Timeline for Right of Retention! !

JUSTINYK · Post by **JUSTINYK** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:52 pm

First of all ,
I’m very thankful for this forum and particularly OBIE if I can mention which helped a lot for all my applications ( FP , EEA2 and now RC )

Application sent 04/02
Email 13/02
Letter COA 18/02
Biometric 10/02
RC received 22/03

At the date of application I was over 5years here . In my application I proved that my spouse have the permanent right to reside in UK and permanent residence unit was dealing with my case .
However , in my card it states ( until 2024 and EU family member ) so I guess it’s another 5 years : )

Thiva · Post by **Thiva** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:51 am

Hello Guys..i need your help please. I'm so stressed at the moment. my case is,

I applied for retained right of residence and got refused. there are 2 reasons on the refusal

1. HAVEN'T SUBMITTED A VALID PASSPORT.
my solicitor clearly stated on the covering letter that my current passport has expired and applied for a new passport (attached all the invoices issued from the embassy for passport renewal)

2. NO ENOUGH EVIDENCE OF TREATY RIGHTS OF THE SPONSOR (MY WIFE)
I have submitted all the pay slips of my wife during the period of the divorce process till the date of dicree absolute made.

and the appeal right is given.

according to my lawyer she says the home office should have requested the new passport giving a reference number for the passport submission and they haven't. also she mentioned on the covering letter requesting Home Office to check HMRC my wife's employee details if needed. but Home Office refused my application without even contacting HMRC

so my question is, do you guys think the appeal is winnable or should i make a fresh application with more evidence and my new passport which i couldn't submit earlier. Please give your opinions. I highly appreciate
Many Thanks

Romy88 · Post by **Romy88** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:02 am

Well, I do not think that without YOUR valid identity they will accept your application. In some cases they can accept no ex-spouse ID but not form the main applicant. I would rather wait for renewal of your passport and then apply for Settled/ Presettled status online under retained rights category.

draco18 · Post by **draco18** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:01 pm

Application for RoR sent: 15-03-2019
Payments taken: 19-03-2019
Biometric submitted: 25-03-2019
COA: .....
BRP: .....

Thiva · Post by **Thiva** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:34 am

@Romy88, Thanks for the reply.once i submitted the application i already received my new passport while my application is under consideration.on the covering letter my lawyer mentioned that my passport is being renewed.the point is HO didn't contact us back requesting my new passport. according to my lawyer she says
normally HO do contact us back requesting supporting documents with a reference number where it should be sent to. my lawyer says we can challenge this dissection made by Home Office.

Romy88 · Post by **Romy88** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:44 am

Thiva wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:34 am
@Romy88, Thanks for the reply.once i submitted the application i already received my new passport while my application is under consideration.on the covering letter my lawyer mentioned that my passport is being renewed.the point is HO didn't contact us back requesting my new passport. according to my lawyer she says
normally HO do contact us back requesting supporting documents with a reference number where it should be sent to. my lawyer says we can challenge this dissection made by Home Office.

To be honest, to avoid your application being rejected I would send your new passport to them ASAP by giving them your case ID on envelope and explaining the situation in a covering letter. Do not wait untin HO rejects your application on the ground that you did not provide your valid identity document as it may take up to two months.

Thiva · Post by **Thiva** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:21 am

Romy88 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:44 am

Thiva wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:34 am
@Romy88, Thanks for the reply.once i submitted the application i already received my new passport while my application is under consideration.on the covering letter my lawyer mentioned that my passport is being renewed.the point is HO didn't contact us back requesting my new passport. according to my lawyer she says
normally HO do contact us back requesting supporting documents with a reference number where it should be sent to. my lawyer says we can challenge this dissection made by Home Office.
To be honest, to avoid your application being rejected I would send your new passport to them ASAP by giving them your case ID on envelope and explaining the situation in a covering letter. Do not wait untin HO rejects your application on the ground that you did not provide your valid identity document as it may take up to two months.

HI Romy88, i think you haven't red my first post properly. they refused my application giving two reasons. 1. haven't submitted the passport 2.No enough evidence of my wife's treaty rights. and the right of appeal is given. i just want to know is this appeal winnable? or better to do another fresh application. thanks

JohnDee · Post by **JohnDee** » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:42 am

Thiva wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:21 am

Romy88 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:44 am

Thiva wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:34 am
@Romy88, Thanks for the reply.once i submitted the application i already received my new passport while my application is under consideration.on the covering letter my lawyer mentioned that my passport is being renewed.the point is HO didn't contact us back requesting my new passport. according to my lawyer she says
normally HO do contact us back requesting supporting documents with a reference number where it should be sent to. my lawyer says we can challenge this dissection made by Home Office.
To be honest, to avoid your application being rejected I would send your new passport to them ASAP by giving them your case ID on envelope and explaining the situation in a covering letter. Do not wait untin HO rejects your application on the ground that you did not provide your valid identity document as it may take up to two months.
HI Romy88, i think you haven't red my first post properly. they refused my application giving two reasons. 1. haven't submitted the passport 2.No enough evidence of my wife's treaty rights. and the right of appeal is given. i just want to know is this appeal winnable? or better to do another fresh application. thanks

Seeing your situation i thought to give you a quick advice, mate simply call HMRC ask them to send 5yrs or whatever duration employment history you require being as your partner or ask her and that one page is valid and strong enough to show it all because it is from HMRC already, i only given one page no payslips no p45 and nothing more just a one page in my application and got my positive outcome within 2 weeks.

draco18 · Post by **draco18** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:02 pm

Updated Timeline:

Application for RoR sent: 15-03-2019
Payments taken: 19-03-2019
Biometric submitted: 25-03-2019
COA: 09/04/2019
BRP: .....

dellledd911 · Post by **dellledd911** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:46 pm

draco18 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:02 pm
Updated Timeline:

Application for RoR sent: 15-03-2019
Payments taken: 19-03-2019
Biometric submitted: 25-03-2019
COA: 09/04/2019
BRP: .....

Hi! Did you receive your BRP yet? whats happening with your situation right now?

draco18 · Post by **draco18** » Sun May 19, 2019 1:35 am

Unfortunately no fresh updates yet !
Just waiting !
I wish more members would share their updates timeline for ROR that would help a lot to know there are others out there !

skubidu123 · Post by **skubidu123** » Mon May 20, 2019 5:28 pm

Application for RoR sent: 21-03-2019
Payments taken: 23-03-2019
Biometric submitted: 02-04-2019
COA: 07-04-209
BRP: 29-04-2019
Docs received: 01-05-2019

draco18 · Post by **draco18** » Mon May 20, 2019 11:41 pm

skubidu123 wrote: ↑
Mon May 20, 2019 5:28 pm
Application for RoR sent: 21-03-2019
Payments taken: 23-03-2019
Biometric submitted: 02-04-2019
COA: 07-04-209
BRP: 29-04-2019
Docs received: 01-05-2019

Congratulations skubidu123 !
thanks for the update can you tell us a bit more about your case !

draco18 · Post by **draco18** » Mon May 27, 2019 6:42 pm

Updated Timeline:

Application for RoR sent: 15-03-2019
Payments taken: 19-03-2019
Biometric submitted: 25-03-2019
COA: 09/04/2019
passport requested : 22 /05 / 2019
Documents returned : 27 / 05 / 2019
BRP: .....??

Is it normal to have all the documents returned without any letter ? Got me a bit worried

draco18 · Post by **draco18** » Thu May 30, 2019 10:14 pm

Updated Timeline:

Application for RoR sent: 15-03-2019
Payments taken: 19-03-2019
Biometric submitted: 25-03-2019
COA: 09/04/2019
passport requested : 22 /05 / 2019
Documents returned : 27 / 05 / 2019
BRP: 30/05/2019

Lexy06 · Post by **Lexy06** » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:34 pm

Lexy06 wrote: ↑
Fri May 04, 2018 3:10 pm

jay.ho wrote: ↑
Wed May 02, 2018 10:51 pm
Lexy06 I applied first time in August 2017 which is refused because I didn't provide the id . Then I apply again in jan and provide my ex id ..

But when I apply for ROR I didn't provide the id and I ROR granted without id.

Regards jay.ho

Hi Jay.ho

Thanks for the response, it is highly useful! pls keep praying for the rest of us

Cheers
ROR Application Submitted without Ex-Spouse ID
Application submitted: 23/02/2018
H.O Application Acknowledgement Email Received: 06/03/2018
Biometric Letter Received: 07/03/2018 Dated 05/03/2018
Biometric Done: 07/03/2018
COA Letter Received: 15/03/2018 Dated 13/03/2018
Documents Received Back With Refusal Letter (No Ex's ID): Received 19/05/2018 Dated17/05/2018
Notice of Appeal Sent to First Tier Tribunal: 23/05/2018
Bundle Submission Deadline For Appellant and Respondent (H.O) 18/07/2018
Respondent (H.O) Bundle Submission: 17/11/2018
First Tier Judge Decision: 28/02/2019
H.O Sent ROR Residence Card in accordance to FTT judge's decision: 12/03/2019 (BRP Card Received)

funmiparded · Post by **funmiparded** » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:41 pm

UK VISIT - MAY 2013
MARRIED EEA NATIONAL - JULY 2014
DIVORCE PROCESS BEGIN - MARCH 2018
DECREE ABSOLUTE - APRIL 2019
Application sent by post : 25/04/2019
Application received: 29/04/2019
Payment taken by card: 30/04/2019
Bio-metric Letter Dated by HO: 2/05/2019 & Received: 10/05/2019
Bio-metric Done: 10/05/2019
COA(Cert of Application) letter issued: 14/05/2019 & Received: 17/05/2019
Documents received: XXXXXXX
NON EEA Permanent/ RETAIN resident card issued: XXXXX

Question is,
Cos I have lived in UK more than 5 years,
1. What status do I get
2. What is the processing time?

Rehman87 · Post by **Rehman87** » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:30 pm

pplication for ROR

Application sent —-24/01/2019

HO received application —- 25/01/2019

Fee taken —- Postal orders

Biometric Done —— 12/02/2019
COA:- 20/02/2019
BRP Received:- 24/07/2019. Best of luck who is waiting.

Valeriya001 · Post by **Valeriya001** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:24 pm

Hello everyone.

I am in a process of waiting for my decree nisi and just started contacting the immigration lawyers in relation to my application for a ROR.
I wanted to ask if someone could recommend the lawyer to help them out with application. Currently the cheapest rate I have got was £3.5k plus VAT.
Additionally, if you could advise if someone applied themselves and the application was approved.
I am really stressed out because of it as i do not want to lose my job here in the UK.
Thank you

Post by **Casa** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:49 pm

Valeriya001 wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:24 pm
Hello everyone.

I am in a process of waiting for my decree nisi and just started contacting the immigration lawyers in relation to my application for a ROR.
I wanted to ask if someone could recommend the lawyer to help them out with application. Currently the cheapest rate I have got was £3.5k plus VAT.
Additionally, if you could advise if someone applied themselves and the application was approved.
I am really stressed out because of it as i do not want to lose my job here in the UK.
Thank you

Under the Board Ts&Cs, members are not permitted to post recommendations on the open forum .

Romy88 · Post by **Romy88** » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:17 pm

Valeriya001 wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:24 pm
Hello everyone.

I am in a process of waiting for my decree nisi and just started contacting the immigration lawyers in relation to my application for a ROR.
I wanted to ask if someone could recommend the lawyer to help them out with application. Currently the cheapest rate I have got was £3.5k plus VAT.
Additionally, if you could advise if someone applied themselves and the application was approved.
I am really stressed out because of it as i do not want to lose my job here in the UK.
Thank you

Do not waste money on a solicitor. Apply for Settlement Scheme directly.

Valeriya001 · Post by **Valeriya001** » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:50 am

Romy88 wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:17 pm

Valeriya001 wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:24 pm
Hello everyone.

I am in a process of waiting for my decree nisi and just started contacting the immigration lawyers in relation to my application for a ROR.
I wanted to ask if someone could recommend the lawyer to help them out with application. Currently the cheapest rate I have got was £3.5k plus VAT.
Additionally, if you could advise if someone applied themselves and the application was approved.
I am really stressed out because of it as i do not want to lose my job here in the UK.
Thank you

Do not waste money on a solicitor. Apply for Settlement Scheme directly.

I do not have 5 years just yet. I was thinking to apply for pre-settled right however as far as i understood after decree absolute i still will have to apply for ROR. is that correct?

Romy88 · Post by **Romy88** » Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:40 am

I do not have 5 years just yet. - I will get pre-settled status then.

You can apply under category ROR if you lived with your EU spouse at least 1.5 years as married couple in the UK.

As do not have hold divorce paper, you can write covering letter and explain the situation that you are in process of divorce.

Do not waste your money, apply for settled/ pre-settled status online for free.

nikitinae · Post by **nikitinae** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:29 pm

Hi all!

Thank you so much for sharing your experiences, it is so so helpful!
Sorry this is stupid but how do I actually apply? Is it online? Where do I send the original docs? Thank you!

Orlando101 · Post by **Orlando101** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:53 pm

JohnDee wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:28 am
Hello guys, answer to all of you is below.

1) rubel rashid : mate as soon you get decree absolute you will need to apply for ROR no other option, within two months approx. Not doing so make you loose all rights and trouble starts.

2) val2018 : i only sent my employment history one page from HMRC covering last 3yrs and two latest pay slips.
For my parter same one page covering last 2yrs employment history from HMRC, SA302 tax returns for last 2yrs. original marriage and divorce certificate, one tenancy contract + address proof with many posts on both names, joint bank statement for 2yrs for same address, my personal bank statement to show salary coming in and for address proof, 100 pics together, My file was really small with few documents but strong ones.
PR you can only apply once 5yrs completed from the date of marriage.

My solicitor is expensive but really great 8 of my mates all got everything done by him and successful at the end. His covering letter was enough to make case easy to understand got it in first attempt without ID card of EU.. technically i paid for only covering letter as i had all except ID card. PM me for details if require.

3)berchuz : Yes its normal, even on mine its written same, as you were married with EU for 3 years you will be considered EU family member for your entire life, now as soon as you complete 5yrs from the date of marriage apply for PR its straight forward and easy.

Please in (2) you did mention that one can apply once 5yrs is completed from the date of Marriage, i got married April 2014, applied for visa and was issued Aug 2016 to run out 2021, now going through divorce in 2019 which i have litterally 5yrs in Marriage. Can i apply for PR after my Decree Absolute as been issued? please help

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