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Schengen visa after Brexit

Post by n8net » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:18 pm

I understand from the news/Gov websites, if you are a British citizen, you can still visiit Schengen countries without applying for Visa for 90 days.

But, how about those with the UK issued Travel document who used to be able to visit Schenger without visa - do they need to apply for schengen visa now ?

also what is the process these days and where can I find which country I need to apply for if visiitng multiple countires ( need to travel for a urgent business reason)

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Re: Schengen visa after Brexit

Post by secret.simon » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:22 am

I suspect that you would need a Schengen visa to travel to the EU now.

Who requires or does not require a Schengen visa is determined by the person's citizenship, not the country of issue of the Travel Document.

While the UK was a part of the EU, UK issued travel documents were likely recognised by other EEA member-states as the UK was a fellow member-state.

Now that it is not, your travel document would be assessed the same as one issued by the US, for instance.
n8net wrote:
Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:18 pm
where can I find which country I need to apply for if visiitng multiple countires
Where and how to apply (for a Schengen visa) wrote:You must lodge the application for a Schengen visa at the Consulate of the country that you intend to visit, or – if you intend to visit more than one Schengen State, the Consulate of the country where you will spend the longest period.

If you intend to visit several Schengen States and the stays will be of equal length, you must apply at the Consulate of the country whose external borders you will cross first when entering the Schengen area.

...

The application must, in principle, be submitted to the Consulate at least 15 days before the intended journey and cannot be lodged earlier than six months before the start of the intended journey. You may have to book an appointment before lodging the application.
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Re: Schengen visa after Brexit

Post by n8net » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:05 am

thanks Simon, for the answers.. much appreciated.

Also, just to confirm, Schengen visa is not just for tourism right, it also covers any activity such as visiting family and providing business services if less than 90 day duration right ?

Also, I read online, even if you require Schengen visa, if you are married to a EU / EFTA national, you then become exempted...?

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Re: Schengen visa after Brexit

Post by secret.simon » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:48 pm

n8net wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:05 am
Also, I read online, even if you require Schengen visa, if you are married to a EU / EFTA national, you then become exempted...?
If you are married to an EEA citizen of the EEA member-state that you are not entering the Schengen zone in AND are either accompanying or joining the EEA citizen, they you can be granted a visa at the border.

However, keep in mind that the airlines will not allow you to board without a visa stamped into your travel document and therefore you may not make it to the Schengen zone border.

The only way this exemption would work for you would be if you take the Eurostar, where you can interact with the French PAF (Police Aux Frontieres) within St Pancras Station and they can make a decision on whether to issue you a visa on the spot. You will need either your EEA citizen spouse with you or proof that you will be joining her in the Schengen Zone country you are traveling to.
n8net wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:05 am
Also, just to confirm, Schengen visa is not just for tourism right, it also covers any activity such as visiting family and providing business services if less than 90 day duration right ?
I am not sure of this and will leave it to others to advise further on this point.
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Re: Schengen visa after Brexit

Post by n8net » Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:57 pm

secret.simon wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:22 am
I suspect that you would need a Schengen visa to travel to the EU now.

Who requires or does not require a Schengen visa is determined by the person's citizenship, not the country of issue of the Travel Document.

While the UK was a part of the EU, UK issued travel documents were likely recognised by other EEA member-states as the UK was a fellow member-state.

Now that it is not, your travel document would be assessed the same as one issued by the US, for instance.
Looking here though, looks like UK issues Travel docs are treated same as British passports.

http://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/sites/ ... by_uk.xlsx

also for Swiss embassy explicitly say they are accepted..
https://static.tlscontact.com/media/gb/ ... 1546934990

Hope I am right.

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