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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:00 pm

mubashir1981 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:38 pm
Hi
Spoke to resolution center with manager. He ensured me that people like me having similar situations start getting letters in post so very soon i will also get letter in post.
Whn ask to raise with quality control mangment he said its not gona make any difference and ask to give call back in 2 weeks time if no letter received.
😔
Hello Mubashir,

How did you do the paper appeal for the Zambrano derivative card? Thanks

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by mubashir1981 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:04 pm

Ngoo wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:00 pm
mubashir1981 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:38 pm
Hi
Spoke to resolution center with manager. He ensured me that people like me having similar situations start getting letters in post so very soon i will also get letter in post.
Whn ask to raise with quality control mangment he said its not gona make any difference and ask to give call back in 2 weeks time if no letter received.
😔
Hello Mubashir,

How did you do the paper appeal for the Zambrano derivative card? Thanks
I did it online.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:13 pm

Please can you me the link? Thanks

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by mubashir1981 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:26 pm

Ngoo wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:13 pm
Please can you me the link? Thanks
https://immigrationappealsonline.justic ... k/IACFees/

If u need grounds of appeal ler ne k ow i will give u.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by mubashir1981 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:31 pm

Ngoo wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:13 pm
Please can you me the link? Thanks
I am doing on paper appeal not oral.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:38 pm

mubashir1981 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:26 pm
Ngoo wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:13 pm
Please can you send me the link? Thanks
https://immigrationappealsonline.justic ... k/IACFees/

If u need grounds of appeal ler ne k ow i will give u.
Yeah please I need it. Please I need assistance cos I have no idea how do it. Though I want to make a paper appeal. Many thanks

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by mubashir1981 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:54 pm

Ngoo wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:38 pm
mubashir1981 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:26 pm
Ngoo wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:13 pm
Please can you send me the link? Thanks
https://immigrationappealsonline.justic ... k/IACFees/

If u need grounds of appeal ler ne k ow i will give u.
Yeah please I need it. Please I need assistance cos I have no idea how do it. Though I want to make a paper appeal. Many thanks
I am at work will finish 6 am morning so will send u detail in morning

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:56 pm

mubashir1981 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:38 pm
Hi
Spoke to resolution center with manager. He ensured me that people like me having similar situations start getting letters in post so very soon i will also get letter in post.
Whn ask to raise with quality control mangment he said its not gona make any difference and ask to give call back in 2 weeks time if no letter received.
😔
Mubashir my good friend

Base upon what you Just wrote, technically everyone in some point would receive a decision but the question is WHEN

The person you might have spoken with is building a long wall so that you could not talk to the boss

Keep trying not 2 weeks but on Sunday then try again with another person. One out of the lot Will sympathise with you to actually do the right thing

Home Office is just stupidly only looking into the cases of member State citizen as they are their biggest problem.

As I said Mubashir, Zambrano_ombudsman showed you the process of complaining. Now that you have done your complaint and unfavourable result received, phone the PHSO people and officially log your case.

Then rewrite the Home Office complaint Department and CC(copy) to your MP and PHSO.

Officially your MP would have to send your case to PHSO for final redress

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:04 pm

mubashir1981 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:54 pm
Ngoo wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:38 pm
mubashir1981 wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:26 pm
Ngoo wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:13 pm
Please can you send me the link? Thanks
https://immigrationappealsonline.justic ... k/IACFees/

If u need grounds of appeal ler ne k ow i will give u.
Yeah please I need it. Please I need assistance cos I have no idea how do it. Though I want to make a paper appeal. Many thanks
I am at work will finish 6 am morning so will send u detail in morning
Ok thanks

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:05 pm

@Ngoo

Sorry to hear your refusal under Zambrano

Could you tell us your appeal right section Home Office wrote on your refusal letter.

Every case is different and for you to get good help, it would be Nice for as to know which section of right of Appeal Home Office mentioned.

Again could you let us know if you are still with the children father

Lastly how did you get your ltr

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:11 pm

LULUBABY wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:34 pm
Hi all, my COA dated 5th of February was received yesterday 10th of February. The letter states decision will follow SHORTLY. It just feels like a FILM which I thought was GENERAL and have now realised it is a HORROR FILM and it requires Parental Guidance. SEASON 1 BIOMETRICS : SEASON 2 COA: SEASON 3 DECISION. SEASON 2 feels like the CLIMAX of this EU SETTLEMENT story. I hope and pray SEASON 3 has a happy ending. May they not drag it to SEASON 4 APPEAL.
LULUBABY

Am happy to hear there is a progress on your EU Settlement application DR. All will be fine.

I like your satirical season write up

I can't hold into my laughter

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:20 pm

Hello Snooky,
Thanks for your response.

Reason why your application has been refused:

Your application has been considered under regulations 16(5), 16(8) and 20(1) of the immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016 as amended.

You have a right of appeal against this decision under regulation 36 of the 2016 Regulations.

We are separated. When my son was 7yrs , I claimed asylum in 2012 and it was refused, but the HO granted myself and my kids 10yrs route discretionary leave to remain.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:29 pm

Ngoo wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:20 pm
Hello Snooky,
Thanks for your response.

Reason why your application has been refused:

Your application has been considered under regulations 16(5), 16(8) and 20(1) of the immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016 as amended.

You have a right of appeal against this decision under regulation 36 of the 2016 Regulations.

We are separated. When my son was 7yrs , I claimed asylum in 2012 and it was refused, but the HO granted myself and my kids 10yrs route discretionary leave to remain.
Ngoo

Thanks for your reply. After carefully considered your refusal, I believe Home Office is totally wrong and your appeal would succeed.

This is regulations 16(8) which is incompatible to the new Patel vs SSHD and Home Office refused to change their guidance

(8) A person is the “primary carer” of another person (“AP”) if—
(a)the person is a direct relative or a legal guardian of AP; and

(b)either—

(i)the person has primary responsibility for AP’s care; or

(ii)shares equally the responsibility for AP’s care with one other person who is not an exempt person.

In this context, Home Office failed to apply the New Patel vs SSHD(Shah ruling ) of 16 December 2019.

On Regulations 16(5) You succeeded
(5) The criteria in this paragraph are that—
(a)the person is the primary carer of a British citizen (“BC”);

(b)BC is residing in the United Kingdom; and

(c)BC would be unable to reside in the United Kingdom or in another EEA State if the person left the United Kingdom for an indefinite period.

Regulations 20(1) reads

20.—(1) The Secretary of State must issue a person with a derivative residence card on application and on production of—
(a)a valid national identity card issued by an EEA State or a valid passport; and

(b)proof that the applicant has a derivative right to reside under regulation 16.

The Home Office have a culture of deception and not updating guidance early to reflect current courts ruling.

Go to the courts and make your case as shared responsibility is allowed under Zambrano.

Again Home Office disregard of protecting children within their boarders under section 55 of the Borders and citizens right 2009 and article 7 of EEA REGULATIONS then section 3(1) of the United nations Right of the child.

The Judges will be with you and trust me Home Office would not even come to court because they know is a loss game for them and win to you.

Mubashir will sort you out

Good luck

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:28 pm

@Snooky God bless you! I am terrified of going to court 😊 I will put in a paper appeal. I believe it will succeed by the grace of God.Thank you for the insight and explanation.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by LULUBABY » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:06 am

Goodmorning all, I just called the EU settlement centre and the guy who picked didn’t waste time to remind me that I spoke to a manager on the 8th of February and that the said manager asked me to give them a month and that I will receive a Decision within one month. I asked him if the ‘a month’ meant by 8th of March, he told me he couldn’t guarantee if I will get a decision then. I then asked him, “which means I should TRUST that Manager I who asked me to wait a month?”. He just snapped that I should give them a month as was told. He said that based on that he didn’t have any update for me. Honestly, it doesn’t feel like I just spoke to that manager 4days ago. I don’t know why I am so paranoid and feel like I have been waiting for ages. The fact that I don’t trust the Home Office makes it worse. Unfortunately, I am not a good shock absorber.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Chris90 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:58 am

LULUBABY wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:06 am
Goodmorning all, I just called the EU settlement centre and the guy who picked didn’t waste time to remind me that I spoke to a manager on the 8th of February and that the said manager asked me to give them a month and that I will receive a Decision within one month. I asked him if the ‘a month’ meant by 8th of March, he told me he couldn’t guarantee if I will get a decision then. I then asked him, “which means I should TRUST that Manager I who asked me to wait a month?”. He just snapped that I should give them a month as was told. He said that based on that he didn’t have any update for me. Honestly, it doesn’t feel like I just spoke to that manager 4days ago. I don’t know why I am so paranoid and feel like I have been waiting for ages. The fact that I don’t trust the Home Office makes it worse. Unfortunately, I am not a good shock absorber.
It's a sign that their cup is full of people wanting to resolve their cases and they ran out of excuses to keep us hanging. Not a bad thing. We are all due a decision and the pressure they face is a reminder of the lives on wait...

Do not get discouraged, you are entitled to a decision on you application or a valid reason for the delay and until one reaches you, you have every reason to want it sorted.. Try again tomorrow or later.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:10 am

LULUBABY wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:06 am
Goodmorning all, I just called the EU settlement centre and the guy who picked didn’t waste time to remind me that I spoke to a manager on the 8th of February and that the said manager asked me to give them a month and that I will receive a Decision within one month. I asked him if the ‘a month’ meant by 8th of March, he told me he couldn’t guarantee if I will get a decision then. I then asked him, “which means I should TRUST that Manager I who asked me to wait a month?”. He just snapped that I should give them a month as was told. He said that based on that he didn’t have any update for me. Honestly, it doesn’t feel like I just spoke to that manager 4days ago. I don’t know why I am so paranoid and feel like I have been waiting for ages. The fact that I don’t trust the Home Office makes it worse. Unfortunately, I am not a good shock absorber.
LULUBABY

Keep the fire on. At times the People we speak with are not even Managers at the HO

They doing everything to stop people chasing up the case

Home Office can't tell you to phone to or tomorrow.

Make a formal complain to the complaint Department and copy your MP and PHSO as Zambrano_ombudsman said in his post.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Yessy » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:15 am

I have been waiting since June. My 2.5 finished on 26th of January. I called the HO for advice and i was told my work would not be affected, something about CONTINUING RIGHTS... Anyway, I have had to get my lawyer involved. He's written them (the EU scheme) a letter. We haven't received any response. It's been 3 weeks. He has also helped me request for a new COA that would enable me to keep working. Fingers crossed...

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:25 am

I have received a long letter of apology again from the Home Office EU Settlement Scheme with a new grammer.

Sorry for this unacceptable delay Mr. Xxxxx.

Your case has now reached the CHARACTER ENQUIRIES STAGE.

We Hope to revert to you asap and we are aware of the anxiety this has put your family through.

Nonesense nonesense nonsense

This was written to my MP. Am Waiting also for the complaint Department to Respond to my letter dated 3/2/20 which was copied to my MP and PHSO as I have then made final complaint to the ombudsman.

After this legal complain someone email me from the Quality Control Management Team to say Home Office will get me a decision this week

So. Am Waiting

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Chris90 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:45 am

snooky wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:25 am
I have received a long letter of apology again from the Home Office EU Settlement Scheme with a new grammer.

Sorry for this unacceptable delay Mr. Xxxxx.

Your case has now reached the CHARACTER ENQUIRIES STAGE.

We Hope to revert to you asap and we are aware of the anxiety this has put your family through.

Nonesense nonesense nonsense

This was written to my MP. Am Waiting also for the complaint Department to Respond to my letter dated 3/2/20 which was copied to my MP and PHSO as I have then made final complaint to the ombudsman.

After this legal complain someone email me from the Quality Control Management Team to say Home Office will get me a decision this week

So. Am Waiting
Hey there,

I recently filled a complaint via email and received response saying they will investigate and get back within 20 working days. My question are

Can I take my dissatisfaction to my mp before they respond?
Can I take it to phso before they respond or before I take it to my mp?

Thanks in advance.

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