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Use this section for any queries concerning the EU Settlement Scheme, for applicants holding pre-settled and settled status.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Tinumo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:32 pm

Bruhhhh.
I am sorry
I have managed to type out my own refusal
Does it sound the same as yours ?
If yes it’s definitely a template been sent out to us no head or tail just mere excuses for holding 2.5
Now I want to know what is going to happen to those whose leave expired during the process or those with less than 28 days left..

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Chris90 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:37 pm

@ tinumo

Wow, sorry to hear, any judge going by the books and the rule of law/case law would quickly fix this .. they even say, should you have new evidence.... that's cheeky. There will not be any new evidence... They stopped at fact you currently have leave to remain under another route.

In other words. They refused because you currently have leave to remain and they would rather you stay on that leave..

It's not for them to decide which leave you get. You should get what you qualify or eligible for.. ring up and asked why you did not get a right to appeal. Does your child have a British passport and did you submit this with your application? I would go for administrative review and appeal.

This refusal letter sounds a bit too casual. Was there any other references besides the children best interest?

If your case get to the court's there is a chance it might give justice to you and the rest that follows. Do not stop here of you believe you are eligible..

Best wishes

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by LULUBABY » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:01 pm

Knikks wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:26 pm
Hello everyone

I have also been refused after 9months of long wait, and it’s on the same basis of holding a leave presently which is against the criteria for Zambrano application...it’s so saddening Buh life goes on, best of luck to everyone
Unbelievable

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by apollo_alpha » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:02 pm

Knikks wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:26 pm
Hello everyone

I have also been refused after 9months of long wait, and it’s on the same basis of holding a leave presently which is against the criteria for Zambrano application...it’s so saddening Buh life goes on, best of luck to everyone
Hi Knikks,

Sorry to hear that news. Did they give you a right of appeal?

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Knikks » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:13 pm

apollo_alpha wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:02 pm
[quote=Knikks post_id=<a href="tel:1888158">1888158</a> time=<a href="tel:1584131202">1584131202</a> user_id=230994]
Hello everyone

I have also been refused after 9months of long wait, and it’s on the same basis of holding a leave presently which is against the criteria for Zambrano application...it’s so saddening Buh life goes on, best of luck to everyone
Hi Knikks,

Sorry to hear that news. Did they give you a right of appeal?
[/quote]

Nope

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:36 pm

Tinumo wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:31 pm
Hello guys.
Not a good news from me.
My application was refused too after 9months dated 9of March
Currently on 2.5 leave to remain and a single mother of a British child who is 4years old and I have lived in the U.K. for over 12years...
It’s about 3pages
@ Tinumo
Sorry, to hear your refusal under the settlement scheme. Please if possible go for the administrative review. You applied when one of the criteria was to have leave to Remain. Please try and go for the review. Best of luck!

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:40 pm

Knikks wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:13 pm
apollo_alpha wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:02 pm
[quote=Knikks post_id=<a href="tel:1888158">1888158</a> time=<a href="tel:1584131202">1584131202</a> user_id=230994]
Hello everyone

I have also been refused after 9months of long wait, and it’s on the same basis of holding a leave presently which is against the criteria for Zambrano application...it’s so saddening Buh life goes on, best of luck to everyone
Hi Knikks,

Sorry to hear that news. Did they give you a right of appeal?
Nope
[/quote]


@Knikks,
Sorry to hear your refusal under the settlement scheme.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by mummy21 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:05 pm

Sorry to hear about your refusals. Was hoping for happy news all around.

Definitely no hope for me then. I don't even have valid leave at the moment.

Only positive is my son's passport was approved today.

Good luck everyone

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Darasimidd » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:21 pm

mummy21 wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:05 pm
Sorry to hear about your refusals. Was hoping for happy news all around.

Definitely no hope for me then. I don't even have valid leave at the moment.

Only positive is my son's passport was approved today.

Good luck everyone
I'm glad you got your son passport

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Tinumo » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:28 pm

@ Chris they are not disputing we have a British citizen child/ children, of course my daughter’s passport was included,she’s a mixed British, father is a white Caucasian, and he was never present in her life and I even included the family court judgement stating I am the sole carer so they have all the all evidence right in front of them, although she’s going to be 4 so it’s not been 5years since i had been a carer but then I had lived here since 08 which I submitted my Hmrc and payslips and bank statements as back as over 5years.
The reasons I had share the refusal details is for us all to have a comparison with others to definitely know it’s all scam and it’s a casual or template that has been sent.
No appeal
Or whatsoever just a admin review and I have an email I sent to them earlier in May 2019 stating my status and I asked if I was qualified and I was told I am and a paper form would be sent to me.
So what has changed now ?

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Knikks » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:30 pm

Does anyone knows a solicitor I can use to help with Administrative review application please, it doesn’t look like I can do it myself..

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:24 am

@LTR 2.5 Members Refused

Sorry is the hardest word that we can all shout out to you.

Before the year would end, we anticipated that come 2020 there would be smiles on our faces. It has turn sour grapes to some.

Most applicants, especially those who applied very early would have Administrative Review as per the guidance say.

Those who applied somewhere October (if am not mistaken) would have Appeal Right in court

The main guidance have changed almost 5 times and each stage of change gives new and older applicants different entitlement.

Home Office is a master of deception. Is all about forcing people to go for £1033 application, £1000 IHS, £19.50 Biomatric registration and £150 documents scanning.

As snake oil sales people, Home Office as redefined LEAVE TO REMAIN as persons exempted under EU SETTLMENT SCHEME which under normal domestic immigration laws such LTR is called persons subject to immigration control.

As I have said before, Home Office is now dealing with people who had ltr 2.5 years and mostly having some months left for their leave to expire

I think for those who dont have appeal right under the courts system should now do ZAMBRANO EEA application and with that one when refused, your appeal right under section 36 will be given.

I will say it again, EU Settlement Scheme is a British promise to secure all EU EEA Right Under the withdrawal agreement. Meaning EUSS is not under the juridiction of EU. Your rights are under eea regulations. I have said that before and asked everyone also to do EEA Zambrano. EU Settlement Scheme Mostly for people who have been already assessed by Home Office through EEA Regulations.

But that doesn’t mean if you qualify for the settlement scheme and hadn't done EEA Regulations application before, the Home Office should refuse you

All Home Office letters are templates and the only changes are

Date, your ref number, dob, name and address.

No discretion for people who have waited for 9 months. Sick sick.

Patel case is diluted, section 55 is twisted, Zambrano is fried.

Chris90 said something that Home Office can't choose for you which type of route you should pick. This is true with the law.

The only option for people without appeal right is to SUE THE HOME OFFICE for

1 contempt
2 discrimination
3 bringing the Department into disrupt

Cheers

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Chris90 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:12 am

Hey all,

This just proved to me this is all about keeping the number of successful applicants down,
at first they were happy to grant to those with leave already but month's later change of minds...

in other words they was happy to stop making money off some applications but now too much is coming in so yea we no longer willing....
this was what they was thinking about all this time, our cases was definitely on hold while they figure out what they are going to do.

It is these things why I do not trust home office, always working nicely for the SSHD but rarely for the non EU non UK public. .

Best wishes

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Tinumo » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:58 am

@ snookey do you think giving the administrative review a try would change anything ? As the application will be reviewed by the same set of people who refused it.
What grounds do one have to use to make a difference ?
Please does anyone know how long a renewal for 2.5 years takes at the moment in this rout alone I know about 10 of us more are due soon and many millions others in the U.K.
I am
Thinking of going for a premium service which cost extra 850 pounds to have it sorted in 24hrs - a week I had been burned by the home office and the thought of even letting them hold my passport and BRP for more than 6months all in the name of renewal gives me a shiver.
Because 6months and over from now is like jan 2021 I can’t afford to wait that long plus my current US visa runs out year end and I have 2 different occasions I must attend..

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Sabi92 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:31 am

Hi All

I have follow this forum for long time and i thought I share my experience

Timeline

Applied to the EUSS paper application on 29/08/19
Certificate of application 21/09/19
I currently hold a derivative residents card expires on 04/12/20
I don't have a limited leave to remain in any immigration law

It's been 7 months and no decision has been made

Why is my application is taking too long . I know some of you have been refused because you have LTR. But on my case i don't have LTR.

Thank you

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Tinumo » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:45 am

Just hang in there we waited for 9months...
Backlog so Many of us applied....
With different status...

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:52 am

@Tinumo

In contrast to the administrative review system generally run by the Home Office, the administrative review system under the EUSS allows an individual to submit further evidence, which will then be considered alongside their original application. An application for administrative review comes with an £80 fee.3 Dec 2019

This normally done by home Office legal experts employed as civil servants. Most times they do good job because they are there to save SSHD from going to court

As you have 28 days to ask for administrative review, try get quality evidence and prescriped letters of dependency form gp and school to add it.

I said Prescribed because these letters are beskope
as descriptive letters are standard

Will send you PM to know more about your case

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Tinumo » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:58 am

Great I don’t know how it works
Hope you can understand.
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Tinumo » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:01 am

@ snooky please send me an email
Yahoo dot com at the end of atinukemi16
Thanks

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:22 am

Sabi92 wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:31 am
Hi All

I have follow this forum for long time and i thought I share my experience

Timeline

Applied to the EU Settlement Scheme paper application on 29/08/19
Certificate of application 21/09/19
I currently hold a derivative residents card expires on 04/12/20
I don't have a limited leave to remain in any immigration law

It's been 7 months and no decision has been made

Why is my application is taking too long . I know some of you have been refused because you have LTR. But on my case i don't have LTR.

Thank you
Hi

You shouldn't get worried about any negative impact on your right of protection under the EUSS

As you have held Zambrano Derivative before, this means home Office have assessed you already and when the time comes for decision you would be granted under Annex 1, condition 3 rule 13 - 14 of appendix EU.

This means Settled Status under 5 years continuous leave on Derivative right to Reside.

Most of us here have done our 5 years already and some have again gone for another 5 years Zambrano derivative because when ours expired there was no Settlement scheme for Zambrano Right to Reside

Why it has delayed is that home Office don't give a toss about us because Zambrano Right is not their priority. But still will grant as most who have had Zambrano before either given presettled or settled status.

They wrote to me say all cases would be dealt with by 17 April 2020. Let hope no coronavirus flood their office so that they could meet their deadline

When I was refused Zambrano renewal in early 2019, I took them to court for it to be reinstated. My renewal was 16 February 2019 and refused in 10 June 2019 with old Patel vs SSHD. I challenged the error made in my decision and on 31 October 2019 my appeal was allowed because the old Patel case is very ambiguous.

I have then put in Zambrano Dr euss on 15 June 2019 and still waiting even though I have done first 5 years Zambrano and still having live Zambrano for another 5 years

Be calm and your settled status would be with you soon.

The only way to get it quick is to show to the home Office that there is a BEREAVEMENT in your family and by submitting the death certificate within days decision is made

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by LULUBABY » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:29 am

mummy21 wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:05 pm
Sorry to hear about your refusals. Was hoping for happy news all around.

Definitely no hope for me then. I don't even have valid leave at the moment.

Only positive is my son's passport was approved today.

Good luck everyone


Oh, finally. I am very happy that is now sorted.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by LULUBABY » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:35 am

Knikks wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:30 pm
Does anyone knows a solicitor I can use to help with Administrative review application please, it doesn’t look like I can do it myself..

Oh my God. This is so scary....

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:40 am

LULUBABY wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:29 am
mummy21 wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:05 pm
Sorry to hear about your refusals. Was hoping for happy news all around.

Definitely no hope for me then. I don't even have valid leave at the moment.

Only positive is my son's passport was approved today.

Good luck everyone


Oh, finally. I am very happy that is now sorted.
Don't say that.

All cases are different and moreover you have never had LTR 2.5 under domestic immigration before.

If you look at the refusals, HO insisting that Leave To Remain GRANTED under domestic laws would not help you to meet the requirements for EUSS

Meaning those without any LEAVE would definitely meet the requirements under Annex 1 of appendix EU and those who have had Zambrano right to reside and now with domestic immigration LEAVE TO REMAIN would also qualify

Also those who have finished their Zambrano right to reside already would also qualify

Cheer up

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by LULUBABY » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:45 am

snooky wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:24 am
@LTR 2.5 Members Refused

Sorry is the hardest word that we can all shout out to you.

Before the year would end, we anticipated that come 2020 there would be smiles on our faces. It has turn sour grapes to some.

Most applicants, especially those who applied very early would have Administrative Review as per the guidance say.

Those who applied somewhere October (if am not mistaken) would have Appeal Right in court

The main guidance have changed almost 5 times and each stage of change gives new and older applicants different entitlement.

Home Office is a master of deception. Is all about forcing people to go for £1033 application, £1000 IHS, £19.50 Biomatric registration and £150 documents scanning.

As snake oil sales people, Home Office as redefined LEAVE TO REMAIN as persons exempted under EU SETTLMENT SCHEME which under normal domestic immigration laws such LTR is called persons subject to immigration control.

As I have said before, Home Office is now dealing with people who had ltr 2.5 years and mostly having some months left for their leave to expire

I think for those who dont have appeal right under the courts system should now do ZAMBRANO EEA application and with that one when refused, your appeal right under section 36 will be given.

I will say it again, EU Settlement Scheme is a British promise to secure all EU EEA Right Under the withdrawal agreement. Meaning EU Settlement Scheme is not under the juridiction of EU. Your rights are under eea regulations. I have said that before and asked everyone also to do EEA Zambrano. EU Settlement Scheme Mostly for people who have been already assessed by Home Office through EEA Regulations.

But that doesn’t mean if you qualify for the settlement scheme and hadn't done EEA Regulations application before, the Home Office should refuse you

All Home Office letters are templates and the only changes are

Date, your ref number, dob, name and address.

No discretion for people who have waited for 9 months. Sick sick.

Patel case is diluted, section 55 is twisted, Zambrano is fried.

Chris90 said something that Home Office can't choose for you which type of route you should pick. This is true with the law.

The only option for people without appeal right is to SUE THE HOME OFFICE for

1 contempt
2 discrimination
3 bringing the Department into disrupt

Cheers

Honestly this Home Office behaviour should be covered on PANORAMA .

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Sabi92 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:32 am

snooky wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:22 am
Sabi92 wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:31 am
Hi All

I have follow this forum for long time and i thought I share my experience

Timeline

Applied to the EU Settlement Scheme paper application on 29/08/19
Certificate of application 21/09/19
I currently hold a derivative residents card expires on 04/12/20
I don't have a limited leave to remain in any immigration law

It's been 7 months and no decision has been made

Why is my application is taking too long . I know some of you have been refused because you have LTR. But on my case i don't have LTR.

Thank you
Hi

You shouldn't get worried about any negative impact on your right of protection under the EU Settlement Scheme

As you have held Zambrano Derivative before, this means home Office have assessed you already and when the time comes for decision you would be granted under Annex 1, condition 3 rule 13 - 14 of appendix EU.

This means Settled Status under 5 years continuous leave on Derivative right to Reside.

Most of us here have done our 5 years already and some have again gone for another 5 years Zambrano derivative because when ours expired there was no Settlement scheme for Zambrano Right to Reside

Why it has delayed is that home Office don't give a toss about us because Zambrano Right is not their priority. But still will grant as most who have had Zambrano before either given presettled or settled status.

They wrote to me say all cases would be dealt with by 17 April 2020. Let hope no coronavirus flood their office so that they could meet their deadline

When I was refused Zambrano renewal in early 2019, I took them to court for it to be reinstated. My renewal was 16 February 2019 and refused in 10 June 2019 with old Patel vs SSHD. I challenged the error made in my decision and on 31 October 2019 my appeal was allowed because the old Patel case is very ambiguous.

I have then put in Zambrano Dr EU Settlement Scheme on 15 June 2019 and still waiting even though I have done first 5 years Zambrano and still having live Zambrano for another 5 years

Be calm and your settled status would be with you soon.

The only way to get it quick is to show to the home Office that there is a BEREAVEMENT in your family and by submitting the death certificate within days decision is made

Hi snooky

Thanks for reply

A little bit more information. I live with my 2 kids 2 and 5 year old and also with my British partner as family.
Do you think home office may refuse because my partner can look after the kids. Although he is working full time

When i applied for my DRC back in 2015 they refused because my partner can look after kids but i challenge them in court and i win. Do you think they may do the same

Much appreciated

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