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Use this section for any queries concerning the EU Settlement Scheme, for applicants holding pre-settled and settled status.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Ngoo » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:59 am

snooky wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 pm
High Court finds the EU Settlement Scheme rules for Zambrano carers unlawful.

R (Akinsanya) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2021] EWHC 1535 (Admin),

My advise to all who applied for zambrano before 31 December 2020 should reapply and invoke this high court judgement.

If you guys sit thinking HO will be writing to you to ask you guys to resubmit will be a dream which will never come through.

Bear in mind that HO can appeal this to deter people applying. Irrespective of their shenanigans, putting in your reapplication and letting them know of their discrimination towards you from the onset will let you stay in the game past 30 June 2020.

From the unreported cases which ruled HO policy and guidance unlawful to this, you guys now have the power especially those who identified themselves as zambrano before the end of the eea rules.

With me snooky, I saw this loophole in the EEA REG 16 7A long time and used it for so many people. As far as the former HO Secretaries refused to amend it through parliament and left it as it was then any guidance was to be treated null and void.

LTR isn't an exempt stay and thus comes under PSIC . 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996.

HO grammar has killed them like highe seat which killed miss Thomas' cat and also the greedy dog loses its bone.

The court has spoken and spoke very well.

Regards
@ Snooky, this is good news for all Zambrano carers . Best of luck to all the people that are still waiting and those that need to reapply. Keep going by God’s grace you will all get there.

So Snooky, with the present situation must you have an EEA card to apply as a Zambrano carer? That’s for either refused Zambrano carer or first timer. Remain blessed.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:26 am

Ngoo wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:59 am
snooky wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 pm
High Court finds the EU Settlement Scheme rules for Zambrano carers unlawful.

R (Akinsanya) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2021] EWHC 1535 (Admin),

My advise to all who applied for zambrano before 31 December 2020 should reapply and invoke this high court judgement.

If you guys sit thinking HO will be writing to you to ask you guys to resubmit will be a dream which will never come through.

Bear in mind that HO can appeal this to deter people applying. Irrespective of their shenanigans, putting in your reapplication and letting them know of their discrimination towards you from the onset will let you stay in the game past 30 June 2020.

From the unreported cases which ruled HO policy and guidance unlawful to this, you guys now have the power especially those who identified themselves as zambrano before the end of the eea rules.

With me snooky, I saw this loophole in the EEA REG 16 7A long time and used it for so many people. As far as the former HO Secretaries refused to amend it through parliament and left it as it was then any guidance was to be treated null and void.

LTR isn't an exempt stay and thus comes under PSIC . 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996.

HO grammar has killed them like highe seat which killed miss Thomas' cat and also the greedy dog loses its bone.

The court has spoken and spoke very well.

Regards
@ Snooky, this is good news for all Zambrano carers . Best of luck to all the people that are still waiting and those that need to reapply. Keep going by God’s grace you will all get there.

So Snooky, with the present situation must you have an EEA card to apply as a Zambrano carer? That’s for either refused Zambrano carer or first timer. Remain blessed.

So Snooky, with the present situation must you have an EEA card to apply as a Zambrano carer? That’s for either refused Zambrano carer or first timer. Remain blessed.
[/quote]

You do not and has never be part of any promulgated laws from parliament.

HO played a good chess game with all zambrano people and the weak heart gave up, the lawyers as I have most time lashed them were not interested to use their knowledge of law to salvage the situation and lawyers helped HO to circulat fake news and pit fear in people

When I first ask people to bang in applications both eea and euss zambrano, lawyers disagreed with me and and called me reckless including those with LTR.

But the laws were clear. Laws supercedes guidance and trust me most people hear have got their ILR through their braveness .

You do not need to have a EEA card before you qualify as in Senneh vs SSWP ruling.

But this ruling really affect those who applied before we left the EU and the implementation period.

Now there's a case against the HO to extend the euss for zambrano people as they were not allowed to apply due to HO misinformation

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:54 am

Miss-Suz wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:20 pm
snooky wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 pm
High Court finds the EU Settlement Scheme rules for Zambrano carers unlawful.

R (Akinsanya) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2021] EWHC 1535 (Admin),

My advise to all who applied for zambrano before 31 December 2020 should reapply and invoke this high court judgement.

If you guys sit thinking HO will be writing to you to ask you guys to resubmit will be a dream which will never come through.

Bear in mind that HO can appeal this to deter people applying. Irrespective of their shenanigans, putting in your reapplication and letting them know of their discrimination towards you from the onset will let you stay in the game past 30 June 2020.

From the unreported cases which ruled HO policy and guidance unlawful to this, you guys now have the power especially those who identified themselves as zambrano before the end of the eea rules.

With me snooky, I saw this loophole in the EEA REG 16 7A long time and used it for so many people. As far as the former HO Secretaries refused to amend it through parliament and left it as it was then any guidance was to be treated null and void.

LTR isn't an exempt stay and thus comes under PSIC . 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996.

HO grammar has killed them like highe seat which killed miss Thomas' cat and also the greedy dog loses its bone.

The court has spoken and spoke very well.

Regards
This give me confidence! Thank you so much Snooky

Don't be scared about the HO. Be weary about solicitors rather as they are to interpretation laws and test laws but not to be in one mind with the HO.

Most woiod be zambrano people, already zambrano people and LTR zambrano people were let down by lawyers who saw them as poor people.

From the first version of the euss guidance and zambrano guidance to the sixth version, all were clear and good until HO saw the fall of the national pot was running law due to few people applying for LTR then inserted that toxic legally enormous word to deter people.

I will be posting further stuff and how things are now and would caution people receiving presettled status now.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by LULUBABY » Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:06 am

snooky wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:26 am
Ngoo wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:59 am
snooky wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 pm
High Court finds the EU Settlement Scheme rules for Zambrano carers unlawful.

R (Akinsanya) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2021] EWHC 1535 (Admin),

My advise to all who applied for zambrano before 31 December 2020 should reapply and invoke this high court judgement.

If you guys sit thinking HO will be writing to you to ask you guys to resubmit will be a dream which will never come through.

Bear in mind that HO can appeal this to deter people applying. Irrespective of their shenanigans, putting in your reapplication and letting them know of their discrimination towards you from the onset will let you stay in the game past 30 June 2020.

From the unreported cases which ruled HO policy and guidance unlawful to this, you guys now have the power especially those who identified themselves as zambrano before the end of the eea rules.

With me snooky, I saw this loophole in the EEA REG 16 7A long time and used it for so many people. As far as the former HO Secretaries refused to amend it through parliament and left it as it was then any guidance was to be treated null and void.

LTR isn't an exempt stay and thus comes under PSIC . 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996.

HO grammar has killed them like highe seat which killed miss Thomas' cat and also the greedy dog loses its bone.

The court has spoken and spoke very well.

Regards
@ Snooky, this is good news for all Zambrano carers . Best of luck to all the people that are still waiting and those that need to reapply. Keep going by God’s grace you will all get there.

So Snooky, with the present situation must you have an EEA card to apply as a Zambrano carer? That’s for either refused Zambrano carer or first timer. Remain blessed.

So Snooky, with the present situation must you have an EEA card to apply as a Zambrano carer? That’s for either refused Zambrano carer or first timer. Remain blessed.
You do not and has never be part of any promulgated laws from parliament.

HO played a good chess game with all zambrano people and the weak heart gave up, the lawyers as I have most time lashed them were not interested to use their knowledge of law to salvage the situation and lawyers helped HO to circulat fake news and pit fear in people

When I first ask people to bang in applications both eea and euss zambrano, lawyers disagreed with me and and called me reckless including those with LTR.

But the laws were clear. Laws supercedes guidance and trust me most people hear have got their ILR through their braveness .

You do not need to have a EEA card before you qualify as in Senneh vs SSWP ruling.

But this ruling really affect those who applied before we left the EU and the implementation period.

Now there's a case against the HO to extend the euss for zambrano people as they were not allowed to apply due to HO misinformation
[/quote]

Honestly Snooky, HO scored an own goal. HO has been dismantled into pieces and the bits piled into a heap. The Judge's analysis and choice of words - CLASSIC.

The Judge spoke for us all. Snooky remember when my LTR was expiring and we were all hoping they will keep delaying so I can qualify based on the guidance?. It then expired and you were like good, they have no option now but to give it to me, but to everybody's greatest shock they refused.

Paragraph 53 of that Judgement was my scenario, I have been reading it over and over again.

We have been saying it on this forum that a Zambrano carer is a Zambrano carer with or without a derivative card or LTR.

This Judgement is an OMG! piece.

That HO lawyer said he couldn't read what I wrote, I was making no sense, he was struggling to understand what point I was making. Fast forward June 9, 2021... In your face!. Who is having the last laugh?.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Miss-Suz » Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:35 am

snooky wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:54 am
Miss-Suz wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:20 pm
snooky wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 pm
High Court finds the EU Settlement Scheme rules for Zambrano carers unlawful.

R (Akinsanya) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2021] EWHC 1535 (Admin),

My advise to all who applied for zambrano before 31 December 2020 should reapply and invoke this high court judgement.

If you guys sit thinking HO will be writing to you to ask you guys to resubmit will be a dream which will never come through.

Bear in mind that HO can appeal this to deter people applying. Irrespective of their shenanigans, putting in your reapplication and letting them know of their discrimination towards you from the onset will let you stay in the game past 30 June 2020.

From the unreported cases which ruled HO policy and guidance unlawful to this, you guys now have the power especially those who identified themselves as zambrano before the end of the eea rules.

With me snooky, I saw this loophole in the EEA REG 16 7A long time and used it for so many people. As far as the former HO Secretaries refused to amend it through parliament and left it as it was then any guidance was to be treated null and void.

LTR isn't an exempt stay and thus comes under PSIC . 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996.

HO grammar has killed them like highe seat which killed miss Thomas' cat and also the greedy dog loses its bone.

The court has spoken and spoke very well.

Regards
This give me confidence! Thank you so much Snooky

Don't be scared about the HO. Be weary about solicitors as they are to interpretation laws and test laws but not to be in one mind with the HO.

Most woiod be zambrano people, already zambrano people and LTR zambrano people were let down by lawyers who saw them as poor people.

From the first version of the euss guidance and zambrano guidance to the sixth version, all were clear and good until HO saw the fall of the national pot was running law due to few people applying for LTR then inserted that toxic legally enormous word to deter people.

I will be posting further stuff and how things are now and would caution people receiving presettled status now.
Oh my God!
You were right all this time Snooky! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
And thank you for everything.

“Don't be scared about the HO. Be weary about solicitors as they are to interpretation laws and test laws but not to be in one mind with the HO.”

You said it all Snooky!! Thanks a million


I remember few years ago when HO refused my permanent residence card. My solicitor at that time told me to not apply for derivative residence card as this type of application takes longer to get a decision, and that I would loose my job because with this route they will not provide me with a COA. Instead he advised me to apply for LTR, that was in 2018 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Miss-Suz » Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:43 am

Miss-Suz wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:35 am
snooky wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:54 am
Miss-Suz wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:20 pm
snooky wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 pm
High Court finds the EU Settlement Scheme rules for Zambrano carers unlawful.

R (Akinsanya) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2021] EWHC 1535 (Admin),

My advise to all who applied for zambrano before 31 December 2020 should reapply and invoke this high court judgement.

If you guys sit thinking HO will be writing to you to ask you guys to resubmit will be a dream which will never come through.

Bear in mind that HO can appeal this to deter people applying. Irrespective of their shenanigans, putting in your reapplication and letting them know of their discrimination towards you from the onset will let you stay in the game past 30 June 2020.

From the unreported cases which ruled HO policy and guidance unlawful to this, you guys now have the power especially those who identified themselves as zambrano before the end of the eea rules.

With me snooky, I saw this loophole in the EEA REG 16 7A long time and used it for so many people. As far as the former HO Secretaries refused to amend it through parliament and left it as it was then any guidance was to be treated null and void.

LTR isn't an exempt stay and thus comes under PSIC . 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996.

HO grammar has killed them like highe seat which killed miss Thomas' cat and also the greedy dog loses its bone.

The court has spoken and spoke very well.

Regards
This give me confidence! Thank you so much Snooky

Don't be scared about the HO. Be weary about solicitors as they are to interpretation laws and test laws but not to be in one mind with the HO.

Most woiod be zambrano people, already zambrano people and LTR zambrano people were let down by lawyers who saw them as poor people.

From the first version of the euss guidance and zambrano guidance to the sixth version, all were clear and good until HO saw the fall of the national pot was running law due to few people applying for LTR then inserted that toxic legally enormous word to deter people.

I will be posting further stuff and how things are now and would caution people receiving presettled status now.
Oh my God!
You were right all this time Snooky! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
And thank you for everything.

“Don't be scared about the HO. Be weary about solicitors as they are to interpretation laws and test laws but not to be in one mind with the HO.”

You said it all Snooky!! Thanks a million


I remember few years ago when HO refused my permanent residence card. My solicitor at that time told me to not apply for derivative residence card as this type of application takes longer to get a decision, and that I would loose my job because with this route they will not provide me with a COA. Instead he advised me to apply for LTR, that was in 2018 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️
I did not follow his advice until early 2019 but a month after I applied for LTR I also applied for EUSS Zambrano. Thankfully after 10 months the HO asked me to choose. And I choose EUSS as anyone else would do. What they did then, refused me after 18 months of wait, arguing that because I did not make LTR application, that I am not qualified for Zambrano. Just ridiculous.
They were thinking that I would get discouraged, they don’t know me well. I applied straight away for DRF1.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Ngoo » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:48 pm

snooky wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:54 am
Miss-Suz wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:20 pm
snooky wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 pm
High Court finds the EU Settlement Scheme rules for Zambrano carers unlawful.

R (Akinsanya) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2021] EWHC 1535 (Admin),

My advise to all who applied for zambrano before 31 December 2020 should reapply and invoke this high court judgement.

If you guys sit thinking HO will be writing to you to ask you guys to resubmit will be a dream which will never come through.

Bear in mind that HO can appeal this to deter people applying. Irrespective of their shenanigans, putting in your reapplication and letting them know of their discrimination towards you from the onset will let you stay in the game past 30 June 2020.

From the unreported cases which ruled HO policy and guidance unlawful to this, you guys now have the power especially those who identified themselves as zambrano before the end of the eea rules.

With me snooky, I saw this loophole in the EEA REG 16 7A long time and used it for so many people. As far as the former HO Secretaries refused to amend it through parliament and left it as it was then any guidance was to be treated null and void.

LTR isn't an exempt stay and thus comes under PSIC . 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996.

HO grammar has killed them like highe seat which killed miss Thomas' cat and also the greedy dog loses its bone.

The court has spoken and spoke very well.

Regards
This give me confidence! Thank you so much Snooky

Don't be scared about the HO. Be weary about solicitors rather as they are to interpretation laws and test laws but not to be in one mind with the HO.

Most woiod be zambrano people, already zambrano people and LTR zambrano people were let down by lawyers who saw them as poor people.

From the first version of the euss guidance and zambrano guidance to the sixth version, all were clear and good until HO saw the fall of the national pot was running law due to few people applying for LTR then inserted that toxic legally enormous word to deter people.

I will be posting further stuff and how things are now and would caution people receiving presettled status now.
@ Snooky, thank you for all the support. Honestly, this guys are modern day bullies in office 😡. My prayer is for everyone to get what they are fighting for... and to never give up.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Ngoo » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:51 pm

LULUBABY wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:06 am
snooky wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:26 am
Ngoo wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:59 am
snooky wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 pm
High Court finds the EU Settlement Scheme rules for Zambrano carers unlawful.

R (Akinsanya) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2021] EWHC 1535 (Admin),

My advise to all who applied for zambrano before 31 December 2020 should reapply and invoke this high court judgement.

If you guys sit thinking HO will be writing to you to ask you guys to resubmit will be a dream which will never come through.

Bear in mind that HO can appeal this to deter people applying. Irrespective of their shenanigans, putting in your reapplication and letting them know of their discrimination towards you from the onset will let you stay in the game past 30 June 2020.

From the unreported cases which ruled HO policy and guidance unlawful to this, you guys now have the power especially those who identified themselves as zambrano before the end of the eea rules.

With me snooky, I saw this loophole in the EEA REG 16 7A long time and used it for so many people. As far as the former HO Secretaries refused to amend it through parliament and left it as it was then any guidance was to be treated null and void.

LTR isn't an exempt stay and thus comes under PSIC . 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996.

HO grammar has killed them like highe seat which killed miss Thomas' cat and also the greedy dog loses its bone.

The court has spoken and spoke very well.

Regards
@ Snooky, this is good news for all Zambrano carers . Best of luck to all the people that are still waiting and those that need to reapply. Keep going by God’s grace you will all get there.

So Snooky, with the present situation must you have an EEA card to apply as a Zambrano carer? That’s for either refused Zambrano carer or first timer. Remain blessed.

So Snooky, with the present situation must you have an EEA card to apply as a Zambrano carer? That’s for either refused Zambrano carer or first timer. Remain blessed.
You do not and has never be part of any promulgated laws from parliament.

HO played a good chess game with all zambrano people and the weak heart gave up, the lawyers as I have most time lashed them were not interested to use their knowledge of law to salvage the situation and lawyers helped HO to circulat fake news and pit fear in people

When I first ask people to bang in applications both eea and euss zambrano, lawyers disagreed with me and and called me reckless including those with LTR.

But the laws were clear. Laws supercedes guidance and trust me most people hear have got their ILR through their braveness .

You do not need to have a EEA card before you qualify as in Senneh vs SSWP ruling.

But this ruling really affect those who applied before we left the EU and the implementation period.

Now there's a case against the HO to extend the euss for zambrano people as they were not allowed to apply due to HO misinformation
Honestly Snooky, HO scored an own goal. HO has been dismantled into pieces and the bits piled into a heap. The Judge's analysis and choice of words - CLASSIC.

The Judge spoke for us all. Snooky remember when my LTR was expiring and we were all hoping they will keep delaying so I can qualify based on the guidance?. It then expired and you were like good, they have no option now but to give it to me, but to everybody's greatest shock they refused.

Paragraph 53 of that Judgement was my scenario, I have been reading it over and over again.

We have been saying it on this forum that a Zambrano carer is a Zambrano carer with or without a derivative card or LTR.

This Judgement is an OMG! piece.

That HO lawyer said he couldn't read what I wrote, I was making no sense, he was struggling to understand what point I was making. Fast forward June 9, 2021... In your face!. Who is having the last laugh?.
[/quote]

@Lulubaby, hope you’re doing well! Keep going you are almost there. I am so proud of you and many others on this forum. You all are warriors!

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by LULUBABY » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:19 pm

UPDATE: I received this email from the HO

Dear Sirs,

I write further to the attached Order of Upper Tribunal Judge Xxxxxxxxxxxx.

In compliance with paragraph 1 of the directions, the Respondent attaches a copy of the written judgment and order in Akinsanya which was handed down on 9 June 2021.

The Applicant has been copied-in by way of service.

Kind regards

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by LULUBABY » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:20 pm

Ngoo wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:51 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:06 am
snooky wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:26 am
Ngoo wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:59 am
snooky wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 pm
High Court finds the EU Settlement Scheme rules for Zambrano carers unlawful.

R (Akinsanya) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2021] EWHC 1535 (Admin),

My advise to all who applied for zambrano before 31 December 2020 should reapply and invoke this high court judgement.

If you guys sit thinking HO will be writing to you to ask you guys to resubmit will be a dream which will never come through.

Bear in mind that HO can appeal this to deter people applying. Irrespective of their shenanigans, putting in your reapplication and letting them know of their discrimination towards you from the onset will let you stay in the game past 30 June 2020.

From the unreported cases which ruled HO policy and guidance unlawful to this, you guys now have the power especially those who identified themselves as zambrano before the end of the eea rules.

With me snooky, I saw this loophole in the EEA REG 16 7A long time and used it for so many people. As far as the former HO Secretaries refused to amend it through parliament and left it as it was then any guidance was to be treated null and void.

LTR isn't an exempt stay and thus comes under PSIC . 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996.

HO grammar has killed them like highe seat which killed miss Thomas' cat and also the greedy dog loses its bone.

The court has spoken and spoke very well.

Regards
@ Snooky, this is good news for all Zambrano carers . Best of luck to all the people that are still waiting and those that need to reapply. Keep going by God’s grace you will all get there.

So Snooky, with the present situation must you have an EEA card to apply as a Zambrano carer? That’s for either refused Zambrano carer or first timer. Remain blessed.

So Snooky, with the present situation must you have an EEA card to apply as a Zambrano carer? That’s for either refused Zambrano carer or first timer. Remain blessed.
You do not and has never be part of any promulgated laws from parliament.

HO played a good chess game with all zambrano people and the weak heart gave up, the lawyers as I have most time lashed them were not interested to use their knowledge of law to salvage the situation and lawyers helped HO to circulat fake news and pit fear in people

When I first ask people to bang in applications both eea and euss zambrano, lawyers disagreed with me and and called me reckless including those with LTR.

But the laws were clear. Laws supercedes guidance and trust me most people hear have got their ILR through their braveness .

You do not need to have a EEA card before you qualify as in Senneh vs SSWP ruling.

But this ruling really affect those who applied before we left the EU and the implementation period.

Now there's a case against the HO to extend the euss for zambrano people as they were not allowed to apply due to HO misinformation
Honestly Snooky, HO scored an own goal. HO has been dismantled into pieces and the bits piled into a heap. The Judge's analysis and choice of words - CLASSIC.

The Judge spoke for us all. Snooky remember when my LTR was expiring and we were all hoping they will keep delaying so I can qualify based on the guidance?. It then expired and you were like good, they have no option now but to give it to me, but to everybody's greatest shock they refused.

Paragraph 53 of that Judgement was my scenario, I have been reading it over and over again.

We have been saying it on this forum that a Zambrano carer is a Zambrano carer with or without a derivative card or LTR.

This Judgement is an OMG! piece.

That HO lawyer said he couldn't read what I wrote, I was making no sense, he was struggling to understand what point I was making. Fast forward June 9, 2021... In your face!. Who is having the last laugh?.
@Lulubaby, hope you’re doing well! Keep going you are almost there. I am so proud of you and many others on this forum. You all are warriors!
[/quote]

Thanks Ngoo.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Obie » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:25 pm

LULUBABY wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:19 pm
UPDATE: I received this email from the HO

Dear Sirs,

I write further to the attached Order of Upper Tribunal Judge Xxxxxxxxxxxx.

In compliance with paragraph 1 of the directions, the Respondent attaches a copy of the written judgment and order in Akinsanya which was handed down on 9 June 2021.

The Applicant has been copied-in by way of service.

Kind regards
Did they indicate if they intend to appeal?

I gathered the SSHD will be filing an appellant notice to the COA, but they could change their mind any time.
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by LULUBABY » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:34 pm

Obie wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:25 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:19 pm
UPDATE: I received this email from the HO

Dear Sirs,

I write further to the attached Order of Upper Tribunal Judge Xxxxxxxxxxxx.

In compliance with paragraph 1 of the directions, the Respondent attaches a copy of the written judgment and order in Akinsanya which was handed down on 9 June 2021.

The Applicant has been copied-in by way of service.

Kind regards
Did they indicate if they intend to appeal?

I gathered the SSHD will be filing an appellant notice to the COA, but they could change their mind any time.
No, they didn't indicate. That is the entire email. Quite brief and straight to the point, compared to previous ones I receive from them.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Obie » Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:00 pm

I did not know the court advised them to file the High Court decision. I will not be surprised if they tell the tribunal that the High Court decision was wrong.

However, unlike the High Court which can strike out legislation, the Upper Tribunal has no such power, as far as i know.

I really cannot see how the Home Office can appeal the decision, other than adopting Donald Trump's approach, by saying they could not have had a fair hearing as the Judge was born and raised in Nigeria, and therefore biased towards a Nigerian claimant. At least they will need to identify some error of law first.
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by LULUBABY » Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:18 pm

snooky wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:54 am
Miss-Suz wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:20 pm
snooky wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 pm
High Court finds the EU Settlement Scheme rules for Zambrano carers unlawful.

R (Akinsanya) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2021] EWHC 1535 (Admin),

My advise to all who applied for zambrano before 31 December 2020 should reapply and invoke this high court judgement.

If you guys sit thinking HO will be writing to you to ask you guys to resubmit will be a dream which will never come through.

Bear in mind that HO can appeal this to deter people applying. Irrespective of their shenanigans, putting in your reapplication and letting them know of their discrimination towards you from the onset will let you stay in the game past 30 June 2020.

From the unreported cases which ruled HO policy and guidance unlawful to this, you guys now have the power especially those who identified themselves as zambrano before the end of the eea rules.

With me snooky, I saw this loophole in the EEA REG 16 7A long time and used it for so many people. As far as the former HO Secretaries refused to amend it through parliament and left it as it was then any guidance was to be treated null and void.

LTR isn't an exempt stay and thus comes under PSIC . 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996.

HO grammar has killed them like highe seat which killed miss Thomas' cat and also the greedy dog loses its bone.

The court has spoken and spoke very well.

Regards
This give me confidence! Thank you so much Snooky

Don't be scared about the HO. Be weary about solicitors rather as they are to interpretation laws and test laws but not to be in one mind with the HO.

Most woiod be zambrano people, already zambrano people and LTR zambrano people were let down by lawyers who saw them as poor people.

From the first version of the euss guidance and zambrano guidance to the sixth version, all were clear and good until HO saw the fall of the national pot was running law due to few people applying for LTR then inserted that toxic legally enormous word to deter people.

I will be posting further stuff and how things are now and would caution people receiving presettled status now.
Mere words can never ever be enough to show my gratitude to you Snooky. You will not understand Snooky, you will not understand. If not for you Snooky.... Rewind December 2019, I had no clue, fast forward 2021, I stick like Gorrilla Glue.

Thank God for this forum, the long suffering Moderators, at one point, I thought I had lost it all. Obie, you encouraged me, just at the right time. Just at the right time.

The members....., it always feels like we are talking to each other... Family.

I don't know about tomorrow but as at this moment, I have enough reason to say 'Thank you'. The heart does not forget.

It's so sad Immigration boards.com has no address not even to send Flowers to. I knew as per .com it was online but not online to this extent.

Thank you so much. I really appreciate.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by LULUBABY » Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:26 pm

IT IS DIRECTED

(1) The respondent is to provide the applicant and the Tribunal with the written judgment and order in Akinsanya no later than 7 days after the judgment is handed down.


(2) The respondent is to inform the applicant and the Tribunal within 7 days if proceedings in Akinsanya are settled prior to the handing down of judgment.

(3) The respondent, if so advised, is to file and serve supplementary grounds of defence in response to the applicant’s grounds of renewal, no later than 14 days after judgment is handed down in Akinsanya.

(4) Liberty for the parties to apply, on 48 hours notice.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:01 pm

LULUBABY wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:19 pm
UPDATE: I received this email from the HO

Dear Sirs,

I write further to the attached Order of Upper Tribunal Judge Xxxxxxxxxxxx.

In compliance with paragraph 1 of the directions, the Respondent attaches a copy of the written judgment and order in Akinsanya which was handed down on 9 June 2021.

The Applicant has been copied-in by way of service.

Kind regards
LULUBABY

Trust me HO will settle with this Judgement as it is easier for them.

As Obie is saying, it would be hard for them to get the appeal through.

Cheer up, your time is up to grab your Leave under the euss

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Obie » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:09 pm

It is interesting that Zewdu was not mentioned. It appears to deal with issue similar to this, but the Home Office did not say it was wrongly decided.
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:25 pm

LULUBABY wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:26 pm
IT IS DIRECTED

(1) The respondent is to provide the applicant and the Tribunal with the written judgment and order in Akinsanya no later than 7 days after the judgment is handed down.


(2) The respondent is to inform the applicant and the Tribunal within 7 days if proceedings in Akinsanya are settled prior to the handing down of judgment.

(3) The respondent, if so advised, is to file and serve supplementary grounds of defence in response to the applicant’s grounds of renewal, no later than 14 days after judgment is handed down in Akinsanya.

(4) Liberty for the parties to apply, on 48 hours notice.
LULUBABY

We are our neighbours' keepers and soldiers fighting injustices which is called positive-discrimination.

Remember also Judge Neville who trashed the HO on 20 January 2020 as he also saw the incompatibility of the guidance with the law.

Though is ftt unreported case, the High Court judges will take a cue and study its approach as Neville is a professional learned Judge.

All what the courts want to hear from the HO Secretary that the decision of the High Court would be respected and as soon as practicable, their guidance would be changed so that your case would be over

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:41 pm

Ngoo wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:48 pm
snooky wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:54 am
Miss-Suz wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:20 pm
snooky wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 pm
High Court finds the EU Settlement Scheme rules for Zambrano carers unlawful.

R (Akinsanya) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2021] EWHC 1535 (Admin),

My advise to all who applied for zambrano before 31 December 2020 should reapply and invoke this high court judgement.

If you guys sit thinking HO will be writing to you to ask you guys to resubmit will be a dream which will never come through.

Bear in mind that HO can appeal this to deter people applying. Irrespective of their shenanigans, putting in your reapplication and letting them know of their discrimination towards you from the onset will let you stay in the game past 30 June 2020.

From the unreported cases which ruled HO policy and guidance unlawful to this, you guys now have the power especially those who identified themselves as zambrano before the end of the eea rules.

With me snooky, I saw this loophole in the EEA REG 16 7A long time and used it for so many people. As far as the former HO Secretaries refused to amend it through parliament and left it as it was then any guidance was to be treated null and void.

LTR isn't an exempt stay and thus comes under PSIC . 13(2) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996.

HO grammar has killed them like highe seat which killed miss Thomas' cat and also the greedy dog loses its bone.

The court has spoken and spoke very well.

Regards
This give me confidence! Thank you so much Snooky

Don't be scared about the HO. Be weary about solicitors rather as they are to interpretation laws and test laws but not to be in one mind with the HO.

Most woiod be zambrano people, already zambrano people and LTR zambrano people were let down by lawyers who saw them as poor people.

From the first version of the euss guidance and zambrano guidance to the sixth version, all were clear and good until HO saw the fall of the national pot was running law due to few people applying for LTR then inserted that toxic legally enormous word to deter people.

I will be posting further stuff and how things are now and would caution people receiving presettled status now.
@ Snooky, thank you for all the support. Honestly, this guys are modern day bullies in office 😡. My prayer is for everyone to get what they are fighting for... and to never give up.
HO and their lawyers are the new Bonny and Clyde. You have to be smart too to know their ways

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:17 pm

Obie wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:09 pm
It is interesting that Zewdu was not mentioned. It appears to deal with issue similar to this, but the Home Office did not say it was wrongly decided.
You are right Obie. I am sure sooner or later when sshd has made its mind up of not appealing the ruling, some clever solicitors will now counter sue in line with
The case of Hana Zewdu v SSHD

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by ravindra121 » Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:01 am

LULUBABY wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:40 pm
ravindra121 wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:55 am
I have applied for zambrano with british child and left UK on last July 2020 while application under processing. application been refused and didn't even apply for administrative review.
Now I'm in Sri Lanka and my british son who is 6 years old doesnt like to stay here.

My question
is there anyway that I could apply for the same route from outside UK or any other route to come in to the UK with my family. ( I have 2 more children who born in UK, but they not british, Me and my wife are Sri Lankans, 1st child british under stateless route)

Thank you
snooky wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 8:34 pm
@ravindra121

Hi according to the Home Office, you do not currently have Leave to Remain in the UK so you can't travel out and come in.

Should you have Leave to Remain, them during your Zambrano EUSS application consideration, you could travel in and out of UK. This is because EUSS actually legality of proof will start from 1 July 2021.

Now for the checks that HO do, actually no one knows which checks HO carries out. But the clue is in their guidance.

1. Eligibility 2. Suitability 3. Evidential Documents, 4. False Representation, 5. Good Character, 6. Dependency and Responsibilities, 7. Public Health, 8. Other Factors.

Your application could be answered within 10 months due to experience and what we have seen over here.

Hope this will help u. But be careful, do not travel as you have no leave to remain
Hello Ravindra, I was just going through your previous posts and saw this reply to you from Snooky when you stated that you needed to travel. Oh dear, why did you travel?.
Im afraid I had to travel for some reasons. Is there anyway I could use my child's citizenship to come back

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by LULUBABY » Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:04 am

ravindra121 wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:01 am
LULUBABY wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:40 pm
ravindra121 wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:55 am
I have applied for zambrano with british child and left UK on last July 2020 while application under processing. application been refused and didn't even apply for administrative review.
Now I'm in Sri Lanka and my british son who is 6 years old doesnt like to stay here.

My question
is there anyway that I could apply for the same route from outside UK or any other route to come in to the UK with my family. ( I have 2 more children who born in UK, but they not british, Me and my wife are Sri Lankans, 1st child british under stateless route)

Thank you
snooky wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 8:34 pm
@ravindra121

Hi according to the Home Office, you do not currently have Leave to Remain in the UK so you can't travel out and come in.

Should you have Leave to Remain, them during your Zambrano EUSS application consideration, you could travel in and out of UK. This is because EUSS actually legality of proof will start from 1 July 2021.

Now for the checks that HO do, actually no one knows which checks HO carries out. But the clue is in their guidance.

1. Eligibility 2. Suitability 3. Evidential Documents, 4. False Representation, 5. Good Character, 6. Dependency and Responsibilities, 7. Public Health, 8. Other Factors.

Your application could be answered within 10 months due to experience and what we have seen over here.

Hope this will help u. But be careful, do not travel as you have no leave to remain
Hello Ravindra, I was just going through your previous posts and saw this reply to you from Snooky when you stated that you needed to travel. Oh dear, why did you travel?.
Im afraid I had to travel for some reasons. Is there anyway I could use my child's citizenship to come back
Please Snooky, what do you think?.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by snooky » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:36 pm

LULUBABY wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:04 am
ravindra121 wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:01 am
LULUBABY wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:40 pm
ravindra121 wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:55 am
I have applied for zambrano with british child and left UK on last July 2020 while application under processing. application been refused and didn't even apply for administrative review.
Now I'm in Sri Lanka and my british son who is 6 years old doesnt like to stay here.

My question
is there anyway that I could apply for the same route from outside UK or any other route to come in to the UK with my family. ( I have 2 more children who born in UK, but they not british, Me and my wife are Sri Lankans, 1st child british under stateless route)

Thank you
snooky wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 8:34 pm
@ravindra121

Hi according to the Home Office, you do not currently have Leave to Remain in the UK so you can't travel out and come in.

Should you have Leave to Remain, them during your Zambrano EUSS application consideration, you could travel in and out of UK. This is because EUSS actually legality of proof will start from 1 July 2021.

Now for the checks that HO do, actually no one knows which checks HO carries out. But the clue is in their guidance.

1. Eligibility 2. Suitability 3. Evidential Documents, 4. False Representation, 5. Good Character, 6. Dependency and Responsibilities, 7. Public Health, 8. Other Factors.

Your application could be answered within 10 months due to experience and what we have seen over here.

Hope this will help u. But be careful, do not travel as you have no leave to remain
Hello Ravindra, I was just going through your previous posts and saw this reply to you from Snooky when you stated that you needed to travel. Oh dear, why did you travel?.
Im afraid I had to travel for some reasons. Is there anyway I could use my child's citizenship to come back
Please Snooky, what do you think?.
LULUBABY

If you could remember, months ago, I told a lady she could apply for zambrano as out country( entry clearance) as she was outside.

If she is still outside, she can invoke zambrano jurisprudence as there's no law stopping anyone in reg 16 and or appendix eu to apply for zambrano whilst outside the country.

Again she revisit her appeal as far as she got good grounds for appealing late.

Anything HO guidance says and not in accordance to the law is illegal and unlawful and can be challenged

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by LULUBABY » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:00 pm

snooky wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:36 pm
LULUBABY wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:04 am
ravindra121 wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:01 am
LULUBABY wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:40 pm
ravindra121 wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:55 am
I have applied for zambrano with british child and left UK on last July 2020 while application under processing. application been refused and didn't even apply for administrative review.
Now I'm in Sri Lanka and my british son who is 6 years old doesnt like to stay here.

My question
is there anyway that I could apply for the same route from outside UK or any other route to come in to the UK with my family. ( I have 2 more children who born in UK, but they not british, Me and my wife are Sri Lankans, 1st child british under stateless route)

Thank you
snooky wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 8:34 pm
@ravindra121

Hi according to the Home Office, you do not currently have Leave to Remain in the UK so you can't travel out and come in.

Should you have Leave to Remain, them during your Zambrano EUSS application consideration, you could travel in and out of UK. This is because EUSS actually legality of proof will start from 1 July 2021.

Now for the checks that HO do, actually no one knows which checks HO carries out. But the clue is in their guidance.

1. Eligibility 2. Suitability 3. Evidential Documents, 4. False Representation, 5. Good Character, 6. Dependency and Responsibilities, 7. Public Health, 8. Other Factors.

Your application could be answered within 10 months due to experience and what we have seen over here.

Hope this will help u. But be careful, do not travel as you have no leave to remain
Hello Ravindra, I was just going through your previous posts and saw this reply to you from Snooky when you stated that you needed to travel. Oh dear, why did you travel?.
Im afraid I had to travel for some reasons. Is there anyway I could use my child's citizenship to come back
Please Snooky, what do you think?.
LULUBABY

If you could remember, months ago, I told a lady she could apply for zambrano as out country( entry clearance) as she was outside.

If she is still outside, she can invoke zambrano jurisprudence as there's no law stopping anyone in reg 16 and or appendix eu to apply for zambrano whilst outside the country.

Again she revisit her appeal as far as she got good grounds for appealing late.

Anything HO guidance says and not in accordance to the law is illegal and unlawful and can be challenged
If I remember correctly, that lady's son was here in the U.K. while she was abroad then. From what this member is saying they are stuck abroad with their 6year old British child.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by LULUBABY » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:13 pm

ravindra121 wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:01 am
LULUBABY wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:40 pm
ravindra121 wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:55 am
I have applied for zambrano with british child and left UK on last July 2020 while application under processing. application been refused and didn't even apply for administrative review.
Now I'm in Sri Lanka and my british son who is 6 years old doesnt like to stay here.

My question
is there anyway that I could apply for the same route from outside UK or any other route to come in to the UK with my family. ( I have 2 more children who born in UK, but they not british, Me and my wife are Sri Lankans, 1st child british under stateless route)

Thank you
snooky wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 8:34 pm
@ravindra121

Hi according to the Home Office, you do not currently have Leave to Remain in the UK so you can't travel out and come in.

Should you have Leave to Remain, them during your Zambrano EUSS application consideration, you could travel in and out of UK. This is because EUSS actually legality of proof will start from 1 July 2021.

Now for the checks that HO do, actually no one knows which checks HO carries out. But the clue is in their guidance.

1. Eligibility 2. Suitability 3. Evidential Documents, 4. False Representation, 5. Good Character, 6. Dependency and Responsibilities, 7. Public Health, 8. Other Factors.

Your application could be answered within 10 months due to experience and what we have seen over here.

Hope this will help u. But be careful, do not travel as you have no leave to remain
Hello Ravindra, I was just going through your previous posts and saw this reply to you from Snooky when you stated that you needed to travel. Oh dear, why did you travel?.
Im afraid I had to travel for some reasons. Is there anyway I could use my child's citizenship to come back
Is your child in School or rather was your child in school here in the U.K. before you left?. I ask because you left during the pandemic period and he would have been in reception if not for the lockdown but now he is meant to be in school, year 1, right?.

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