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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Caseyk3 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:48 pm

Tina87 wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:17 pm
Caseyk3 wrote:
Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:11 pm
Hi Guys

I have been refused . just received any email just now, my case is similar to Akisanya's case, I had a derivative resident card from 2015 to 2020
And Leave to Remain from 2015 renewals till now
Sorry for your refusal, just follow the trend as usual and file for appeal . Go all through this thread, you will see how to go about it for if you are waiting on people who could help onthis forum, you will be waisting your appeal time. Just try your luck and put on an appeal. Nyamebeye and whyworry could help you if you are stuck somewhere.
Thanks you Tina

I reached out to Hackney law centre for advice and way forward

Here is their response below 👇

I have read the decision

Unfortunately, we do not have capacity to take on the case. However, note that as the rules stand, a person who had leave to remain in another category as of 31 Dec 2020 will not qualify for Zambrano Leave. You case might be different because you had been previously been granted Leave as a Zambrano carer.



We are advising clients to submit the Admin Review application as the Tribunal is not willing to stay cases behind the Akinsanya case. You should be able to complete the Admin Review forms yourself.

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Post by KSplendide » Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:53 pm

Nyamebeye wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:45 pm
My husband's settled status application has been unsuccessful. Same refusal reasons they give to anyone with limited leave to remain. We kind of expected that having read here of their pattern.

He still has his 2.5yrs which was being renewed alongside the Zambrano EUSS so we can carry on living our lives. He did not allow the LTR to expire.
We shall appeal the Zambrano but really this is to buy time while the Akinsanya battle is concluded.

His decision letter was dated yesterday same as mine but they chose to send it to him today.
Joint primary carers, one granted one refused. Home office will never cease to amaze me 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Hahaha.
Congratulations @Nyamebeye on the successful outcome of your application & also commiserations on your husbands application. I totally agree with you-- HO never ceases to amaze us, they are a mighty wonder 🤷🏾‍♀️
But, as usual we don't give up but keep fighting on, as you have been doing since the beginning. Best wishes

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Post by KSplendide » Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:04 pm

Mine was also refused but under reg 16 para 5 citing VELAJ, which relates to compulsion of the BC to leave UK. Meanwhile there is no alternative carer & I don't share caring responsibilities.
I am unsure whether to go for administrative review or appeal or both?
Who knows how long an admin review will take? Also I can then put in a PAP for JR
After waiting so long, I really don't have the patience for an appeal because the courts are clogged up.
@Lagosbos, I remember your sis in laws appeal was under reg 16(5).
What do you think?

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Premo85 » Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:14 pm

KSplendide wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:04 pm
Mine was also refused but under reg 16 para 5 citing VELAJ, which relates to compulsion of the BC to leave UK. Meanwhile there is no alternative carer & I don't share caring responsibilities.
I am unsure whether to go for administrative review or appeal or both?
Who knows how long an admin review will take? Also I can then put in a PAP for JR
After waiting so long, I really don't have the patience for an appeal because the courts are clogged up.
@Lagosbos, I remember your sis in laws appeal was under reg 16(5).
What do you think?
Did you have leave to remain or not?

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Post by KSplendide » Wed Oct 05, 2022 3:03 pm

Premo85 wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:14 pm
KSplendide wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:04 pm
Mine was also refused but under reg 16 para 5 citing VELAJ, which relates to compulsion of the BC to leave UK. Meanwhile there is no alternative carer & I don't share caring responsibilities.
I am unsure whether to go for administrative review or appeal or both?
Who knows how long an admin review will take? Also I can then put in a PAP for JR
After waiting so long, I really don't have the patience for an appeal because the courts are clogged up.
@Lagosbos, I remember your sis in laws appeal was under reg 16(5).
What do you think?
Did you have leave to remain or not?
Many thanks for your message @Premo85. No I didn't have any leave to remain. I've been given both options for appeal & administrative review.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Nyamebeye » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:32 pm

Those who have been granted settled status, does your digital status have Zambrano attached to it?
Mine is attached. I wondered why they did that as they already conceded that putting the Zambrano remark on indefinite leave status was discriminatory beacsue it excludes people from accessing public funds. DWP guidance.
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by netqueen » Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:37 pm

Nyamebeye wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:32 pm
Those who have been granted settled status, does your digital status have Zambrano attached to it?
Mine is attached. I wondered why they did that as they already conceded that putting the Zambrano remark on indefinite leave status was discriminatory beacsue it excludes people from accessing public funds. DWP guidance.
Congratulations Nyamebeye. Glad you won, .

The digital status does have Zambrano attached to it. Even the residence card that will be issued to you also has Zambrano behind it. I am minded to think it is the fact that it has settle status or ILR on the front bit is what should be looked at not how the ILR was acquired. IE: via marriage or through our British child.
Happy for you.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Shara111 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:42 pm

My zambrano refused but it's shows I have applied EU status even appeal days are gone as well..

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Post by Spirit007 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:44 pm

Hey!

Does anyone know the difference between Legal Guidianship and Parent Responsibility Agreement (PRA). Amongst the two, which takes precedence.
Rationale for my question: HO is requesting I provided legal guidianship eventhough they knowledge receipt of the PRA, which I think has broader coverage and powers than legal guidianship

Your different opinions, as usual are highly appreciated.

Thanks

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Post by Agyapa » Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:51 pm

Nyamebeye wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:32 pm
Those who have been granted settled status, does your digital status have Zambrano attached to it?
Mine is attached. I wondered why they did that as they already conceded that putting the Zambrano remark on indefinite leave status was discriminatory beacsue it excludes people from accessing public funds. DWP guidance.
Hello my Sister @ Nyamebeye, you can apply for any public funds. The Zambrano on your settled status WILL not affect the decision.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Nyamebeye » Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:09 pm

Shara111 wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:42 pm
My zambrano refused but it's shows I have applied EU status even appeal days are gone as well..
Can you pls say a bit more/exactly what you are enquiring? Thanks

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Post by Nyamebeye » Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:11 pm

netqueen wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:37 pm
Nyamebeye wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:32 pm
Those who have been granted settled status, does your digital status have Zambrano attached to it?
Mine is attached. I wondered why they did that as they already conceded that putting the Zambrano remark on indefinite leave status was discriminatory beacsue it excludes people from accessing public funds. DWP guidance.
Congratulations Nyamebeye. Glad you won, .

The digital status does have Zambrano attached to it. Even the residence card that will be issued to you also has Zambrano behind it. I am minded to think it is the fact that it has settle status or ILR on the front bit is what should be looked at not how the ILR was acquired. IE: via marriage or through our British child.
Happy for you.
Great, thanks

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Shara111 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:30 pm

Nyamebeye wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:09 pm
Shara111 wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:42 pm
My zambrano refused but it's shows I have applied EU status even appeal days are gone as well..
Can you pls say a bit more/exactly what you are enquiring? Thanks
Yes dear
I applied in march for zambrano as British wife and British child since 2015 .
They refused last July and when I go for prove the right of work it's still comes EU application there I can work etc.but not my FLR m application.which I applied in may.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Nyamebeye » Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:39 pm

Shara111 wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:30 pm
Nyamebeye wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:09 pm
Shara111 wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:42 pm
My zambrano refused but it's shows I have applied EU status even appeal days are gone as well..
Can you pls say a bit more/exactly what you are enquiring? Thanks
Yes dear
I applied in march for zambrano as British wife and British child since 2015 .
They refused last July and when I go for prove the right of work it's still comes EU application there I can work etc.but not my FLR m application.which I applied in may.
Did you appeal the refusal? The COA will continue to remain on your online status until you have exhausted all your appeal options for the EUSS Zambrano application. Have they granted you the FLR (m) application?

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Nyamebeye » Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:40 pm

netqueen wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:37 pm
Nyamebeye wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:32 pm
Those who have been granted settled status, does your digital status have Zambrano attached to it?
Mine is attached. I wondered why they did that as they already conceded that putting the Zambrano remark on indefinite leave status was discriminatory beacsue it excludes people from accessing public funds. DWP guidance.
Congratulations Nyamebeye. Glad you won, .

The digital status does have Zambrano attached to it. Even the residence card that will be issued to you also has Zambrano behind it. I am minded to think it is the fact that it has settle status or ILR on the front bit is what should be looked at not how the ILR was acquired. IE: via marriage or through our British child.
Happy for you.
This link below is a response to someone's freedom of information request in Jan 2020 which was the reason behind my post above. But if this is not an issue now with DWP, then that's okay They should have stuck to their words though :D .
Note the paragraph where it states "however, following discussions with departments and stakeholders, the relevant marking on biometric residence cards issued to Zambrano carers granted indefinite leave under the EUSS will be removed shortly as they will have recourse to public funds in line with others granted such leave"

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... y.pdf.html

Thanks everyone. We learn everyday, we never stop :D

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Nyamebeye » Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:05 pm

Spirit007 wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:44 pm
Hey!

Does anyone know the difference between Legal Guidianship and Parent Responsibility Agreement (PRA). Amongst the two, which takes precedence.
Rationale for my question: HO is requesting I provided legal guidianship eventhough they knowledge receipt of the PRA, which I think has broader coverage and powers than legal guidianship

Your different opinions, as usual are highly appreciated.

Thanks
Legal guardianship (guardianship order) is granted by a court to the guardian who is usually not the parent. The guardian shares parental responsibility with the biological parents of the child however, their decisions on issues relating to the child may override decisions of the parents. Parental responsibility agreement is made between the biological parents and the other party who could be a step-parent. You both complete a form and sign and witnessed by a solicitor I think. so eg, if you your partner has a child and you are not married or lived together for more than two years, the child is not classed as your stepchild so you do not have parental responsibility. To get parental responsibility, this needs to be agreed with the other parent of the child. The documents signed to attest this is the parental responsibility agreement.
Legal guardianship has more powers that parental responsibility agreement.
Why are they asking you for this? A brief background will help please. Thanks

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Post by LULUBABY » Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:13 pm

Nyamebeye wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:22 pm
Thank you my brother@ Agyapa . Fingers, toes, everything crossed for.my husband.

Thank you too @Whyworry. Yes, a true Independence 😂.
Yes ooooo. Everything crossed for him....

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Post by LULUBABY » Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:49 pm

Nyamebeye wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:10 pm
Finally got my settled status today.
To help this is my timeline. I did not have limited leave to remain at any point.
I am a joint primary carer with my husband who is on the 10 year parent route based on this same British Child of ours.

Jan 2018-Applied for derivative residence after registering my child upon reaching 10yrs in 2016.
Application refused. Appealed and won, Home Office appealed to Upper Tribunal. I won again there.
July 2019- Derivative granted
Nov 2019- applied for EUSS pre settled
Feb 2020-pre settled granted
Feb 2022-applied for settled
Oct 2022- settled status granted

To say I am relieved is an understatement. We thank God and everyone here who help us to remain sane.
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!! Finally!!!!!!!!!! God is Faithful.

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Post by LULUBABY » Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:52 pm

Nyamebeye wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:45 pm
My husband's settled status application has been unsuccessful. Same refusal reasons they give to anyone with limited leave to remain. We kind of expected that having read here of their pattern.

He still has his 2.5yrs which was being renewed alongside the Zambrano EUSS so we can carry on living our lives. He did not allow the LTR to expire.
We shall appeal the Zambrano but really this is to buy time while the Akinsanya battle is concluded.

His decision letter was dated yesterday same as mine but they chose to send it to him today.
Joint primary carers, one granted one refused. Home office will never cease to amaze me 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Hahaha.
Oh dear!!!!! I am just seeing this. Mhhhhhh Home Office......

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Post by Whyworry » Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:09 pm

@Nyamabeye I went to Uni face to face meeting yesterday and still insisted that with I will be charged “ overseas fee “ and I agreed that I would pay the remaining balance after they deduct approved student student loan £9,250. They now went again to check how much difference I need to balance and on return they changed their mind that I will not be allowed to study the course again because I am not home student because I am still a foreign student that are not allow to study any medical course and they now informed me they will likely withdraw the offer from me.

Please what did you suggest I should do?

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Post by Nyamebeye » Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:25 pm

LULUBABY wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:52 pm
Nyamebeye wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:45 pm
My husband's settled status application has been unsuccessful. Same refusal reasons they give to anyone with limited leave to remain. We kind of expected that having read here of their pattern.

He still has his 2.5yrs which was being renewed alongside the Zambrano EUSS so we can carry on living our lives. He did not allow the LTR to expire.
We shall appeal the Zambrano but really this is to buy time while the Akinsanya battle is concluded.

His decision letter was dated yesterday same as mine but they chose to send it to him today.
Joint primary carers, one granted one refused. Home office will never cease to amaze me 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Hahaha.
Oh dear!!!!! I am just seeing this. Mhhhhhh Home Office......
@Lulubaby, we are currently content and happy as a family as we begin to experience some peace which we haven't had for a very long time. My husband can continue to work and travel too on his 2.5 so we can't complain. We will do AR or appeal and let things take its cause as they resolve Akinsanya. When you deal with the home office, you realise how drained and exhausted you become but somehow you get the strength to carry on.
How have you been keeping after your freedom? 😀

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by Shara111 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:17 pm

Nyamebeye wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:39 pm
Shara111 wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:30 pm
Nyamebeye wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:09 pm
Shara111 wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:42 pm
My zambrano refused but it's shows I have applied EU status even appeal days are gone as well..
I didn't go further as I applied already for FLR M already. It's been going fifth months now and waiting for flrp 3rd on 10 years route in 2019 as due to income threshold not met
Can you pls say a bit more/exactly what you are enquiring? Thanks
Yes dear
I applied in march for zambrano as British wife and British child since 2015 .
They refused last July and when I go for prove the right of work it's still comes EU application there I can work etc.but not my FLR m application.which I applied in may.
Did you appeal the refusal? The COA will continue to remain on your online status until you have exhausted all your appeal options for the EUSS Zambrano application. Have they granted you the FLR (m) application?

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Post by Nyamebeye » Sat Oct 08, 2022 8:52 am

Whyworry wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:09 pm
@Nyamabeye I went to Uni face to face meeting yesterday and still insisted that with I will be charged “ overseas fee “ and I agreed that I would pay the remaining balance after they deduct approved student student loan £9,250. They now went again to check how much difference I need to balance and on return they changed their mind that I will not be allowed to study the course again because I am not home student because I am still a foreign student that are not allow to study any medical course and they now informed me they will likely withdraw the offer from me.

Please what did you suggest I should do?
This is upsetting to hear. It's usually that most of the courses that require placement with the NHS are unavailable to foreign students, like nursing, medicine, social work etc. This is because the placements are paid to have students. I know this because when I enrolled at my Uni in 2012, my course was not available to foreign students and so were other courses as we had to do placements.
Recently some Unis have opened up these courses to foreign students but not all Unis.
How many years will it take to complete the course?

What you have to factor in is if you were allowed to continue, will it be sustainable for you to cover the fees for the duration of the course?

Also with the uncertainies around the Zambrano decisions, it will be very distressing and upsetting to have to withdraw from the course halfway through if the decision is not positive.

I am surprised though that they allowed you to enrol even though they classed you as a overseas student only to then change their position when u said you will partly self fund.

I think the starting point is to have detail information whether this course is available to overseas students in that uni. If not, then there is not much that you can do as long as the University has classed u as overseas student.
However, if it is available to other overseas students, then you must take them on why they are withdrawing you. What is their basis then? That will be discriminatory on their part unless you didn't meet other criteria for admission.

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Post by Whyworry » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:04 am

@Nyamebeyo thanks for getting back to me
I used my COA for the online enrolment and they now inform me they won’t accept pending application and that they suggested instantly I won’t be eligible for student loan but to their surprise , the enrolment officer now discovered I have submitted my approved student loan letter which he now apologised and requested that I should provide what evidence I have submitted to student finance for them to approved my loan which I did.

Long story short, They now asked if I have another form of leave which I now provided them my LTR BRP. and in this case they said I will be allowed to continue my study but they will charge me oversea fees which I initially disagree but later I negotiated with them if they can accept my student finance payments £9250 out £15.000 plus then I would pay the remaining balance which they agreed until they changed their mind .

Anyway they suggested I can switch to another course which I am not ready to do and they have not yet withdraw my offer but within me I have decided I will withdraw myself because the stress was too much for me and due to uncertainty about this Zambrano application ,but it would very painful for me because I have already started the course ( MHN) and I been taking necessary injections getting ready for the placement in January.

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Post by Nyamebeye » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:29 am

It looks like they won't budge so unfortunately it's probably better to suffer the pain now and withdraw (as u may have decided) than to have to do so in year two or three (when u can see the crossing line but you will not be able to cross). It will be extra painful and stressful then.
I really feel for you but take heart. This life is full of ups and downs. When the right time comes, you will sail through. I had a 55 year old former headteacher in Africa on my course who had struggled to get on the course after claiming asylum in the UK in thier 40s. The door opened at age 55 and they got in, completeed the course and currently one of the best professionals in that field. Financially doing well too.

It's never too late at the right time. Don't give up on your dream.

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