received money transfer remittance from your sponsor naming you as the beneficiary. These are dated between January 2018 and January 2020. This limited amount of evidence in isolation does not prove that you are financially dependent on your sponsor or that any funds you have used to meet your essential living needs. You have not provided sufficient evidence regarding your own financial situation. Therefore, this department cannot sufficiently establish your dependency, either wholly or partially, upon your EEA sponsor because you are unable to establish your financial support from the EEA national to meet your essential needs.

This time this was new objection from ECO,

Furthermore, you have failed to provide sufficient evidence which proves that you reside in a property provided to you by your Sponsor and that you reside there with him. It is noted that the evidence you have provided is recent and that your Sponsor appears to have resided outside of Pakistan for a considerable amount of time. Therefore, I cannot be satisfied that you are part of your sponsor's household as claimed.

This time this was new objection too from ECO,

You state that your Sponsor sends you £ 200.00 per month. You have not provided sufficient information as to his own personal circumstances, for example, any immediate family who are dependent on him in xyz country, his financial responsibilities and commitments and his financial status. Furthermore, there is no evidence to suggest that your sponsor intends to stay in the UK upon arrival and continue to support you as required. On that basis, you do not meet the requirements of Regulation 8 (2) (b) and your application is refused. I therefore refuse your EEA Family Permit apPplication because | am not satisfied that you meet all the requirements of Regulation 12 (see ECGS EUN2.23) of the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016.
Hi Damax,

It seems you have applied on the basis that the Sponsor is residing in Pakistan with the dependent?

If this route wasn't already difficult, it is even more difficult to apply on the basis that the dependant is part of the sponsors "household" and that you both intend to migrate to the United Kingdom.

I would the think the amount of evidence required to prove the motive is considerable such as;

1.Deeds for the House or Tenancy Agreement in the Sponsors name

2. Considerable savings to establish travel costs to the UK aswell as setting up home, furniture and the possibility to survive without a job until you secure one.

3. Job offer in the UK

4. Dependants circumstances in Pakistan, including his income (from Sponsor and/or any other sources) and his expenditure.

They also note that some of the evidence you have seems to point that Sponsor has been living outside of Pakistan whilst you are claiming that he lives together with his brother there?

I don't think they have a valid point in terms of Money Transfers not being enough as two years IS enough.

I would suggest you have until the end of this Year(2020) for the Sponsor to establish himself in the UK, continue to send money to dependent, get a job with income of more than £1300 per month net, do not claim benefits etc.

Make sure you send money from your account and into his account using a remittance company such as Transferwise or PayPal etc.

Hope this helps

All the Best

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Tiktok » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:04 pm

Northern_Lights wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:26 am
Damax wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:11 pm
I have following objections on my brother's case. I am the sponsor and it was second time.
Biomatrics on 28th January
Decesion date 11th February

How to address this point? espacially last part of this statement

You are claiming that you are dependent upon your EEA Sponsor. As evidence of this you have received money transfer remittance from your sponsor naming you as the beneficiary. These are dated between January 2018 and January 2020. This limited amount of evidence in isolation does not prove that you are financially dependent on your sponsor or that any funds you have used to meet your essential living needs. You have not provided sufficient evidence regarding your own financial situation. Therefore, this department cannot sufficiently establish your dependency, either wholly or partially, upon your EEA sponsor because you are unable to establish your financial support from the EEA national to meet your essential needs.

This time this was new objection from ECO,

Furthermore, you have failed to provide sufficient evidence which proves that you reside in a property provided to you by your Sponsor and that you reside there with him. It is noted that the evidence you have provided is recent and that your Sponsor appears to have resided outside of Pakistan for a considerable amount of time. Therefore, I cannot be satisfied that you are part of your sponsor's household as claimed.

This time this was new objection too from ECO,

You state that your Sponsor sends you £ 200.00 per month. You have not provided sufficient information as to his own personal circumstances, for example, any immediate family who are dependent on him in xyz country, his financial responsibilities and commitments and his financial status. Furthermore, there is no evidence to suggest that your sponsor intends to stay in the UK upon arrival and continue to support you as required. On that basis, you do not meet the requirements of Regulation 8 (2) (b) and your application is refused. I therefore refuse your EEA Family Permit apPplication because | am not satisfied that you meet all the requirements of Regulation 12 (see ECGS EUN2.23) of the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016.
Hi Damax,

It seems you have applied on the basis that the Sponsor is residing in Pakistan with the dependent?

If this route wasn't already difficult, it is even more difficult to apply on the basis that the dependant is part of the sponsors "household" and that you both intend to migrate to the United Kingdom.

I would the think the amount of evidence required to prove the motive is considerable such as;

1.Deeds for the House or Tenancy Agreement in the Sponsors name

2. Considerable savings to establish travel costs to the UK aswell as setting up home, furniture and the possibility to survive without a job until you secure one.

3. Job offer in the UK

4. Dependants circumstances in Pakistan, including his income (from Sponsor and/or any other sources) and his expenditure.

They also note that some of the evidence you have seems to point that Sponsor has been living outside of Pakistan whilst you are claiming that he lives together with his brother there?

I don't think they have a valid point in terms of Money Transfers not being enough as two years IS enough.

I would suggest you have until the end of this Year(2020) for the Sponsor to establish himself in the UK, continue to send money to dependent, get a job with income of more than £1300 per month net, do not claim benefits etc.

Make sure you send money from your account and into his account using a remittance company such as Transferwise or PayPal etc.

Hope this helps

All the Best



Nothern light

I went for an appeal

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by kwell » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:06 pm

Damax wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:11 pm
I have following objections on my brother's case. I am the sponsor and it was second time.
Biomatrics on 28th January
Decesion date 11th February

How to address this point? espacially last part of this statement

You are claiming that you are dependent upon your EEA Sponsor. As evidence of this you have received money transfer remittance from your sponsor naming you as the beneficiary. These are dated between January 2018 and January 2020. This limited amount of evidence in isolation does not prove that you are financially dependent on your sponsor or that any funds you have used to meet your essential living needs. You have not provided sufficient evidence regarding your own financial situation. Therefore, this department cannot sufficiently establish your dependency, either wholly or partially, upon your EEA sponsor because you are unable to establish your financial support from the EEA national to meet your essential needs.

This time this was new objection from ECO,

Furthermore, you have failed to provide sufficient evidence which proves that you reside in a property provided to you by your Sponsor and that you reside there with him. It is noted that the evidence you have provided is recent and that your Sponsor appears to have resided outside of Pakistan for a considerable amount of time. Therefore, I cannot be satisfied that you are part of your sponsor's household as claimed.

This time this was new objection too from ECO,

You state that your Sponsor sends you £ 200.00 per month. You have not provided sufficient information as to his own personal circumstances, for example, any immediate family who are dependent on him in xyz country, his financial responsibilities and commitments and his financial status. Furthermore, there is no evidence to suggest that your sponsor intends to stay in the UK upon arrival and continue to support you as required. On that basis, you do not meet the requirements of Regulation 8 (2) (b) and your application is refused. I therefore refuse your EEA Family Permit apPplication because | am not satisfied that you meet all the requirements of Regulation 12 (see ECGS EUN2.23) of the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016.


This is serious. I received the same reasons as basis for refusal. Same choice if words. I’m beginning to think this is generic. They just fix in different names and change the amounts.

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Northern_Lights » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:54 pm

Tiktok wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:04 pm
Northern_Lights wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:26 am
Damax wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:11 pm
I have following objections on my brother's case. I am the sponsor and it was second time.
Biomatrics on 28th January
Decesion date 11th February

How to address this point? espacially last part of this statement

You are claiming that you are dependent upon your EEA Sponsor. As evidence of this you have received money transfer remittance from your sponsor naming you as the beneficiary. These are dated between January 2018 and January 2020. This limited amount of evidence in isolation does not prove that you are financially dependent on your sponsor or that any funds you have used to meet your essential living needs. You have not provided sufficient evidence regarding your own financial situation. Therefore, this department cannot sufficiently establish your dependency, either wholly or partially, upon your EEA sponsor because you are unable to establish your financial support from the EEA national to meet your essential needs.

This time this was new objection from ECO,

Furthermore, you have failed to provide sufficient evidence which proves that you reside in a property provided to you by your Sponsor and that you reside there with him. It is noted that the evidence you have provided is recent and that your Sponsor appears to have resided outside of Pakistan for a considerable amount of time. Therefore, I cannot be satisfied that you are part of your sponsor's household as claimed.

This time this was new objection too from ECO,

You state that your Sponsor sends you £ 200.00 per month. You have not provided sufficient information as to his own personal circumstances, for example, any immediate family who are dependent on him in xyz country, his financial responsibilities and commitments and his financial status. Furthermore, there is no evidence to suggest that your sponsor intends to stay in the UK upon arrival and continue to support you as required. On that basis, you do not meet the requirements of Regulation 8 (2) (b) and your application is refused. I therefore refuse your EEA Family Permit apPplication because | am not satisfied that you meet all the requirements of Regulation 12 (see ECGS EUN2.23) of the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016.
Hi Damax,

It seems you have applied on the basis that the Sponsor is residing in Pakistan with the dependent?

If this route wasn't already difficult, it is even more difficult to apply on the basis that the dependant is part of the sponsors "household" and that you both intend to migrate to the United Kingdom.

I would the think the amount of evidence required to prove the motive is considerable such as;

1.Deeds for the House or Tenancy Agreement in the Sponsors name

2. Considerable savings to establish travel costs to the UK aswell as setting up home, furniture and the possibility to survive without a job until you secure one.

3. Job offer in the UK

4. Dependants circumstances in Pakistan, including his income (from Sponsor and/or any other sources) and his expenditure.

They also note that some of the evidence you have seems to point that Sponsor has been living outside of Pakistan whilst you are claiming that he lives together with his brother there?

I don't think they have a valid point in terms of Money Transfers not being enough as two years IS enough.

I would suggest you have until the end of this Year(2020) for the Sponsor to establish himself in the UK, continue to send money to dependent, get a job with income of more than £1300 per month net, do not claim benefits etc.

Make sure you send money from your account and into his account using a remittance company such as Transferwise or PayPal etc.

Hope this helps

All the Best



Nothern light

I went for an appeal
Hi TikTok,

Have you appealed and made another Application at the same time or just appeal?

Are you filing the Appeal yourself or through a Solicitor?

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Tiktok » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:07 pm

Northern_Lights wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:54 pm
Tiktok wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:04 pm
Northern_Lights wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:26 am
Damax wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:11 pm
I have following objections on my brother's case. I am the sponsor and it was second time.
Biomatrics on 28th January
Decesion date 11th February

How to address this point? espacially last part of this statement

You are claiming that you are dependent upon your EEA Sponsor. As evidence of this you have received money transfer remittance from your sponsor naming you as the beneficiary. These are dated between January 2018 and January 2020. This limited amount of evidence in isolation does not prove that you are financially dependent on your sponsor or that any funds you have used to meet your essential living needs. You have not provided sufficient evidence regarding your own financial situation. Therefore, this department cannot sufficiently establish your dependency, either wholly or partially, upon your EEA sponsor because you are unable to establish your financial support from the EEA national to meet your essential needs.

This time this was new objection from ECO,

Furthermore, you have failed to provide sufficient evidence which proves that you reside in a property provided to you by your Sponsor and that you reside there with him. It is noted that the evidence you have provided is recent and that your Sponsor appears to have resided outside of Pakistan for a considerable amount of time. Therefore, I cannot be satisfied that you are part of your sponsor's household as claimed.

This time this was new objection too from ECO,

You state that your Sponsor sends you £ 200.00 per month. You have not provided sufficient information as to his own personal circumstances, for example, any immediate family who are dependent on him in xyz country, his financial responsibilities and commitments and his financial status. Furthermore, there is no evidence to suggest that your sponsor intends to stay in the UK upon arrival and continue to support you as required. On that basis, you do not meet the requirements of Regulation 8 (2) (b) and your application is refused. I therefore refuse your EEA Family Permit apPplication because | am not satisfied that you meet all the requirements of Regulation 12 (see ECGS EUN2.23) of the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016.
Hi Damax,

It seems you have applied on the basis that the Sponsor is residing in Pakistan with the dependent?

If this route wasn't already difficult, it is even more difficult to apply on the basis that the dependant is part of the sponsors "household" and that you both intend to migrate to the United Kingdom.

I would the think the amount of evidence required to prove the motive is considerable such as;

1.Deeds for the House or Tenancy Agreement in the Sponsors name

2. Considerable savings to establish travel costs to the UK aswell as setting up home, furniture and the possibility to survive without a job until you secure one.

3. Job offer in the UK

4. Dependants circumstances in Pakistan, including his income (from Sponsor and/or any other sources) and his expenditure.

They also note that some of the evidence you have seems to point that Sponsor has been living outside of Pakistan whilst you are claiming that he lives together with his brother there?

I don't think they have a valid point in terms of Money Transfers not being enough as two years IS enough.

I would suggest you have until the end of this Year(2020) for the Sponsor to establish himself in the UK, continue to send money to dependent, get a job with income of more than £1300 per month net, do not claim benefits etc.

Make sure you send money from your account and into his account using a remittance company such as Transferwise or PayPal etc.

Hope this helps

All the Best



Nothern light

I went for an appeal
Hi TikTok,

Have you appealed and made another Application at the same time or just appeal?

Are you filing the Appeal yourself or through a Solicitor?



Hi brother I'm just appeal I spoke to many solicitor and they said they can overturn the decision as the home office made mistake on my decision they should say my wife she's claiming benefits working tax credit and child tax I think everyone claims that and she's mother of 14 months old baby what they expect and there's no minimum or maximum income under the eea regulation she's just need to be existing the threaty rights and they said my sister in law she will come here and claim benefit too
So I decided to appeal so will cost me about 2500 the full proces

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by tata123 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:18 pm

for the appeal, where the actual court hearing will take place, In UK or applicant home country?

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by Tiktok » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:30 pm

tata123 wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:18 pm
for the appeal, where the actual court hearing will take place, In UK or applicant home country?




Hi there

The appeal will take place in the uk

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Re: Sheffield Visa Section - EEA FAMILY PERMIT

Post by tata123 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:09 am

good luck hopefully they will overturn their decision.
WHen are you expecting to get the date from court?

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