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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by JAMAA » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:32 pm

JAMAA wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:50 am
ٍSurinder singh applications for Settled status (ILR now) can apply through mobile app EU EXIT ID documents Check app.
sorry guys i was wrong surinder singh needs papers application form not online.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by ellyell » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:17 am

ellyell wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:28 am
PLUZZ wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:28 am
ellyell wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:29 pm
It has been 10 working days since I requested paper form and still have not received it. I have called resolution center this afternoon and the lady i talked to advised me to wait until Monday afternoon and call back again if still not arrived.
Problem is that it is not possible to talk those guys who deal with Surinder Sing cases/paper application process. I asked her if she is able to see if the form has been sent if not when it will be sent but she could not see this and could not advise.

Absolute nightmare, what can I say.
Same here too. I spoke to the resolution centre several times this week and it was all a waste of effort. At one time, I was told that my request has been escalated to their quality management team, and that someone from the management team would call me back within 2 working days. But alas, no call back! I then rang again, and demanded to speak to someone within the Surinder Singh team. I was passed to a guy who introduced himself as one of the quality management staff within the Surinder Singh team. The guy took my details and put me on hold to check my details, and then came back to advise that nothing has been sent out to me, and that he couldn't advise a time-frame when the form would be received. I asked why so much fuss over an ordinary form, and he explained that the team need to check and make sure that each person who requested paper application form is eligible to apply in the surinder singh category, hence why it is taking so long to send out the form to each requester. I believe the excuse provided by the guy is bullshit, and I found it unfathomable. My request for the paper application form was around 9.30am on 30th January when the scheme fully opened and I am sure I must have been one of the first 10 people who requested the form. Even staff from the resolution centre confirmed that I am among the first few people to have requested the form as soon as the scheme opened to the public. If therefore I am among the first 10 people to have requested the form, are you telling me that the surinder singh team have not been able to ascertain the eligibility of those first 10 people from their records within 2 weeks of the scheme opening? Even if they only have 2 members of staff dealing with applications in that team, they should have done all necessary checks on more than 10 people by now since the opening of the scheme!
Personally, I believe there is a hideous reason for this whole delay for surinder singhers.....there is definitely something the home office is not telling us. Firstly, guidance released towards the end of the piloting phases specifically mentioned that all categories, including surinder singhers will be able to submit their applications through the infamous online process. The only exception to this will be Zambrano cases, where a paper application is required and the scheme is not open to them till 1st May. There was nowhere in that initial guidance where it was mentioned that surinder singhers will also need to apply using a paper form. Then came the time when the scheme fully opened, look whats happened.......alas, even the paper application forms are not yet available after 2 weeks since the scheme started! I am inclined to believe this is a delay tactic on purpose, designed to exclude surinder singhers from the process, although whatever the motivation for it, I am not sure. I find it particularly out of character for a government body of such high repute as the Home Office, to promise applicants that an application form will be recieved wihin 10 working days, and then fail on that promise! Something just doesn't add up!
I requested the form on 31st Mar. And first they told me I will receive it in 2-3 working days! After that 10 working days and now they say
"We are currently experiencing a high demand for paper application requests, therefore please allow a further 10 working days for receipt." "
Well I requested this form hours after scheme was fully open. Why cannot they send a form in 10 days and now they give a 1 month time? and i do not really believe they will do it in next 10 days.
I do not know what we can do about it, if anybody has any idea please let me know. I have already sent a complaint email to Home Office and considering to send an email to my MP now.
Called resolution center (AGAIN) last night and demanded to talk to someone from Surinder Singh cases team. After waiting for 5-10 min, they managed to connect me to a team leader. She apologized many times for the delay and basically what she said is that form is not ready yet. She said we are still waiting for the team to finalize the details and they have not started to send the forms yet. She said they do not want to advise a deadline and not to meet that again but she said she is hopeful that the form will be finalized by end of this week (Well then Easter Holiday obviously) Looks like we will wait another 2 weeks (at least)

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by ellyell » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:06 am

ellyell wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:17 am
ellyell wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:28 am
PLUZZ wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:28 am
ellyell wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:29 pm
It has been 10 working days since I requested paper form and still have not received it. I have called resolution center this afternoon and the lady i talked to advised me to wait until Monday afternoon and call back again if still not arrived.
Problem is that it is not possible to talk those guys who deal with Surinder Sing cases/paper application process. I asked her if she is able to see if the form has been sent if not when it will be sent but she could not see this and could not advise.

Absolute nightmare, what can I say.
Same here too. I spoke to the resolution centre several times this week and it was all a waste of effort. At one time, I was told that my request has been escalated to their quality management team, and that someone from the management team would call me back within 2 working days. But alas, no call back! I then rang again, and demanded to speak to someone within the Surinder Singh team. I was passed to a guy who introduced himself as one of the quality management staff within the Surinder Singh team. The guy took my details and put me on hold to check my details, and then came back to advise that nothing has been sent out to me, and that he couldn't advise a time-frame when the form would be received. I asked why so much fuss over an ordinary form, and he explained that the team need to check and make sure that each person who requested paper application form is eligible to apply in the surinder singh category, hence why it is taking so long to send out the form to each requester. I believe the excuse provided by the guy is bullshit, and I found it unfathomable. My request for the paper application form was around 9.30am on 30th January when the scheme fully opened and I am sure I must have been one of the first 10 people who requested the form. Even staff from the resolution centre confirmed that I am among the first few people to have requested the form as soon as the scheme opened to the public. If therefore I am among the first 10 people to have requested the form, are you telling me that the surinder singh team have not been able to ascertain the eligibility of those first 10 people from their records within 2 weeks of the scheme opening? Even if they only have 2 members of staff dealing with applications in that team, they should have done all necessary checks on more than 10 people by now since the opening of the scheme!
Personally, I believe there is a hideous reason for this whole delay for surinder singhers.....there is definitely something the home office is not telling us. Firstly, guidance released towards the end of the piloting phases specifically mentioned that all categories, including surinder singhers will be able to submit their applications through the infamous online process. The only exception to this will be Zambrano cases, where a paper application is required and the scheme is not open to them till 1st May. There was nowhere in that initial guidance where it was mentioned that surinder singhers will also need to apply using a paper form. Then came the time when the scheme fully opened, look whats happened.......alas, even the paper application forms are not yet available after 2 weeks since the scheme started! I am inclined to believe this is a delay tactic on purpose, designed to exclude surinder singhers from the process, although whatever the motivation for it, I am not sure. I find it particularly out of character for a government body of such high repute as the Home Office, to promise applicants that an application form will be recieved wihin 10 working days, and then fail on that promise! Something just doesn't add up!
I requested the form on 31st Mar. And first they told me I will receive it in 2-3 working days! After that 10 working days and now they say
"We are currently experiencing a high demand for paper application requests, therefore please allow a further 10 working days for receipt." "
Well I requested this form hours after scheme was fully open. Why cannot they send a form in 10 days and now they give a 1 month time? and i do not really believe they will do it in next 10 days.
I do not know what we can do about it, if anybody has any idea please let me know. I have already sent a complaint email to Home Office and considering to send an email to my MP now.
Called resolution center (AGAIN) last night and demanded to talk to someone from Surinder Singh cases team. After waiting for 5-10 min, they managed to connect me to a team leader. She apologized many times for the delay and basically what she said is that form is not ready yet. She said we are still waiting for the team to finalize the details and they have not started to send the forms yet. She said they do not want to advise a deadline and not to meet that again but she said she is hopeful that the form will be finalized by end of this week (Well then Easter Holiday obviously) Looks like we will wait another 2 weeks (at least)
Resolution Center called me last night. And guess what they said!?
Further delay and another 10 working days from today (18th April) to receive the form.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by apc2012 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:47 am

Apparently, the forms are finally being sent out as of last week. Has anyone received one yet? If so, can you please let us know what they are asking for as far as documents?

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by ellyell » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:03 am

apc2012 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:47 am
Apparently, the forms are finally being sent out as of last week. Has anyone received one yet? If so, can you please let us know what they are asking for as far as documents?
Hi, I do not think this is correct. I received a call from resolution center on 17th April. Team leader I spoke advised me that it will take another 10 days for them to finalize the paper form and guidelines. Means they will not start sending them out another 10 working days, starting from 18th April.

Have you received this feedback from Resolution Center?

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by apc2012 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:17 am

Yes, I called the resolution centre and they confirmed that forms began to be sent out at the end of last week. Hope that's true as it's now been 3 weeks since the scheme opened.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by ellyell » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:42 am

apc2012 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:17 am
Yes, I called the resolution centre and they confirmed that forms began to be sent out at the end of last week. Hope that's true as it's now been 3 weeks since the scheme opened.
Again, inconsistent information from Resolution Center.
I will call them today, lets see if I receive same feedback.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by ellyell » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:03 pm

ellyell wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:42 am
apc2012 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:17 am
Yes, I called the resolution centre and they confirmed that forms began to be sent out at the end of last week. Hope that's true as it's now been 3 weeks since the scheme opened.
Again, inconsistent information from Resolution Center.
I will call them today, lets see if I receive same feedback.
Resolution Center have just called me and said form will be send out to my address tomorrow. And I should receive it in 3 days. I will update once I receive it

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by apc2012 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:38 pm

Did they call you or did you request them to call you back? i am wondering if you get a call before application is sent.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by ellyell » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:54 pm

apc2012 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:38 pm
Did they call you or did you request them to call you back? i am wondering if you get a call before application is sent.
They called me to give an update and let me know the form will be sent tomorrow.

I requested the form on 31st Mar and called them few times to ask about the status of the paper form in last 3 weeks. They took my details about 10 days ago when I called and told me they would call me back when they have an update.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by markgbr » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:36 pm

First sight of the application form? You might need to be registered on Twitter to see it.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by NatCam » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:59 am

61 pages long. Wow.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by ellyell » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:05 am

NatCam wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:59 am
61 pages long. Wow.
unfortunately not able to see as I am not on twitter

can you see the details, i am wondering if they are again asking to prove center of life topic?

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by NatCam » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:13 am

No, I can't. It is just a photo of a front page. Let me see if I can copy-paste.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by ellyell » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:27 am

NatCam wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:13 am
No, I can't. It is just a photo of a front page. Let me see if I can copy-paste.
61 pages sounds as painful as previous form :(

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by NatCam » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:48 am

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by NatCam » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:53 am

ellyell wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:27 am
NatCam wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:13 am
No, I can't. It is just a photo of a front page. Let me see if I can copy-paste.
61 pages sounds as painful as previous form :(
Yes, but it's for both pre- and settled status. It will be personilized with your name, date of birth etc.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by MrSlyFox » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:54 am

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by NatCam » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:02 am

Thanks.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by ellyell » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:58 am

Thank you

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by markgbr » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:23 am

ellyell wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:05 am
NatCam wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:59 am
61 pages long. Wow.
unfortunately not able to see as I am not on twitter

can you see the details, i am wondering if they are again asking to prove center of life topic?
As you need to meet the EEA Regulations 2016 Regulation 9 (1) to (6) I guess you will need to prove you have moved your centre of life unless transitional arrangements apply.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by ellyell » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:38 am

markgbr wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:23 am
ellyell wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:05 am
NatCam wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:59 am
61 pages long. Wow.
unfortunately not able to see as I am not on twitter

can you see the details, i am wondering if they are again asking to prove center of life topic?
As you need to meet the EEA Regulations 2016 Regulation 9 (1) to (6) I guess you will need to prove you have moved your centre of life unless transitional arrangements apply.
I will apply for settled status. I already provided this information when I applied for residence card back in 2014. They were asking to prove it again with previous EEA PR form. I guess it will be same for this one as well.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by markgbr » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:50 pm

Yes, I think that is correct.

I believe that transitional arrangements apply to anyone issued with EEA documentation before 1st January 2014.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by mkhan2525 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:47 pm

The front of the form does state to complete the sections of the form that applies to you. It may be the case that only those people will be asked to provide centre of life info who have not previously been issued a residence card.

Since the centre of life requirement is not lawful in EU, they may remove it from the form like the requirement to be a qualified person on return to UK. If this is not the case then SS applicants will not be treated equally to EU nationals and their family members when applying for status under the scheme.

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Re: Surinder Singh Settled Status Paper Application:

Post by spat » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:52 am

MrSlyFox wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:54 am
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Hi,

Is it possible to upload full form please? To alllow others to understand information required for the application please

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