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Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Use this section for any queries concerning the EU Settlement Scheme, for applicants holding pre-settled and settled status.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by mubashir1981 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:50 pm

snooky wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:13 am
@Still Waiting-Zambrano Decision

Last week was a busy week for decisions and more were received.

This week it has cool down.

Hope Coronavirus wouldn't delay our anticipated decision.

Good luck to all members waiting and success to administrative review persons too
Situation is quite bad due to virus and i believe its gona effect on decision timelines too. Unless HO have facility to work from Home. Top of this HO always looking for little excuse to delay our application now they have it. May God bless us.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by LULUBABY » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:24 pm

Hi all, hope you all are ok. Home Office already isolated us and our paper applications when there was no virus. I wonder what they will do now. We have already been working from home anyway, via this forum, fighting and resisting them. They are working from their offices yet the waiting time is up to 10months. Who knows what will happen when case workers start working from home..... I hope they don’t QUARANTINE our applications.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:14 am

Copied!

When a person has acted as the primary carer of a British child for five years continuously and has never had any leave to remain they can still make an argument for settled status straight away as EU residence rights arise automatically. This also counts for those who have been undocumented Zambrano carers although their applications are highly likely to be heavily scrutinised.

It is advisable that those looking to submit applications without having any prior leave to remain will need to provide very detailed submissions and evidence to support why they should be eligible for settlement. The situation is slightly more complicated for those who have a British child who is aged five years who have had leave to remain under Appendix FM. The EU Settlement Scheme’s definition of someone with a Zambrano right to reside is a person without leave to remain under the Immigration Rules therefore it is highly unlikely that the Home Office would count the time spent with leave to remain under the Immigration Rules towards the five year settlement.





Frequently Asked Questions


Can you switch from the 10 year Article 8 route as a parent to the Appendix EU route as a Zambrano carer?

The applicant would need to let their leave to remain expire, which would naturally, be very concerning for them. It is worth noting though that if they are a Zambrano carer then even if their leave to remain expires they are (whilst we are in the EU) still lawfully present as a Zambrano carer, because this right arises automatically. They would have the right to live and work in the United Kingdom. However it is highly advisable to contact one of our immigration solicitors before anyone allows their leave to expire.


What to do if the applicant’s application is refused?

Rights of appeal are due to come into force in due course, but currently if you are refused you can go to administrative review or otherwise apply again. If there are any problems with submitting a fresh application then the next step would be to telephone the Home Office’s EU Settlement team.


Which is better, the 10 year route or the five year Zambrano route?

Some people will need to weigh up the pros and cons and consider which option is best for them. People who are already on the 10 year route, but are considering allowing their leave to expire and applying under the Appendix EU route, will need to think particularly carefully.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:35 am

I just found this article which was published mid last year, so the HO knew from the onset of the EU settlement scheme that people with 2.5 ltr would be refused and they left so many applications for more than 9months. And they were telling people that everything was ok. Honestly I don’t trust anyone that works there.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:09 am

@Ngoo

This posting was done when home Office tweaked the Zambrano guidance before March 2019 HC1919. This was undertaken because of the 2017-18 Patel vs SSHD CA ruling.

This is not in accordance with the laws of Zambrano and in a null shell becomes illegal and renders HO guidance non grata.

Since Patel vs SSHD Supreme court ruling 16 December 2019, HO has shown contempt by not rewriting its guidance to reflect how things should be done on Zambrano cases.

Remember there are two route to immigration at the moment.

1. Appendix fm
2 Appendix EU

Until 30 June 2021, HO can't choose for your destiny and force on you what direction of immigration one should occupy

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:12 am

LULUBABY wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:24 pm
Hi all, hope you all are ok. Home Office already isolated us and our paper applications when there was no virus. I wonder what they will do now. We have already been working from home anyway, via this forum, fighting and resisting them. They are working from their offices yet the waiting time is up to 10months. Who knows what will happen when case workers start working from home..... I hope they don’t QUARANTINE our applications.

Thanks for the humour
I love it

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:52 am

snooky wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:09 am
@Ngoo

This posting was done when home Office tweaked the Zambrano guidance before March 2019 HC1919. This was undertaken because of the 2017-18 Patel vs SSHD CA ruling.

This is not in accordance with the laws of Zambrano and in a null shell becomes illegal and renders HO guidance non grata.

Since Patel vs SSHD Supreme court ruling 16 December 2019, HO has shown contempt by not rewriting its guidance to reflect how things should be done on Zambrano cases.

Remember there are two route to immigration at the moment.

1. Appendix fm
2 Appendix EU

Until 30 June 2021, HO can't choose for your destiny and force on you what direction of immigration one should occupy
@Snooky,
For the fact that there is a Supreme Court ruling since 16th of December 2019, and the HO has turn a blind eye by not rewriting its guidance to reflect how things should be done on Zambrano cases, shows that they don’t really care about the situation on ground or what people are going through. We are not going to give up. Stay blessed.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by netqueen » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:49 pm

Hi All,

I have also been refused . Got my documents with the letter this morning.

The template letter is the same just with my details.

it is exactly 9 months now. What is most worrying is that i was on DRC till february 2019, and had LTR from December 2019 to June 2021. I will do the administrative review as i think i have been unfairly deal with. Look like HO s not taking into account the new case on Patel and Co.

Good luck every one.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Slimaz25* » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:02 pm

Settle status -ilr under zambrano. Hi all i am new to he forum and i have followed and read all forums based on zambrano. I am married to a british soldier.before I got married I had a derivative residence card under zambrano. Got married in 2014 , got a spouse visa and I also applied for an extention on my zambrano which I got 5 years .so inhaled two visa .spouse n derivative.been in the uk forb19years.juat last month my relation with husband broke down as a military spouse but I also held zambrano right under the ground of my first son ..so applied last week ,got coa 2 days after .I request passport back got within two days and today under zambrano I got ilr settle status. I did paper application. I have been working in uk for 5 years .sent in only my nine number to prove and one year of payslips plus bank statements. God is good.i did lost faith. Now I dont need to apply undrvhe grounds of my husband all because I was due for ilr under spouse but relationship failed .yet i got it under eu settlement .there is light at the end of the tunnel. There is hope.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by mubashir1981 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:27 pm

Slimaz25* wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:02 pm
Settle status -ilr under zambrano. Hi all i am new to he forum and i have followed and read all forums based on zambrano. I am married to a british soldier.before I got married I had a derivative residence card under zambrano. Got married in 2014 , got a spouse visa and I also applied for an extention on my zambrano which I got 5 years .so inhaled two visa .spouse n derivative.been in the uk forb19years.juat last month my relation with husband broke down as a military spouse but I also held zambrano right under the ground of my first son ..so applied last week ,got coa 2 days after .I request passport back got within two days and today under zambrano I got ilr settle status. I did paper application. I have been working in uk for 5 years .sent in only my nine number to prove and one year of payslips plus bank statements. God is good.i did lost faith. Now I dont need to apply undrvhe grounds of my husband all because I was due for ilr under spouse but relationship failed .yet i got it under eu settlement .there is light at the end of the tunnel. There is hope.
That was really quick. Many congratulations.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:37 pm

netqueen wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:49 pm
Hi All,

I have also been refused . Got my documents with the letter this morning.

The template letter is the same just with my details.

it is exactly 9 months now. What is most worrying is that i was on DRC till february 2019, and had LTR from December 2019 to June 2021. I will do the administrative review as i think i have been unfairly deal with. Look like HO s not taking into account the new case on Patel and Co.

Good luck every one.
netqueen

You had Derivative residence card and had done 5 years already.

Then the caseworker is totally illiterate.

The guidance talked about combination of stays and people who have had Zambrano before.


Your refusal shows HO can't even understand their own guidance. Is got nothing to do with Patel vs SSHD

Is poor decision

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by lilee13 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:58 pm

Hello everyone,

Is there a thread for EU settlement Scheme - (Chen route)?

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:17 pm

Slimaz25* wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:02 pm
Settle status -ilr under zambrano. Hi all i am new to he forum and i have followed and read all forums based on zambrano. I am married to a british soldier.before I got married I had a derivative residence card under zambrano. Got married in 2014 , got a spouse visa and I also applied for an extention on my zambrano which I got 5 years .so inhaled two visa .spouse n derivative.been in the uk forb19years.juat last month my relation with husband broke down as a military spouse but I also held zambrano right under the ground of my first son ..so applied last week ,got coa 2 days after .I request passport back got within two days and today under zambrano I got ilr settle status. I did paper application. I have been working in uk for 5 years .sent in only my nine number to prove and one year of payslips plus bank statements. God is good.i did lost faith. Now I dont need to apply undrvhe grounds of my husband all because I was due for ilr under spouse but relationship failed .yet i got it under eu settlement .there is light at the end of the tunnel. There is hope.

Congrats
Bless bless

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:21 pm

lilee13 wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:58 pm
Hello everyone,

Is there a thread for EU settlement Scheme - (Chen route)?
No thread

But we can help

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by mubashir1981 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:28 pm

netqueen wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:49 pm
Hi All,

I have also been refused . Got my documents with the letter this morning.

The template letter is the same just with my details.

it is exactly 9 months now. What is most worrying is that i was on DRC till february 2019, and had LTR from December 2019 to June 2021. I will do the administrative review as i think i have been unfairly deal with. Look like HO s not taking into account the new case on Patel and Co.

Good luck every

Sad news. I think it took 9 months to make template which they gona send to most of people. Do administrator review i think u should have ilr.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:30 pm

netqueen wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:49 pm
Hi All,

I have also been refused . Got my documents with the letter this morning.

The template letter is the same just with my details.

it is exactly 9 months now. What is most worrying is that i was on DRC till february 2019, and had LTR from December 2019 to June 2021. I will do the administrative review as i think i have been unfairly deal with. Look like HO s not taking into account the new case on Patel and Co.

Good luck every one.
@Netqueen,
I am sorry for the refusal.Please go for the review. Best of luck!

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Ngoo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:33 pm

Slimaz25* wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:02 pm
Settle status -ilr under zambrano. Hi all i am new to he forum and i have followed and read all forums based on zambrano. I am married to a british soldier.before I got married I had a derivative residence card under zambrano. Got married in 2014 , got a spouse visa and I also applied for an extention on my zambrano which I got 5 years .so inhaled two visa .spouse n derivative.been in the uk forb19years.juat last month my relation with husband broke down as a military spouse but I also held zambrano right under the ground of my first son ..so applied last week ,got coa 2 days after .I request passport back got within two days and today under zambrano I got ilr settle status. I did paper application. I have been working in uk for 5 years .sent in only my nine number to prove and one year of payslips plus bank statements. God is good.i did lost faith. Now I dont need to apply undrvhe grounds of my husband all because I was due for ilr under spouse but relationship failed .yet i got it under eu settlement .there is light at the end of the tunnel. There is hope.
@Slimaz25,
God is good!!!!! Congratulations

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Sebel » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:52 pm

@like EU Settlement Scheme (settled and pre-settled status)

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:52 pm

@Netqueen

Who is a ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’?

A ‘Zambrano right to reside’ is derived from wider EU law rather than from the Free Movement Directive 2004/38/EC and has been confirmed by CJEU judgments

A ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’ is defined in Annex 1 to Appendix EU as a person:

• who has satisfied the Secretary of State, including (where applicable) by the required evidence of family relationship, that, by the specified date, they are
(and for the relevant period have been), or (as the case may be) for the relevant period were, resident for a continuous qualifying period in the UK as a person with a derivative right to reside by virtue of regulation 16(1) of the Immigration (European Economic Area) EEA Regulations 2016 (‘the EEA Regulations’), by satisfying the criteria in either:

paragraph (5) of that regulation

paragraph (6) of that regulation where that person’s primary carer is, or (as the case may be) was, entitled to a derivative right to reside in the UK under paragraph (5), regardless (where the person was previously granted limited leave to enter or remain under Part 1 of Appendix EU as a person with a
Zambrano right to reside and was under the age of 18
at the date of application for that leave) of whether, in respect of the criterion in regulation 16(6)(a) of the EEA Regulations, they are, or (as the case may be) were, under the age of 18 years


This was copied from pages 8-9 of the 53 Zambrano caseworkers guidance for euss.

The highlighted words and phrases shows that Home Office is to deal with

1 Past - Zambrano holder
2 Present - Zambrano holder
3 Present continuous - Zambrano holder

The words

Were, was, is and continuous makes your refusal the most bogus ever coming from the HO

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Post by netqueen » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:45 pm

snooky wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:52 pm
@Netqueen

Who is a ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’?

A ‘Zambrano right to reside’ is derived from wider EU law rather than from the Free Movement Directive 2004/38/EC and has been confirmed by CJEU judgments

A ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’ is defined in Annex 1 to Appendix EU as a person:

• who has satisfied the Secretary of State, including (where applicable) by the required evidence of family relationship, that, by the specified date, they are
(and for the relevant period have been), or (as the case may be) for the relevant period were, resident for a continuous qualifying period in the UK as a person with a derivative right to reside by virtue of regulation 16(1) of the Immigration (European Economic Area) EEA Regulations 2016 (‘the EEA Regulations’), by satisfying the criteria in either:

paragraph (5) of that regulation

paragraph (6) of that regulation where that person’s primary carer is, or (as the case may be) was, entitled to a derivative right to reside in the UK under paragraph (5), regardless (where the person was previously granted limited leave to enter or remain under Part 1 of Appendix EU as a person with a
Zambrano right to reside and was under the age of 18
at the date of application for that leave) of whether, in respect of the criterion in regulation 16(6)(a) of the EEA Regulations, they are, or (as the case may be) were, under the age of 18 years


This was copied from pages 8-9 of the 53 Zambrano caseworkers guidance for EU Settlement Scheme.

The highlighted words and phrases shows that Home Office is to deal with

1 Past - Zambrano holder
2 Present - Zambrano holder
3 Present continuous - Zambrano holder

The words

Were, was, is and continuous makes your refusal the most bogus ever coming from the HO
@snooky
Thank you very much for these insights . I am copying and pasting them and have started building a case for my review. Yes I am a still a Zambrano carer and will not give this fight up easily with the home office.
I am encouraged by members on this forum to fight on. Thank you again

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by netqueen » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:46 pm

Ngoo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:30 pm
netqueen wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:49 pm
Hi All,

I have also been refused . Got my documents with the letter this morning.

The template letter is the same just with my details.

it is exactly 9 months now. What is most worrying is that i was on DRC till february 2019, and had LTR from December 2019 to June 2021. I will do the administrative review as i think i have been unfairly deal with. Look like HO s not taking into account the new case on Patel and Co.

Good luck every one.
@Netqueen,
I am sorry for the refusal.Please go for the review. Best of luck!
Many thanks Ngoo, will definitely go for the review.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:14 pm

Netqueen

Go to main caseworkers guidance pages 34, 59, 64, 72
Zambrano euss guidance page 12

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Post by snooky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:55 pm

snooky wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:14 pm
Netqueen

Go to main caseworkers guidance pages 34, 59, 64, 72
Zambrano EU Settlement Scheme guidance page 12

Add pages 15 and 16 main caseworkers guidance

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:40 am

@Members

Morning to everyone and hope you all well and kicking

Please remember to cancel all non essential activities to protect all and sundry.

Covid19 is real and could destroy our civilisation. Please follow guidelines from the authorities .

Bless all

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Post by snooky » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:41 pm

February 2020 Statistics (copied) for you info


Number of applications concluded

Concluded applications may relate to an application made in a prior month, and applications received in the latest month may not be concluded until a later month. Therefore,applications concluded are not directly comparable with applications received for the same period.

The number of applications concluded in February 2020 was 268,100. Of these, 55% were granted settled status and 42% were granted pre-settled status. Of the remaining applications, 4,300 received a withdrawn or void outcome, 2,000 were invalid, and 300 were refused. Of the refusals, the vast majority (more than 98%) were refused on eligibility grounds
, and the remainder (less than 2%) were refused on suitability grounds
.
Overall, as of 29 February 2020, the total number of applications that have been concluded was almost 3 million (2,998,300). Of these, 58% were granted settled status and 41% were granted pre-settled status. Of the remaining applications, 19,100 received a withdrawn or void outcome, 6,800 were invalid and 300 were refused.In February 2020, the Home Office began refusing EU Settlement Scheme applications on
eligibility grounds, and these are shown in this month’s statistics. Many of these eligibility refusals relate to cases that had been under consideration for several months and, in most cases, subject to repeated unsuccessful attempts to obtain missing evidence or information from the applicant.

Additional information on application criteria can be found in Appendix EU to the Immigration
Rules.

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