Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:52 am

Hi Snooky

I would like your help please

I have submitted the paper application under EU SETTLEMENT SCHEME (Zambrano)and still pending, do I need to apply again for Zambrano application under EEA Regulation or just to wait for the out come from EU Settlement scheme?

My timeline is as below

Paper application submitted 20th October 2019
Biometric finger prints given 10 November 2019
COA received 1st December 2019
Still waiting

I do hold BRP Card 2.5 years LTR outside immigration rules based on British Children


Kind Regards

Hi

I will definately say yes as I keep saying here on the board. EU Settlement Scheme is british offer to secure people with EU right to settle in the UK after we have left. It got nothing to do with EEA EU directives. As we are leaving the EU, the rest of the EU 26 also got their offer for British citizens and their family members. It is a reciprocrate agreement. Scratch my back then i will Scratch Yours.

But with the Zambrano principles, it is enshrine into EU law and it is your right under the principles of free movement and exercising your rights with your family member minor.

It is stronger for now and all those with Zambrano right issued by the Home Office would be given settled status or pre-settled status

This is because they need to be protected by the agreement for the UK to get deals and easy Exit.

So please do it

The two cards can co-exist under the redrawal agreement and beheld by someone at the same time.

Regards

Snooky

I thought if you make 2nd application the 1st one will be withdrawn that’s why I am not to sure and as I’m holding 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration rules as my other half is British Citizen and British Children.
Or will I be entitle to Zimbrano DRV rights?

Apologies if I m repeating myself just want to be sure before make another application under EEA REGULATION ZAMBRANO

Many Thanks

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:58 pm

Snooky

I thought if you make 2nd application the 1st one will be withdrawn that’s why I am not to sure and as I’m holding 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration rules as my other half is British Citizen and British Children.
Or will I be entitle to Zimbrano DRV rights?

Apologies if I m repeating myself just want to be sure before make another application under EEA REGULATION ZAMBRANO

Many Thanks

Not for EEA EU card and EU Settle Status Card

In accordance of the withdrawal agreement, you can have the two at the same time because they are same thing on the same route. The EU Settle Status protects your EU right

Read page 31 of 101, the main caseworkers guidance paragraph 4 v3

Variations

This section tells you how to deal with a variation of an application. An applicant can Can only have one valid application for leave under the Immigration Rules outstanding at any one time.

Application pending under the EU Settlement Scheme

If an applicant has an application pending under the scheme and then makes a subsequent application for indefinite leave or limited leave under another part of the immigrations, the original application will be varied by the second application and must no longer be considered.

Application pending under another part of the Immigration Rules

If an applicant has an application for indefinite leave or limited leave pending under another part of the Immigration Rules and then makes an application under the scheme, the original application will be varied by the scheme application and must no longer be considered. You must refund any fee paid in respect of the original application.

Application made under the EU Settlement Scheme and the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016

An applicant can hold status under the EU Settlement Scheme and a document under the Immigration (European Economic Area) Regulations 2016. If an applicant applies under one while they have an application pending under the other, you must process both applications and retain any fee that was paid for the application under the EEA Regulations.

Hi

Good news for those about to Register their children as british under the british nationality Act.

The Judges have found Home Office fees as UNLAWFULLY and disadvantge children

https://eachother.org.uk/british-child- ... igh-court/

Hi Snooky

On EU Settlement Scheme: person with a Zambrano right to reside guidance says Any person under domestic immigration rules the applicant cannot be considered a person with a Zambrano right to reside.

An Appendix FM application, or ECHR Article 8 claim, will be considered to have (or to have had) a realistic prospect of success where the applicant has family life in the UK with a British citizen and there is no apparent reason why such an application would be refused.
This means that an applicant cannot be considered a ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’ if they:
• have (or, as the case may be, for the relevant period had) leave to enter or remain in the UK (unless this was granted under Part 1 of Appendix EU)
• have never made an application under Appendix FM to the Immigration Rules or any other ECHR Article 8 claim, but where there is (or, as the case may be, was) a realistic prospect that, had they done so, this would succeed (or, as the case may be, would have succeeded)
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• have been refused leave under Appendix FM or otherwise under ECHR Article 8 but their circumstances have changed since that decision was made such that there is now a realistic prospect that a further such application would succeed – for example, the applicant applied on the basis of their relationship with a British citizen spouse, but the couple now have a British citizen child

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:54 pm

Hi Snooky

On EU Settlement Scheme: person with a Zambrano right to reside guidance says Any person under domestic immigration rules the applicant cannot be considered a person with a Zambrano right to reside.

An Appendix FM application, or ECHR Article 8 claim, will be considered to have (or to have had) a realistic prospect of success where the applicant has family life in the UK with a British citizen and there is no apparent reason why such an application would be refused.
This means that an applicant cannot be considered a ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’ if they:
• have (or, as the case may be, for the relevant period had) leave to enter or remain in the UK (unless this was granted under Part 1 of Appendix EU)
• have never made an application under Appendix FM to the Immigration Rules or any other ECHR Article 8 claim, but where there is (or, as the case may be, was) a realistic prospect that, had they done so, this would succeed (or, as the case may be, would have succeeded)
Page 20 of 51 Published for Home Office staff on 18 November 2019
• have been refused leave under Appendix FM or otherwise under ECHR Article 8 but their circumstances have changed since that decision was made such that there is now a realistic prospect that a further such application would succeed – for example, the applicant applied on the basis of their relationship with a British citizen spouse, but the couple now have a British citizen child

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed be the courts. Remember the courts are the to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. The are dearly beloved and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:06 pm

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:54 pm

Hi Snooky

On EU Settlement Scheme: person with a Zambrano right to reside guidance says Any person under domestic immigration rules the applicant cannot be considered a person with a Zambrano right to reside.

An Appendix FM application, or ECHR Article 8 claim, will be considered to have (or to have had) a realistic prospect of success where the applicant has family life in the UK with a British citizen and there is no apparent reason why such an application would be refused.
This means that an applicant cannot be considered a ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’ if they:
• have (or, as the case may be, for the relevant period had) leave to enter or remain in the UK (unless this was granted under Part 1 of Appendix EU)
• have never made an application under Appendix FM to the Immigration Rules or any other ECHR Article 8 claim, but where there is (or, as the case may be, was) a realistic prospect that, had they done so, this would succeed (or, as the case may be, would have succeeded)
Page 20 of 51 Published for Home Office staff on 18 November 2019
• have been refused leave under Appendix FM or otherwise under ECHR Article 8 but their circumstances have changed since that decision was made such that there is now a realistic prospect that a further such application would succeed – for example, the applicant applied on the basis of their relationship with a British citizen spouse, but the couple now have a British citizen child

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed be the courts. Remember the courts are the to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. The are dearly beloved and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed by the courts. Remember the courts are there to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. They got dearly beloved policy and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:32 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:06 pm

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:54 pm

Hi Snooky

On EU Settlement Scheme: person with a Zambrano right to reside guidance says Any person under domestic immigration rules the applicant cannot be considered a person with a Zambrano right to reside.

An Appendix FM application, or ECHR Article 8 claim, will be considered to have (or to have had) a realistic prospect of success where the applicant has family life in the UK with a British citizen and there is no apparent reason why such an application would be refused.
This means that an applicant cannot be considered a ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’ if they:
• have (or, as the case may be, for the relevant period had) leave to enter or remain in the UK (unless this was granted under Part 1 of Appendix EU)
• have never made an application under Appendix FM to the Immigration Rules or any other ECHR Article 8 claim, but where there is (or, as the case may be, was) a realistic prospect that, had they done so, this would succeed (or, as the case may be, would have succeeded)
Page 20 of 51 Published for Home Office staff on 18 November 2019
• have been refused leave under Appendix FM or otherwise under ECHR Article 8 but their circumstances have changed since that decision was made such that there is now a realistic prospect that a further such application would succeed – for example, the applicant applied on the basis of their relationship with a British citizen spouse, but the couple now have a British citizen child

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed be the courts. Remember the courts are the to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. The are dearly beloved and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed by the courts. Remember the courts are there to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. They got dearly beloved policy and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

Hi Snooky

Can I submit my valid ID Card instead of my passport for drv application as I am going abroad next month and I don’t won’t to risk not going if I send my passport and won’t be able to be returned to me with in few weeks

Thanks

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:20 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:32 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:06 pm

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:54 pm

Hi Snooky

On EU Settlement Scheme: person with a Zambrano right to reside guidance says Any person under domestic immigration rules the applicant cannot be considered a person with a Zambrano right to reside.

An Appendix FM application, or ECHR Article 8 claim, will be considered to have (or to have had) a realistic prospect of success where the applicant has family life in the UK with a British citizen and there is no apparent reason why such an application would be refused.
This means that an applicant cannot be considered a ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’ if they:
• have (or, as the case may be, for the relevant period had) leave to enter or remain in the UK (unless this was granted under Part 1 of Appendix EU)
• have never made an application under Appendix FM to the Immigration Rules or any other ECHR Article 8 claim, but where there is (or, as the case may be, was) a realistic prospect that, had they done so, this would succeed (or, as the case may be, would have succeeded)
Page 20 of 51 Published for Home Office staff on 18 November 2019
• have been refused leave under Appendix FM or otherwise under ECHR Article 8 but their circumstances have changed since that decision was made such that there is now a realistic prospect that a further such application would succeed – for example, the applicant applied on the basis of their relationship with a British citizen spouse, but the couple now have a British citizen child

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed be the courts. Remember the courts are the to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. The are dearly beloved and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed by the courts. Remember the courts are there to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. They got dearly beloved policy and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

Hi Snooky

Can I submit my valid ID Card instead of my passport for drv application as I am going abroad next month and I don’t won’t to risk not going if I send my passport and won’t be able to be returned to me with in few weeks

Thanks

Also all my supporting documents including the children’s birth certificates still with EU SETTLEMENT SCHEME, so I have not much to send with drv application.

Any idea what I’ve to do?

Thanks

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:26 pm

alana7 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:04 am

Snooky do you think I should apply for flr fp whilst my settlement scheme Zambrano is pending. I am a carer of an adult british citizen but as I have been reading the threshold is very high and the 6 month standard does not apply. Sorry I completely butchered the first reply and edited your previous post and I can't undo it.

Alana7


Your question has taken me back to re-consider the adult Zambrano and its higher dependency by reading and reading over again.

The level of dependency is the problem. What Home Office has done is to twist the case law "MS (Malaysia) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2019] EWCA Civ 580.".

By doing so they have equated exactly as Doing Human Right Application under Article 3(inhumane condition)

You will have to enquire from 2-3 solicitors to determine the way forward. Since Ms Malaysia ruling no one has gone to court so am short of advice.

All I know from main caseworkers guidance and derivatives guidance is that, to succeed, the Union member be Physical or mental impaired. It is stupid but that is Home Office.

I believe the Judges also have their own interpretation for Ms Malaysia vs SSHD as they the Judges are there to uphold the law.

For Home Office, all their domestic immigration policies on EU EEA members are illegal but they know only few will challenge.

As you havent got Zambrano derivative residence card before, doing flr fp could override the EU Settlement Scheme Application. It called VARIATIONS. These two can never co-exist.

Ask Obie on the board to also share some facts with you.

But you could take the chance and wait to see if you get through. But if it failed, appeal.

Thank you Snooky. I will ask Obie for his opinion

Good morning house, pls what is the standard time written on biometric enrolment letter? Thanks

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:32 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:06 pm

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:54 pm

Hi Snooky

On EU Settlement Scheme: person with a Zambrano right to reside guidance says Any person under domestic immigration rules the applicant cannot be considered a person with a Zambrano right to reside.

An Appendix FM application, or ECHR Article 8 claim, will be considered to have (or to have had) a realistic prospect of success where the applicant has family life in the UK with a British citizen and there is no apparent reason why such an application would be refused.
This means that an applicant cannot be considered a ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’ if they:
• have (or, as the case may be, for the relevant period had) leave to enter or remain in the UK (unless this was granted under Part 1 of Appendix EU)
• have never made an application under Appendix FM to the Immigration Rules or any other ECHR Article 8 claim, but where there is (or, as the case may be, was) a realistic prospect that, had they done so, this would succeed (or, as the case may be, would have succeeded)
Page 20 of 51 Published for Home Office staff on 18 November 2019
• have been refused leave under Appendix FM or otherwise under ECHR Article 8 but their circumstances have changed since that decision was made such that there is now a realistic prospect that a further such application would succeed – for example, the applicant applied on the basis of their relationship with a British citizen spouse, but the couple now have a British citizen child

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed be the courts. Remember the courts are the to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. The are dearly beloved and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed by the courts. Remember the courts are there to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. They got dearly beloved policy and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

@Obie, and every other learned Fam, please could you help shed more light on what @snooky said EUSS Applications from people with 2.5 years LTR. What are we expected to do, to transition to Zambrano or wait for the EUSS decisions? Thanks

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:20 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:32 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:06 pm

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:54 pm

Hi Snooky

On EU Settlement Scheme: person with a Zambrano right to reside guidance says Any person under domestic immigration rules the applicant cannot be considered a person with a Zambrano right to reside.

An Appendix FM application, or ECHR Article 8 claim, will be considered to have (or to have had) a realistic prospect of success where the applicant has family life in the UK with a British citizen and there is no apparent reason why such an application would be refused.
This means that an applicant cannot be considered a ‘person with a Zambrano right to reside’ if they:
• have (or, as the case may be, for the relevant period had) leave to enter or remain in the UK (unless this was granted under Part 1 of Appendix EU)
• have never made an application under Appendix FM to the Immigration Rules or any other ECHR Article 8 claim, but where there is (or, as the case may be, was) a realistic prospect that, had they done so, this would succeed (or, as the case may be, would have succeeded)
Page 20 of 51 Published for Home Office staff on 18 November 2019
• have been refused leave under Appendix FM or otherwise under ECHR Article 8 but their circumstances have changed since that decision was made such that there is now a realistic prospect that a further such application would succeed – for example, the applicant applied on the basis of their relationship with a British citizen spouse, but the couple now have a British citizen child

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed be the courts. Remember the courts are the to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. The are dearly beloved and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed by the courts. Remember the courts are there to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. They got dearly beloved policy and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

Hi Snooky

Can I submit my valid ID Card instead of my passport for drv application as I am going abroad next month and I don’t won’t to risk not going if I send my passport and won’t be able to be returned to me with in few weeks

Thanks

Home Office should accept a valid ID for the application with reason but we all know Home Office is looking for a small problem to make matters worse (to reject application without passport).

I will say never do Zambrano without a valid passport even the Judges look through if all requirements for the application has been meet before jumping to the Article 20 of TFEU.

Make sure you get all your letters showing your kids depend on you and you are the primary carer.

As you are travelling, wait till you’re back to bang in your application. For EEA derivative application has a requirements of strictly up to six months to be decided.

Prettymum wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:14 am

Good morning house, pls what is the standard time written on biometric enrolment letter? Thanks

Hi

To enrol, Home Office letter instruct you to do biomatric registration 15 days from the date of the letter. The days are working days so holidays, Sundays and Saturdays are excluded.

Remember, all Home Office letters to you are to be given 2 more days grace period when received

So a letter dated 15 and received 17 must be started counting from 17 as the date in accordance of legal procedure

snooky wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:27 pm

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:20 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:32 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:06 pm

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed be the courts. Remember the courts are the to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. The are dearly beloved and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed by the courts. Remember the courts are there to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. They got dearly beloved policy and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

Hi Snooky

Can I submit my valid ID Card instead of my passport for drv application as I am going abroad next month and I don’t won’t to risk not going if I send my passport and won’t be able to be returned to me with in few weeks

Thanks

Home Office should accept a valid ID for the application with reason but we all know Home Office is looking for a small problem to make matters worse (to reject application without passport).

I will say never do Zambrano without a valid passport even the Judges look through if all requirements for the application has been meet before jumping to the Article 20 of TFEU.

Make sure you get all your letters showing your kids depend on you and you are the primary carer.

As you are travelling, wait till you’re back to bang in your application. For EEA derivative application has a requirements of strictly up to six months to be decided.

Thank you Snooky totally agree.

All the letters and birth certificates are with EU SETTLEMENT SCHEME application.
Can I send a cover letter explaining that all documents still with HO?

Many thanks

IST wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:59 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:27 pm

IST wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:20 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:32 pm

Hi

That part of law is a Home Office policy not statute law. That’s why Patel, Shah vs SSHD has be trashed by the courts. Remember the courts are there to protect the law and make it work.

You might have 2.5 LTR under domestic immigration law but still identify as a Zambrano C34/09. It is all about circumstances and what you think you want.
At the moment there are 2 immigration routes and you could chose and pick whichever. What Home Office is doing is to close the door for EU route because

1. It is free
2. Cheap
3. They dont have juridiction
4. They got dearly beloved policy and discriminate again TNC
5. Home Office crave for power

Dont worry. Should you think you are today a Zambrano carer, all what you have to do is to show dependency and beyound reasonable doubt that should you be removed, the british child would be forced to leave the member State. It is call compulsion. Thats all about Shah precedent

Hi Snooky

Can I submit my valid ID Card instead of my passport for drv application as I am going abroad next month and I don’t won’t to risk not going if I send my passport and won’t be able to be returned to me with in few weeks

Thanks

Home Office should accept a valid ID for the application with reason but we all know Home Office is looking for a small problem to make matters worse (to reject application without passport).

I will say never do Zambrano without a valid passport even the Judges look through if all requirements for the application has been meet before jumping to the Article 20 of TFEU.

Make sure you get all your letters showing your kids depend on you and you are the primary carer.

As you are travelling, wait till you’re back to bang in your application. For EEA derivative application has a requirements of strictly up to six months to be decided.

Thank you Snooky totally agree.

All the letters and birth certificates are with EU SETTLEMENT SCHEME application.
Can I send a cover letter explaining that all documents still with HO?

Many thanks

Yes because according to the EEA Regulation and Home Office guidance revised in 2016 regulations, it should be fine as the reason for not adding those documents is that, the same (Permanent Migration
The Capital Old Hall Liverpol) has your documents due to you already applied for a EU Settlement Scheme Zambrano derivative right and still been considered.

Honestly it the same Office dealiing with both Zambrano and EU Settlement Scheme.

But as I said before, Home Office doesnt follow rule of law because of their tick boxes type of dealing with cases and with unqualify caseworkers

Give it a short

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:28 pm

Hi

Good news for those about to Register their children as british under the british nationality Act.

The Judges have found Home Office fees as UNLAWFULLY and disadvantge children

https://eachother.org.uk/british-child- ... igh-court/

This is fantastic news and well overdue.

Topsibelle wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:33 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:28 pm

Hi

Good news for those about to Register their children as british under the british nationality Act.

The Judges have found Home Office fees as UNLAWFULLY and disadvantge children

https://eachother.org.uk/british-child- ... igh-court/

This is fantastic news and well overdue.

british-citizenship/children-s-registra ... 94150.html

british-citizenship/child-registeration ... l#p1859841

Members, this is to let you know that my Zambrano derivative right BRP CARD is received today after a long road through Court

****Will update you when my settled status card too is received.******

Time line

Zambrano renewal february 16th 2019
Zambrano refused June 10th 2019
Appealled logged on 15th of June 2019
Appeal heard and allowed on 31st October 2019
Acceptance of promulgation 16th December 2019

Time line

Zambrano DR EU Settlement application 15th June 2019
Biometric 23rd June 2019
COA received 7th July 2019
PAP done 15th October 2019
PAP response from HO 25th October 2019
Home Office seeking more time letter 16th December 2019

BRP ZAMBRANO DERIVATIVE received 23/12/20

snooky wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:35 pm

Members, this is to let you know that my Zambrano derivative right BRP CARD is received today after a long road through Court

****Will update you when my settled status card too is received.******

Time line

Zambrano renewal february 16th 2019
Zambrano refused June 10th 2019
Appealled logged on 15th of June 2019
Appeal heard and allowed on 31st October 2019
Acceptance of promulgation 16th December 2019

Time line

Zambrano DR EU Settlement application 15th June 2019
Biometric 23rd June 2019
COA received 7th July 2019
PAP done 15th October 2019
PAP response from HO 25th October 2019
Home Office seeking more time letter 16th December 2019

BRP ZAMBRANO DERIVATIVE received 23/12/20

You tenacious human being. Congratulations to you and your family. I'm really happy for you. Thank you for your selfless and support here.

Topsibelle wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:49 pm

snooky wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:35 pm

Members, this is to let you know that my Zambrano derivative right BRP CARD is received today after a long road through Court

****Will update you when my settled status card too is received.******

Time line

Zambrano renewal february 16th 2019
Zambrano refused June 10th 2019
Appealled logged on 15th of June 2019
Appeal heard and allowed on 31st October 2019
Acceptance of promulgation 16th December 2019

Time line

Zambrano DR EU Settlement application 15th June 2019
Biometric 23rd June 2019
COA received 7th July 2019
PAP done 15th October 2019
PAP response from HO 25th October 2019
Home Office seeking more time letter 16th December 2019

BRP ZAMBRANO DERIVATIVE received 23/12/20

You tenacious human being. Congratulations to you and your family. I'm really happy for you. Thank you for your selfless and support here.

Tnx Fam
Learnt alot from all and Tnx also for the support

Congratulations Snooky

snooky wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:35 pm

Members, this is to let you know that my Zambrano derivative right BRP CARD is received today after a long road through Court

****Will update you when my settled status card too is received.******

Time line

Zambrano renewal february 16th 2019
Zambrano refused June 10th 2019
Appealled logged on 15th of June 2019
Appeal heard and allowed on 31st October 2019
Acceptance of promulgation 16th December 2019

Time line

Zambrano DR EU Settlement application 15th June 2019
Biometric 23rd June 2019
COA received 7th July 2019
PAP done 15th October 2019
PAP response from HO 25th October 2019
Home Office seeking more time letter 16th December 2019

BRP ZAMBRANO DERIVATIVE received 23/12/20

Congratulations snooky. What a great way to end the year.

snooky wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:35 pm

Members, this is to let you know that my Zambrano derivative right BRP CARD is received today after a long road through Court

****Will update you when my settled status card too is received.******

Time line

Zambrano renewal february 16th 2019
Zambrano refused June 10th 2019
Appealled logged on 15th of June 2019
Appeal heard and allowed on 31st October 2019
Acceptance of promulgation 16th December 2019

Time line

Zambrano DR EU Settlement application 15th June 2019
Biometric 23rd June 2019
COA received 7th July 2019
PAP done 15th October 2019
PAP response from HO 25th October 2019
Home Office seeking more time letter 16th December 2019

BRP ZAMBRANO DERIVATIVE received 23/12/20

Congratulations, so happy for you.

Congratulations snooky