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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Tue May 30, 2023 1:54 pm

Are EUSS Appeals Even Worth It?

The EUSS Appeals document (statutory instrument) gives two possible grounds for appeal for Zambrano carers:

Ground 1 says the refusal goes against Part 2 of the Withdrawal Agreement. Part 2 does not apply to Zambrano carers. Just Part 1.

Ground 2 says the refusal goes against what the immigration rules say. The immigration rules are unlawful. The refusal won't go against the unlawful rules.

You can't challenge the refusal. You have to challege the rules. That means a judicial review.

Anyway, people are winning at the First-tier and Upper Tribunal. So, I guess it is worth it.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... tents/made

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Post by marcidevpal » Tue May 30, 2023 2:00 pm

REFERENCES

The Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/1052/made

The Immigration (Citizens’ Rights Appeals) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... tents/made

The Citizens’ Rights (Restrictions of Rights of Entry and Residence) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... edule/made

Immigration Rules - Appendix EU
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... ppendix-eu

Hansard - European Union (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill
Volume 669: debated on Tuesday 7 January 2020
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2 ... ent%29Bill

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Tue May 30, 2023 2:08 pm

Citizens' Rights = The Lucky Ones?

I used to talk a lot about lucky ones. Now, I think the people who were lucky are the people who talked about their rights under the Citizen's Rights statutory instrument.

The unlucky ones would possibly then be those who complained about Appendix EU, but didn't have the right argument.

Just a thought.

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Post by marcidevpal » Tue May 30, 2023 2:15 pm

The Lucky Ones, continued

I could never understand how the Home Office could approve some Zambrano carers who had leave to remain under Appendix FM.

Based on what Appendix EU says, every Zambrano carer who had Appendix FM should have been refused.

I think I understand why now.

The Citizen's Rights regulation allows Zambrano carers with leave to remain under Appendix FM to get settlement.

Therefore, the Home Office didn't break any laws by giving Zambrano carers with LTR under Appendix FM settlement.

At the same time, the Home Office didn't advertise the Citizen's Rights document. They kept it quiet.

They refused 90% of applicants based on what Appendix EU said, while allowing through a relative handful of Zambrano families based on what the Citizens' Rights regulation says.

Wow. Just wow.

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Post by marcidevpal » Tue May 30, 2023 2:30 pm

Chen and Teixiera Carers to the Rescue

The UK decided to sunset or retire the 2016 EEA Regulations.

They knew they had to replace it with a Citizens' Rights document.

When they looked at the 2016 EEA Regulations, there was no category just for Zambrano carers.

There was just a category for derivative residence people.

The Home Office was in a pickle.

They couldn't cancel rights for Zambrano carers without cancelling rights for Chen and Teixeira carers.

And Chen and Teixiera carers are covered by the Withdrawal Agreement.

Therefore, the Government couldn't cancel the derivative rights that came over from the 2016 EEA Regulations.

And that is why, today, Zambrano carers are still Zambrano carers based on the definition provided by EU case law.

EU case law draws upon Article 20 of TFEU. Article 20 gave Mr Ruiz Zambrano, Chen and Teixiera the right to stay in Europe.

The UK violates Article 20 TFEU when it treats Zambrano carers differently from Chen and Teixiera carers.

Article 20 TFEU lived on via the 2016 EEA Regulations.

Now, Article 20 TFEU lives on via the Citizens' Rights regulations.

Appendix EU violates the Citizens' Rights regulations.

Therefore, Appendix EU violates the Withdrawal Agreement.

Zambrano, Chen and Teixiera people are all people with a derivative right to reside!

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Post by marcidevpal » Tue May 30, 2023 2:46 pm

Will they remove Zambrano Carers from the Citizens' Rights Regulations, anyway?

I don't think they can change the concept of a person with a derivative right to reside without violating the spirit of Article 20 TFEU and, by extension, the Withdrawal Agreement.

Let's imagine the Home Office decide to alter the definition of a 'person with a derivative right to reside' anyway. Statutory instruments are updated all the time.

Under the section called 'Savings and modifications', the Government adds a line that says something like "except for parents of British children".

And just like that, Zambrano carers would no longer be covered by the Citizens' Rights statutory instrument.

Two problems would then arise.

First, that change would have to be prospective. It would have to only apply to people who had not already been given settlement under EUSS.

Otherwise, all of those Zambrano carers who had obtained settlement would lose it.

Also, the Government would need to do an assessment before they made the change.

Otherwise, they would be accused of procedural impropriety.

They wouldn't be able to pretend Zambrano carers are not an impacted group.

The change would directly and only apply to Zambrano carers.

The Government would have to explain why they are targeting this group.

At this point, it becomes obvious to most people that the Government's reason for the change is discriminatory and/or to promote a hostile environment.

In some ways, it is perhaps better to delay your appeal. In other ways, it is better to get it done.

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Post by marcidevpal » Tue May 30, 2023 3:11 pm

Top lawyers versus Average lawyers

A top lawyer will look at all of the statutory instruments related to your application including but not limited to the Citizens' Rights statutory instrument.

An average lawyer will probably only look at

- Appendix EU of the Immigration Rules
- The EUSS Appeals statutory instrument
- The EUSS statutory instrument

If you have a lawyer, you may want to ask them if they have looked at the Citizens' Right document.

Also, if your lawyer told you that you have 'no chance' of winning, it may be because they are not aware of the Citizens' Rights statutory instrument.

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Post by marcidevpal » Tue May 30, 2023 5:47 pm

Grounds - Irrationality & Misdirection of Law

Judge Mostyn of the Upper Tribunal said in Akinsaya that Zambrano carers' rights are protected by the Citizens' Rights regulation.

Judge Mostyn and Lord Justice Underhill of the Court of Appeal said in Akinsaya that Zambrano carers can have leave to remain under Appendix FM and still be Zambrano carers.

If Mostyn J is right that Zambrano carers are protected by the Citizens' Rights regulation, and

since the Courts agree their additional status under Appendix FM does not change or diminish their status as Zambrano carers, then

Appendix EU of the Immigration Rules must be unlawful.

Moreover, there are additional grounds around breach of legitimate expectation, procedural impropriety, discrimination, breach of human rights, etc

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Post by marcidevpal » Tue May 30, 2023 8:38 pm

Grounds - Irrationality

I forgot to share my understanding of irrationality in the above post.

If you did not make an application your Zambrano status simply expired.

If you did make an EUSS application, your rights under the Citizens' Rights statutory instrument kicked in.

That EUSS application will be judged not on the basis of your rights under the Citizens' Rights regulation.

The application will be assessed based on the definition in Appendix EU.

That is irrational.

It's as if you made an application as an adult only to have it judged as if you were a child.

If your rights arise under the provisions of Union law, the application should be judged under the concepts of Union law.

To do otherwise, is irrational.

The Home Office accepts you as an "ECJ" Zambrano carer under the Citizens' Rights statutory instrument, but judges your application based on the nutty definition in Appendix EU.

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Post by marcidevpal » Wed May 31, 2023 1:50 pm

REFERENCES

Withdrawal Agreement and Political Declaration
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... eclaration

The Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016 (No.1052)
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/1052/made

The Immigration (Citizens’ Rights Appeals) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020 (No.61)
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... tents/made

The Citizens’ Rights (Restrictions of Rights of Entry and Residence) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020 (No.1210)
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... edule/made

The Immigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Act 2020 (Consequential, Saving, Transitional and Transitory Provisions) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020 (No.1309)
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... tents/made

Immigration Rules - Appendix EU
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... ppendix-eu

Hansard - European Union (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill
Volume 669: debated on Tuesday 7 January 2020
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2 ... ent%29Bill

Akinsaya - Upper Tribunal
https://www.judiciary.uk/live-hearings/ ... espondent/

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ad ... /1535.html

Akinsaya - Court of Appeal
https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2022/37.html

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Post by marcidevpal » Wed May 31, 2023 2:20 pm

Are Zambrano carers covered by Part 2 of the Withdrawal Agreement?

Ground 1 of the EUSS Appeals statutory instrument says an appeal can only be brought if the decision violates Part 2 of the Withdrawal Agreement.

Part 2 of the Withdrawal Agreement covers people who are protected under Directive 2004/38/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council.

The 2004 Directive applies to people who exercised their freedom of movement rights.

Parents of British children never left the UK.

Zambrano carers do not fall under the 2004 Directive.

Therefore, they are not covered by Part 2 of the Withdrawal Agreement.

HOWEVER, Article 4 of the Withdrawal Agreement asks the UK to create legal instruments -
1. The provisions of this Agreement and the provisions of Union law made applicable by this Agreement shall produce in respect of and in the United Kingdom the same legal effects as those which they produce within the Union and its Member States.
The UK created a statutory instrument called the Citizens’ Rights (Restrictions of Rights of Entry and Residence) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020.

Yesterday, I explained how Upper Tribunal judge Mostyn J said that Zambrano carers are protected by this instrument - the Citizens’ Rights (Restrictions of Rights of Entry and Residence) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020 -
Simply stated, the effect of the savings is to allow people in the position of the claimant whose rights had vested prior to implementation day on 31 December 2020 to make their claim.
So, although Zambrano carers are NOT directly protected under Part 2 of the Withdrawal Agreement called 'Citizens' Rights'.

Zambrano carers ARE protected under the Citizens’ Rights (Restrictions of Rights of Entry and Residence) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020.

Therefore, you could argue Zambrano carers are INDIRECTLY protected by Part 2 of the Withdrawal Agreement.

Moreover, Part 2, Title 2, Chapter 1, Article 13, Residence Rights says -
4. There shall be no discretion in applying the limitations and conditions provided for in this Title, other than in favour of the person concerned.
Part 2 calls for non-discrimination. It says people who have lived in the UK under Union law acquire permanent residence after five years. Part 2 also says refusals should not be disproportionate. A 90% refusal rate is disproportionate.

So, the Withdrawal Agreement asked the UK to create a Citizens' Rights document. The UK did. The UK's version of Citizens' Rights extends those rights of Zambrano carers. Therefore, Zambrano carers should have access to the Citizens' Rights outlined in the Withdrawal Agreement.

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Post by marcidevpal » Wed May 31, 2023 2:49 pm

Mostyn J & Saving

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... tents/made

Mostyn J didn't just talk about the Citizens' Rights (Entry & Residence) statutory instrument.

He mentioned another important one -

The Immigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Act 2020
(Consequential, Saving, Transitional and Transitory Provisions) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020 (SI 2020/1309)

This statutory instrument 'saves' rights you had as a Zambrano carer under the 2016 EEA Regulations.

In particular, he talked about Regulations 82 - 83, Schedule 3 paras 2 - 6, and Schedule 4 paras 2 - 4.

Regulation 82 says look at Schedule 3.

Regulation 83 talks about benefits.

Schedule 3 protects your appeal rights

Schedule 4 says your 2016 EEA rights are protected while you apply or appeal
2. For the purposes of the provisions specified in paragraph 3, the provisions of the EEA Regulations 2016 specified in paragraph 4, continue to have effect in relation to a person who is a member of the post-transition period group, with the specified modifications, despite the revocation of those Regulations by the 2020 Act.

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Post by marcidevpal » Wed May 31, 2023 2:55 pm

Why copying and pasting Grounds is dangerous

Imagine you copied and pasted HCLC's grounds into your skeleton argument under the submissions section.

The Home Office would have argued, the EEA Regulations are no longer in force. Therefore, the first 2 grounds are not relevant.

Unless you knew about the Citizens' Rights (Entry & Residence) statutory instrument, or the Savings statutory instrument, you could have lost your appeal.

You can't count on your judge to know, or even to help you.

That is why it is important to try to understand your grounds - especially if you have an in-person hearing.

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Post by askme234 » Wed May 31, 2023 10:29 pm

marcidevpal wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:55 pm
Akinsaya & You
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Hi again A,

So, you appear to NOT be like Akinsaya in this way:

Akinsaya was a Zambrano carer and then applied for leave to remain under Appendix FM. You had leave to remain under Appendix FM and then applied for settlement as a Zambrano carer.

This difference between you and Akinsaya may not matter at the end of the day. UTIAC judges do not appear to always care whether you had LTR under Appendix FM before you applied for a derivative residence card - or not. Underhill LJ cares, but your case may never get to the Court of Appeal.

You seem to be like Akinsaya in this way:

You both had leave to remain under Appendix FM on 31 December 2020. The Home Office says anyone with leave to remain under Appendix FM on this day should be refused settlement under Appendix EU. If Akinsaya wins at here next appeal, then you can benefit from her win.
Hi all,

Update on my appeal. The Judge has allowed my appeal for the derivative card as zambrano carer.


Whilst waiting for this appeal, I applied for EUSS in June 2021, this was refused and currently under appeal. I'm just wondering how this would impact the appeal or how home office will implement this decision given that home office no longer issue derivative card.
Has anyone experience this before? It would nice to hear your experience.

Summary of the appeal

I will just copy and past the para;

By a decision promulgated on 16 December 2022, the Upper Tribunal (myself and
Deputy Upper Tribunal xxxx) found there to be an error of law in the
decision of First-tier Tribunal Judge xxxxx dismissing the Appellant’s appeal
against a decision made by the Respondent on 22 September 2020, refusing his
application for a derivative residence card as the primary carer of a British Citizen
child. The Tribunal gave directions for the re-making of the decision in this Tribunal.
A copy of the Tribunal’s decision is appended hereto for ease of reference.


The appeal came back before me on 31 January 2023 for re-making. On that occasion,
the Respondent raised a new issue relating to the Tribunal’s jurisdiction to determine
the appeal. A supplementary skeleton argument was submitted by the Respondent in
which she sought to argue that the Tribunal no longer had jurisdiction to decide the
appeal as regulation 16 of the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations
2016 (“the EEA Regulations”) had not survived the revocation of the EEA Regulations
after 31 December 2020. An issue was also raised about the Respondent’s preparedness
for the hearing as the Respondent had not had sight of the Appellant’s bundle before
the First-tier Tribunal.


The Appellant then as now appeared in person. I was conscious that it would be unfair
for me to dismiss his appeal for want of jurisdiction without giving him the
opportunity to take advice on or be given time to consider the issue. I was also told by
Mr xxx who appeared for the Respondent on that occasion that the issue of
jurisdiction was to be determined in another case by a Presidential panel shortly after
the hearing. He sought an adjournment so that I could consider the issue with the
benefit of a decision following full argument on that issue. I agreed to the adjournment
not simply for that reason but also because the Respondent did not have all the
necessary documents from the Appellant in order to proceed. I gave directions for the
Appellant to serve those documents and gave the Respondent the opportunity to apply
for a further adjournment in the event that the decision of the Presidential panel to
which he had referred had not been promulgated prior to the hearing before me (if that
decision was still thought to be relevant)

The resumed hearing of the appeal was relisted before me on xxx xxx 2023. On
Thursday xxx xx 2023, the Respondent sought a further adjournment. She did so on
the basis that the decision of the Presidential panel had recently been promulgated but
not yet reported. She wished to rely on that decision but considered that it would be
unfair for the Appellant to have to deal with it without further time. . In James, the Tribunal concluded that it
did not have jurisdiction to re-determine Ms James’ appeal in not dissimilar
circumstances to the current appeal

I issued a Note on xxxx2023 informing the Appellant of the decision in James (and
appending it) and inviting him to consider whether he wished to seek an adjournment
of the hearing on 21 xxx or whether he wished to proceed. I indicated that I would
be content to adjourn if he wished to make that application but equally that, if the
Respondent were correct, an adjournment would “simply prolong matters to no
benefit” which would ultimately be a waste of the Appellant’s time and money

As it was, the Appellant did not seek an adjournment. Instead, he submitted a
supplementary skeleton argument advancing his position that in James the Tribunal
did not conclude that it had no jurisdiction; alternatively, the decision was contrary to
decisions in other (unreported) cases, and/or was wrong in law


For all of those reasons, I am satisfied that the Appellant meets the definition of a
Zambrano carer as set out in regulation 16 of the EEA Regulations. Although
regulation 16 is not preserved by the transitional arrangements which now apply, I am
also satisfied that the Appellant comes within the provisions of the EU Treaties which
apply to such a derivative right of residence.

It follows that I allow the Appellant’s appeal.

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Post by marcidevpal » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:49 am

@Askme234 wins Derivative Residence Appeal!!!!
askme234 wrote:
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Congratulations, A! Well done. Getting derivative residence in 2023 is an amazing accomplishment!

Thank you, also, for sharing what the judge said.

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The first thing you should do is share the appeal with the court administration.

Ask them to send a copy of it to the judge who is considering your EUSS appeal.

If no judge has been assigned to your EUSS appeal, ask them to add it to your file.

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The second thing to do is to send a copy of the Zambrano decision to the Home Office lawyers handling your EUSS appeal.

They may not be aware of the other appeal.

When they read the judge's decision, they may - may - decide to give you settlement.

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The decision may not change the judge's mind on your EUSS appeal.

The judge may still decide against you.

The key thing to look for in the judge's decision, is whether or not they made a finding of fact. The facts should state that you ARE a Zambrano carer.

If you send the decision to the judge, and the judge ignores the derivative residence appeal, the judge has made an error of law.

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Post by marcidevpal » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:22 am

Thoughts on @Askme's case

1.) The Home Office will argue the EEA Regulations are not relevant today. You should have a counter argument ready.

2.) The Home Office will introduce case law and misinterpret it. Make sure you read the cases the Home Office relies on. The judge may have said the complete opposite of what the Home Office claims.

3.) If anyone has a link to the Presidential Panel report, it would be good if you could share it.

4.) The judge will not be your lawyer. Even if the judge knows the Home Office is wrong, you must say the words that proves the Home Office wrong.

5.) Mostyn J argued Regulation 16 is preserved by the Citizens' Rights (Entry & Residence) statutory instrument and the EU Withdrawal Act (Consequential, Saving, Transitional and Transitory) statutory instrument. @Askme's judge does not seem to think so.

6.) @Askme's judge seems to imply Zambrano carers are covered by either the EU Withdrawal Act or the statutory instrument under the EU Withdrawal Act. The full name of the statutory instrument is the Immigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Act 2020 (Consequential, Saving, Transitional and Transitory Provisions) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020 (No.1309).

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Post by marcidevpal » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:47 am

EU Treaties for Zambrano carers (and more)

@Askme's judge said Zambrano carers can continue to rely on the EU treaties. Article 20 TFEU is the main one to know. Below are all of the treaties and international law identified by the ECJ in the case of Mr Ruiz Zambrano -

Legal framework - Relevant EU law
Treaty on European Union (TEU)
- Article 6 TEU (former Article 6 EU)

Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union(TFEU)
- Article 18 TFEU (former Article 12 EC)
- Article 20 TFEU (former Article 17 EC)
- Article 21 TFEU (former Article 18 EC)

The Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union
- Article 7 Respect for private and family life
- Article 21 Non-discrimination
- Article 24 The rights of the child

Other relevant international provisions
- Article 17 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (4) provides:
- Article 9.1 of the Convention on the Rights of the Child (5)
- Article 8 of, and Article 3 of Protocol 4 to, the European Convention of Human Rights (‘the ECHR’)
The court summarised each provision. You can see the summaries here -
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content ... 5615569243

Preliminary ruling
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content ... 2009CJ0034

Questions
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content ... 5615569243

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Post by askme234 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:52 pm

@ marcidevpal - Many thanks for your response. I will act on your suggestions above.

The judge did made a finding of fact according to the below extract from the decision

49. The central issue in relation to Zambrano is whether [f] would be obliged to leave the UK if the Appellant had to leave. I do not have to decide what the position would be
if [h] and the children were to remain in the UK and the Appellant were to leave. That
position is covered by Article 8 ECHR. The Appellant has been given leave to remain
on that basis in the past and I have no reason to suppose that he would not be given
leave to remain on that basis in the future were he to apply for it. That though is not
relevant to the issue here.

50. The question I have to ask myself is what would, as a matter of fact, occur. I refer to
the requirements of regulation 16 of the EEA Regulations as set out at [13] of the error
of law decision (which reflects EU law as it stood before the UK’s withdrawal from the
EU). I also refer to the Supreme Court’s judgment in Patel and another v Secretary of
State for the Home Department [2019] UKSC 59 (“Patel”) and to the extract from that
judgment set out at [14] of the error of law decision. The judgment in Patel is of
particular relevance in this case as, in that case as here, the relevant child was living
with both parents only one of whom would be required to leave.


51. For that reason, and because it was not clear from her written statement what the
position would be in fact if the Appellant were to leave, I asked [h] whether she would
stay or leave if the Appellant went back to xxxx. She accepted that this would be a
difficult decision not least because of the potential impact on [F] of the withdrawal of
the support which he is receiving from the authorities in the UK. However, she said
that the family would have to move with the Appellant as she felt that they would be
unable to cope without the Appellant. Although Ms Nolan sought to shake [h]’s
evidence in this regard, and [h] continued to say that it would be a difficult decision
for the reasons I have set out, she continued to insist that the family would have to
move with the Appellant. I accept her evidence in that regard.


53. I accept the Appellant’s evidence about the role which he plays in [f]’s life. As I have
noted above, that is confirmed by independent professionals (although I accept that
the statements are brief, and I do not have a full report in that regard). I am however
satisfied that, due to the family’s circumstances, the financial and emotional support
which the Appellant provides and the situation in particular in relation to [f], if the
Appellant left the UK, the family would leave with him.


54. Turning back then to regulation 16(5) as it applied at the date of the Respondent’s
decision, the Appellant shares primary care of [f] with [k] (in accordance with
regulation 8(b)(ii)). [f] is a British citizen residing in the UK. I am satisfied that [f]
would be unable to reside in the UK if the Appellant and [h] left the UK. I am satisfied
that [h] would leave the UK with the Appellant if he returned to xxxx, taking all
four children with them. It follows that I accept that [f] would “be compelled to leave
by reason of his relationship of dependency with his father” (as it was put in Patel). In
reaching that finding, I pay particular regard to the strong emotional dependency
which [f] has on his father as set out above.



3.) If anyone has a link to the Presidential Panel report, it would be good if you could share it.


I've copied and pasted from the decision notice below the Presidential Panel report link as requested.

The resumed hearing of the appeal was relisted before me on Fridayxxxx 2023. On
xxxx 2023, the Respondent sought a further adjournment. She did so on
the basis that the decision of the Presidential panel had recently been promulgated but
not yet reported. She wished to rely on that decision but considered that it would be
unfair for the Appellant to have to deal with it without further time. The decision in
question is Secretary of State for the Home Department v Oluwayemisi Janet James
(UI-2021-000631; EA/05622/2020) (“James”). In James, the Tribunal concluded that it
did not have jurisdiction to re-determine Ms James’ appeal in not dissimilar
circumstances to the current appeal

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:09 pm

@Askme's Judge & EEA Regulation 16 - Derivative Residence

Askme's judge said the following:
regulation 16 is not preserved by the transitional arrangements which now apply
Regulation 16 paragraph 5 directly applies to Zambrano carers.
Regulation 16, Part 2 EEA Rights the 2016 of the EEA Regulations says the following:
Derivative right to reside

16.—(1) A person has a derivative right to reside during any period in which the person—

(a)is not an exempt person; and

(b)satisfies each of the criteria in one or more of paragraphs (2) to (6).

.....

(5) The criteria in this paragraph are that—

(a)the person is the primary carer of a British citizen (“BC”);

(b)BC is residing in the United Kingdom; and

(c)BC would be unable to reside in the United Kingdom or in another EEA State if the person left the United Kingdom for an indefinite period.


The Citizens’ Rights (Restrictions of Rights of Entry and Residence) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020 says what concepts in the EEA Regulations should be preserved or modified:
Introductory

1. Unless otherwise specified, references within this Schedule to regulations or to Schedules are references to regulations within, or Schedules to, the EEA Regulations 2016.

Savings and modifications to definitions

2. Regulation 2 (general interpretation) continues to have effect with the following modifications to paragraph (1)—
There is no modification to the definition of a "derivative right to reside".

The only modifications are to the definitions of “civil partner”, “civil partnership of convenience”, “durable partner”, “durable partnership of convenience”, “marriage of convenience” and “spouse.

The definition of a "derivative right to reside" from the EEA Regulations says
General interpretation

2.—(1) In these Regulations—

“derivative right to reside” means a right to reside under regulation 16;


DISCUSSION

- There are no changes to regulation 2 in the Citizens’ Rights (Restrictions of Rights of Entry and Residence) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020with regard to a "derivative right to reside".
- The definition of a "derivative right to reside" specifically mentions regulation 16.
- The definition of a "derivative right to reside has been preserved by the Citizens’ Rights (Restrictions of Rights of Entry and Residence) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020.
- Therefore regulation 16 has been preserved by the Citizens’ Rights (Restrictions of Rights of Entry and Residence) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020

REFERENCES
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/1052/made
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... edule/made
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... aph/4/made

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:22 pm

SSHD v James

https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov. ... 05622-2020

Before THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE DOVE, PRESIDENT, MR C M G OCKELTON, VICE PRESIDENT

Between THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE HOME DEPARTMENT Appellant and JAMES Respondent
The respondent, whom we shall call “the claimant”, is a national of Nigeria and is married to a national of Nigeria. They have three children, all British citizens.

The claimant has made three applications asserting a right to be in the United Kingdom under the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2006 and 2016. Her first application was in May 2008; it was refused. Her second application was under the EU Settlement Scheme, made on 13 June 2019 and refused on 3 July 2020. She then applied again, for a residence card on the basis of her parental responsibility for her children. That application was made on 4 August 2020 and refused on 13 October 2020. She appealed against that decision. The appeal was heard on 21 June 2021 at Glasgow. On 29 June 2021 Judge Prudham issued the Tribunal’s decision allowing her appeal.

She was not entitled to the Zambrano right at the date of her application (because she had leave) and she has at no stage demonstrated her entitlement to it as a “last resort”.

For the reasons we have given we allow the Secretary of State’s appeal. The First-tier Tribunal’s decision erred in law. We set it aside. We substitute a decision dismissing the claimant’s appeal.
DISCUSSION
It is hard to get a derivative residence card if you already had leave to remain under Appendix FM. But, Askme's appeal shows it is still possible.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:28 pm

askme234 wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:52 pm
Hi @Askme,

You have two judges.

The judge on your derivative residence card made a finding of fact.

The finding of fact is that you are a Zambrano carer.

The judge on your EUSS appeal has yet to make a decision.

if the judge on your EUSS appeal does not make a finding of fact on your EUSS appeal, that would be an error of law.

First-tier Tribunal judges have ignored Zambrano carers' status as Zambrano carers. They have only mentioned their status under Appendix FM. That is an error of law. So, beware.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:00 pm

If you win...wait to tell us

Let's say you win and the Home Office loses. The Home Office can appeal or let it go.

If they see your post here, they may decide to appeal.

So, wait until their time to appeal expires. Just a thought.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:19 pm

@Askme's Win

Askme had leave to remain under Appendix FM. Askme then sought recognition as a Zambrano carer.

- In Akinsaya, Lord Justice Underhill of the Court of Appeal said a Zambrano right can't arise if one already has leave to remain under Appendix FM.

- In James, Upper Tribunal (Edinburgh) President Dove and Vice-President Ockelton said the Zambrano right ended completely on 31 December 2020.

- SSHD said Regulation 16 has ended.

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Askme won against all odds. The Court of Appeal and Presidential Panel were pretty negative.

Askme's judge said even if regulation 16 was not saved by the statutory instrument, the EU Treaties survive and Askme's status is preserved within the EU Treaties.
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You may want to argue Regulation 16 was preserved by the statutory instruments. You can also argue it was preserved by the EU Treaties.

PART ONE Common Provisions,

ARTICLE 2 Definitions
For the purposes of this Agreement, the following definitions shall apply:

(a) "Union law" means:

(i) the Treaty on European Union ("TEU"), the Treaty on the Functioning of the European
Union ("TFEU") and the Treaty establishing the European Atomic Energy Community
("Euratom Treaty"), as amended or supplemented, as well as the Treaties of Accession
and the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, together referred to as
"the Treaties";
(ii) the general principles of the Union's law;
(iii) the acts adopted by the institutions, bodies, offices or agencies of the Union;
(iv) the international agreements to which the Union is party and the international
agreements concluded by the Member States acting on behalf of the Union
ARTICLE 4 Methods and principles relating to the effect, the implementation and the application of this Agreement
1. The provisions of this Agreement and the provisions of Union law made applicable by this
Agreement shall produce in respect of and in the United Kingdom the same legal effects as those
which they produce within the Union and its Member States. Accordingly, legal or natural persons shall in particular be able to rely directly on the provisions contained or referred to in this Agreement which meet the conditions for direct effect under Union law.


2. The United Kingdom shall ensure compliance with paragraph 1, including as regards the
required powers of its judicial and administrative authorities to disapply inconsistent or
incompatible domestic provisions, through domestic primary legislation.
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:42 pm

UT President DOVE & Discrimination

In James, UT President Dove says the following:
11.... Broadly speaking, the effect of the Zambrano line of cases came to a halt on 31 December 2020.
12. Those affected might, if appropriate, be able to obtain leave under the European Settlement Scheme; or might be able to obtain leave in some other capacity.
Did you notice no explanation was given of what 'appropriate' means? Why should some Zambrano carers obtain leave while others not? Surely no Zambrano carers should get settlement if they the 'effect' came to an end in 2020. How is that position not discriminatory?

https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov. ... 05622-2020

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form - NEW

Post by marcidevpal » Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:55 pm

President Dove & Regulations 16 and 20

Per Dove,
12. ...There are no provisions continuing, even for the purposes of a pending appeal, regulations in the 2016 Regulations that are not listed in paragraph 6.
Paragraph 6 = Specified provisions of the EEA Regulations 2016. People with a derivative right to reside are not listed in this paragraph. See https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... ule/3/made

Background
She(James) then applied again, for a residence card on the basis of her parental responsibility for her children. That application was made on 4 August 2020 and refused on 13 October 2020. She appealed against that decision.


The Immigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Act 2020 (Consequential, Saving, Transitional and Transitory Provisions) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... ule/3/made
Pending applications for documentation under the EEA Regulations 2016
(6) Regulation 20 of the EEA Regulations 2016 (issue of a derivative residence card), continues to apply for the purposes of considering and, where appropriate, granting an application for a derivative residence card which was validly made in accordance with the EEA Regulations 2016 before commencement day.


The Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/1052/made
Issue of a derivative residence card
20.—(1) The Secretary of State must issue a person with a derivative residence card on application and on production of—
(a)a valid national identity card issued by an EEA State or a valid passport; and
(b)proof that the applicant has a derivative right to reside under regulation 16.
DISCUSSION

- President Dove says 16 and 20 were not preserved or saved after 2020. The Consequential, Saving statutory instrument says applications made before the end of 2020 continue to be valid. Ms James applied before 31 December 2020.

- The Consequential statutory instrument is badly written. I don't actually carer if it does say Zambrano carers can't appeal a refusal of a derivative residence card. At some point, you have to take a step back and think. If an application made before December 2020 is valid, then the right of appeal MUST ALSO BE valid. If you say applications still pending after December 2020 are valid, they must be able to appeal any refusal. It is simply a principal of natural justice.

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