Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

snooky wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:36 am

bwunmi wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:28 am

snooky wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:32 am

bwunmi wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:58 pm

Hi @Snooky.
Sorry to bother you please. I was reading through the form,it states An Eu self sufficient child. We are presently being supported by the social service(section 17). Do you think I can still apply for derivatives right if we are under the children services please?
I was thinking of putting in another Eu Settlement scheme application,this time would rely on my eldest child,who is in education. I'm scared the ongoing application is being delayed because my second child is not self sufficient and it might come out negative.
I need your advice please. Thank you

The Economically Self-Sufficient

A self-sufficient person is someone who has enough money to pay for their living expenses without claiming benefits in the UK and who has comprehensive sickness insurance in the UK.

To be accepted as a self-sufficient person they must be able to show more than the maximum level of resources which a UK national and their family members can have in order to qualify for social assistance under the UK benefits system.

There is no requirement regarding the origin of the resources on the basis of which an EU citizen may be self-sufficient. To assess whether an EU national is self-sufficient in the UK, he or she only needs to show that there are sufficient resources available. This in turn means that the origin of the resources can equally be from employment of a spouse or other family member, a point made by the CJEU on several occasions (see, e.g., C-200/02 Chen [2004] ECR I-9525 and C-86/12 Alokpa 10 October 2013). Regulation 4(4) of the 2006 Regulations now confirms that an EEA national can qualify as self-sufficient based on the income of their non-EEA family member.

Based on regulation 16(2), 16(4) and 16(7) for Chen, Ibrahim/Teixeira it could be a bit of a problem.

The only way is if your social service assistance is saved in a different bank account by you and have enough funds in there; as you dont need to show where the funds are coming from.

Technically section 17 will affect you if you dont save the money given to you as subsistence.

If you have any family member too who is part of your household and works, that would be fine.

Hi Spooky,
Thank you for the reply.
I don't have any family member leaving with me,only my children. My ex partner gives us feeding allowance. He is self employed but we don't leave together anymore.
What do you think my opinion is please?

1. How many years did you live with your ex in uk
2. Can your ex support the child with the income
3. Is your ex working

Based on your answers to these causing, I can determine another route

You could still have derived right

bwunmi wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:56 am

snooky wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:36 am

bwunmi wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:28 am

snooky wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:32 am

The Economically Self-Sufficient

A self-sufficient person is someone who has enough money to pay for their living expenses without claiming benefits in the UK and who has comprehensive sickness insurance in the UK.

To be accepted as a self-sufficient person they must be able to show more than the maximum level of resources which a UK national and their family members can have in order to qualify for social assistance under the UK benefits system.

There is no requirement regarding the origin of the resources on the basis of which an EU citizen may be self-sufficient. To assess whether an EU national is self-sufficient in the UK, he or she only needs to show that there are sufficient resources available. This in turn means that the origin of the resources can equally be from employment of a spouse or other family member, a point made by the CJEU on several occasions (see, e.g., C-200/02 Chen [2004] ECR I-9525 and C-86/12 Alokpa 10 October 2013). Regulation 4(4) of the 2006 Regulations now confirms that an EEA national can qualify as self-sufficient based on the income of their non-EEA family member.

Based on regulation 16(2), 16(4) and 16(7) for Chen, Ibrahim/Teixeira it could be a bit of a problem.

The only way is if your social service assistance is saved in a different bank account by you and have enough funds in there; as you dont need to show where the funds are coming from.

Technically section 17 will affect you if you dont save the money given to you as subsistence.

If you have any family member too who is part of your household and works, that would be fine.

Hi Spooky,
Thank you for the reply.
I don't have any family member leaving with me,only my children. My ex partner gives us feeding allowance. He is self employed but we don't leave together anymore.
What do you think my opinion is please?

1. How many years did you live with your ex in uk
2. Can your ex support the child with the income
3. Is your ex working

Based on your answers to these causing, I can determine another route

You could still have derived right

We were together for 3 years.
Yes he can
He works as a self employed
Thank you

snooky wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:04 am

bwunmi wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:56 am

snooky wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:36 am

bwunmi wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:28 am

Hi Spooky,
Thank you for the reply.
I don't have any family member leaving with me,only my children. My ex partner gives us feeding allowance. He is self employed but we don't leave together anymore.
What do you think my opinion is please?

1. How many years did you live with your ex in uk
2. Can your ex support the child with the income
3. Is your ex working

Based on your answers to these causing, I can determine another route

You could still have derived right

We were together for 3 years.
Yes he can
He works as a self employed
Thank you

Then he can show or proof with his account to show that his child is self sufficient so by so doing you as a direct relative primary carer in ascending other under regulation 16(8)(b)(ii).

Chavez-Vilchez C-133/15, on 10 May 2017, you do not need to consider whether the other person is an ‘exempt person’ as defined in regulation 16(7)(c) of the 2016 regulations.

So though your ex might be exempt person that wouldn't affect anything.

bwunmi wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:11 am

snooky wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:04 am

bwunmi wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:56 am

snooky wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:36 am

1. How many years did you live with your ex in uk
2. Can your ex support the child with the income
3. Is your ex working

Based on your answers to these causing, I can determine another route

You could still have derived right

We were together for 3 years.
Yes he can
He works as a self employed
Thank you

Then he can show or proof with his account to show that his child is self sufficient so by so doing you as a direct relative primary carer in ascending other under regulation 16(8)(b)(ii).

Chavez-Vilchez C-133/15, on 10 May 2017, you do not need to consider whether the other person is an ‘exempt person’ as defined in regulation 16(7)(c) of the 2016 regulations.

So though your ex might be exempt person that wouldn't affect anything.

Thank you so much Snooky.
I really appreciate your help.

snooky wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:22 am

bwunmi wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:11 am

snooky wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:04 am

bwunmi wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:56 am

We were together for 3 years.
Yes he can
He works as a self employed
Thank you

Then he can show or proof with his account to show that his child is self sufficient so by so doing you as a direct relative primary carer in ascending other under regulation 16(8)(b)(ii).

Chavez-Vilchez C-133/15, on 10 May 2017, you do not need to consider whether the other person is an ‘exempt person’ as defined in regulation 16(7)(c) of the 2016 regulations.

So though your ex might be exempt person that wouldn't affect anything.

Thank you so much Snooky.
I really appreciate your help.

Retain Right Regulation 10

Again you might have right of residence in End of relationship with EEA national sponsor: regulation 10(5).

A person who ceases to be the family member of a qualified EEA national, or an EEA national with a permanent right of residence, because of a divorce or annulment of a marriage, or a dissolution of a civil partnership, will retain a right of residence where all the following conditions are met:

• the EEA national was a qualified person, or had a right of permanent residence, on the date of the initiation of proceedings for termination of the marriage or civil partnership

• the applicant was residing in the UK in accordance with the regulations at the
date of initiation of proceedings for termination and either:

the applicant is not an EEA national but if they were they would be a worker, self-employed person, or self-sufficient person under regulation 6

the applicant is the family member of a person who meets the definition of the above

• the applicant meets the requirements of either regulation 10(5)(d)(i), (ii), (iii), or
(iv) of the 2016 regulations.

Regulation 10(5)(d)(i)

To meet the conditions of regulation 10(5)(d)(i) the applicant must have:

• been married to, or in a civil partnership with, the European Economic Area (EEA) national for at least 3 years immediately before the initiation ofproceedings for termination

• lived in the UK with the EEA national sponsor for at least one year during the time of their marriage or civil partnership

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:28 am

Hi Snooky, the letter from the school states when my child started attending (reception) till date. It then went on to state that I am the main point of contact for my child.
Is it ok?.

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:45 am

Hi Snooky, the letter from the school states when my child started attending (reception) till date. It then went on to state that I am the main point of contact for my child.

I also got a letter from the Montessori nursery to cover for when my child was attending at the age of 2 to 3 years (pre nursery) and also their year book for that period showing my child’s name.

I have also found a hospital report I have and highlighted my child’s immunisation to cover 1 to 2 years.

I have printed out my parent pay account to show the money I have transferred to the breakfast club and after school services.

The above have covered those years they asked for. Are they enough or should I also add the red book?.

snooky wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:49 am

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:45 am

Hi Snooky, the letter from the school states when my child started attending (reception) till date. It then went on to state that I am the main point of contact for my child.

I also got a letter from the Montessori nursery to cover for when my child was attending at the age of 2 to 3 years (pre nursery) and also their year book for that period showing my child’s name.

I have also found a hospital report I have and highlighted my child’s immunisation to cover 1 to 2 years.

I have printed out my parent pay account to show the money I have transferred to the breakfast club and after school services.

The above have covered those years they asked for. Are they enough or should I also add the red book?.

Those letters are ok, as far as they cover the lost years. Moreover the school letters are more live and current also shows the child's dependency and your responsibilities.

Send them

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:56 am

snooky wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:49 am

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:45 am

Hi Snooky, the letter from the school states when my child started attending (reception) till date. It then went on to state that I am the main point of contact for my child.

I also got a letter from the Montessori nursery to cover for when my child was attending at the age of 2 to 3 years (pre nursery) and also their year book for that period showing my child’s name.

I have also found a hospital report I have and highlighted my child’s immunisation to cover 1 to 2 years.

I have printed out my parent pay account to show the money I have transferred to the breakfast club and after school services.

The above have covered those years they asked for. Are they enough or should I also add the red book?.

Those letters are ok, as far as they cover the lost years. Moreover the school letters are more live and current also shows the child's dependency and your responsibilities.

Send them

Thank you so much. Post Office here I come!.

Prettymum wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:14 am

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:56 am

snooky wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:49 am

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:45 am

Hi Snooky, the letter from the school states when my child started attending (reception) till date. It then went on to state that I am the main point of contact for my child.

I also got a letter from the Montessori nursery to cover for when my child was attending at the age of 2 to 3 years (pre nursery) and also their year book for that period showing my child’s name.

I have also found a hospital report I have and highlighted my child’s immunisation to cover 1 to 2 years.

I have printed out my parent pay account to show the money I have transferred to the breakfast club and after school services.

The above have covered those years they asked for. Are they enough or should I also add the red book?.

Those letters are ok, as far as they cover the lost years. Moreover the school letters are more live and current also shows the child's dependency and your responsibilities.

Send them

Thank you so much. Post Office here I come!.

LOL

Ngoo wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:09 am

Hello Everyone!

I just received this email from EU Settlement Team. I submitted two applications to HO. The first one was an online application and and the second was a paper application.In a nut shell they have narrowed the application to one.



Dear xxxxx


Thank you for your application under the EU Settlement Scheme. Unfortunately, your application is not valid and we are unable to accept it.
What this means for you
Your application is not valid for the reasons set out below. If you wish to successfully apply for status under the EU Settlement Scheme you will first need to make a valid application.
Why your application has been rejected as invalid
To qualify under the Scheme you need to make a valid application. The requirements for a valid application are set out in Appendix EU to the Immigration Rules. Paragraph EU9 of that Annex sets out when an application is valid. You can find out more about the requirements here https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families.
For an application to be valid, it must be made using the required application process. Your application was not made using the required application process because you have applied online for a derivative right consideration.
The required paper application form to be used by a family member of a qualifying British citizen can be obtained by following the guidance on gov.uk here: at https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-ci ... lying-for- settled-status.

You were sent a notification on 13 January 2020 which advised you to contact the Settlement Resolution Centre.
EU Settlement Scheme PO Box 2075
Liverpool
L69 3PG
Tel 0300 123 7379 Email
Web www.gov.uk/ukvi
Application Reference xxxxxx
Date

26 June 2020

You have submitted a paper application on 20 January 2020 using the required process and your original online application made on 21 November 2019 has been closed as it is not valid. The paper application you made on 20 January 2020 is still under consideration.
For the reasons explained above your application submitted online on 21 November 2019 has been closed as it is not valid.
Information for those who require assistance with the required application process (the assisted digital route) and on other approved ways of making a valid application is available here: https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu- citizens-families/applying-for-settled-status.
Next steps
If you have additional information or evidence that enables you to submit a valid application you can make another free application under the EU Settlement Scheme at any time online at: https://apply-for-eu-settled- status.homeoffice.gov.uk.
Applications are free of charge and you have until 30 June 2021, or until any status you currently hold under the scheme ceases to be valid, to reapply.
For information on how to do so please see the Gov.UK website: www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-f ... led-status.
There is no right to an administrative review or an appeal of an invalid application.
If you have any questions or would like to discuss this letter, you can call the EU Settlement Resolution Centre (SRC):
Calling from inside the UK: 0300 123 7379 Calling from outside the UK: +44 203 080 0010
Further details on contacting us can be found on our website:
https://www.gov.uk/contact-ukvi-inside- ... the-uk/eu-

Ngoo wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:09 am

Hello Everyone!

I just received this email from EU Settlement Team. I submitted two applications to HO. The first one was an online application and and the second was a paper application.In a nut shell they have narrowed the application to one.



Dear xxxxx


Thank you for your application under the EU Settlement Scheme. Unfortunately, your application is not valid and we are unable to accept it.
What this means for you
Your application is not valid for the reasons set out below. If you wish to successfully apply for status under the EU Settlement Scheme you will first need to make a valid application.
Why your application has been rejected as invalid
To qualify under the Scheme you need to make a valid application. The requirements for a valid application are set out in Appendix EU to the Immigration Rules. Paragraph EU9 of that Annex sets out when an application is valid. You can find out more about the requirements here https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families.
For an application to be valid, it must be made using the required application process. Your application was not made using the required application process because you have applied online for a derivative right consideration.
The required paper application form to be used by a family member of a qualifying British citizen can be obtained by following the guidance on gov.uk here: at https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-ci ... lying-for- settled-status.

You were sent a notification on 13 January 2020 which advised you to contact the Settlement Resolution Centre.
EU Settlement Scheme PO Box 2075
Liverpool
L69 3PG
Tel 0300 123 7379 Email
Web www.gov.uk/ukvi
Application Reference xxxxxx
Date

26 June 2020

You have submitted a paper application on 20 January 2020 using the required process and your original online application made on 21 November 2019 has been closed as it is not valid. The paper application you made on 20 January 2020 is still under consideration.
For the reasons explained above your application submitted online on 21 November 2019 has been closed as it is not valid.
Information for those who require assistance with the required application process (the assisted digital route) and on other approved ways of making a valid application is available here: https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu- citizens-families/applying-for-settled-status.
Next steps
If you have additional information or evidence that enables you to submit a valid application you can make another free application under the EU Settlement Scheme at any time online at: https://apply-for-eu-settled- status.homeoffice.gov.uk.
Applications are free of charge and you have until 30 June 2021, or until any status you currently hold under the scheme ceases to be valid, to reapply.
For information on how to do so please see the Gov.UK website: www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-f ... led-status.
There is no right to an administrative review or an appeal of an invalid application.
If you have any questions or would like to discuss this letter, you can call the EU Settlement Resolution Centre (SRC):
Calling from inside the UK: 0300 123 7379 Calling from outside the UK: +44 203 080 0010
Further details on contacting us can be found on our website:
https://www.gov.uk/contact-ukvi-inside- ... the-uk/eu-

dimiku wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:12 pm

Ngoo wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:09 am

Hello Everyone!

I just received this email from EU Settlement Team. I submitted two applications to HO. The first one was an online application and and the second was a paper application.In a nut shell they have narrowed the application to one.



Dear xxxxx


Thank you for your application under the EU Settlement Scheme. Unfortunately, your application is not valid and we are unable to accept it.
What this means for you
Your application is not valid for the reasons set out below. If you wish to successfully apply for status under the EU Settlement Scheme you will first need to make a valid application.
Why your application has been rejected as invalid
To qualify under the Scheme you need to make a valid application. The requirements for a valid application are set out in Appendix EU to the Immigration Rules. Paragraph EU9 of that Annex sets out when an application is valid. You can find out more about the requirements here https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families.
For an application to be valid, it must be made using the required application process. Your application was not made using the required application process because you have applied online for a derivative right consideration.
The required paper application form to be used by a family member of a qualifying British citizen can be obtained by following the guidance on gov.uk here: at https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-ci ... lying-for- settled-status.

You were sent a notification on 13 January 2020 which advised you to contact the Settlement Resolution Centre.
EU Settlement Scheme PO Box 2075
Liverpool
L69 3PG
Tel 0300 123 7379 Email
Web www.gov.uk/ukvi
Application Reference xxxxxx
Date

26 June 2020

You have submitted a paper application on 20 January 2020 using the required process and your original online application made on 21 November 2019 has been closed as it is not valid. The paper application you made on 20 January 2020 is still under consideration.
For the reasons explained above your application submitted online on 21 November 2019 has been closed as it is not valid.
Information for those who require assistance with the required application process (the assisted digital route) and on other approved ways of making a valid application is available here: https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu- citizens-families/applying-for-settled-status.
Next steps
If you have additional information or evidence that enables you to submit a valid application you can make another free application under the EU Settlement Scheme at any time online at: https://apply-for-eu-settled- status.homeoffice.gov.uk.
Applications are free of charge and you have until 30 June 2021, or until any status you currently hold under the scheme ceases to be valid, to reapply.
For information on how to do so please see the Gov.UK website: www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-f ... led-status.
There is no right to an administrative review or an appeal of an invalid application.
If you have any questions or would like to discuss this letter, you can call the EU Settlement Resolution Centre (SRC):
Calling from inside the UK: 0300 123 7379 Calling from outside the UK: +44 203 080 0010
Further details on contacting us can be found on our website:
https://www.gov.uk/contact-ukvi-inside- ... the-uk/eu-

hi Ngoo
I am in very similar position to yours.
I applied on 24/04/2019 online and relying on a previous relationship with an eu citizen (now separated).
I was waiting till November 2019 and the EU resolution center said that I will have to apply under paper application which I did in jan 2020.
The first online application under the settled status was refused in march 2020 and they told that despite the first online application being refused they are still considering my paper application.
So altogether I have been waiting since January 2020 for them to consider my paper application

Lagosbos wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:58 pm

@snooky can quickly check I am required to send in my current BRP as required in the DRF 1 or my passport and my child's will suffice?

Ngoo wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:29 am

dimiku wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:12 pm

Ngoo wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:09 am

Hello Everyone!

I just received this email from EU Settlement Team. I submitted two applications to HO. The first one was an online application and and the second was a paper application.In a nut shell they have narrowed the application to one.



Dear xxxxx


Thank you for your application under the EU Settlement Scheme. Unfortunately, your application is not valid and we are unable to accept it.
What this means for you
Your application is not valid for the reasons set out below. If you wish to successfully apply for status under the EU Settlement Scheme you will first need to make a valid application.
Why your application has been rejected as invalid
To qualify under the Scheme you need to make a valid application. The requirements for a valid application are set out in Appendix EU to the Immigration Rules. Paragraph EU9 of that Annex sets out when an application is valid. You can find out more about the requirements here https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families.
For an application to be valid, it must be made using the required application process. Your application was not made using the required application process because you have applied online for a derivative right consideration.
The required paper application form to be used by a family member of a qualifying British citizen can be obtained by following the guidance on gov.uk here: at https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-ci ... lying-for- settled-status.

You were sent a notification on 13 January 2020 which advised you to contact the Settlement Resolution Centre.
EU Settlement Scheme PO Box 2075
Liverpool
L69 3PG
Tel 0300 123 7379 Email
Web www.gov.uk/ukvi
Application Reference xxxxxx
Date

26 June 2020

You have submitted a paper application on 20 January 2020 using the required process and your original online application made on 21 November 2019 has been closed as it is not valid. The paper application you made on 20 January 2020 is still under consideration.
For the reasons explained above your application submitted online on 21 November 2019 has been closed as it is not valid.
Information for those who require assistance with the required application process (the assisted digital route) and on other approved ways of making a valid application is available here: https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu- citizens-families/applying-for-settled-status.
Next steps
If you have additional information or evidence that enables you to submit a valid application you can make another free application under the EU Settlement Scheme at any time online at: https://apply-for-eu-settled- status.homeoffice.gov.uk.
Applications are free of charge and you have until 30 June 2021, or until any status you currently hold under the scheme ceases to be valid, to reapply.
For information on how to do so please see the Gov.UK website: www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-f ... led-status.
There is no right to an administrative review or an appeal of an invalid application.
If you have any questions or would like to discuss this letter, you can call the EU Settlement Resolution Centre (SRC):
Calling from inside the UK: 0300 123 7379 Calling from outside the UK: +44 203 080 0010
Further details on contacting us can be found on our website:
https://www.gov.uk/contact-ukvi-inside- ... the-uk/eu-

hi Ngoo
I am in very similar position to yours.
I applied on 24/04/2019 online and relying on a previous relationship with an eu citizen (now separated).
I was waiting till November 2019 and the EU resolution center said that I will have to apply under paper application which I did in jan 2020.
The first online application under the settled status was refused in march 2020 and they told that despite the first online application being refused they are still considering my paper application.
So altogether I have been waiting since January 2020 for them to consider my paper application

Hello Dimiku,
Sorry for the refusal. By God’s grace we will hear from them soon and it will definitely be good news.

Lagosbos wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:58 am

@ Snooky, No 2 on page 10 of the form requested for BRP details and was also asking it will be provided with the application.
@lulubaby did you send your your BRP if you have one?

Lagosbos wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:58 am

@ Snooky, No 2 on page 10 of the form requested for BRP details and was also asking it will be provided with the application.
@lulubaby did you send your your BRP if you have one?

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:56 pm

Hi Snooky, I just called the EU resolution centre to cross check and they confirmed they received the further information I uploaded and that the information has been seen. Phew....

LULUBABY wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:56 pm

Hi Snooky, I just called the EU resolution centre to cross check and they confirmed they received the further information I uploaded and that the information has been seen. Phew....