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EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by arsenik1973 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:29 pm

Hi Guys

I need your helps about my situation.I appreciate for all your response

I am EEA Spouse and my wife is polish origin but let me clarify my story first

We got married and I got my EEA1 Visa in june 2009.And I know this is start of my 5 years period.Then I got my EEA2.Then my wife got her BC. And soon my 5 years period will end in in june 2014(hope I am right?).

So my question is; can I apply for BC directly or will I have to apply for EEA4(Independent visa) and then BC?(as my wife was granted for naturalization)

Please help thanks :(

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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by Jambo » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:27 am

Check Q5 in the FAQ (link below).
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by arsenik1973 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:33 am

Jambo wrote:Check Q5 in the FAQ (link below).
Hi Jambo thanks for reply.I didnt understand much.I just want to answer if i apply for BC ir not?
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by vinny » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:36 am

EEA4 is optional. It provides confirmation of Permanent right of residence (PR) (15).

You may apply for British citizenship directly when eligible, after PR is attained (2).
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by arsenik1973 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:49 am

vinny wrote:EEA4 is optional. It provides confirmation of Permanent right of residence (PR) (15).

You may apply for British citizenship directly when eligible, after PR is attained (2).
Hi Vinny thanks for reply.i got it.But as i explained up,my wife got recently citizenship.So then havent i right for BC directly after 5 year.Why should i apply for EEA?

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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by vinny » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:13 am

As I said above, EEA4 is optional. You don't have to apply for it if you don't want to.
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by arsenik1973 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:26 am

vinny wrote:As I said above, EEA4 is optional. You don't have to apply for it if you don't want to.
Sorry to question again again vinny.i just wanted to make sure.
Because i know normally ,to marry with BC as spouse,waiting time is 3 years to have citizenship.But i got 5 yeea2 visa.because my wife was polish. But now BC anymore.so this means i dont wait 1 more year for BC?
Hope now i clarified more.

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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by vinny » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:30 am

That's correct. You may be eligible from June 2014 (completing 5 years in the UK, after marriage).
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by arsenik1973 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:38 am

vinny wrote:That's correct. You may be eligible from June 2014 (completing 5 years in the UK, after marriage).
If you are sure that i will be definetly eligible,then i can applyfor BC from june 2014 as 3 years already passed.right?thats great.Thanks

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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by vinny » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:44 am

Suggest you use the NCS, so they can check that all the requirements are met.
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by arsenik1973 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:49 am

vinny wrote:Suggest you use the NCS, so they can check that all the requirements are met.
I am confused you are not sure.Anyway thanks for your response.Please more response will be appreciate.Thanks

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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by vinny » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:08 am

Attaining PR is just one requirement. There are also other requirements to meet!
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by Amber » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:09 am

Vinny has suggested you use the NCS, I suggest you take him up on that. If you don't have a PR document you'll need to evidence your right to PR in addition to KoLL and the other requirements.
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by maxmelion » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:30 am

I have checked the requirments why it say 3 year if marry BC
is it the old law ? I marreid BC 3 years 10 month now can i apply for it ?

vinny wrote:Attaining PR is just one requirement. There are also other requirements to meet!

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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by arsenik1973 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:56 am

Amber_ wrote:Vinny has suggested you use the NCS, I suggest you take him up on that. If you don't have a PR document you'll need to evidence your right to PR in addition to KoLL and the other requirements.
Hi Amber; I have all documents for EEA4 and BC.I just want to wait longer if i have right to apply for BC.If my wife got herBC, my 5 year should be reduced to 3 years.It means by 5years waiting time,i could apply for BC.If i want to make sure.Because if i will be refused then i will lose money and stuff like that.

I just want answer,if someone is sure about right answer.
Thanks again

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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by askmeplz82 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:22 am

[quote="maxmelion"]I have checked the requirments why it say 3 year if marry BC
is it the old law ? I marreid BC 3 years 10 month now can i apply for it ?

You can not apply BC if you do not have PR or ILR

Because PR is not requirement if you are under EEA law you can apply BC 6 years after living in the UK as family member of an EU national

or 5 years if married to BC
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by maxmelion » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:49 pm

I know its stupid question but wana confirm can i apply for british after divorce frm bc if i lived 5 years and got all ducoments who was eea ?
askmeplz82 wrote:
maxmelion wrote:I have checked the requirments why it say 3 year if marry BC
is it the old law ? I marreid BC 3 years 10 month now can i apply for it ?

You can not apply BC if you do not have PR or ILR

Because PR is not requirement if you are under EEA law you can apply BC 6 years after living in the UK as family member of an EU national

or 5 years if married to BC

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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by askmeplz82 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:39 am

[I know its stupid question but wana confirm can i apply for british after divorce frm bc if i lived 5 years and got all ducoments who was eea ?

after divorce you are no longer spouse of a British citizen so you can't apply after 5 years. it will be 6 years
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by toofan » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:12 pm

askmeplz82 wrote:[I know its stupid question but wana confirm can i apply for british after divorce frm bc if i lived 5 years and got all ducoments who was eea ?

after divorce you are no longer spouse of a British citizen so you can't apply after 5 years. it will be 6 years
that's right the minute you are divorced you are no longer married to British citizen. than normal rules apply.
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by maxmelion » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:19 pm

Yea .. got it thnx
toofan wrote:
askmeplz82 wrote:[I know its stupid question but wana confirm can i apply for british after divorce frm bc if i lived 5 years and got all ducoments who was eea ?

after divorce you are no longer spouse of a British citizen so you can't apply after 5 years. it will be 6 years
that's right the minute you are divorced you are no longer married to British citizen. than normal rules apply.

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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by arsenik1973 » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:06 pm

Amber_ wrote:Vinny has suggested you use the NCS, I suggest you take him up on that. If you don't have a PR document you'll need to evidence your right to PR in addition to KoLL and the other requirements.
I thought through and i will go for EEA4 first.Because no body can give any definite prove and i am scared to apply for BC first.Anyway thanks

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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by vinny » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:08 am

It's difficult to give a definite response without seeing all the evidence that you intend to provide. That's why I suggested the NCS.
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Re: EEA4 or BC? please help

Post by arsenik1973 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:22 am

vinny wrote:It's difficult to give a definite response without seeing all the evidence that you intend to provide. That's why I suggested the NCS.
i see.Thank. you.

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