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Family visa refusal - help on ties back to India

Post by kautilya » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:57 am

My parents' visa has been refused 1st time to UK today on the ground that while sponsor documentation is fine immigration office was not convinced that applicants will go back from UK.

1. Should I re-apply or go for appeal? I want faster response. Some lawyers say re-apply is waste of time. They had seen lower success and it eventually goes to appeal so why not start appeal now, and if more evidence is useful, they will be checked as 1st step in appeal (review process). Some say since you will provide more evidence, reapply is better because officer pays more attention rather than review process (1st step) in appeal in which officer is not bound to spend time on new info.

2. My parents live in village.
a. In terms of economic ties, on property, they have ancestral house of worth about 5-10K pounds. But, this house is in name of late grandfather and document is in Hindi. We submitted this in application. On finances, we also submitted fixed deposits in India in name of my father worth about 15K pounds. On income, parents get small rental income, my grandmother gets small pension, and my brother & I sponsor occasional big ticket expenses. Father used to do small business from which he is retired now. Mother is housewife and dependent on father.
b. In terms of social ties, my grandmother lives with my parents and they take care of her. My younger brother is 28 years old and works in Bangalore. We did not submit any covering letter highlighting these social ties – except perhaps in the form they had filled names of these family members.

I would appreciate your suggestions how my parents can show stronger ties back to India under their circumstances.

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Post by kautilya » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:02 am

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Excerpt from Refusal letter

I must assess the information you have provided about yourself seperately from your sponsor's part of your application.

In your application you have said you mainly depend on money given to you by your son, who lives in the UK. I have also noted from the photocopy of your sons work permit that he has been in UK since 2006 and you have not any attempt before to visit him. Because of this, and because you have close family in the United Kingdom, I am not satisfied that you plan to leave UK at the end of your visit.

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1. In the application form, my parents (via agent) have filled under question 5.1 that they are supported by other family member and written "SON" in box. But, under question 5.10, they have filled that they make 15,000/- Rs per month from all sources and they dont recieve any income from other sources including friends or family. In further questions 5.16 and 5.17, they put SON would pay for trip related expenses.

[/img]Truth is that my parents take care of themself from their own income (mainly small rentals) and their SONS (Me in London and Brother in Bangalore) only help for big ticket items or functions.

2. Visa officer has got date wrong, my work permit says 2008 not 2006. But, I guess point 1 is mainly important.

Apreciate expert opinion on future course of action whether to re-apply or appeal. And, what and how to improvise the application. I can think of following options.

1. Re-apply for just mother, so that her application has her husband in india being social tie
2. Re-apply or appeal for both parents, but put a covering letter indicating following additonal evidence
- Grandmother living with parents, so social ties for parents... in addition, younger son is also in india.
- get Title of ancestral property in the name of parents, as they are legal heir, and use that as property back in india.
3. In application form, this time can I put self-employed (on the basis of recipient of rental incomes) and still select that supported by family members (since it was only option selected last time), but in the box explain that both SONS (not just one in UK) for big ticket items not for daily living purpose. I am not sure modifying application in next stage like this is good or not, would it count as hiding facts in first application, in that case they refuse visa outright


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