Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Chris90 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:44 pm

@ngoo,
Congratulations, your settlement scheme application will almost certainly be successful, Or the judges was wrong with your DRF1 appeal which cannot be accurate in law.

I think if you would feel like it Ngoo, post a summary of your the arguments you raised in your case.

I think this will help others to further understand the position they are in.

I hope as before, positive news flows here and all Zambrano carers can feel relaxed...


It's coming guys just remember, if you would feel like it, post a short summary of the arguments you raised... It's important other carers understand that the tribunal applies what the regulations say, not what home office wants..

Best wishes.

lolwe wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:21 pm

gee4 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:15 pm

lolwe wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:13 pm

gee4 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:10 pm

Yes that’s right. I have an appeal wit FtT and admin review. I am a little worried as to my faith after tomorrow but I put it all in God’s hand

Ok. Well, we can file the Group Litigation Order tomorrow, if you are ready. We are just missing the refusal letters and the statement of case. You also need to do the fee waiver.

I will get on it tomorrow. Thank you

You are welcome. As soon as you can, please submit the application.

I don't think you should wait for the statement of case and lulubaby's refusal letter. We can send it later.

Steps
1.) Complete the fee remission form - EX160
2.) Complete the N244 online. Choose Print. Save the form as a PDF.
3.) Email the N244 form, the draft order, your refusal letter and @netqueen's refusal letter to
i.f.a.taylorhouse@justice.gov.uk
Customer.Service@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
IAFT5@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
4.) Call them +44 (0)300 123 1711

They might not have heard of a Group Litigation Order(GLO). Tell them you want to file an application notice (N244) for a collective action. Hopefully, they should understand.

Thank you!

Chris90 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:40 am

Hi all,

To those preparing and waiting on appeal at the first tier tribunal. Where I have been in recent contact with home office litigation operations, I am able to say home office is asking the tribunal to LINK our Zambrano rights with the availablity of domestic immigration routes.

The fact that they are doing this proves 2 things..
1. You are indeed a Zambrano carer if you meet the requirements (otherwise they would have outright refused you by stating you do not meet the requirements) thiis explains the reliance on appendix FM to justify this. They are making attempts to appear they are not breaching the regulations.
2. The best defence home office has is to ask the tribunal to link our EU right with domestic. Home office has no legal tool to justify the approach they have taken.

As we already discussed, we must ask ourselves why some succeed while some don't. Could it be the arguments raised?
When you truly grasp the breach of law you will realise this amount to discrimination not just unlawful.

This definitely needs some media attention, and courageous individuals.

Ask yourself if Zambrano carers was not covered by the withdrawal agreement, why did home office brought Zambrano carers inline with the scheme (they had the obligations to do so) they was not being nice, otherwise we would not be here talking about this because our refusal letters would be different. (They would have followed through on that obligations they commit themselves to).

Home office could have stated all Zambrano carers must apply under appendix FM early on, just as they are saying now, why the change of positions? They had to respect the obligations EU placed on them.

How is the GLO going.

Ngoo wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:12 am

Hello everyone!

I got my BRC this morning and it stated that “The validity of this BRC has been limited to 30 June 2021 as the EU law right of residence which it evidences will fall away after this date. Should you wish to remain in the U.K. after 30 June 2021 you should apply to the EU Settlement Scheme if you have not done so already”. Best of luck everyone.

Ngoo wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:12 am

Hello everyone!

I got my BRC this morning and it stated that “The validity of this BRC has been limited to 30 June 2021 as the EU law right of residence which it evidences will fall away after this date. Should you wish to remain in the U.K. after 30 June 2021 you should apply to the EU Settlement Scheme if you have not done so already”. Best of luck everyone.

Fustrated2019 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:45 pm

Ngoo wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:12 am

Hello everyone!

I got my BRC this morning and it stated that “The validity of this BRC has been limited to 30 June 2021 as the EU law right of residence which it evidences will fall away after this date. Should you wish to remain in the U.K. after 30 June 2021 you should apply to the EU Settlement Scheme if you have not done so already”. Best of luck everyone.

Wow congratulations .

Catalley09 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:11 pm

Ngoo wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:12 am

Hello everyone!

I got my BRC this morning and it stated that “The validity of this BRC has been limited to 30 June 2021 as the EU law right of residence which it evidences will fall away after this date. Should you wish to remain in the U.K. after 30 June 2021 you should apply to the EU Settlement Scheme if you have not done so already”. Best of luck everyone.

Congratulations, you nearly there

I haven’t heard an answer from courts for my drf1 appeal but l have received Coa from euss so it’s a waiting game

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:38 pm

lolwe wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:21 pm

gee4 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:15 pm

lolwe wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:13 pm

Ok. Well, we can file the Group Litigation Order tomorrow, if you are ready. We are just missing the refusal letters and the statement of case. You also need to do the fee waiver.

I will get on it tomorrow. Thank you

You are welcome. As soon as you can, please submit the application.

I don't think you should wait for the statement of case and lulubaby's refusal letter. We can send it later.

Steps
1.) Complete the fee remission form - EX160
2.) Complete the N244 online. Choose Print. Save the form as a PDF.
3.) Email the N244 form, the draft order, your refusal letter and @netqueen's refusal letter to
i.f.a.taylorhouse@justice.gov.uk
Customer.Service@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
IAFT5@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
4.) Call them +44 (0)300 123 1711

They might not have heard of a Group Litigation Order(GLO). Tell them you want to file an application notice (N244) for a collective action. Hopefully, they should understand.

Thank you!

Hi all, I just called them and the staff politely told me that GLO can’t be done. She told me our cases can’t be linked under GLO unless we are from the same family. She told me even if somehow our appeal all get to be heard together, “YOU MUST PAY THE INDIVIDUAL FEES I’M AFRAID, SORRY”. Mhhhhh, I wished her a Happy New Year and ended the call.

I will call again tomorrow and rephrase my question.

Meanwhile I already called the tribunal earlier this afternoon and asked about GLO and was told it can only be done if we are a group and was refused the same day. Their example to me was like if we are a “group of migrants from ...., you apply together against your group refusal”.

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:27 pm

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:38 pm

lolwe wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:21 pm

gee4 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:15 pm

I will get on it tomorrow. Thank you

You are welcome. As soon as you can, please submit the application.

I don't think you should wait for the statement of case and lulubaby's refusal letter. We can send it later.

Steps
1.) Complete the fee remission form - EX160
2.) Complete the N244 online. Choose Print. Save the form as a PDF.
3.) Email the N244 form, the draft order, your refusal letter and @netqueen's refusal letter to
i.f.a.taylorhouse@justice.gov.uk
Customer.Service@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
IAFT5@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
4.) Call them +44 (0)300 123 1711

They might not have heard of a Group Litigation Order(GLO). Tell them you want to file an application notice (N244) for a collective action. Hopefully, they should understand.

Thank you!

Hi all, I just called them and the staff politely told me that GLO can’t be done. She told me our cases can’t be linked under GLO unless we are from the same family. She told me even if somehow our appeal all get to be heard together, “YOU MUST PAY THE INDIVIDUAL FEES I’M AFRAID, SORRY”. Mhhhhh, I wished her a Happy New Year and ended the call.

I will call again tomorrow and rephrase my question.

Meanwhile I already called the tribunal earlier this afternoon and asked about GLO and was told it can only be done if we are a group and was refused the same day. Their example to me was like if we are a “group of migrants from ...., you apply together against your group refusal”.

AHOY THERE HOME OFFICE!!!!!!

Hi all, I just called that same number again and asked them about APPLICATION NOTICE FORM N244, the staff said I called the wrong number and gave me the right number 03001235577.

I called them and BINGO!!!! the guy said it can be done.

PROCEDURE: (I should have written them down but was too excited to think fast).

Download the form on N244 form on direct.gov website.
Check how much the fee is for the application we are making.
Choose the court we will be sending the form to ( He said it has to be a court nearest to us as a group e.g. if in London for instance is it north, south, east, north west etc, you then scroll and check the court nearest to us).

Just to be very sure, I asked him again if we can use this form as a group of Zambrano carers who have received refusal decisions from the Home Office and want to go to court. He said yes, but in that case it has to be sent to Immigration and Asylum......

Honestly, I am so sorry all but I can't even remember what else he said again afterwards, my heart is just pounding very loud, I am shivering and my ears are buzzing.

Please can someone help me?. Can someone else who is calmer call with pen and paper and enquire from the new number?.

I am doing deep breaths therapy/ technique (whatever it is called), I will call them again tomorrow.

I feel so anxious and stressed. Oh please God, help me, please.....

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:27 pm

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:38 pm

lolwe wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:21 pm

gee4 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:15 pm

I will get on it tomorrow. Thank you

You are welcome. As soon as you can, please submit the application.

I don't think you should wait for the statement of case and lulubaby's refusal letter. We can send it later.

Steps
1.) Complete the fee remission form - EX160
2.) Complete the N244 online. Choose Print. Save the form as a PDF.
3.) Email the N244 form, the draft order, your refusal letter and @netqueen's refusal letter to
i.f.a.taylorhouse@justice.gov.uk
Customer.Service@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
IAFT5@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
4.) Call them +44 (0)300 123 1711

They might not have heard of a Group Litigation Order(GLO). Tell them you want to file an application notice (N244) for a collective action. Hopefully, they should understand.

Thank you!

Hi all, I just called them and the staff politely told me that GLO can’t be done. She told me our cases can’t be linked under GLO unless we are from the same family. She told me even if somehow our appeal all get to be heard together, “YOU MUST PAY THE INDIVIDUAL FEES I’M AFRAID, SORRY”. Mhhhhh, I wished her a Happy New Year and ended the call.

I will call again tomorrow and rephrase my question.

Meanwhile I already called the tribunal earlier this afternoon and asked about GLO and was told it can only be done if we are a group and was refused the same day. Their example to me was like if we are a “group of migrants from ...., you apply together against your group refusal”.

AHOY THERE HOME OFFICE!!!!!!

Hi all, I just called that same number again and asked them about APPLICATION NOTICE FORM N244, the staff said I called the wrong number and gave me the right number 03001235577.

I called them and BINGO!!!! the guy said it can be done.

PROCEDURE: (I should have written them down but was too excited to think fast).

Download the form on N244 form on direct.gov website.
Check how much the fee is for the application we are making.
Choose the court we will be sending the form to ( He said it has to be a court nearest to us as a group e.g. if in London for instance is it north, south, east, north west etc, you then scroll and check the court nearest to us).

Just to be very sure, I asked him again if we can use this form as a group of Zambrano carers who have received refusal decisions from the Home Office and want to go to court. He said yes, but in that case it has to be sent to Immigration and Asylum......

Honestly, I am so sorry all but I can't even remember what else he said again afterwards, my heart is just pounding very loud, I am shivering and my ears are buzzing.

Please can someone help me?. Can someone else who is calmer call with pen and paper and enquire from the new number?.

I am doing deep breaths therapy/ technique (whatever it is called), I will call them again tomorrow.

I feel so anxious and stressed. Oh please God, help me, please.....

Miss-Suz wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:31 am

Morning all,
Sorry for my silence. I have been very sick lately, been tested positive for COVID-19. I am recovering now.
How are you all doing?
Congratulations Ngoo!
And Lulubaby well done, just read that you called the Home Office. I’ll try to call them today aswell

Ngoo wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:38 pm

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:27 pm

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:38 pm

lolwe wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:21 pm

You are welcome. As soon as you can, please submit the application.

I don't think you should wait for the statement of case and lulubaby's refusal letter. We can send it later.

Steps
1.) Complete the fee remission form - EX160
2.) Complete the N244 online. Choose Print. Save the form as a PDF.
3.) Email the N244 form, the draft order, your refusal letter and @netqueen's refusal letter to
i.f.a.taylorhouse@justice.gov.uk
Customer.Service@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
IAFT5@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
4.) Call them +44 (0)300 123 1711

They might not have heard of a Group Litigation Order(GLO). Tell them you want to file an application notice (N244) for a collective action. Hopefully, they should understand.

Thank you!

Hi all, I just called them and the staff politely told me that GLO can’t be done. She told me our cases can’t be linked under GLO unless we are from the same family. She told me even if somehow our appeal all get to be heard together, “YOU MUST PAY THE INDIVIDUAL FEES I’M AFRAID, SORRY”. Mhhhhh, I wished her a Happy New Year and ended the call.

I will call again tomorrow and rephrase my question.

Meanwhile I already called the tribunal earlier this afternoon and asked about GLO and was told it can only be done if we are a group and was refused the same day. Their example to me was like if we are a “group of migrants from ...., you apply together against your group refusal”.

AHOY THERE HOME OFFICE!!!!!!

Hi all, I just called that same number again and asked them about APPLICATION NOTICE FORM N244, the staff said I called the wrong number and gave me the right number 03001235577.

I called them and BINGO!!!! the guy said it can be done.

PROCEDURE: (I should have written them down but was too excited to think fast).

Download the form on N244 form on direct.gov website.
Check how much the fee is for the application we are making.
Choose the court we will be sending the form to ( He said it has to be a court nearest to us as a group e.g. if in London for instance is it north, south, east, north west etc, you then scroll and check the court nearest to us).

Just to be very sure, I asked him again if we can use this form as a group of Zambrano carers who have received refusal decisions from the Home Office and want to go to court. He said yes, but in that case it has to be sent to Immigration and Asylum......

Honestly, I am so sorry all but I can't even remember what else he said again afterwards, my heart is just pounding very loud, I am shivering and my ears are buzzing.

Please can someone help me?. Can someone else who is calmer call with pen and paper and enquire from the new number?.

I am doing deep breaths therapy/ technique (whatever it is called), I will call them again tomorrow.

I feel so anxious and stressed. Oh please God, help me, please.....

@Lulubaby, God is faithful.I hope all goes well for you guys. It is a good idea for someone else to call, you can also give them a call first thing tomorrow morning. Get all the information that is required and set the ball rolling... Best of luck.

netqueen wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:04 pm

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:27 pm

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:38 pm

lolwe wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:21 pm

You are welcome. As soon as you can, please submit the application.

I don't think you should wait for the statement of case and lulubaby's refusal letter. We can send it later.

Steps
1.) Complete the fee remission form - EX160
2.) Complete the N244 online. Choose Print. Save the form as a PDF.
3.) Email the N244 form, the draft order, your refusal letter and @netqueen's refusal letter to
i.f.a.taylorhouse@justice.gov.uk
Customer.Service@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
IAFT5@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
4.) Call them +44 (0)300 123 1711

They might not have heard of a Group Litigation Order(GLO). Tell them you want to file an application notice (N244) for a collective action. Hopefully, they should understand.

Thank you!

Hi all, I just called them and the staff politely told me that GLO can’t be done. She told me our cases can’t be linked under GLO unless we are from the same family. She told me even if somehow our appeal all get to be heard together, “YOU MUST PAY THE INDIVIDUAL FEES I’M AFRAID, SORRY”. Mhhhhh, I wished her a Happy New Year and ended the call.

I will call again tomorrow and rephrase my question.

Meanwhile I already called the tribunal earlier this afternoon and asked about GLO and was told it can only be done if we are a group and was refused the same day. Their example to me was like if we are a “group of migrants from ...., you apply together against your group refusal”.

AHOY THERE HOME OFFICE!!!!!!

Hi all, I just called that same number again and asked them about APPLICATION NOTICE FORM N244, the staff said I called the wrong number and gave me the right number 03001235577.

I called them and BINGO!!!! the guy said it can be done.

PROCEDURE: (I should have written them down but was too excited to think fast).

Download the form on N244 form on direct.gov website.
Check how much the fee is for the application we are making.
Choose the court we will be sending the form to ( He said it has to be a court nearest to us as a group e.g. if in London for instance is it north, south, east, north west etc, you then scroll and check the court nearest to us).

Just to be very sure, I asked him again if we can use this form as a group of Zambrano carers who have received refusal decisions from the Home Office and want to go to court. He said yes, but in that case it has to be sent to Immigration and Asylum......

Honestly, I am so sorry all but I can't even remember what else he said again afterwards, my heart is just pounding very loud, I am shivering and my ears are buzzing.

Please can someone help me?. Can someone else who is calmer call with pen and paper and enquire from the new number?.

I am doing deep breaths therapy/ technique (whatever it is called), I will call them again tomorrow.

I feel so anxious and stressed. Oh please God, help me, please.....

LULUBABY, well done and good job. Thank you for the update. So the GLO can be done. When free on Monday will also call them and hope to get as much information as possible. We will succeed.

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:16 am

Miss-Suz wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:31 am

Morning all,
Sorry for my silence. I have been very sick lately, been tested positive for COVID-19. I am recovering now.
How are you all doing?
Congratulations Ngoo!
And Lulubaby well done, just read that you called the Home Office. I’ll try to call them today aswell

Please have enough rest and get well soon.

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:34 pm

Hi all, please is anyone else experiencing this?.

If I click on notifications to read a post, I get this reply:
"You are not authorised to read this forum."

Miss-Suz wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:31 am

Morning all,
Sorry for my silence. I have been very sick lately, been tested positive for COVID-19. I am recovering now.
How are you all doing?
Congratulations Ngoo!
And Lulubaby well done, just read that you called the Home Office. I’ll try to call them today aswell

Miss-Suz wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:31 am

Morning all,
Sorry for my silence. I have been very sick lately, been tested positive for COVID-19. I am recovering now.
How are you all doing?
Congratulations Ngoo!
And Lulubaby well done, just read that you called the Home Office. I’ll try to call them today aswell

Fustrated2019 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:39 pm

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:34 pm

Hi all, please is anyone else experiencing this?.

If I click on notifications to read a post, I get this reply:
"You are not authorised to read this forum."

Just tried it and it works fine for me .

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:06 am

Fustrated2019 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:39 pm

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:34 pm

Hi all, please is anyone else experiencing this?.

If I click on notifications to read a post, I get this reply:
"You are not authorised to read this forum."

Just tried it and it works fine for me .

Thanks for letting me know. The problem is with some posts I missed from last week. I got notifications and tried to read them but still can't read all.

I can't read the following posts: eilenxx Sat Jan 09,2021, 12.11pm, Chris90 Sat Jan 09,2021, 1.32pm, xxxxxxxx Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11.06am.

I can't even see them at all on the normal pages of the forum, only on notifications.

I am checking my settings. Just want to know if it is the same with anyone else.