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Lagosbos · Post by **Lagosbos** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:03 pm

Honourable members to my surprise HO is still refusing applications despite the consent order. This is the refusal notice received by my sister-in-law today.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:54 pm

Lagosbos wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:03 pm
Honourable members to my surprise HO is still refusing applications despite the consent order. This is the refusal notice received by my sister-in-law today.

Hello

It is a standard letter given to all people especially those with LTR.

Remember though the Consent Order is there but the HO hasn't changed the guidance and that is the cause of this poor decision.

Most times an appeal would be given so that you can have your shot with Ftt which in this case is there.

They always boldly write, you can have an administration review and in other hand will write also you can appeal at the ftt very little print.

Don't worry, as I keep saying, only the courts can grant you Zambrano as HO isn't following any laws.

Lagosbos · Post by **Lagosbos** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:19 pm

I quite agree with you, but according to paragraph b of that consent order, I wouldn't expect HO to refuse any application affected by the Akisanya case until a review has been completed. That's what's the consent order clearly states.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:50 pm

Lagosbos wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:19 pm
I quite agree with you, but according to paragraph b of that consent order, I wouldn't expect HO to refuse any application affected by the Akisanya case until a review has been completed. That's what's the consent order clearly states.

The mistake HO has done is to even decided the case as per the consent order, all LTR zambrano cases would be on hold until the appeal done and guidance change.

But this is HO. The Lord of laws. As judge Mostyn said in his ruling, the regulations doesn't exclude people with ltr to apply for zambrano.

HO agreed to this but refused because the person couldn't show that their child would be compelled to leave as in Patel vs SSHD 2019, the judge said it isn't theoretical matter.

Comrades the courts will see everyone here through

Lagosbos · Post by **Lagosbos** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:04 pm

Funny enough, they also failed to issue COA before refusing the application.

Nyamebeye · Post by **Nyamebeye** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:53 pm

@Lagosbos,
When did your sister in law apply?

Lagosbos · Post by **Lagosbos** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:06 pm

Nyamebeye wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:53 pm
@Lagosbos,
When did your sister in law apply?

2nd week in may and biometrics was enrolled earlier this month.

Fustrated2019 · Post by **Fustrated2019** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 am

Good morning everyone ,

i had my oral hearing yesterday and the HO asked the judge to dismiss my appeal because I have a pending EUSS application , is that normal? The judge hasnt given a verdict and I said I will receive a decision in the post . I am so scared and confused

.

please can someone shed a light ? Thank You

Fustrated2019 · Post by **Fustrated2019** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:26 am

Lagosbos wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:03 pm
Honourable members to my surprise HO is still refusing applications despite the consent order. This is the refusal notice received by my sister-in-law today.

I am sorry to hear about your sister in law. I hope she is appealing . She must not give up.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:10 pm

Fustrated2019 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 am
Good morning everyone ,

i had my oral hearing yesterday and the HO asked the judge to dismiss my appeal because I have a pending EUSS application , is that normal? The judge hasnt given a verdict and I said I will receive a decision in the post . I am so scared and confused .

please can someone shed a light ? Thank You

Don't be scared.

HO and HOPO was shallow to ask the judge to dismiss your case as you got EUSS pending. Have they forgotten that the two do not vary

The judge wouldn't do that as your right was and is protected before on or 31 December 2020.

As you met the Regulations at that time, don't be afraid of HO intimidation.

They should have come there to argue on point of law not to thwart the Judge's knowledge

There is only three questions under zambrano eea reg 16 to meet.

Is your child a British and under 18
Is the child living in the UK
Are you the primary carer.

If it is ye ye yes then HO can't ask the judge to preclude you. That would be against Article 20 of the TFEU.

Trust the judge

Fustrated2019 · Post by **Fustrated2019** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:48 pm

snooky wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:10 pm

Fustrated2019 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 am
Good morning everyone ,

i had my oral hearing yesterday and the HO asked the judge to dismiss my appeal because I have a pending EUSS application , is that normal? The judge hasnt given a verdict and I said I will receive a decision in the post . I am so scared and confused .

please can someone shed a light ? Thank You

Don't be scared.

HO and HOPO was shallow to ask the judge to dismiss your case as you got EUSS pending. Have they forgotten that the two do not vary

The judge wouldn't do that as your right was and is protected before on or 31 December 2020.

As you met the Regulations at that time, don't be afraid of HO intimidation.

They should have come there to argue on point of law not to thwart the Judge's knowledge

There is only three questions under zambrano eea reg 16 to meet.

Is your child a British and under 18
Is the child living in the UK
Are you the primary carer.

If it is ye ye yes then HO can't ask the judge to preclude you. That would be against Article 20 of the TFEU.

Trust the judge

Thank you snooky. He said I don’t meet reg 16 ( b) where it says someone doesn’t qualify if they have leave to remain . All my arguments went flying and I didn’t say enough to support my case

. The judge did ask me questions to establish if I am a sole carer . The only argument the HO had was that I have leave to remain so I didn’t qualify.

Thank you so much snooky. I will update the thread with any changes

Obie · Post by **Obie** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:55 pm

They are trying to mislead the tribunal at any cost.

If the judge dismiss your appeal under 2016 regulation, no way you can succeed under settlement scheme. So that is misleading.

I faced similar misleading from them 3 weeks ago, the appellant is a single mother, the father of the children is married to someone else from whom he derived his residence rights. Home Office without evidence, were saying the guy and the woman are together. When we ask for disclosure of the guys marital status, which they know about, they refused to disclose.

Fustrated2019 · Post by **Fustrated2019** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:07 pm

Obie wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:55 pm
They are trying to mislead the tribunal at any cost.

If the judge dismiss your appeal under 2016 regulation, no way you can succeed under settlement scheme. So that is misleading.

I faced similar misleading from them 3 weeks ago, the appellant is a single mother, the father of the children is married to someone else from whom he derived his residence rights. Home Office without evidence, were saying the guy and the woman are together. When we ask for disclosure of the guys marital status, which they know about, they refused to disclose.

They are unbelievable . I just hope and pray that the judge sees it as it is. The hearing was scheduled for 2 hours but lasted only 20 mins

.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:20 pm

Fustrated2019 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:48 pm

snooky wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:10 pm

Fustrated2019 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 am
Good morning everyone ,

i had my oral hearing yesterday and the HO asked the judge to dismiss my appeal because I have a pending EUSS application , is that normal? The judge hasnt given a verdict and I said I will receive a decision in the post . I am so scared and confused .

please can someone shed a light ? Thank You

Don't be scared.

HO and HOPO was shallow to ask the judge to dismiss your case as you got EUSS pending. Have they forgotten that the two do not vary

The judge wouldn't do that as your right was and is protected before on or 31 December 2020.

As you met the Regulations at that time, don't be afraid of HO intimidation.

They should have come there to argue on point of law not to thwart the Judge's knowledge

There is only three questions under zambrano eea reg 16 to meet.

Is your child a British and under 18
Is the child living in the UK
Are you the primary carer.

If it is ye ye yes then HO can't ask the judge to preclude you. That would be against Article 20 of the TFEU.

Trust the judge

Thank you snooky. He said I don’t meet reg 16 ( b) where it says someone doesn’t qualify if they have leave to remain . All my arguments went flying and I didn’t say enough to support my case . The judge did ask me questions to establish if I am a sole carer . The only argument the HO had was that I have leave to remain so I didn’t qualify.

Thank you so much snooky. I will update the thread with any changes

Since I joined this forum, I have always said LTR doesn't stop anyone from Zambrano and Reg 7 and 7(A) also did not exclude people with HO controlled LTR.

This was further given a boost by Judge Neville though it is a Ftt ruling, the good thing about him is that he is a proper leanered judge. His theory was accepted by Judge Mostyn in Akinsanya.

HO has nothing to argue about but to mess up people future before you can straighten up.

Your case would be allowed but prepare for HO appealing against the decision because I have seen a lot recently.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:22 pm

Obie wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:55 pm
They are trying to mislead the tribunal at any cost.

If the judge dismiss your appeal under 2016 regulation, no way you can succeed under settlement scheme. So that is misleading.

I faced similar misleading from them 3 weeks ago, the appellant is a single mother, the father of the children is married to someone else from whom he derived his residence rights. Home Office without evidence, were saying the guy and the woman are together. When we ask for disclosure of the guys marital status, which they know about, they refused to disclose.

Obie is on point.

They came to try to misled the judge and hide always under executive powers for not disclosing material fact.

Thank Obie

Fustrated2019 · Post by **Fustrated2019** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:00 pm

snooky wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:20 pm

Fustrated2019 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:48 pm

snooky wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:10 pm

Fustrated2019 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 am
Good morning everyone ,

i had my oral hearing yesterday and the HO asked the judge to dismiss my appeal because I have a pending EUSS application , is that normal? The judge hasnt given a verdict and I said I will receive a decision in the post . I am so scared and confused .

please can someone shed a light ? Thank You

Don't be scared.

HO and HOPO was shallow to ask the judge to dismiss your case as you got EUSS pending. Have they forgotten that the two do not vary

The judge wouldn't do that as your right was and is protected before on or 31 December 2020.

As you met the Regulations at that time, don't be afraid of HO intimidation.

They should have come there to argue on point of law not to thwart the Judge's knowledge

There is only three questions under zambrano eea reg 16 to meet.

Is your child a British and under 18
Is the child living in the UK
Are you the primary carer.

If it is ye ye yes then HO can't ask the judge to preclude you. That would be against Article 20 of the TFEU.

Trust the judge

Thank you snooky. He said I don’t meet reg 16 ( b) where it says someone doesn’t qualify if they have leave to remain . All my arguments went flying and I didn’t say enough to support my case . The judge did ask me questions to establish if I am a sole carer . The only argument the HO had was that I have leave to remain so I didn’t qualify.

Thank you so much snooky. I will update the thread with any changes
Since I joined this forum, I have always said LTR doesn't stop anyone from Zambrano and Reg 7 and 7(A) also did not exclude people with HO controlled LTR.

This was further given a boost by Judge Neville though it is a Ftt ruling, the good thing about him is that he is a proper leanered judge. His theory was accepted by Judge Mostyn in Akinsanya.

HO has nothing to argue about but to mess up people future before you can straighten up.

Your case would be allowed but prepare for HO appealing against the decision because I have seen a lot recently.

Thank you @snooky. Nothing surprises me with them anymore

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:15 pm

To All

Good News from the courts.

HO appealed against a decision of Ftt allowing a EEA Zambrano under reg 16 after HOs stupid refusal.

The courts also are fighting back by disallowing the HO the right of appeal.

The attached is the decision received from one of my clients

This means you guys shouldn't be afraid.

You will all succeed

Fustrated2019 · Post by **Fustrated2019** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:26 pm

snooky wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:15 pm
To All

Good News from the courts.

HO appealed against a decision of Ftt allowing a EEA Zambrano under reg 16 after HOs stupid refusal.

The courts also are fighting back by disallowing the HO the right of appeal.

The attached is the decision received from one of my clients

This means you guys shouldn't be afraid.

You will all succeed

Alleluia Thank you for the update snooky

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:38 pm

Fustrated2019 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:26 pm

snooky wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:15 pm
To All

Good News from the courts.

HO appealed against a decision of Ftt allowing a EEA Zambrano under reg 16 after HOs stupid refusal.

The courts also are fighting back by disallowing the HO the right of appeal.

The attached is the decision received from one of my clients

This means you guys shouldn't be afraid.

You will all succeed

Alleluia Thank you for the update snooky

Actually this case involves someone who had LTR as a partner of a British citizen under Appendix fm and has had it twice.

When you look at the argument submitted by the HO for permission to appeal is what Obie elaborated the last time.

HO is trying to their best to misled the courts thinking that they can get away with misleading material facts.

Lagosbos · Post by **Lagosbos** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:38 am

HO appeal in the Akinsanya case has been listed for hearing on the 07th/8th December 2021. Lets keep our fingers crossed and all the best.

Tina87 · Post by **Tina87** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:04 pm

Lagosbos wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:38 am
HO appeal in the Akinsanya case has been listed for hearing on the 07th/8th December 2021. Lets keep our fingers crossed and all the best.

Thanks for the updates. This means HO will have to hold our document till that time? This is hilarious, wanted to travel by December I don't know if one can request for passport?
Snooky @all any idea?

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:58 pm

Tina87 wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:04 pm

Lagosbos wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:38 am
HO appeal in the Akinsanya case has been listed for hearing on the 07th/8th December 2021. Lets keep our fingers crossed and all the best.

Thanks for the updates. This means HO will have to hold our document till that time? This is hilarious, wanted to travel by December I don't know if one can request for passport?
Snooky @all any idea?

Hi

They don't need to hold on to your documents until the Akinsanya case is done. However due to most civil servants working from home, HO is way back of meeting its pledge of not keeping people's original documents under EUSS.

Once the have scanned all to their hard drive and into your folder then they have to send it back to you. Remember to scan hundreds of documents for each person is a nightmare.

Regards

shay007 · Post by **shay007** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:20 pm

Hello everyone, is it possible to fill an online FLR FP form but shows FLR M as the visa type at the end of the form as you are about to pay. Is it my mistake by chowing the wrong form or because I’m married? Can you change it or do I have to fill another form? Thanks for your reply

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:37 pm

shay007 wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:20 pm
Hello everyone, is it possible to fill an online FLR FP form but shows FLR M as the visa type at the end of the form as you are about to pay. Is it my mistake by chowing the wrong form or because I’m married? Can you change it or do I have to fill another form? Thanks for your reply

Technical you have filled a wrong form. You beans and eat rice.

Delete the application and go back and fill a new a flr fp and select parent of a child

Jay444 · Post by **Jay444** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:17 pm

Hi
I have apply for EUSS Zambrano on 29th June as akisanya would be heard by COP in December
My flrfp parents route is going to expire in end of October 2021, do I have to make parallel application of flrfp or I can rely on EUSS application until decision has been made?
I am new in immigration board.
Reading other post on Zambrano from last few days.
Need help so worried.
Thank you

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