Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:56 pm

mubashir1981 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:37 pm
Looks like Homeoffice stop working as no more decision are coming. homeoffice still not sent me my copy of bundle as deadline is 30th march for my paper appeal. is it possible they home office ignore the court orders to not send bundle or documents request by court?

mubashir1981

Dont worry mubashir1981 should home Office refuse to send you their bundles. It shows, it is all good news for you. Is the same like home Office PO, not showing up at court without letting the judge knows.

Fon FTT tomorrow and enquire from them and also tell them HO hasn't followed due process. They will note it on file for the judge.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:01 pm

LULUBABY

What Zambrano Ombudsman's saying is the truth.

In law, you can seek ruling after you have followed the due process.

From AR to PAP to JR and when not satisfied you can launch court proceedings.

mubashir1981 · Post by **mubashir1981** » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:14 pm

snooky wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:56 pm

mubashir1981 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:37 pm
Looks like Homeoffice stop working as no more decision are coming. homeoffice still not sent me my copy of bundle as deadline is 30th march for my paper appeal. is it possible they home office ignore the court orders to not send bundle or documents request by court?
mubashir1981

Dont worry mubashir1981 should home Office refuse to send you their bundles. It shows, it is all good news for you. Is the same like home Office PO, not showing up at court without letting the judge knows.

Fon FTT tomorrow and enquire from them and also tell them HO hasn't followed due process. They will note it on file for the judge.

I am gona add note for judge about it if i didn't get it until Monday. My bundle is almost ready. I will send copy of my bundle to po and tribunal.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:37 pm

mubashir1981 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:14 pm

snooky wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:56 pm

mubashir1981 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:37 pm
Looks like Homeoffice stop working as no more decision are coming. homeoffice still not sent me my copy of bundle as deadline is 30th march for my paper appeal. is it possible they home office ignore the court orders to not send bundle or documents request by court?
mubashir1981

Dont worry mubashir1981 should home Office refuse to send you their bundles. It shows, it is all good news for you. Is the same like home Office PO, not showing up at court without letting the judge knows.

Fon FTT tomorrow and enquire from them and also tell them HO hasn't followed due process. They will note it on file for the judge.
I am gona add note for judge about it if i didn't get it until Monday. My bundle is almost ready. I will send copy of my bundle to po and tribunal.

Cool mubashir1981, you do what it lawful to make you case better. Provide to the court all what has been asked and forget about the HO.

Hopefully the judge would by a month time give you a an allowable decision.

Zambrano_ombudsman · Post by **Zambrano_ombudsman** » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:44 pm

snooky wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:01 pm
LULUBABY

What Zambrano Ombudsman's saying is the truth.

In law, you can seek ruling after you have followed the due process.

From AR to PAP to JR and when not satisfied you can launch court proceedings.

No, no no. I am talking about an appeal. An appeal is not a judicial review.

Judicial reviews are a challenge to the way in which a decision has been made, rather than the rights and wrongs of the conclusion reached.

It is not really concerned with the conclusions of that process and whether those were ‘right’, as long as the right procedures have been followed. The court will not substitute what it thinks is the ‘correct’ decision.

An appeal is brought to challenge the outcome of a case - the actual refusal. The court can substitute what it thinks is the 'correct' decision on appeal, if they feel UKVI got it wrong.

The appeal form many Zambrano carers will need is

FIRST-TIER TRIBUNAL IMMIGRATION AND ASYLUM CHAMBER
IAFT-5
Appeal against an in Country [Asylum/Immigration] Decision

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 0_save.pdf

d. Grounds of your appeal

If you have made an application for EU Settlement Scheme leave and your application has been refused or you have been granted pre-settled status but believe you qualify for settled status and believe the decision was not in accordance with settlement scheme rules complete box 6,

6. EEA Decision

If you believe the decision on your EU Settlement Scheme application was not in accordance with the settlement scheme rules please explain why.

Zambrano_ombudsman · Post by **Zambrano_ombudsman** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:50 am

Right of appeal against decisions relating to leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom made by virtue of residence scheme immigration rules

3.—(1) A person (“P”) may appeal against a decision made on or after exit day—

(a)to vary P’s leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom granted by virtue of residence scheme immigration rules(1), so that P does not have leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom,

(b)to cancel P’s leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom granted by virtue of residence scheme immigration rules,

(c)not to grant any leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom in response to P’s relevant application, or

(d)not to grant indefinite leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom in response to P’s relevant application (where limited leave to enter or remain is granted, or P had limited leave to enter or remain when P made the relevant application).

(2) In this regulation, “relevant application” means an application for leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom made under residence scheme immigration rules on or after exit day.

Zambrano_ombudsman · Post by **Zambrano_ombudsman** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:06 am

The correct form for applications made prior to 31 January 2020 is T480

Apply for a judicial review in an immigration or asylum case

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -form-t480

Application Notice
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 84-eng.pdf

The correct form for applications made after 31 January 2020 is IATF5

Appeal against an in Country [Asylum/Immigration] Decision

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 0_save.pdf

LULUBABY · Post by **LULUBABY** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:13 am

I was just putting my worries in writing because if you look at the various posts from most of us since after Brexit and also since the past weeks when people started receiving refusal decisions, those discussions have mostly been on the belief that refusals were given with only Administrative Reviews and not Appeal Rights. Some of the discussions have also been that appeal rights are for those who applied on or after 31st January 2020.
Those and Home Office delays have been our worries.

Where have you been?. The last time I heard of you was when you were kicking off. (I actually thought you have changed your ways, I should have known better).

I am not a Lawyer, I am not ‘a know all’. I POLITELY express my thoughts and worries and also at times relay my experiences. I am not a ‘SOUR GRAPE’. I am not ‘allergic ‘ to corrections or difference in opinions. I don’t get mad and call people names when I don’t like their opinions or when they disagree with me.

Besides I don’t dump information at people. I don’t jump into discussions and tell people, “I don’t know what your question is”, “I don’t know what you mean”, “I am not sure what point you are trying to make “, etc..... and dump more information.

Most of the time, the moderators, and other users are always there to POLITELY breakdown information, correct our mistakes, explain things, calm us, reassure us, encourage us and put us through.

I HAVE COME ACROSS THIS FORUM. BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. HOPEFULLY, EVERYTHING WILL WORK FOR GOOD.

(When I send posts, I will always make the effort not to give the impression that will cause people to be wondering if I drank some cans of ‘STELLA’).

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:28 am

LULUBABY wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:13 am
I was just putting my worries in writing because if you look at the various posts from most of us since after Brexit and also since the past weeks when people started receiving refusal decisions, those discussions have mostly been on the belief that refusals were given with only Administrative Reviews and not Appeal Rights. Some of the discussions have also been that appeal rights are for those who applied on or after 31st January 2020.
Those and Home Office delays have been our worries.

Where have you been?. The last time I heard of you was when you were kicking off. (I actually thought you have changed your ways, I should have known better).

I am not a Lawyer, I am not ‘a know all’. I POLITELY express my thoughts and worries and also at times relay my experiences. I am not a ‘SOUR GRAPE’. I am not ‘allergic ‘ to corrections or difference in opinions. I don’t get mad and call people names when I don’t like their opinions or when they disagree with me.

Besides I don’t dump information at people. I don’t jump into discussions and tell people, “I don’t know what your question is”, “I don’t know what you mean”, “I am not sure what point you are trying to make “, etc..... and dump more information.

Most of the time, the moderators, and other users are always there to POLITELY breakdown information, correct our mistakes, explain things, calm us, reassure us, encourage us and put us through.

I HAVE COME ACROSS THIS FORUM. BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. HOPEFULLY, EVERYTHING WILL WORK FOR GOOD.

(When I send posts, I will always make the effort not to give the impression that will cause people to be wondering if I drank some cans of ‘STELLA’).

LULUBABY

I like reading your post, there's always some humour coming out of everything you post

Look at your original post and check my highlighted words from it.

Keep it up. Without humour we are like a river without a cause and people without a root.

Dont be afraid of the darkness because we all first came out of it before we saw light and we can deal with it again when it's resurfaced

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:43 am

@Members

Good morning to you alll. Please remember Covid19 is real, live and deadly. Please follow government guidelines to protect yourselves and our young cherubs.

We all know now that Home Office is running a reduced service and most working from home according to my findings yesterday.

But that doesn't mean it is closed up and unworking organisation. Though some have been fortunate with our issues, our documentations and BRC are locked down also that's why they phoned us.

Be assured that when the storm is settled, good news will flow like a river. This is because they are still working but in shadow places and not updating computer systems.

This is what my MP told me yesterday.

Cheer up my sisters, brothers, mothers, and fathers to.

I know it wouldn't be long for that to surely come.

God bless

Zambrano_ombudsman · Post by **Zambrano_ombudsman** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:59 pm

@LULUBABY

You said there was no right of appeal. If a Zambrano carer reads your post, they could believe their journey ends there. That is not fair.

Your post is rude.

You appear to be upset because I called you out on the error in your post.

If you are not comfortable being corrected, then you should not post. It's just that simple.

I make mistakes, too. These legal matters are complex.

LULUBABY wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:13 am
I was just putting my worries in writing because if you look at the various posts from most of us since after Brexit and also since the past weeks when people started receiving refusal decisions, those discussions have mostly been on the belief that refusals were given with only Administrative Reviews and not Appeal Rights. Some of the discussions have also been that appeal rights are for those who applied on or after 31st January 2020.
Those and Home Office delays have been our worries.

Where have you been?. The last time I heard of you was when you were kicking off. (I actually thought you have changed your ways, I should have known better).

I am not a Lawyer, I am not ‘a know all’. I POLITELY express my thoughts and worries and also at times relay my experiences. I am not a ‘SOUR GRAPE’. I am not ‘allergic ‘ to corrections or difference in opinions. I don’t get mad and call people names when I don’t like their opinions or when they disagree with me.

Besides I don’t dump information at people. I don’t jump into discussions and tell people, “I don’t know what your question is”, “I don’t know what you mean”, “I am not sure what point you are trying to make “, etc..... and dump more information.

Most of the time, the moderators, and other users are always there to POLITELY breakdown information, correct our mistakes, explain things, calm us, reassure us, encourage us and put us through.

I HAVE COME ACROSS THIS FORUM. BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. HOPEFULLY, EVERYTHING WILL WORK FOR GOOD.

(When I send posts, I will always make the effort not to give the impression that will cause people to be wondering if I drank some cans of ‘STELLA’).

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:22 pm

Zambrano_ombudsman wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:59 pm
@LULUBABY

You said there was no right of appeal. If a Zambrano carer reads your post, they could believe their journey ends there. That is not fair.

Your post is rude.

You appear to be upset because I called you out on the error in your post.

If you are not comfortable being corrected, then you should not post. It's just that simple.

I make mistakes, too. These legal matters are complex.

LULUBABY wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:13 am
I was just putting my worries in writing because if you look at the various posts from most of us since after Brexit and also since the past weeks when people started receiving refusal decisions, those discussions have mostly been on the belief that refusals were given with only Administrative Reviews and not Appeal Rights. Some of the discussions have also been that appeal rights are for those who applied on or after 31st January 2020.
Those and Home Office delays have been our worries.

Where have you been?. The last time I heard of you was when you were kicking off. (I actually thought you have changed your ways, I should have known better).

I am not a Lawyer, I am not ‘a know all’. I POLITELY express my thoughts and worries and also at times relay my experiences. I am not a ‘SOUR GRAPE’. I am not ‘allergic ‘ to corrections or difference in opinions. I don’t get mad and call people names when I don’t like their opinions or when they disagree with me.

Besides I don’t dump information at people. I don’t jump into discussions and tell people, “I don’t know what your question is”, “I don’t know what you mean”, “I am not sure what point you are trying to make “, etc..... and dump more information.

Most of the time, the moderators, and other users are always there to POLITELY breakdown information, correct our mistakes, explain things, calm us, reassure us, encourage us and put us through.

I HAVE COME ACROSS THIS FORUM. BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. HOPEFULLY, EVERYTHING WILL WORK FOR GOOD.

(When I send posts, I will always make the effort not to give the impression that will cause people to be wondering if I drank some cans of ‘STELLA’).

Zambrano Ombudsman

Please let all have one love here. We are all fighting for the same objective.

Please this is my thought though,

Whenever you're posting, please summarise all what you write than quote and unquote. Meaning just posting the ditto ditto.

Most laws are complicated and that's why we are here to learn.

Zambrano_ombudsman · Post by **Zambrano_ombudsman** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:31 pm

snooky wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:22 pm
Zambrano Ombudsman

Please let all have one love here. We are all fighting for the same objective.

Please this is my thought though,

Whenever you're posting, please summarise all what you write than quote and unquote. Meaning just posting the ditto ditto.

Most laws are complicated and that's why we are here to learn.

I am not your secretary. If I post, it will be with references so people can draw their own conclusions.

If people do not want to read the posts with legal references, they should not read the post.

Moreover, people who give people advice without references are potentially asking for problems.

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:41 pm

Topic locked as become incredibly difficult to moderate and some members are offensive and insulting to others.

If members cannot post with respect and simple explanations, then please don't post. Don't assume everyone understand the legal jargon!! Members join the forum for advice, help and basic explanations to help them understand.

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