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Darasimidd
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Darasimidd » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:05 pm

Billyosa wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:18 pm
Darasimidd wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:58 pm
Billyosa wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:17 pm
Darasimidd wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:27 pm


Thanks for your response. My daughter became a British citizen in 2016, I've started my fee waiver application for my 2.5 year leave to remain application. I will be submitting it this week, I'm just waiting for a medical reports. I called eu settlement resolution to cancel the application in September but the manager kind of convinced me that it will not affect my benefit because I already get it. I honestly don't want to take any chances again.

Thank you all for your supports
That means if you are granted a pre settled status you will qualify for a settled status in 2 years time God willing.. which is not bad as compared to 7.5 years ahead... it's a dilemma and I feel for you... I will advise you to postpone the EU settlement scheme for next year and investigate on the benefits aspect of it. You still have Dec 2020 to apply and it won't make any difference if you wait for next year....
Good luck
Her British passport was stamped june 2016. I might reapply December 2020 then wait 6 months for home office response lol.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Billyosa » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:19 pm

Darasimidd wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:05 pm
Billyosa wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:18 pm
Darasimidd wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:58 pm
Billyosa wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:17 pm

That means if you are granted a pre settled status you will qualify for a settled status in 2 years time God willing.. which is not bad as compared to 7.5 years ahead... it's a dilemma and I feel for you... I will advise you to postpone the EU settlement scheme for next year and investigate on the benefits aspect of it. You still have Dec 2020 to apply and it won't make any difference if you wait for next year....
Good luck
Her British passport was stamped june 2016. I might reapply December 2020 then wait 6 months for home office response lol.
lol
It's not about the British passport , it is when she was registered as a British citizen which is on the certificate.
Give it a try when the time comes..

snooky
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:41 am

Darasimidd wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:09 pm
snooky wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:16 pm
Topsibelle wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:29 pm
Ain't going no where 😁 Snooky.

Explain this section to me pls

6.4 Regulation 23 and 27 of the Child Benefit (General) Regulations 2006 (SI 2006/223), currently provide that an individual who does not have a right to reside, or who has a right to reside only as a Zambrano carer, is not treated as being within Great Britain or Northern Ireland for the purposes of claiming Child Benefit.

When l got my DRF under Zambrano in 2014, l applied for child benefits and did get it. However, a year down the line, they said l am not entitled and asked that l pay back over £4000 which l completely ignored.
Topsibelle

Snooky here, I believe many people have explain it to you. To understand these laws you first have understand Section 115 of the Immigration and Asylum Act. This is a domestic UK immigration statute law which was first used to discriminate Zambrano derivative carers.

When it finally came to court, lady Hale who has been a champion for children by enacting, best interest of a child, every child matters policy under ZH Tanzanian case submitted to section 17 social Act.

Technically Zambrano have a right to reside under Sanneh case but Home Office has excluded Zambrano from bylaws under domestic laws.

But now that settled status is on, the right of Zambrano has been re-enshrine so Thank God
I have 2.5 years leave to remain due to expire next month. I applied for pre settled status in June and still waiting for decision. I am on full benefit because I look after my disabled child. I'm in the process of applying for application fee waiver pending eu settlement decision.

Now my question is if my pre settled decision come out positive, can I still continue with my 2.5 year leave to remain application?
The reason is because if I am be allowed public funds under the pre settled status, it will affect my disabled child. I'm just confused because I have to submit my fee waiver form this week. I don't know what to do to be honest

Someone please advise me
Darasimidd, how are you?

In respect of your question above, to my opinion it is very very problematic. As we all know that the rules of Settlement Scheme sees people with leave to remain as exempt people, the good news is all cases are considered in its own perculiar merit.

There are 4 to 5 stages of steps Home Office using to consider Zambrano cases. You might qualify as one because they would have to consider the case of Sanneh vs SSHD and SSSWP which defined when Zambrano RIGHT TO RESIDE starts.

The Judges agreed that from when you became a family member before becoming a qualifying person under EEA REGULATIONS.

The only problem is should you be given PRESETTLED STATUS, you could lose your benefits after 31st December 2020 if Britain leaves the EU without a deal or June 31st 2021 should Britain leave with a deal

For now if you are granted, nothing will change because you can still depend on your LTR

Hope you are satisfy

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Darasimidd » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:31 am

snooky wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:41 am
Darasimidd wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:09 pm
snooky wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:16 pm
Topsibelle wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:29 pm
Ain't going no where 😁 Snooky.

Explain this section to me pls

6.4 Regulation 23 and 27 of the Child Benefit (General) Regulations 2006 (SI 2006/223), currently provide that an individual who does not have a right to reside, or who has a right to reside only as a Zambrano carer, is not treated as being within Great Britain or Northern Ireland for the purposes of claiming Child Benefit.

When l got my DRF under Zambrano in 2014, l applied for child benefits and did get it. However, a year down the line, they said l am not entitled and asked that l pay back over £4000 which l completely ignored.
Topsibelle

Snooky here, I believe many people have explain it to you. To understand these laws you first have understand Section 115 of the Immigration and Asylum Act. This is a domestic UK immigration statute law which was first used to discriminate Zambrano derivative carers.

When it finally came to court, lady Hale who has been a champion for children by enacting, best interest of a child, every child matters policy under ZH Tanzanian case submitted to section 17 social Act.

Technically Zambrano have a right to reside under Sanneh case but Home Office has excluded Zambrano from bylaws under domestic laws.

But now that settled status is on, the right of Zambrano has been re-enshrine so Thank God
I have 2.5 years leave to remain due to expire next month. I applied for pre settled status in June and still waiting for decision. I am on full benefit because I look after my disabled child. I'm in the process of applying for application fee waiver pending eu settlement decision.

Now my question is if my pre settled decision come out positive, can I still continue with my 2.5 year leave to remain application?
The reason is because if I am be allowed public funds under the pre settled status, it will affect my disabled child. I'm just confused because I have to submit my fee waiver form this week. I don't know what to do to be honest

Someone please advise me
Darasimidd, how are you?

In respect of your question above, to my opinion it is very very problematic. As we all know that the rules of Settlement Scheme sees people with leave to remain as exempt people, the good news is all cases are considered in its own perculiar merit.

There are 4 to 5 stages of steps Home Office using to consider Zambrano cases. You might qualify as one because they would have to consider the case of Sanneh vs SSHD and SSSWP which defined when Zambrano RIGHT TO RESIDE starts.

The Judges agreed that from when you became a family member before becoming a qualifying person under EEA REGULATIONS.

The only problem is should you be given PRESETTLED STATUS, you could lose your benefits after 31st December 2020 if Britain leaves the EU without a deal or June 31st 2021 should Britain leave with a deal

For now if you are granted, nothing will change because you can still depend on your LTR

Hope you are satisfy
Thanks for your response Snooky.
My 2.5 years leave to remain expire end of December. I will be submitting my fee waiver form this week in order to extend my LTR. I might reapply (if possible) before December 2020. I appreciate all the advice given to me on this group. Thank you everyone 🙏🙏🙏

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by alana7 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:22 pm

Good morning all. I received the decision from the Home Office on my solicitors DRF 1 application and they refused again. They refused it under Regulations 16 (5), 16(8) and 20 of the immigration Regulations EEA 2016. They have stated that an unmarried partner is not a direct relative and a lasting power of attorney does not demonstrate that a person is a legal guardian. They expect a guardianship order and I have not provided one and my application falls for refusal on this basis so no further consideration has been given to any other evidence submitted and I have failed to qualify for derivative residence card in line with the Zambrano judgement under the immigration (EEA) regulations 2016, as amended.
I also have no right of appeal. I still have the EU Settlement scheme Zambrano application awaiting a decision but surprisingly I am in a good place about that because in the beginning of the decision they state that you are not required to hold documentation to confirm your right to reside in the UK as a beneficiary of a derivative right of residence. And I was refused under human rights application before so I will wait on that application.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:38 pm

alana7 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:22 pm
Good morning all. I received the decision from the Home Office on my solicitors DRF 1 application and they refused again. They refused it under Regulations 16 (5), 16(8) and 20 of the immigration Regulations EEA 2016. They have stated that an unmarried partner is not a direct relative and a lasting power of attorney does not demonstrate that a person is a legal guardian. They expect a guardianship order and I have not provided one and my application falls for refusal on this basis so no further consideration has been given to any other evidence submitted and I have failed to qualify for derivative residence card in line with the Zambrano judgement under the immigration (EEA) regulations 2016, as amended.
I also have no right of appeal. I still have the EU Settlement scheme Zambrano application awaiting a decision but surprisingly I am in a good place about that because in the beginning of the decision they state that you are not required to hold documentation to confirm your right to reside in the UK as a beneficiary of a derivative right of residence. And I was refused under human rights application before so I will wait on that application.
Alana7

Snooky here, Sorry to hear that your Zambrano Derivative was refused. Hmm, Home Office is kiling this route gradually.

They refused you because of REG 16(5)
1. (5) The criteria in this paragraph are that—
(a)the person is the primary carer of a British citizen (“BC”);
(b)BC is residing in the United Kingdom; and
(c)BC would be unable to reside in the United Kingdom or in another EEA State if the person left the United Kingdom for an indefinite period.

2. 16(8) A person is the “primary carer” of another person (“AP”) if—
(a)the person is a direct relative or a legal guardian of AP; and
(b)either—
(i)the person has primary responsibility for AP’s care; or
(ii)shares equally the responsibility for AP’s care with one other person who is not an exempt person


Please, did you go to Court for Parental Responsibility Order.?.

naa
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by naa » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:25 pm

Billyosa wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:19 pm
Darasimidd wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:05 pm
Billyosa wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:18 pm
Darasimidd wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:58 pm


Her British passport was stamped june 2016. I might reapply December 2020 then wait 6 months for home office response lol.
lol
It's not about the British passport , it is when she was registered as a British citizen which is on the certificate.
Give it a try when the time comes..
Hi everyone
My son was registered on the 27th August 2015 as a Brtitsih Citizen, I was granted Presettled status in September valid until 2024.I'm planning to apply for settled status next year Aug.. do you know of any case laws to support this. I know of the case of Sanneh but not sure how to apply it. Also do you know if i have to do the paper application again or I can do it on the app when the time comes. thanks for your time.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Karren123 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:33 pm

Hi,

Please if anyone can help, I received a post letter form Home Office stating that I must do a Biometric to the nearest Post office. After visiting 4 Post Office they told me that I must visit Croydon, but I can go to Eastbourne Library centre, she told me I must book an appointment online, when I check online, I couldn't do it and phone the agent she said I need my passport and original documents, but Home Office didn't give my Documents back only a letter stating I must show it to the Post Office, please anyone can tell me how to book for biometrics with only the letter from Home Office without supporting documents? Thanks

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:53 pm

naa wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:25 pm
Billyosa wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:19 pm
Darasimidd wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:05 pm
Billyosa wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:18 pm

lol
It's not about the British passport , it is when she was registered as a British citizen which is on the certificate.
Give it a try when the time comes..
Hi everyone
My son was registered on the 27th August 2015 as a Brtitsih Citizen, I was granted Presettled status in September valid until 2024.I'm planning to apply for settled status next year Aug.. do you know of any case laws to support this. I know of the case of Sanneh but not sure how to apply it. Also do you know if i have to do the paper application again or I can do it on the app when the time comes. thanks for your time.
Hi

If your Son was registered as a british citizen on 27th August 2017 then you will only qualify for SETTLED STATUS under Zambrano Settlement Scheme on 27th August 2022.

Come to Sanneh vs SSHD and SSWP, it only directs Home Office to properly assess your right under EEA REGULATIONS from when you became a family member before becoming a qualifying person.

Cheers

snooky
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:59 pm

Karren123 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:33 pm
Hi,

Please if anyone can help, I received a post letter form Home Office stating that I must do a Biometric to the nearest Post office. After visiting 4 Post Office they told me that I must visit Croydon, but I can go to Eastbourne Library centre, she told me I must book an appointment online, when I check online, I couldn't do it and phone the agent she said I need my passport and original documents, but Home Office didn't give my Documents back only a letter stating I must show it to the Post Office, please anyone can tell me how to book for biometrics with only the letter from Home Office without supporting documents? Thanks
Karren123

Oh hi Karren123, the biomatric registration is done at some specific post offices mainly the main ones at your borough.

They are right, you have to come Croydon to do it. No Appointment.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Topsibelle » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:15 pm

Karren123 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:33 pm
Hi,

Please if anyone can help, I received a post letter form Home Office stating that I must do a Biometric to the nearest Post office. After visiting 4 Post Office they told me that I must visit Croydon, but I can go to Eastbourne Library centre, she told me I must book an appointment online, when I check online, I couldn't do it and phone the agent she said I need my passport and original documents, but Home Office didn't give my Documents back only a letter stating I must show it to the Post Office, please anyone can tell me how to book for biometrics with only the letter from Home Office without supporting documents? Thanks
You do need your passport for biometrics at Croydon so request for your documents from the Home office.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Billyosa » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:24 pm

Topsibelle wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:15 pm
Karren123 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:33 pm
Hi,

Please if anyone can help, I received a post letter form Home Office stating that I must do a Biometric to the nearest Post office. After visiting 4 Post Office they told me that I must visit Croydon, but I can go to Eastbourne Library centre, she told me I must book an appointment online, when I check online, I couldn't do it and phone the agent she said I need my passport and original documents, but Home Office didn't give my Documents back only a letter stating I must show it to the Post Office, please anyone can tell me how to book for biometrics with only the letter from Home Office without supporting documents? Thanks
You do need your passport for biometrics at Croydon so request for your documents from the Home office.
This is not fair at all.. she might miss the 14 day deadline if it was stated on it? Why wont they make things easier for mankind?
We were lucky we had a Biometric recently. Travelling from Tottenham to Croydon would have been terrible for us...

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by mubashir1981 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:26 pm

Billyosa wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:24 pm
Topsibelle wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:15 pm
Karren123 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:33 pm
Hi,

Please if anyone can help, I received a post letter form Home Office stating that I must do a Biometric to the nearest Post office. After visiting 4 Post Office they told me that I must visit Croydon, but I can go to Eastbourne Library centre, she told me I must book an appointment online, when I check online, I couldn't do it and phone the agent she said I need my passport and original documents, but Home Office didn't give my Documents back only a letter stating I must show it to the Post Office, please anyone can tell me how to book for biometrics with only the letter from Home Office without supporting documents? Thanks
You do need your passport for biometrics at Croydon so request for your documents from the Home office.
This is not fair at all.. she might miss the 14 day deadline if it was stated on it? Why wont they make things easier for mankind?
We were lucky we had a Biometric recently. Travelling from Tottenham to Croydon would have been terrible for us...
I have done mine biomatric in post office without passport. Take driving licence with u just in case.

Topsibelle
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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Topsibelle » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:34 pm

Yeah a proof of ID is required is my point.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by naa » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:08 pm

snooky wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:53 pm
naa wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:25 pm
Billyosa wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:19 pm
Darasimidd wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:05 pm

Hi everyone
My son was registered on the 27th August 2015 as a Brtitsih Citizen, I was granted Presettled status in September valid until 2024.I'm planning to apply for settled status next year Aug.. do you know of any case laws to support this. I know of the case of Sanneh but not sure how to apply it. Also do you know if i have to do the paper application again or I can do it on the app when the time comes. thanks for your time.
Hi

If your Son was registered as a british citizen on 27th August 2017 then you will only qualify for SETTLED STATUS under Zambrano Settlement Scheme on 27th August 2022.

Come to Sanneh vs SSHD and SSWP, it only directs Home Office to properly assess your right under EEA REGULATIONS from when you became a family member before becoming a qualifying person.

Cheers
Thanks for the reply snooky. He was registered in 2015 not 2017

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Karren123 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:43 pm

mubashir1981 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:26 pm
Billyosa wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:24 pm
Topsibelle wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:15 pm
Karren123 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:33 pm
Hi,

Please if anyone can help, I received a post letter form Home Office stating that I must do a Biometric to the nearest Post office. After visiting 4 Post Office they told me that I must visit Croydon, but I can go to Eastbourne Library centre, she told me I must book an appointment online, when I check online, I couldn't do it and phone the agent she said I need my passport and original documents, but Home Office didn't give my Documents back only a letter stating I must show it to the Post Office, please anyone can tell me how to book for biometrics with only the letter from Home Office without supporting documents? Thanks
You do need your passport for biometrics at Croydon so request for your documents from the Home office.
This is not fair at all.. she might miss the 14 day deadline if it was stated on it? Why wont they make things easier for mankind?
We were lucky we had a Biometric recently. Travelling from Tottenham to Croydon would have been terrible for us...
I have done mine biomatric in post office without passport. Take driving licence with u just in case.
When did you do it? Apparently, they used to do it and now the Home Office canceled the contract and now taking by Agents and you have to pay for appointment alone, Croydon is free apparently, but in any case I don't mind to pay but after phoning to make appointment since I can't do it online, they told me they can't help me.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Karren123 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:49 pm

snooky wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:59 pm
Karren123 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:33 pm
Hi,

Please if anyone can help, I received a post letter form Home Office stating that I must do a Biometric to the nearest Post office. After visiting 4 Post Office they told me that I must visit Croydon, but I can go to Eastbourne Library centre, she told me I must book an appointment online, when I check online, I couldn't do it and phone the agent she said I need my passport and original documents, but Home Office didn't give my Documents back only a letter stating I must show it to the Post Office, please anyone can tell me how to book for biometrics with only the letter from Home Office without supporting documents? Thanks
Karren123

Oh hi Karren123, the biomatric registration is done at some specific post offices mainly the main ones at your borough.

They are right, you have to come Croydon to do it. No Appointment.
Hi, thank you for your help. Are you sure no need for appointment? I was been traveling to Eastbourne already, I don't wanna get to Croydon and telling me again, I must book an appointment. And what do they needs? Since, I don't have any original documents on me, Home Office still got it, all they send me is a Letter to do a Biometrics done.. Thank you

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:54 pm

naa wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:08 pm
snooky wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:53 pm
naa wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:25 pm
Billyosa wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:19 pm


Hi

If your Son was registered as a british citizen on 27th August 2017 then you will only qualify for SETTLED STATUS under Zambrano Settlement Scheme on 27th August 2022.

Come to Sanneh vs SSHD and SSWP, it only directs Home Office to properly assess your right under EEA REGULATIONS from when you became a family member before becoming a qualifying person.

Cheers
Thanks for the reply snooky. He was registered in 2015 not 2017
Sorry

Yeah 2021 August you would entitled for settled status

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by Nyamebeye » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:42 pm

Karen123

My nearest post office was in Cambridge and Peterborough so I went to Cambridge . I didn't need an appointment. I went very early on a sat morrning and was the first in the queue. I had my bio letter with me and was not even asked of any proof of ID. But take one to be on the safer side.

It's true the local post offices have lost the contract. Only designated ones do it now. You can Google it.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by alana7 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:38 am

snooky wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:38 pm
alana7 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:22 pm
Good morning all. I received the decision from the Home Office on my solicitors DRF 1 application and they refused again. They refused it under Regulations 16 (5), 16(8) and 20 of the immigration Regulations EEA 2016. They have stated that an unmarried partner is not a direct relative and a lasting power of attorney does not demonstrate that a person is a legal guardian. They expect a guardianship order and I have not provided one and my application falls for refusal on this basis so no further consideration has been given to any other evidence submitted and I have failed to qualify for derivative residence card in line with the Zambrano judgement under the immigration (EEA) regulations 2016, as amended.
I also have no right of appeal. I still have the EU Settlement scheme Zambrano application awaiting a decision but surprisingly I am in a good place about that because in the beginning of the decision they state that you are not required to hold documentation to confirm your right to reside in the UK as a beneficiary of a derivative right of residence. And I was refused under human rights application before so I will wait on that application.
Alana7

Snooky here, Sorry to hear that your Zambrano Derivative was refused. Hmm, Home Office is kiling this route gradually.

They refused you because of REG 16(5)
1. (5) The criteria in this paragraph are that—
(a)the person is the primary carer of a British citizen (“BC”);
(b)BC is residing in the United Kingdom; and
(c)BC would be unable to reside in the United Kingdom or in another EEA State if the person left the United Kingdom for an indefinite period.

2. 16(8) A person is the “primary carer” of another person (“AP”) if—
(a)the person is a direct relative or a legal guardian of AP; and
(b)either—
(i)the person has primary responsibility for AP’s care; or
(ii)shares equally the responsibility for AP’s care with one other person who is not an exempt person


Please, did you go to Court for Parental Responsibility Order.?.
No I never applied for Parental responsibility order. I don't have kids its just myself and my partner who I have a lasting power of attorney for.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by mubashir1981 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:08 am

Karren123 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:43 pm
mubashir1981 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:26 pm
Billyosa wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:24 pm
Topsibelle wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:15 pm


You do need your passport for biometrics at Croydon so request for your documents from the Home office.
This is not fair at all.. she might miss the 14 day deadline if it was stated on it? Why wont they make things easier for mankind?
We were lucky we had a Biometric recently. Travelling from Tottenham to Croydon would have been terrible for us...
I have done mine biomatric in post office without passport. Take driving licence with u just in case.
When did you do it? Apparently, they used to do it and now the Home Office canceled the contract and now taking by Agents and you have to pay for appointment alone, Croydon is free apparently, but in any case I don't mind to pay but after phoning to make appointment since I can't do it online, they told me they can't help me.
On 17 aug 2019. Search post office one which offer biomatric service. Go to there website untick all box and juat tick biomatric hope u find somethis near to u. No need for id even it say on ur letter. And no app required as well good luck.

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:44 pm

alana7 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:38 am
snooky wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:38 pm
alana7 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:22 pm
Good morning all. I received the decision from the Home Office on my solicitors DRF 1 application and they refused again. They refused it under Regulations 16 (5), 16(8) and 20 of the immigration Regulations EEA 2016. They have stated that an unmarried partner is not a direct relative and a lasting power of attorney does not demonstrate that a person is a legal guardian. They expect a guardianship order and I have not provided one and my application falls for refusal on this basis so no further consideration has been given to any other evidence submitted and I have failed to qualify for derivative residence card in line with the Zambrano judgement under the immigration (EEA) regulations 2016, as amended.
I also have no right of appeal. I still have the EU Settlement scheme Zambrano application awaiting a decision but surprisingly I am in a good place about that because in the beginning of the decision they state that you are not required to hold documentation to confirm your right to reside in the UK as a beneficiary of a derivative right of residence. And I was refused under human rights application before so I will wait on that application.
Alana7

Snooky here, Sorry to hear that your Zambrano Derivative was refused. Hmm, Home Office is kiling this route gradually.

They refused you because of REG 16(5)
1. (5) The criteria in this paragraph are that—
(a)the person is the primary carer of a British citizen (“BC”);
(b)BC is residing in the United Kingdom; and
(c)BC would be unable to reside in the United Kingdom or in another EEA State if the person left the United Kingdom for an indefinite period.

2. 16(8) A person is the “primary carer” of another person (“AP”) if—
(a)the person is a direct relative or a legal guardian of AP; and
(b)either—
(i)the person has primary responsibility for AP’s care; or
(ii)shares equally the responsibility for AP’s care with one other person who is not an exempt person


Please, did you go to Court for Parental Responsibility Order.?.
No I never applied for Parental responsibility order. I don't have kids its just myself and my partner who I have a lasting power of attorney for.
Thanks for the infomation.

With the route you chose under your refused Zambrano application it is very hard. The adult Zambrano dependancy requirements are like doing an article 3 human right application under domestic laws. They use a word call Absolute. High threshold

Sorry

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by nilemarques » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:46 pm

Hi all. Need a bit of guidance. As posted elsewhere on the thread, I am the parent of a BC and on the 10 yr route. I however did an online EU settlement scheme application. Got my COA last week. Just received following email requesting further info :

"You have applied for status under the EU Settlement Scheme.

 

To help us progress the application, please provide the following:

 

Firstly, please provide details of your EU sponsor as follows:

 

Evidence of the identity and nationality of your EU family member. This includes:

 

- Their EU Settlement Scheme reference number or

- Their valid EU passport or

- Their valid EU national identity card

 

This is so that we can confirm they are an EU citizen as stated on your application form.

 

‘Valid’ means that the document is genuine and has not expired or been cancelled or invalidated.

 

Additionally, please provide evidence of your relationship to your EU family member, as follows:

 

Marriage cert, birth cert etc"

My question is, besides my child's British passport (as evidence of EU citizenship) and his birth certificate as evidence of relationship, is thete anything else I would need to send. Does my child's British passport qualify as EU passport?
Thanks in advance

 

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by snooky » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:45 pm

nilemarques wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:46 pm
Hi all. Need a bit of guidance. As posted elsewhere on the thread, I am the parent of a BC and on the 10 yr route. I however did an online EU settlement scheme application. Got my COA last week. Just received following email requesting further info :

"You have applied for status under the EU Settlement Scheme.

 

To help us progress the application, please provide the following:

 

Firstly, please provide details of your EU sponsor as follows:

 

Evidence of the identity and nationality of your EU family member. This includes:

 

- Their EU Settlement Scheme reference number or

- Their valid EU passport or

- Their valid EU national identity card

 

This is so that we can confirm they are an EU citizen as stated on your application form.

 

‘Valid’ means that the document is genuine and has not expired or been cancelled or invalidated.

 

Additionally, please provide evidence of your relationship to your EU family member, as follows:

 

Marriage cert, birth cert etc"

My question is, besides my child's British passport (as evidence of EU citizenship) and his birth certificate as evidence of relationship, is thete anything else I would need to send. Does my child's British passport qualify as EU passport?
Thanks in advance

 
nilemarques

I think maybe as you were doing the online application, you might have chosen something which gave you question only on EU family membership.

Actually you have not said what YOU HAVE APPLIED FOR and let us assume is a Zambrano derivative, such application is strictly done on EEA REGULATIONS 2016 rather than wider EU Laws and you would have to do it on a paper form.

With my understand about the questions they have asked you to present its documents, you might have selected Family member of a British Citizen or EU citizen.

I may be wrong but give us more information

1 what you applied for
2 if you are a TCN
3 how long have you been a family member

Tala

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Re: Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

Post by nilemarques » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:09 pm

[quote=snooky post_id=1852397 time=1574862314 user_id=227412]
[quote=nilemarques post_id=1852380 time=1574858775 user_id=79403]
Hi all. Need a bit of guidance. As posted elsewhere on the thread, I am the parent of a BC and on the 10 yr route. I however did an online EU settlement scheme application. Got my COA last week. Just received following email requesting further info :

"You have applied for status under the EU Settlement Scheme.

 

To help us progress the application, please provide the following:

 

Firstly, please provide details of your EU sponsor as follows:

 

Evidence of the identity and nationality of your EU family member. This includes:

 

- Their EU Settlement Scheme reference number or

- Their valid EU passport or

- Their valid EU national identity card

 

This is so that we can confirm they are an EU citizen as stated on your application form.

 

‘Valid’ means that the document is genuine and has not expired or been cancelled or invalidated.

 

Additionally, please provide evidence of your relationship to your EU family member, as follows:

 

Marriage cert, birth cert etc"

My question is, besides my child's British passport (as evidence of EU citizenship) and his birth certificate as evidence of relationship, is thete anything else I would need to send. Does my child's British passport qualify as EU passport?
Thanks in advance

 
[/quote]

nilemarques

I think maybe as you were doing the online application, you might have chosen something which gave you question only on EU family membership.

Actually you have not said what YOU HAVE APPLIED FOR and let us assume is a Zambrano derivative, such application is strictly done on EEA REGULATIONS 2016 rather than wider EU Laws and you would have to do it on a paper form.

With my understand about the questions they have asked you to present its documents, you might have selected Family member of a British Citizen or EU citizen.

I may be wrong but give us more information

1 what you applied for
2 if you are a TCN
3 how long have you been a family member

Tala
[/quote]
Hi Snooky,
I am not doing a Zambrano application. I did the online EU settlement scheme that leads to either a pre-settled status or a settled status. I did select the family member of a BC/EU citizen on one of the options. I don't know if this is just a generic template they use to request more info coz I did attach a pic of my child's passport. I hadn't attached his birth certificate which I will now attach. Can't think of anything else to attach hence me asking. I am aware that I have to put in a paper application but just thought I would test the waters and put in an online application.

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