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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by LULUBABY » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:54 am

CR001 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:07 am
LULUBABY wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:06 am
Fustrated2019 wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:39 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:34 pm
Hi all, please is anyone else experiencing this?.

If I click on notifications to read a post, I get this reply:
"You are not authorised to read this forum."
Just tried it and it works fine for me .
Thanks for letting me know. The problem is with some posts I missed from last week. I got notifications and tried to read them but still can't read all.

I can't read the following posts: eilenxx Sat Jan 09,2021, 12.11pm, Chris90 Sat Jan 09,2021, 1.32pm, xxxxxxxx Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11.06am.

I can't even see them at all on the normal pages of the forum, only on notifications.

I am checking my settings. Just want to know if it is the same with anyone else.
The posts you are referring to were removed due to breaching the forum rules. No one can see them except moderators.
Phew. That's ok. Thank you so much for the clarification. I am now rest assured it's not from my end because I was really worried it was from here.
Thanks.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Rosh_2704 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:13 pm

Hi All,

Just wanted to find out what’s happening with the group litigation. My EUSS application has been refused ( I have LTR) and I am in the process to appeal the decision. Don’t know where to start, it’s all a blur in my head. I would like to join the GLO, if possible.
I’ve just gone through all the posts since the last time I was here. It’s sad to see that Lolwe has left the forum; I was relying so much on his/her support with my issues 😔

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Mecry2020 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:53 am

Good morning everyone,

Trust you all keeping safe.

I received a notice of appeal yesterday since October for AFT 1, below is the contents.


ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF NOTICE OF APPEAL
This is to acknowledge receipt of an appeal to the First-tier Tribunal (Immigration and Asylum Chamber).
Your appeal has been sent to
IAC Glasgow, 1st Floor, The Glasgow Tribunals Centre, Atlantic Quay, 20 York Street, Glasgow, G2 8GT.
Email: glasgowiaccorrespondence@justice.gov.uk
The appeal reference number is shown above and must be quoted in any future correspondence with the Tribunal.
The attached Directions explain what you must do next and when it must be done.
Clerk to the First-tier Tribunal
ALL CORRESPONDENCE SHOULD BE SENT TO THE ADDRESS AT THE TOP OF THIS NOTICE QUOTING
THE APPEAL NUMBER AND ANY HEARING DATE
FIRST-TIER TRIBUNAL (IAC) ONLINE DIRECTIONS
REPRESENTED APPELLANTS
(NOT USING “MyHMCTS”)
NOTICE AND DIRECTIONS TO APPELLANT(S) AND RESPONDENT
1. The Tribunal has received the Notice of Appeal and accepts that it is not reasonably practicable for this appeal to proceed using “MyHMCTS”.
2. Provision of Information by the Parties
Within 5 working days of the date of this Notice parties must provide a direct contact number and dedicated email address to the Tribunal and to the other party to enable the Tribunal and the parties to communicate online and to take part in such remote hearings as are required.
3. Provision of Documents
These Directions refer throughout to material being ‘provided'. Material must be provided by
email to this email address glasgowiaccorrespondence@justice.gov.uk and to the other party or made available in such remote hearings as are required.
4. Provision of Information by Respondent
Not later than 14 days after the date of this Notice, unless already provided, the respondent must provide a bundle compliant with rule 24(1) of the Tribunal Procedure (First-tier Tribunal) (Immigration and Asylum Chamber) Rules 2014. This bundle must include the refusal decision and any material which was submitted in support of the application.
5. Appeal Skeleton Argument
5.1 Not later than 28 days after the respondent's bundle is provided, or 42 days after the Notice of Appeal, whichever is the later the appellant must provide an Appeal Skeleton Argument (“ASA”).
5.2 The ASA must contain three sections: (1) a brief summary of the appellant's factual case; (2) a schedule of issues; (3) the appellant's brief submissions on those issues which should state why the appellant disagrees with the respondent's decision with sufficient detail to enable the reasons for the challenge to be understood .
5.3 The ASA must:
• be concise;
• be set out in numbered paragraphs;
• Engage with the decision letter under challenge;
• not include extensive quotations from documents or authorities;
• Identify but not quote from any evidence or principle of law that will enable the basis of challenge to be understood.
6. Provision of Information by the Parties
Where the ASA refers to material, which is not included in the respondent's bundle, that material must be provided in an indexed and paginated bundle at the same time.
7. Respondent's Response
7.1 Within fourteen days of the ASA being provided the respondent must undertake a meaningful review of the appellant's case, taking into account the ASA and Appellant's bundle and provide the result of that review and particularise any additional grounds of refusal.
Pro-forma or standardised responses will not be accepted by the Tribunal. The Review must engage with the submissions made and the evidence provided.
7.2 Upon completion of the steps above, the appeal will be actively case managed.
8. Summary Timetable
Period within which step is to be taken Action
Not later than 14 days after the date of this
Notice Respondent's bundle (“RB”) must be provided
28 days after provision of RB or 42 days after notice of appeal, whichever is later Appellant must provide:
(i) Appellant's Explanation of Case (ii) Bundle of evidence in support
14 days after provision of appellant's AEC and evidence Respondent must provide:
Review with counter-schedule

9. Late Material
9.1 Any material provided to the Tribunal outside the time limits provided for in paragraph
7 may not be relied upon without leave.
9.2 Where any material is provided after 5 working days prior to the hearing, including on
the day of the hearing, the Judge must deal with the admissibility of that material at the hearing of the appeal as a preliminary matter.
10. Case Management and Listing
10.1 At each stage the appeal shall be considered by a Tribunal Caseworker or Judge who will decide on a case by case basis what additional directions, if any, are to be made in respect of that appeal and whether the appeal would benefit from a Case Management Appointment.
10.2 A party may apply at any time for a variation of these directions.
10.3 A party may apply at any time for a Case Management Appointment.


Does anyone has experience of virtual appeal before? it should to be oral appeal but now virtual instead.

Please tips would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Greatgreat » Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:43 pm

Mecry2020 wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:53 am
Good morning everyone,

Trust you all keeping safe.

I received a notice of appeal yesterday since October for AFT 1, below is the contents.


ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF NOTICE OF APPEAL
This is to acknowledge receipt of an appeal to the First-tier Tribunal (Immigration and Asylum Chamber).
Your appeal has been sent to
IAC Glasgow, 1st Floor, The Glasgow Tribunals Centre, Atlantic Quay, 20 York Street, Glasgow, G2 8GT.
Email: glasgowiaccorrespondence@justice.gov.uk
The appeal reference number is shown above and must be quoted in any future correspondence with the Tribunal.
The attached Directions explain what you must do next and when it must be done.
Clerk to the First-tier Tribunal
ALL CORRESPONDENCE SHOULD BE SENT TO THE ADDRESS AT THE TOP OF THIS NOTICE QUOTING
THE APPEAL NUMBER AND ANY HEARING DATE
FIRST-TIER TRIBUNAL (IAC) ONLINE DIRECTIONS
REPRESENTED APPELLANTS
(NOT USING “MyHMCTS”)
NOTICE AND DIRECTIONS TO APPELLANT(S) AND RESPONDENT
1. The Tribunal has received the Notice of Appeal and accepts that it is not reasonably practicable for this appeal to proceed using “MyHMCTS”.
2. Provision of Information by the Parties
Within 5 working days of the date of this Notice parties must provide a direct contact number and dedicated email address to the Tribunal and to the other party to enable the Tribunal and the parties to communicate online and to take part in such remote hearings as are required.
3. Provision of Documents
These Directions refer throughout to material being ‘provided'. Material must be provided by
email to this email address glasgowiaccorrespondence@justice.gov.uk and to the other party or made available in such remote hearings as are required.
4. Provision of Information by Respondent
Not later than 14 days after the date of this Notice, unless already provided, the respondent must provide a bundle compliant with rule 24(1) of the Tribunal Procedure (First-tier Tribunal) (Immigration and Asylum Chamber) Rules 2014. This bundle must include the refusal decision and any material which was submitted in support of the application.
5. Appeal Skeleton Argument
5.1 Not later than 28 days after the respondent's bundle is provided, or 42 days after the Notice of Appeal, whichever is the later the appellant must provide an Appeal Skeleton Argument (“ASA”).
5.2 The ASA must contain three sections: (1) a brief summary of the appellant's factual case; (2) a schedule of issues; (3) the appellant's brief submissions on those issues which should state why the appellant disagrees with the respondent's decision with sufficient detail to enable the reasons for the challenge to be understood .
5.3 The ASA must:
• be concise;
• be set out in numbered paragraphs;
• Engage with the decision letter under challenge;
• not include extensive quotations from documents or authorities;
• Identify but not quote from any evidence or principle of law that will enable the basis of challenge to be understood.
6. Provision of Information by the Parties
Where the ASA refers to material, which is not included in the respondent's bundle, that material must be provided in an indexed and paginated bundle at the same time.
7. Respondent's Response
7.1 Within fourteen days of the ASA being provided the respondent must undertake a meaningful review of the appellant's case, taking into account the ASA and Appellant's bundle and provide the result of that review and particularise any additional grounds of refusal.
Pro-forma or standardised responses will not be accepted by the Tribunal. The Review must engage with the submissions made and the evidence provided.
7.2 Upon completion of the steps above, the appeal will be actively case managed.
8. Summary Timetable
Period within which step is to be taken Action
Not later than 14 days after the date of this
Notice Respondent's bundle (“RB”) must be provided
28 days after provision of RB or 42 days after notice of appeal, whichever is later Appellant must provide:
(i) Appellant's Explanation of Case (ii) Bundle of evidence in support
14 days after provision of appellant's AEC and evidence Respondent must provide:
Review with counter-schedule

9. Late Material
9.1 Any material provided to the Tribunal outside the time limits provided for in paragraph
7 may not be relied upon without leave.
9.2 Where any material is provided after 5 working days prior to the hearing, including on
the day of the hearing, the Judge must deal with the admissibility of that material at the hearing of the appeal as a preliminary matter.
10. Case Management and Listing
10.1 At each stage the appeal shall be considered by a Tribunal Caseworker or Judge who will decide on a case by case basis what additional directions, if any, are to be made in respect of that appeal and whether the appeal would benefit from a Case Management Appointment.
10.2 A party may apply at any time for a variation of these directions.
10.3 A party may apply at any time for a Case Management Appointment.


Does anyone has experience of virtual appeal before? it should to be oral appeal but now virtual instead.

Please tips would be appreciated.

Thanks.
@Mecry2020, great that they are beginning to move the appeals along as I received same notice today. Though, mine is allocated to London but it's paper appeal.
I would imagine that they will send you another information about date and probably a link to be able to access the appeal from. Also if you haven't sent any supporting document this is the time to do so. Just follow the insttution about the skeleton arguement, look through the thread for advises and I wish you success x.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Rosh_2704 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:45 pm

LULUBABY wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:27 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:38 pm
lolwe wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:21 pm
gee4 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:15 pm


I will get on it tomorrow. Thank you
You are welcome. As soon as you can, please submit the application.

I don't think you should wait for the statement of case and lulubaby's refusal letter. We can send it later.

Steps
1.) Complete the fee remission form - EX160
2.) Complete the N244 online. Choose Print. Save the form as a PDF.
3.) Email the N244 form, the draft order, your refusal letter and @netqueen's refusal letter to
i.f.a.taylorhouse@justice.gov.uk
Customer.Service@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
IAFT5@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
4.) Call them +44 (0)300 123 1711

They might not have heard of a Group Litigation Order(GLO). Tell them you want to file an application notice (N244) for a collective action. Hopefully, they should understand.

Thank you!
Hi all, I just called them and the staff politely told me that GLO can’t be done. She told me our cases can’t be linked under GLO unless we are from the same family. She told me even if somehow our appeal all get to be heard together, “YOU MUST PAY THE INDIVIDUAL FEES I’M AFRAID, SORRY”. Mhhhhh, I wished her a Happy New Year and ended the call.

I will call again tomorrow and rephrase my question.

Meanwhile I already called the tribunal earlier this afternoon and asked about GLO and was told it can only be done if we are a group and was refused the same day. Their example to me was like if we are a “group of migrants from ...., you apply together against your group refusal”.
AHOY THERE HOME OFFICE!!!!!!

Hi all, I just called that same number again and asked them about APPLICATION NOTICE FORM N244, the staff said I called the wrong number and gave me the right number 03001235577.

I called them and BINGO!!!! the guy said it can be done.

PROCEDURE: (I should have written them down but was too excited to think fast).

Download the form on N244 form on direct.gov website.
Check how much the fee is for the application we are making.
Choose the court we will be sending the form to ( He said it has to be a court nearest to us as a group e.g. if in London for instance is it north, south, east, north west etc, you then scroll and check the court nearest to us).

Just to be very sure, I asked him again if we can use this form as a group of Zambrano carers who have received refusal decisions from the Home Office and want to go to court. He said yes, but in that case it has to be sent to Immigration and Asylum......

Honestly, I am so sorry all but I can't even remember what else he said again afterwards, my heart is just pounding very loud, I am shivering and my ears are buzzing.

Please can someone help me?. Can someone else who is calmer call with pen and paper and enquire from the new number?.

I am doing deep breaths therapy/ technique (whatever it is called), I will call them again tomorrow.

I feel so anxious and stressed. Oh please God, help me, please.....
Hi Lulubaby, can you please update on this? Did you manage to get any clarifications? My EUSSS application has been refused too and I was hoping to join the group litigation but I’m not sure where I stand. Kindly let me know

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Catalley09 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:50 pm

Greatgreat wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:43 pm
Mecry2020 wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:53 am
Good morning everyone,

Trust you all keeping safe.

I received a notice of appeal yesterday since October for AFT 1, below is the contents.


ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF NOTICE OF APPEAL
This is to acknowledge receipt of an appeal to the First-tier Tribunal (Immigration and Asylum Chamber).
Your appeal has been sent to
IAC Glasgow, 1st Floor, The Glasgow Tribunals Centre, Atlantic Quay, 20 York Street, Glasgow, G2 8GT.
Email: glasgowiaccorrespondence@justice.gov.uk
The appeal reference number is shown above and must be quoted in any future correspondence with the Tribunal.
The attached Directions explain what you must do next and when it must be done.
Clerk to the First-tier Tribunal
ALL CORRESPONDENCE SHOULD BE SENT TO THE ADDRESS AT THE TOP OF THIS NOTICE QUOTING
THE APPEAL NUMBER AND ANY HEARING DATE
FIRST-TIER TRIBUNAL (IAC) ONLINE DIRECTIONS
REPRESENTED APPELLANTS
(NOT USING “MyHMCTS”)
NOTICE AND DIRECTIONS TO APPELLANT(S) AND RESPONDENT
1. The Tribunal has received the Notice of Appeal and accepts that it is not reasonably practicable for this appeal to proceed using “MyHMCTS”.
2. Provision of Information by the Parties
Within 5 working days of the date of this Notice parties must provide a direct contact number and dedicated email address to the Tribunal and to the other party to enable the Tribunal and the parties to communicate online and to take part in such remote hearings as are required.
3. Provision of Documents
These Directions refer throughout to material being ‘provided'. Material must be provided by
email to this email address glasgowiaccorrespondence@justice.gov.uk and to the other party or made available in such remote hearings as are required.
4. Provision of Information by Respondent
Not later than 14 days after the date of this Notice, unless already provided, the respondent must provide a bundle compliant with rule 24(1) of the Tribunal Procedure (First-tier Tribunal) (Immigration and Asylum Chamber) Rules 2014. This bundle must include the refusal decision and any material which was submitted in support of the application.
5. Appeal Skeleton Argument
5.1 Not later than 28 days after the respondent's bundle is provided, or 42 days after the Notice of Appeal, whichever is the later the appellant must provide an Appeal Skeleton Argument (“ASA”).
5.2 The ASA must contain three sections: (1) a brief summary of the appellant's factual case; (2) a schedule of issues; (3) the appellant's brief submissions on those issues which should state why the appellant disagrees with the respondent's decision with sufficient detail to enable the reasons for the challenge to be understood .
5.3 The ASA must:
• be concise;
• be set out in numbered paragraphs;
• Engage with the decision letter under challenge;
• not include extensive quotations from documents or authorities;
• Identify but not quote from any evidence or principle of law that will enable the basis of challenge to be understood.
6. Provision of Information by the Parties
Where the ASA refers to material, which is not included in the respondent's bundle, that material must be provided in an indexed and paginated bundle at the same time.
7. Respondent's Response
7.1 Within fourteen days of the ASA being provided the respondent must undertake a meaningful review of the appellant's case, taking into account the ASA and Appellant's bundle and provide the result of that review and particularise any additional grounds of refusal.
Pro-forma or standardised responses will not be accepted by the Tribunal. The Review must engage with the submissions made and the evidence provided.
7.2 Upon completion of the steps above, the appeal will be actively case managed.
8. Summary Timetable
Period within which step is to be taken Action
Not later than 14 days after the date of this
Notice Respondent's bundle (“RB”) must be provided
28 days after provision of RB or 42 days after notice of appeal, whichever is later Appellant must provide:
(i) Appellant's Explanation of Case (ii) Bundle of evidence in support
14 days after provision of appellant's AEC and evidence Respondent must provide:
Review with counter-schedule

9. Late Material
9.1 Any material provided to the Tribunal outside the time limits provided for in paragraph
7 may not be relied upon without leave.
9.2 Where any material is provided after 5 working days prior to the hearing, including on
the day of the hearing, the Judge must deal with the admissibility of that material at the hearing of the appeal as a preliminary matter.
10. Case Management and Listing
10.1 At each stage the appeal shall be considered by a Tribunal Caseworker or Judge who will decide on a case by case basis what additional directions, if any, are to be made in respect of that appeal and whether the appeal would benefit from a Case Management Appointment.
10.2 A party may apply at any time for a variation of these directions.
10.3 A party may apply at any time for a Case Management Appointment.


Does anyone has experience of virtual appeal before? it should to be oral appeal but now virtual instead.

Please tips would be appreciated.

Thanks.
@Mecry2020, great that they are beginning to move the appeals along as I received same notice today. Though, mine is allocated to London but it's paper appeal.
I would imagine that they will send you another information about date and probably a link to be able to access the appeal from. Also if you haven't sent any supporting document this is the time to do so. Just follow the insttution about the skeleton arguement, look through the thread for advises and I wish you success x.
I also received an email about notice of appeal and that l requested paper hearing and it’s been sent to Taylor house in London, do l need to submit more information regarding evidence as l did that when l sent my appeal or l can resend again coz it didn’t ask me for a bundle? Hoping for something good to come out of this!

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Onomskky » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:56 pm

LULUBABY wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:04 pm
Onomskky wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:15 pm
Timeline
Applied as a parent of a British child under the 10 yr route in Feb 2015. Application was successful and BRP received in April. I have renewed twice and qualify under the 5 yrs continuous stay. In August 2019, I applied as a Zambrano carer under the EUSS based on the advise of HO when I called to see if I qualify. Biometrics was done and COA received in September 2019. I’m in a bit of a limbo as current leave expired 11 April 2020 whilst application is with HO and I’m yet to get a decision.
My worry is what happens if my application gets denied as my current leave expired almost 3 weeks ago ?
Hello Onomskky, thinking of you and wondering how you have been. How are things with you?.
Hello Lulu, apologies, I have been very busy and not on here for a long time. My JR was refused in August, and I applied under family life as a parent, which was granted last week and I'm awaiting my BRP. Can you please explain what the steps are to join the group litigation against the HO?

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Lagosbos » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:15 pm

@ omoskky, was extension issued as a continuation of your 10years or you had to start afresh, considering your leave expired before applying for an extension. Quite curious to know😊

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Lagosbos » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:16 pm

Onomskky wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:56 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:04 pm
Onomskky wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:15 pm
Timeline
Applied as a parent of a British child under the 10 yr route in Feb 2015. Application was successful and BRP received in April. I have renewed twice and qualify under the 5 yrs continuous stay. In August 2019, I applied as a Zambrano carer under the EUSS based on the advise of HO when I called to see if I qualify. Biometrics was done and COA received in September 2019. I’m in a bit of a limbo as current leave expired 11 April 2020 whilst application is with HO and I’m yet to get a decision.
My worry is what happens if my application gets denied as my current leave expired almost 3 weeks ago ?
Hello Onomskky, thinking of you and wondering how you have been. How are things with you?.
Hello Lulu, apologies, I have been very busy and not on here for a long time. My JR was refused in August, and I applied under family life as a parent, which was granted last week and I'm awaiting my BRP. Can you please explain what the steps are to join the group litigation against the HO?
@ omoskky, was extension issued as a continuation of your 10years or you had to start afresh, considering your leave expired before applying for an extension. Quite curious to know😊

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Onomskky » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 pm

Lagosbos wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:16 pm
Onomskky wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:56 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:04 pm
Onomskky wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:15 pm
Timeline
Applied as a parent of a British child under the 10 yr route in Feb 2015. Application was successful and BRP received in April. I have renewed twice and qualify under the 5 yrs continuous stay. In August 2019, I applied as a Zambrano carer under the EUSS based on the advise of HO when I called to see if I qualify. Biometrics was done and COA received in September 2019. I’m in a bit of a limbo as current leave expired 11 April 2020 whilst application is with HO and I’m yet to get a decision.
My worry is what happens if my application gets denied as my current leave expired almost 3 weeks ago ?
Hello Onomskky, thinking of you and wondering how you have been. How are things with you?.
Hello Lulu, apologies, I have been very busy and not on here for a long time. My JR was refused in August, and I applied under family life as a parent, which was granted last week and I'm awaiting my BRP. Can you please explain what the steps are to join the group litigation against the HO?
@ omoskky, was extension issued as a continuation of your 10years or you had to start afresh, considering your leave expired before applying for an extension. Quite curious to know😊
It’s a continuation of my current stay. I used paragraph 39E of the Immigration Rules, which covers applications from overstayers that are made within 14 days of the Home Office refusing status. You can see the rules set out using the following link, if you scroll down to the bottom where it says exception for overstayers and click on that this will show you the relevant paragraph:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... -in-the-uk

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Mecry2020 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:27 pm

Catalley09 wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:50 pm
Greatgreat wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:43 pm
Mecry2020 wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:53 am
Good morning everyone,

Trust you all keeping safe.

I received a notice of appeal yesterday since October for AFT 1, below is the contents.


ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF NOTICE OF APPEAL
This is to acknowledge receipt of an appeal to the First-tier Tribunal (Immigration and Asylum Chamber).
Your appeal has been sent to
IAC Glasgow, 1st Floor, The Glasgow Tribunals Centre, Atlantic Quay, 20 York Street, Glasgow, G2 8GT.
Email: glasgowiaccorrespondence@justice.gov.uk
The appeal reference number is shown above and must be quoted in any future correspondence with the Tribunal.
The attached Directions explain what you must do next and when it must be done.
Clerk to the First-tier Tribunal
ALL CORRESPONDENCE SHOULD BE SENT TO THE ADDRESS AT THE TOP OF THIS NOTICE QUOTING
THE APPEAL NUMBER AND ANY HEARING DATE
FIRST-TIER TRIBUNAL (IAC) ONLINE DIRECTIONS
REPRESENTED APPELLANTS
(NOT USING “MyHMCTS”)
NOTICE AND DIRECTIONS TO APPELLANT(S) AND RESPONDENT
1. The Tribunal has received the Notice of Appeal and accepts that it is not reasonably practicable for this appeal to proceed using “MyHMCTS”.
2. Provision of Information by the Parties
Within 5 working days of the date of this Notice parties must provide a direct contact number and dedicated email address to the Tribunal and to the other party to enable the Tribunal and the parties to communicate online and to take part in such remote hearings as are required.
3. Provision of Documents
These Directions refer throughout to material being ‘provided'. Material must be provided by
email to this email address glasgowiaccorrespondence@justice.gov.uk and to the other party or made available in such remote hearings as are required.
4. Provision of Information by Respondent
Not later than 14 days after the date of this Notice, unless already provided, the respondent must provide a bundle compliant with rule 24(1) of the Tribunal Procedure (First-tier Tribunal) (Immigration and Asylum Chamber) Rules 2014. This bundle must include the refusal decision and any material which was submitted in support of the application.
5. Appeal Skeleton Argument
5.1 Not later than 28 days after the respondent's bundle is provided, or 42 days after the Notice of Appeal, whichever is the later the appellant must provide an Appeal Skeleton Argument (“ASA”).
5.2 The ASA must contain three sections: (1) a brief summary of the appellant's factual case; (2) a schedule of issues; (3) the appellant's brief submissions on those issues which should state why the appellant disagrees with the respondent's decision with sufficient detail to enable the reasons for the challenge to be understood .
5.3 The ASA must:
• be concise;
• be set out in numbered paragraphs;
• Engage with the decision letter under challenge;
• not include extensive quotations from documents or authorities;
• Identify but not quote from any evidence or principle of law that will enable the basis of challenge to be understood.
6. Provision of Information by the Parties
Where the ASA refers to material, which is not included in the respondent's bundle, that material must be provided in an indexed and paginated bundle at the same time.
7. Respondent's Response
7.1 Within fourteen days of the ASA being provided the respondent must undertake a meaningful review of the appellant's case, taking into account the ASA and Appellant's bundle and provide the result of that review and particularise any additional grounds of refusal.
Pro-forma or standardised responses will not be accepted by the Tribunal. The Review must engage with the submissions made and the evidence provided.
7.2 Upon completion of the steps above, the appeal will be actively case managed.
8. Summary Timetable
Period within which step is to be taken Action
Not later than 14 days after the date of this
Notice Respondent's bundle (“RB”) must be provided
28 days after provision of RB or 42 days after notice of appeal, whichever is later Appellant must provide:
(i) Appellant's Explanation of Case (ii) Bundle of evidence in support
14 days after provision of appellant's AEC and evidence Respondent must provide:
Review with counter-schedule

9. Late Material
9.1 Any material provided to the Tribunal outside the time limits provided for in paragraph
7 may not be relied upon without leave.
9.2 Where any material is provided after 5 working days prior to the hearing, including on
the day of the hearing, the Judge must deal with the admissibility of that material at the hearing of the appeal as a preliminary matter.
10. Case Management and Listing
10.1 At each stage the appeal shall be considered by a Tribunal Caseworker or Judge who will decide on a case by case basis what additional directions, if any, are to be made in respect of that appeal and whether the appeal would benefit from a Case Management Appointment.
10.2 A party may apply at any time for a variation of these directions.
10.3 A party may apply at any time for a Case Management Appointment.


Does anyone has experience of virtual appeal before? it should to be oral appeal but now virtual instead.

Please tips would be appreciated.

Thanks.
@Mecry2020, great that they are beginning to move the appeals along as I received same notice today. Though, mine is allocated to London but it's paper appeal.
I would imagine that they will send you another information about date and probably a link to be able to access the appeal from. Also if you haven't sent any supporting document this is the time to do so. Just follow the insttution about the skeleton arguement, look through the thread for advises and I wish you success x.
I also received an email about notice of appeal and that l requested paper hearing and it’s been sent to Taylor house in London, do l need to submit more information regarding evidence as l did that when l sent my appeal or l can resend again coz it didn’t ask me for a bundle? Hoping for something good to come out of this!
thanks Catalley09

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Post by LULUBABY » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:25 pm

Onomskky wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:56 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:04 pm
Onomskky wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:15 pm
Timeline
Applied as a parent of a British child under the 10 yr route in Feb 2015. Application was successful and BRP received in April. I have renewed twice and qualify under the 5 yrs continuous stay. In August 2019, I applied as a Zambrano carer under the EUSS based on the advise of HO when I called to see if I qualify. Biometrics was done and COA received in September 2019. I’m in a bit of a limbo as current leave expired 11 April 2020 whilst application is with HO and I’m yet to get a decision.
My worry is what happens if my application gets denied as my current leave expired almost 3 weeks ago ?
Hello Onomskky, thinking of you and wondering how you have been. How are things with you?.
Hello Lulu, apologies, I have been very busy and not on here for a long time. My JR was refused in August, and I applied under family life as a parent, which was granted last week and I'm awaiting my BRP. Can you please explain what the steps are to join the group litigation against the HO?
I am so glad and relieved to hear from you. Oh my God. Your JR was refused?. Please did they state any reason for the refusal?.

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Post by LULUBABY » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:42 pm

Onomskky wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:56 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:04 pm
Onomskky wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:15 pm
Timeline
Applied as a parent of a British child under the 10 yr route in Feb 2015. Application was successful and BRP received in April. I have renewed twice and qualify under the 5 yrs continuous stay. In August 2019, I applied as a Zambrano carer under the EUSS based on the advise of HO when I called to see if I qualify. Biometrics was done and COA received in September 2019. I’m in a bit of a limbo as current leave expired 11 April 2020 whilst application is with HO and I’m yet to get a decision.
My worry is what happens if my application gets denied as my current leave expired almost 3 weeks ago ?
Hello Onomskky, thinking of you and wondering how you have been. How are things with you?.
Hello Lulu, apologies, I have been very busy and not on here for a long time. My JR was refused in August, and I applied under family life as a parent, which was granted last week and I'm awaiting my BRP. Can you please explain what the steps are to join the group litigation against the HO?
For the GLO, based on your EUSS refusal letter, you need to tell us which category you fall in so I can add you.
I feel you should call that number I posted and ask them questions so you can really hear from them and understand what is involved.

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Post by LULUBABY » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:46 pm

Onomskky wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 pm
Lagosbos wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:16 pm
Onomskky wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:56 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:04 pm


Hello Onomskky, thinking of you and wondering how you have been. How are things with you?.
Hello Lulu, apologies, I have been very busy and not on here for a long time. My JR was refused in August, and I applied under family life as a parent, which was granted last week and I'm awaiting my BRP. Can you please explain what the steps are to join the group litigation against the HO?
@ omoskky, was extension issued as a continuation of your 10years or you had to start afresh, considering your leave expired before applying for an extension. Quite curious to know😊
It’s a continuation of my current stay. I used paragraph 39E of the Immigration Rules, which covers applications from overstayers that are made within 14 days of the Home Office refusing status. You can see the rules set out using the following link, if you scroll down to the bottom where it says exception for overstayers and click on that this will show you the relevant paragraph:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... -in-the-uk
Phew!.

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Post by LULUBABY » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:54 pm

Rosh_2704 wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:45 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:27 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:38 pm
lolwe wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:21 pm


You are welcome. As soon as you can, please submit the application.

I don't think you should wait for the statement of case and lulubaby's refusal letter. We can send it later.

Steps
1.) Complete the fee remission form - EX160
2.) Complete the N244 online. Choose Print. Save the form as a PDF.
3.) Email the N244 form, the draft order, your refusal letter and @netqueen's refusal letter to
i.f.a.taylorhouse@justice.gov.uk
Customer.Service@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
IAFT5@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk
4.) Call them +44 (0)300 123 1711

They might not have heard of a Group Litigation Order(GLO). Tell them you want to file an application notice (N244) for a collective action. Hopefully, they should understand.

Thank you!
Hi all, I just called them and the staff politely told me that GLO can’t be done. She told me our cases can’t be linked under GLO unless we are from the same family. She told me even if somehow our appeal all get to be heard together, “YOU MUST PAY THE INDIVIDUAL FEES I’M AFRAID, SORRY”. Mhhhhh, I wished her a Happy New Year and ended the call.

I will call again tomorrow and rephrase my question.

Meanwhile I already called the tribunal earlier this afternoon and asked about GLO and was told it can only be done if we are a group and was refused the same day. Their example to me was like if we are a “group of migrants from ...., you apply together against your group refusal”.
AHOY THERE HOME OFFICE!!!!!!

Hi all, I just called that same number again and asked them about APPLICATION NOTICE FORM N244, the staff said I called the wrong number and gave me the right number 03001235577.

I called them and BINGO!!!! the guy said it can be done.

PROCEDURE: (I should have written them down but was too excited to think fast).

Download the form on N244 form on direct.gov website.
Check how much the fee is for the application we are making.
Choose the court we will be sending the form to ( He said it has to be a court nearest to us as a group e.g. if in London for instance is it north, south, east, north west etc, you then scroll and check the court nearest to us).

Just to be very sure, I asked him again if we can use this form as a group of Zambrano carers who have received refusal decisions from the Home Office and want to go to court. He said yes, but in that case it has to be sent to Immigration and Asylum......

Honestly, I am so sorry all but I can't even remember what else he said again afterwards, my heart is just pounding very loud, I am shivering and my ears are buzzing.

Please can someone help me?. Can someone else who is calmer call with pen and paper and enquire from the new number?.

I am doing deep breaths therapy/ technique (whatever it is called), I will call them again tomorrow.

I feel so anxious and stressed. Oh please God, help me, please.....
Hi Lulubaby, can you please update on this? Did you manage to get any clarifications? My EUSSS application has been refused too and I was hoping to join the group litigation but I’m not sure where I stand. Kindly let me know
Sorry to hear about your refusal. What reason did HO give?. Based on the reason on your refusal letter, hopefully you should fall under one of the categories and I will add you for the GLO.

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Post by LULUBABY » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:08 am

Lagosbos wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:16 pm
Onomskky wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:56 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:04 pm
Onomskky wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:15 pm
Timeline
Applied as a parent of a British child under the 10 yr route in Feb 2015. Application was successful and BRP received in April. I have renewed twice and qualify under the 5 yrs continuous stay. In August 2019, I applied as a Zambrano carer under the EUSS based on the advise of HO when I called to see if I qualify. Biometrics was done and COA received in September 2019. I’m in a bit of a limbo as current leave expired 11 April 2020 whilst application is with HO and I’m yet to get a decision.
My worry is what happens if my application gets denied as my current leave expired almost 3 weeks ago ?
Hello Onomskky, thinking of you and wondering how you have been. How are things with you?.
Hello Lulu, apologies, I have been very busy and not on here for a long time. My JR was refused in August, and I applied under family life as a parent, which was granted last week and I'm awaiting my BRP. Can you please explain what the steps are to join the group litigation against the HO?
@ omoskky, was extension issued as a continuation of your 10years or you had to start afresh, considering your leave expired before applying for an extension. Quite curious to know😊
Lagosbos how far?. Did you call the number for the GLO?. I was hoping we all call that number and ask all the questions and understand what it entails so we can know if we can do it within the forum rules. If not then we go back to the drawing board.

Meanwhile you are meant to be compiling the GLO list too, 'CHOP CHOP'.

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Post by LULUBABY » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:01 am

Hi all apologies for not getting an update on the GLO yet due to home schooling and all.

I am suggesting we all call that number and ask all the questions so we can understand the process and what we are about to do next.
We also need to check on the website to find out how much it cost.
Unfortunately Gee hasn't come back to show further interest in the GLO so we have to think of plan B as per fee waiver / costs.

I also feel though we are all Zambrano carers our meeting point is this forum therefore we have to be conscious of not breaking forum rules.

We have to be realistic and not lead ourselves on. (My thoughts though).

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Post by LULUBABY » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:10 am

Mecry2020 wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:53 am
Good morning everyone,

Trust you all keeping safe.

I received a notice of appeal yesterday since October for AFT 1, below is the contents.


ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF NOTICE OF APPEAL
This is to acknowledge receipt of an appeal to the First-tier Tribunal (Immigration and Asylum Chamber).
Your appeal has been sent to
IAC Glasgow, 1st Floor, The Glasgow Tribunals Centre, Atlantic Quay, 20 York Street, Glasgow, G2 8GT.
Email: glasgowiaccorrespondence@justice.gov.uk
The appeal reference number is shown above and must be quoted in any future correspondence with the Tribunal.
The attached Directions explain what you must do next and when it must be done.
Clerk to the First-tier Tribunal
ALL CORRESPONDENCE SHOULD BE SENT TO THE ADDRESS AT THE TOP OF THIS NOTICE QUOTING
THE APPEAL NUMBER AND ANY HEARING DATE
FIRST-TIER TRIBUNAL (IAC) ONLINE DIRECTIONS
REPRESENTED APPELLANTS
(NOT USING “MyHMCTS”)
NOTICE AND DIRECTIONS TO APPELLANT(S) AND RESPONDENT
1. The Tribunal has received the Notice of Appeal and accepts that it is not reasonably practicable for this appeal to proceed using “MyHMCTS”.
2. Provision of Information by the Parties
Within 5 working days of the date of this Notice parties must provide a direct contact number and dedicated email address to the Tribunal and to the other party to enable the Tribunal and the parties to communicate online and to take part in such remote hearings as are required.
3. Provision of Documents
These Directions refer throughout to material being ‘provided'. Material must be provided by
email to this email address glasgowiaccorrespondence@justice.gov.uk and to the other party or made available in such remote hearings as are required.
4. Provision of Information by Respondent
Not later than 14 days after the date of this Notice, unless already provided, the respondent must provide a bundle compliant with rule 24(1) of the Tribunal Procedure (First-tier Tribunal) (Immigration and Asylum Chamber) Rules 2014. This bundle must include the refusal decision and any material which was submitted in support of the application.
5. Appeal Skeleton Argument
5.1 Not later than 28 days after the respondent's bundle is provided, or 42 days after the Notice of Appeal, whichever is the later the appellant must provide an Appeal Skeleton Argument (“ASA”).
5.2 The ASA must contain three sections: (1) a brief summary of the appellant's factual case; (2) a schedule of issues; (3) the appellant's brief submissions on those issues which should state why the appellant disagrees with the respondent's decision with sufficient detail to enable the reasons for the challenge to be understood .
5.3 The ASA must:
• be concise;
• be set out in numbered paragraphs;
• Engage with the decision letter under challenge;
• not include extensive quotations from documents or authorities;
• Identify but not quote from any evidence or principle of law that will enable the basis of challenge to be understood.
6. Provision of Information by the Parties
Where the ASA refers to material, which is not included in the respondent's bundle, that material must be provided in an indexed and paginated bundle at the same time.
7. Respondent's Response
7.1 Within fourteen days of the ASA being provided the respondent must undertake a meaningful review of the appellant's case, taking into account the ASA and Appellant's bundle and provide the result of that review and particularise any additional grounds of refusal.
Pro-forma or standardised responses will not be accepted by the Tribunal. The Review must engage with the submissions made and the evidence provided.
7.2 Upon completion of the steps above, the appeal will be actively case managed.
8. Summary Timetable
Period within which step is to be taken Action
Not later than 14 days after the date of this
Notice Respondent's bundle (“RB”) must be provided
28 days after provision of RB or 42 days after notice of appeal, whichever is later Appellant must provide:
(i) Appellant's Explanation of Case (ii) Bundle of evidence in support
14 days after provision of appellant's AEC and evidence Respondent must provide:
Review with counter-schedule

9. Late Material
9.1 Any material provided to the Tribunal outside the time limits provided for in paragraph
7 may not be relied upon without leave.
9.2 Where any material is provided after 5 working days prior to the hearing, including on
the day of the hearing, the Judge must deal with the admissibility of that material at the hearing of the appeal as a preliminary matter.
10. Case Management and Listing
10.1 At each stage the appeal shall be considered by a Tribunal Caseworker or Judge who will decide on a case by case basis what additional directions, if any, are to be made in respect of that appeal and whether the appeal would benefit from a Case Management Appointment.
10.2 A party may apply at any time for a variation of these directions.
10.3 A party may apply at any time for a Case Management Appointment.


Does anyone has experience of virtual appeal before? it should to be oral appeal but now virtual instead.

Please tips would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Sorry to hear about your refusal. Mhhhh, HO is really not giving up.

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Post by LULUBABY » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:09 pm

Honestly I don't even know what to say anymore. I just called the number to ask about APPLICATION NOTICE FORM N244. I explained what we need it for.

I was asked our aim for the application? Do we need compensation?. The staff told me it has to be a monetary claim and we have to make the application to the COUNTY COURT using form N1.

He said if as a result of our Claim for compensation something else comes out of the case and we need to make a further application, we then will use form N244 e.g. to seek adjournment, seek settlement etc.

He then told me that if we are appealing against the HO decision, that no 2 cases are the same therefore it has to be done individually and not as a group.

I was number 37 on the queue.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Rosh_2704 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:14 pm

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LULUBABY wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:54 pm
Rosh_2704 wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:45 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:27 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:38 pm


Hi all, I just called them and the staff politely told me that GLO can’t be done. She told me our cases can’t be linked under GLO unless we are from the same family. She told me even if somehow our appeal all get to be heard together, “YOU MUST PAY THE INDIVIDUAL FEES I’M AFRAID, SORRY”. Mhhhhh, I wished her a Happy New Year and ended the call.

I will call again tomorrow and rephrase my question.

Meanwhile I already called the tribunal earlier this afternoon and asked about GLO and was told it can only be done if we are a group and was refused the same day. Their example to me was like if we are a “group of migrants from ...., you apply together against your group refusal”.
AHOY THERE HOME OFFICE!!!!!!

Hi all, I just called that same number again and asked them about APPLICATION NOTICE FORM N244, the staff said I called the wrong number and gave me the right number 03001235577.

I called them and BINGO!!!! the guy said it can be done.

PROCEDURE: (I should have written them down but was too excited to think fast).

Download the form on N244 form on direct.gov website.
Check how much the fee is for the application we are making.
Choose the court we will be sending the form to ( He said it has to be a court nearest to us as a group e.g. if in London for instance is it north, south, east, north west etc, you then scroll and check the court nearest to us).

Just to be very sure, I asked him again if we can use this form as a group of Zambrano carers who have received refusal decisions from the Home Office and want to go to court. He said yes, but in that case it has to be sent to Immigration and Asylum......

Honestly, I am so sorry all but I can't even remember what else he said again afterwards, my heart is just pounding very loud, I am shivering and my ears are buzzing.

Please can someone help me?. Can someone else who is calmer call with pen and paper and enquire from the new number?.

I am doing deep breaths therapy/ technique (whatever it is called), I will call them again tomorrow.

I feel so anxious and stressed. Oh please God, help me, please.....
Hi Lulubaby, can you please update on this? Did you manage to get any clarifications? My EUSSS application has been refused too and I was hoping to join the group litigation but I’m not sure where I stand. Kindly let me know
Sorry to hear about your refusal. What reason did HO give?. Based on the reason on your refusal letter, hopefully you should fall under one of the categories and I will add you for the GLO.

The notice decision says I do not qualify since I hold a valid leave to remain until the 10th of June. It says they did not consider the rest of my application since I have an existing leave under the Family and private life

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Fustrated2019 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:13 pm

@lulubaby please can you help me with the appeal template for DFR1 application please .

Thank you

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Post by Fustrated2019 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:30 pm

Ngoo wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:33 pm
Hello Snooky,

Please I need your advice.

Is almost 4 months since I submitted my EEA Zambrano Appeal, and is still waiting for a judge to look at it. I do call them every week for an update and I get the same response every time. What should I do?
Many Thanks
please can i have the template you used for your appeal please? thank you

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Ngoo » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:03 pm

Fustrated2019 wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:30 pm
Ngoo wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:33 pm
Hello Snooky,

Please I need your advice.

Is almost 4 months since I submitted my EEA Zambrano Appeal, and is still waiting for a judge to look at it. I do call them every week for an update and I get the same response every time. What should I do?
Many Thanks
please can i have the template you used for your appeal please? thank you


Hello Fustrated2019,

Please edit accordingly, good luck!

Appeal No. /2019
IN THE FIRST-TIER TRIBUNAL (IMMIGRATION AND ASYLUM CHAMBER)


BETWEEN

MR EEA FAMILY MEMBER

Appellants

THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE HOME DEPARTMENT

Respondent


SKELETON ARGUMENT OF THE APPELLANTSI


1. This skeleton argument is in support of this appeal against the decision of the Secretary of State for the Home Department ("the Respondent") dated 10 June 2019 to refuse the Appellants' applications for derivative residence cards through the Zambrano route.
Accordingly this skeleton argument will refer to MR EEA as "the Appellants"
2. MR EEA has for many years suffered with stress due to Home Office delay.
Facts

1 References to the Appellants' and Respondent's bundles are in the format [A/ 1] and [R/ l] respectively


4. The Appellants are a married couple. Mr EEA is an African ([R/202]) and was born on September 1974. He is married to Ms EU . Ms EU is also an African national ([R/201]) and was born on June 1974. They have four children:
a. MT who is a African national and was born on July 2001 [R/207]; b Ms PT who is a British national and was born on March 2003. Her passport is currently being renewed.
c. MK, who is a British national and was born on August 2005. See [R/ 199] for his British passport.
d. TA, who is an African national and was born on the July 2010. See [R/206] for his birth certificate, and [R/204] for his foreign passport .
5 The Appellants applied for derivative residence cards on 17 February 2019 [R/ 196] on the basis of their status as primary carers for their two EEA-national children through the Zambrano route.
6 By letter dated 10 June 2019 the Respondent refused the Appellants' application (R/208-12). No issue in that refusal was taken as to the Appellants' status as parents and primary carers of their EEA-national children. The Respondent did not address the relevant case-law and Regulations at all. Instead, the sole reason given for the refusal of their application was as follows:

'You have made no attempt to regularise your stay in the UK through an application made under the UK 's domestic immigration law

The Zambrano route

7. The Court of Justice of the European Union ("CJEU") considered in Ruiz Zambrano v Office national de I 'emploi (C-34 09) 8 March 2011 the effect of EU citizenship as established by Article 20 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union in circumstances, such as these, where non-EEA national parents are the primary carers of EEA national children. From paragraph [42], the CJEU set out that a refusal to grant a right of residence to a third country national with dependent EU citizen minor
children would deprive those children of the genuine enjoyment of their right of citizenship. The Court said:
"[42] [... ] Article 20 TFEUprecludes,national measures which have the effect o de rivin citizens o the Union o the enuine eWo mento the substance o the rights conferred by virtue of their status as citizens of the Union (see, to that effect, Rottmann, paragraph 42).
[43] A refusal to grant a right of residence to a third counüy national with de endent minor children in the Member State where those children are nationals and reside. and also a refusal to grant such a person a work permit, has such an effect.
[44] It must be assumed that such a refusal would lead to a situation where those children. citizens qf the Union. would have to leave the territory of the Union in order to accompany their parents. L...] In those circumstances, those citizens of the Union would, in fact, be unable to exercise the substance of the rights conferred on them by virtue of their status as citizens of the Union. [45] Accordingly, the answer to the questions referred is that Article 20 TFEU is to be interpreted as meaning that it precludes a Member State from refusing a third country national upon whom his minor children, who are European Union citizens, are dependent, a right of residence in the Member State ofresidence and nationality of those children, andfrom refusing to grant a workpermit to that third country national, in sofar as such decisions deprive those children ofthe genuine enjoyment ofthe substance ofthe rights attaching to the status ofEuropean Union citizen.
8. Amendments to the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006 ("the Regulations") put the decision in Zambrano on a legislative footing in domestic law. Section ISA, 'Derived rights of residence' of the Regulations provides:
(1) A person ('P ) who is not [an exempt person] and who satisfies that criteria in paragraph (2), (3), [(4A)] or (5) of this regulation is entitled to a derivative right to reside in the United Kingdom for as long as P satisfies the relevant criteria.
(4A) P satisfies the criteria in this paragraph if-
(a) P is the primary carer Qfa British citizen ('the relevant British citizen '); (b) the relevant British citizen is residing in the United Kingdom; and (c) the relevant British citizen would be unable to reside in the UK or in another EEA State ifP were required to leave.

9. In considering the scope of the Zambrano route, the CJEU and domestic courts have stressed a distinction between "choice" and "compulsion". It is not sufficient that if an appellant were refused a right of residence the EU citizen would choose to leave the territory of the EU; it is required that they would be compelled to leave the EU if the non-EU citizen so left. For example, in Dereci and Others v Bundesministeriumfiir Inneres (C-256 Il) 15 November 2011 the CJEU held at [67]:
The mere fact that it might appear desirable to a national of a Member State, for economic reasons or in order to keep his family together in the territory of the Union, for the members of his family who do not have the nationality of a Member State to be able to reside with him in the territory of the Union, is not sufficient in itself to support the view that the Union citizen will be forced to leave the Union, if such a right is not granted. "

10. This distinction was particularly relevant in Dereci because in that case, unlike in Zambrano, one parent of the EU citizen children was an EU citizen herself.
Accordingly it would have been an exercise of choice to keep the family together by leaving the territory of the EU. Clearly that is not the case as regards the Appellants:
they are both African nationals without leave to remain in the United Kingdom.

11. The Court of Appeal considered recently derived routes of residence through the Zambrano route in Patel v Secretary ofState for the Home Department [2017] EWCA
Civ 2028 in light of the decision of the CJEU in Chavez-Vilchez v Raad van Bestuur van de Sociale Verbekeringsbank and others (C-113 15) 10 May 2017. In his consideration of Chavez-Vilchez, Irwin LJ said as follows:

'The Court confirmed that the relevant question was whether the children would, in practice. be compelled to leave the EU if their mothers were obliged to leave the territory of the EU (paragraph 65). That is a question off act in each case, and the Court touched on a number of factors relevant to that question:

"68. In that regard, it must be recalled that, in the judgment Q/ 6
December 2012, O and ()/hers (C-35611 and C-357, 11,
776, paragraphs 51 and 56), the Court held that factors of relevance, for the purposes of determining whether a refusal to grant a right Q/residence to a third-country' national parent of a child who is a
Union citizen means that that child is deprived of the genuine enjoyment Q/ the substance of the rights conferred on him by that status, include the question o/'who has custody of the child and whether that child is legally, financially or emotionally dependent on the third-countr.y: national parent.

69. As regards the second factor, the Court has stated that it is the relationship (21dependency between the Union citizen who is a minor and the third country national who is refused a right of residence that is liable to jeopardies the effectiveness of Union citizenship, since it is that dependency that M'ould lead to the Union citizen being obliged, in practice, to leave not only the territory Q/ the Member State Q/which he is a national but also that ofthe European Union as a whole, as a consequence Q/such a refusal T...]
70. In this case, in order to assess the risk that a particular child, M'/IO is a Union citizen, might be compelled io lecn•e the territory of the European Union and thereby be deprived Q/ the genuine enjoyment of the substance of the rights conferred on him by Article 20 TFEU if the child's third-country national parent were to be rejilsed a right of residence in the Member Slate concerned, it is important to determine. in each case at issue in the main proceedings. which parent is the rima ' carero the child and whether there is in åct a relationshi o dependency between the child and the third-countrv national parent. As part ofthat assessment, the competent authorities must take account of the right to respectforfamily life, as stated in Article 7 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights Qflhe European Union, that article
requiring to be read in conjunction with the obligation to take info consideration the best interests Qfthe child, recognised in Article 24(2) of that charter.

12. The reasoning of the Respondent's decision letter is so bare that it requires some extrapolation. In Patel Irwin LJ said at [76] the following in respect of non-British nationals who marry British nationals and have children:
'Quite a number "years ago, Parliament chose to abrogate the historic approach that marriage io a Brüish citizen would bring, in effect automatically, residence in Britainfor the spouse. No such automatic consequence now follows, see s. 6(2) Qi'/he British Nationa/üy Act
198] and s.2 QIfhe Nationality, Immigration and Asvlum Aci 2002 . Those who marry a British citizen and have children, without having (or acquiring) leave to remain, do so at the risk that they may be compelled to leave the country', facing the real quandary ihai arisesfor these families. The Zambrano principle cannot be regarded as a back-door route to residence by such nonEU citizen parents.
13. Clearly, that is not the case in respect of many of seek to vindicate their EU citizenship rights by way of the Zambrano route (including the Appellants).
Nonetheless the Respondent issued on 2 May 2019, i.e. some months after the date of the Appellants' application, a policy entitled 'Free movement rights: derivative rights of residence' v.5 ("the Policy"'). This Guidance sets out at p.52 that, in respect of every Zambrano application:

"In the case of [Patel] the Court of Appeal ruled that someone holding leave to remain under domestic law would not benefit from a derivative right to reside. The Court also ruled that Zambrano is not a back-door route to residence for those who have a British citizen child without having or acquiring leave to remain.
This means that a Zambrano application must be refused if the applicant:​ Has never made an application under Appendix FM to the
Immigration Rules or any other Article 8 ECHR claim, where that avenue is available '
Submissions

14. The refusal of the Appellants' application for derivative residence cards is contrary to the Regulations. They plainly satisfy the following criteria under paragraph 4A of section 15A of those Regulations:
a. The Appellants are the primary carers of their British citizen children, who are 16 and 14 years old. See, by way of example, [5] of Mr EEA witness statement.
b. Their British citizen children reside in the UK. See, by way of example, BT's confirmation of school attendance at [A/23].
c. Their British citizen children would be "unable to reside in the UK or another EEA State if[the Appellants] were required to leave. " Any suggestion that these children would remain in the UK without their parents is fanciful.
15. Any preference on the part of the Respondent for an Appellant to apply by a different route first is irrelevant. Section 15A of the Regulations contains no proviso that a human rights application (e.g. by way of Appendix FM) be made before an application under the Zambrano route.
16. The Court is bound to consider the best interests of the family's children, whether by operation of section 55 of the Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Act 2009 or the citation of Chavez-Vilchez cited above at [11]. This strongly militates in favour of a grant of derivative residence to their parents.
17. Further, it is by no means certain that an application under Appendix FM could be made, or would succeed. There are clear practical obstacles in the making of an application as set out in [17-8] of Mr EEA's witness statement. Even if such an application were to be made, it is entirely uncertain that it would be granted by the Respondent.
18. In any event, the change to the Policy is at odds with the judgment in Patel itself. At [42], Irwin LJ considered the Secretary of State' s submission which emphasised that an appellant in Patel had never made an application for leave to remain in the UK on family life grounds. The Court' s response was unequivocal
"I pause to remark that such an application might well be open to him. We have seen material in the course of the case which niight well be relevant to such an application, although it cannot bear upon the decision we must take.
19. It follows that the application of the Policy in this case is not contrary just to Zambrano and the Regulations. It is contrary to the case which inspired it
Conclusion

20. The Court is respectfully invited to allow the appeal.


OCTOBER 2019

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Fustrated2019 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:47 pm

Ngoo wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:03 pm
Fustrated2019 wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:30 pm
Ngoo wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:33 pm
Hello Snooky,

Please I need your advice.

Is almost 4 months since I submitted my EEA Zambrano Appeal, and is still waiting for a judge to look at it. I do call them every week for an update and I get the same response every time. What should I do?
Many Thanks
please can i have the template you used for your appeal please? thank you


Hello Fustrated2019,

Please edit accordingly, good luck!

Appeal No. /2019
IN THE FIRST-TIER TRIBUNAL (IMMIGRATION AND ASYLUM CHAMBER)


BETWEEN

MR EEA FAMILY MEMBER

Appellants

THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE HOME DEPARTMENT

Respondent


SKELETON ARGUMENT OF THE APPELLANTSI


1. This skeleton argument is in support of this appeal against the decision of the Secretary of State for the Home Department ("the Respondent") dated 10 June 2019 to refuse the Appellants' applications for derivative residence cards through the Zambrano route.
Accordingly this skeleton argument will refer to MR EEA as "the Appellants"
2. MR EEA has for many years suffered with stress due to Home Office delay.
Facts

1 References to the Appellants' and Respondent's bundles are in the format [A/ 1] and [R/ l] respectively


4. The Appellants are a married couple. Mr EEA is an African ([R/202]) and was born on September 1974. He is married to Ms EU . Ms EU is also an African national ([R/201]) and was born on June 1974. They have four children:
a. MT who is a African national and was born on July 2001 [R/207]; b Ms PT who is a British national and was born on March 2003. Her passport is currently being renewed.
c. MK, who is a British national and was born on August 2005. See [R/ 199] for his British passport.
d. TA, who is an African national and was born on the July 2010. See [R/206] for his birth certificate, and [R/204] for his foreign passport .
5 The Appellants applied for derivative residence cards on 17 February 2019 [R/ 196] on the basis of their status as primary carers for their two EEA-national children through the Zambrano route.
6 By letter dated 10 June 2019 the Respondent refused the Appellants' application (R/208-12). No issue in that refusal was taken as to the Appellants' status as parents and primary carers of their EEA-national children. The Respondent did not address the relevant case-law and Regulations at all. Instead, the sole reason given for the refusal of their application was as follows:

'You have made no attempt to regularise your stay in the UK through an application made under the UK 's domestic immigration law

The Zambrano route

7. The Court of Justice of the European Union ("CJEU") considered in Ruiz Zambrano v Office national de I 'emploi (C-34 09) 8 March 2011 the effect of EU citizenship as established by Article 20 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union in circumstances, such as these, where non-EEA national parents are the primary carers of EEA national children. From paragraph [42], the CJEU set out that a refusal to grant a right of residence to a third country national with dependent EU citizen minor
children would deprive those children of the genuine enjoyment of their right of citizenship. The Court said:
"[42] [... ] Article 20 TFEUprecludes,national measures which have the effect o de rivin citizens o the Union o the enuine eWo mento the substance o the rights conferred by virtue of their status as citizens of the Union (see, to that effect, Rottmann, paragraph 42).
[43] A refusal to grant a right of residence to a third counüy national with de endent minor children in the Member State where those children are nationals and reside. and also a refusal to grant such a person a work permit, has such an effect.
[44] It must be assumed that such a refusal would lead to a situation where those children. citizens qf the Union. would have to leave the territory of the Union in order to accompany their parents. L...] In those circumstances, those citizens of the Union would, in fact, be unable to exercise the substance of the rights conferred on them by virtue of their status as citizens of the Union. [45] Accordingly, the answer to the questions referred is that Article 20 TFEU is to be interpreted as meaning that it precludes a Member State from refusing a third country national upon whom his minor children, who are European Union citizens, are dependent, a right of residence in the Member State ofresidence and nationality of those children, andfrom refusing to grant a workpermit to that third country national, in sofar as such decisions deprive those children ofthe genuine enjoyment ofthe substance ofthe rights attaching to the status ofEuropean Union citizen.
8. Amendments to the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006 ("the Regulations") put the decision in Zambrano on a legislative footing in domestic law. Section ISA, 'Derived rights of residence' of the Regulations provides:
(1) A person ('P ) who is not [an exempt person] and who satisfies that criteria in paragraph (2), (3), [(4A)] or (5) of this regulation is entitled to a derivative right to reside in the United Kingdom for as long as P satisfies the relevant criteria.
(4A) P satisfies the criteria in this paragraph if-
(a) P is the primary carer Qfa British citizen ('the relevant British citizen '); (b) the relevant British citizen is residing in the United Kingdom; and (c) the relevant British citizen would be unable to reside in the UK or in another EEA State ifP were required to leave.

9. In considering the scope of the Zambrano route, the CJEU and domestic courts have stressed a distinction between "choice" and "compulsion". It is not sufficient that if an appellant were refused a right of residence the EU citizen would choose to leave the territory of the EU; it is required that they would be compelled to leave the EU if the non-EU citizen so left. For example, in Dereci and Others v Bundesministeriumfiir Inneres (C-256 Il) 15 November 2011 the CJEU held at [67]:
The mere fact that it might appear desirable to a national of a Member State, for economic reasons or in order to keep his family together in the territory of the Union, for the members of his family who do not have the nationality of a Member State to be able to reside with him in the territory of the Union, is not sufficient in itself to support the view that the Union citizen will be forced to leave the Union, if such a right is not granted. "

10. This distinction was particularly relevant in Dereci because in that case, unlike in Zambrano, one parent of the EU citizen children was an EU citizen herself.
Accordingly it would have been an exercise of choice to keep the family together by leaving the territory of the EU. Clearly that is not the case as regards the Appellants:
they are both African nationals without leave to remain in the United Kingdom.

11. The Court of Appeal considered recently derived routes of residence through the Zambrano route in Patel v Secretary ofState for the Home Department [2017] EWCA
Civ 2028 in light of the decision of the CJEU in Chavez-Vilchez v Raad van Bestuur van de Sociale Verbekeringsbank and others (C-113 15) 10 May 2017. In his consideration of Chavez-Vilchez, Irwin LJ said as follows:

'The Court confirmed that the relevant question was whether the children would, in practice. be compelled to leave the EU if their mothers were obliged to leave the territory of the EU (paragraph 65). That is a question off act in each case, and the Court touched on a number of factors relevant to that question:

"68. In that regard, it must be recalled that, in the judgment Q/ 6
December 2012, O and ()/hers (C-35611 and C-357, 11,
776, paragraphs 51 and 56), the Court held that factors of relevance, for the purposes of determining whether a refusal to grant a right Q/residence to a third-country' national parent of a child who is a
Union citizen means that that child is deprived of the genuine enjoyment Q/ the substance of the rights conferred on him by that status, include the question o/'who has custody of the child and whether that child is legally, financially or emotionally dependent on the third-countr.y: national parent.

69. As regards the second factor, the Court has stated that it is the relationship (21dependency between the Union citizen who is a minor and the third country national who is refused a right of residence that is liable to jeopardies the effectiveness of Union citizenship, since it is that dependency that M'ould lead to the Union citizen being obliged, in practice, to leave not only the territory Q/ the Member State Q/which he is a national but also that ofthe European Union as a whole, as a consequence Q/such a refusal T...]
70. In this case, in order to assess the risk that a particular child, M'/IO is a Union citizen, might be compelled io lecn•e the territory of the European Union and thereby be deprived Q/ the genuine enjoyment of the substance of the rights conferred on him by Article 20 TFEU if the child's third-country national parent were to be rejilsed a right of residence in the Member Slate concerned, it is important to determine. in each case at issue in the main proceedings. which parent is the rima ' carero the child and whether there is in åct a relationshi o dependency between the child and the third-countrv national parent. As part ofthat assessment, the competent authorities must take account of the right to respectforfamily life, as stated in Article 7 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights Qflhe European Union, that article
requiring to be read in conjunction with the obligation to take info consideration the best interests Qfthe child, recognised in Article 24(2) of that charter.

12. The reasoning of the Respondent's decision letter is so bare that it requires some extrapolation. In Patel Irwin LJ said at [76] the following in respect of non-British nationals who marry British nationals and have children:
'Quite a number "years ago, Parliament chose to abrogate the historic approach that marriage io a Brüish citizen would bring, in effect automatically, residence in Britainfor the spouse. No such automatic consequence now follows, see s. 6(2) Qi'/he British Nationa/üy Act
198] and s.2 QIfhe Nationality, Immigration and Asvlum Aci 2002 . Those who marry a British citizen and have children, without having (or acquiring) leave to remain, do so at the risk that they may be compelled to leave the country', facing the real quandary ihai arisesfor these families. The Zambrano principle cannot be regarded as a back-door route to residence by such nonEU citizen parents.
13. Clearly, that is not the case in respect of many of seek to vindicate their EU citizenship rights by way of the Zambrano route (including the Appellants).
Nonetheless the Respondent issued on 2 May 2019, i.e. some months after the date of the Appellants' application, a policy entitled 'Free movement rights: derivative rights of residence' v.5 ("the Policy"'). This Guidance sets out at p.52 that, in respect of every Zambrano application:

"In the case of [Patel] the Court of Appeal ruled that someone holding leave to remain under domestic law would not benefit from a derivative right to reside. The Court also ruled that Zambrano is not a back-door route to residence for those who have a British citizen child without having or acquiring leave to remain.
This means that a Zambrano application must be refused if the applicant:​ Has never made an application under Appendix FM to the
Immigration Rules or any other Article 8 ECHR claim, where that avenue is available '
Submissions

14. The refusal of the Appellants' application for derivative residence cards is contrary to the Regulations. They plainly satisfy the following criteria under paragraph 4A of section 15A of those Regulations:
a. The Appellants are the primary carers of their British citizen children, who are 16 and 14 years old. See, by way of example, [5] of Mr EEA witness statement.
b. Their British citizen children reside in the UK. See, by way of example, BT's confirmation of school attendance at [A/23].
c. Their British citizen children would be "unable to reside in the UK or another EEA State if[the Appellants] were required to leave. " Any suggestion that these children would remain in the UK without their parents is fanciful.
15. Any preference on the part of the Respondent for an Appellant to apply by a different route first is irrelevant. Section 15A of the Regulations contains no proviso that a human rights application (e.g. by way of Appendix FM) be made before an application under the Zambrano route.
16. The Court is bound to consider the best interests of the family's children, whether by operation of section 55 of the Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Act 2009 or the citation of Chavez-Vilchez cited above at [11]. This strongly militates in favour of a grant of derivative residence to their parents.
17. Further, it is by no means certain that an application under Appendix FM could be made, or would succeed. There are clear practical obstacles in the making of an application as set out in [17-8] of Mr EEA's witness statement. Even if such an application were to be made, it is entirely uncertain that it would be granted by the Respondent.
18. In any event, the change to the Policy is at odds with the judgment in Patel itself. At [42], Irwin LJ considered the Secretary of State' s submission which emphasised that an appellant in Patel had never made an application for leave to remain in the UK on family life grounds. The Court' s response was unequivocal
"I pause to remark that such an application might well be open to him. We have seen material in the course of the case which niight well be relevant to such an application, although it cannot bear upon the decision we must take.
19. It follows that the application of the Policy in this case is not contrary just to Zambrano and the Regulations. It is contrary to the case which inspired it
Conclusion

20. The Court is respectfully invited to allow the appeal.


OCTOBER 2019

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Catalley09 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:56 am

i have just cheked the view my status on euss (view and prove your status on gov.uk) my application has been REFUSED and was done on the 9th January 2021 and l have had no correspondence from HO, AND BEEN ON THE CALL WITH THEM FOR 2 HOURS and they could not see the refusal or anything and when l explained to them its 17days post decision and even if l have 14 days to reply or 28day to reply then l wont be able to appeal. l am so angry right now and feel like crying coz this is playing with someone's mental health.

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