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nahmed
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Post by nahmed » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:33 am

l2mz wrote:
just got letter from Scotland disclosure.

nothing is displayed on it.

traffic offense such as speeding and jumping lights does not cout.

KP, have u got yours??

many thanks for everyone.


Good News for you mate!!!

Was you fine/penalty given to youin court?

If yes, then minor offences may not be on CRB, meaning we may be okay.

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Post by kenfrapin » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:28 am

I got the result back today and can confirm that I do not have any unspent convictions on my record.
I double checked and asked the agency if this means I dont have ANY sort of unspent convictions and there is nothing to declare to any UK Body like the UKBA. They confirmed and said as your CRB check says your record is clear which holds good for anything in the UK and there is no reason to say you have any criminal convictions as the report clearly shows you dont:-)

They will issue the legal certificate and send to me as thats an extra piece of evidence to show I did everything I could before applying for ILR. Thats the answer I was looking for and I know what to do now

KP

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Post by Palprithvi » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:39 pm

kenfrapin wrote:I got the result back today and can confirm that I do not have any unspent convictions on my record.
I double checked and asked the agency if this means I dont have ANY sort of unspent convictions and there is nothing to declare to any UK Body like the UKBA. They confirmed and said as your CRB check says your record is clear which holds good for anything in the UK and there is no reason to say you have any criminal convictions as the report clearly shows you dont:-)

They will issue the legal certificate and send to me as thats an extra piece of evidence to show I did everything I could before applying for ILR. Thats the answer I was looking for and I know what to do now

KP
Thanks KP, for share this info with us. I have applied for similar check through police station and they check on the police national computer. If I too don't have any record at PNC, would that mean that I too need not disclose anything to any agency? Does PNC check also give some certificate, which I may quote if required?

Thanks.

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Post by kenfrapin » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:58 pm

Received the legal certificate in the post today and took a look. It states that the check has been done against Police National Computer or PNC and clearly lists if there are
1. Any convictions at a UK Police Station with station and actual conviction details
2. Any conviction at a UK court with Court Details, specifics and the date

Above factors in any unspent conviction as well.

Both sections were marked as no records exist - I believe this is more than enough proof that, in my case, as I was on an International license when I was caught speeding, it was treated as FPN (I assume) and no record was created against my name

KP

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Post by nathanssn » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:08 pm

Hi Kp,

Congrats and thanks for sharing this info. I also got 3 points and 75 fine through court because of intl licence.

Can you tell me through whom you applied for CRB check? and how long it took to get response ?

I have ILR due in June. Not sure what to do with this problem.

Thanks
Nathan

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Post by Cheekoo » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:37 pm

Mine was the similar case, speeding ticket thru Court (Sp30, 3 points and £60 fine). I applied for SAR report which they said will take 40 days, but got it in 20 days. Applied for Basic Disclosure (CRB check) which I didn't receive till the time of appoitment for ILR at Solhull PEO. SAR report was all clean, teh fine thru court was considered as FPN it seems and was not recorded as conviction.

Went ahead with ILR application and it was successful. Thanks to the members who provided their valuable suggestions.

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Post by dewales001 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:37 pm

HI,

I have two driving offences. Both are IN10 in 2008, LC20 in 2010. I was given 6pts/£200 and 3pts/£100 respectively by a Sherriff Court in Scotland.

Last week, I sent an application to ACRO (Access Criminal Record Office) for a Police Certificate. My certificate came in today, and to my surprise, the certificate show NO TRACE- this means that I do not have any convictions, cautions, reprimands or final warning held on the PNC( Police National Computer).

I am due for ILR anytime from next month..My question now is, am I good enough to submit the ILR application since there are no spent/unspent convictions recorded on my name or should I go for a CRB check also to reinforce the result of the police certificate?

I strongly believe CRB will give you the details of what they found on the PNC, which will be the result of what I got from the police.

Seniors/Moderators please advise!

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Post by vinaya » Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:06 pm

KP- Can you please let me know how u applied for your CRB check

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Re: Similar situation

Post by zahid.ali.anwar » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:07 pm

nahmed wrote:Hello guys,

I am in a similar situation and need some advice.

I am on Tier 1 G requiring extension next month. I was on WP before Tier 1 and my ILR is due May 2012.

Basically, I had a SP30 speeding ticket in Aug 2010 in Scotland while driving to NI. Unfortunately on my retun to birmingham after 15-20 days I realised that I have misplaced my counterpart. I rang the court that I have ordered replacement and will forward it to you as soon as and should I send the payment and card license now. She advised that she will put a note on the system and that I should send it all together asap. Later on I sent it to them with payment. However, I ended up receiving court notice and then 3 points and £150 fine.

Now, with the new ILR rules coming soon, I am badly stuck.

1st things 1st, What should I do on my FLR application? Declare the conviction or not?

What do you guys suggest? With what I read, this will show up on CRB.

Never thought something this small could affect the long awaited ILR.
The best thing will be for every ambiguity about these convictions is to write or call NACRO (you can google it). If you send them an email explaining all you have described here with scanned copies of record. They will revert back with the correct answer. Let me tell you Home Office use NACRO as an external agency to confirm if the conviction is spent or otherwise. So better send them email.

My personal experiance with NACRO is good. My wife have 3 points on her licence. I have sent counterpart, fine slip and police station record. They revert back, after reading the documents, that she do not have to worry about anything.

Do share your experiance afterwards....
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Post by Struggler » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:26 am

Hi KP - what extra legal certificate did you request from Disclosure Scotland. I received my CRB certificate yesterday which is blank so do I need to request something else from them.

I want to have the maximum number of proofs that I have no unspent convictions.

Many thanks

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Post by geriatrix » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:44 pm

The CRB certificate is evidence enough.
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Post by Struggler » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:59 am

Many thanks

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Post by rushabhjvora » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:12 pm

Sorry for drifting away from the topic but is following case an only exception getting ILR rejected though having clean disclosure scotland?


http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... sc&start=0

Obviously all cases are different and it depends on the case worker but I thought you are OK with an non-recordable offense and a clean disclosure scotland.

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License Revoked

Post by omerabdul » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:53 pm

I am due to submit my ILR (WP) on 4th Jan 2012.

I had to pay a fine for SP30 when I had my provisional license and it carried over to my new license. Then I managed to get another fine just few days before the initial two years for which the DVLA asked me to return my license and apply for new one as I reached 6 points. Both the fines I paid by post and did not go to court.
My question is
As my license was revoked, is this going to be a problem?

Many thanks for your help
Regards, Omer

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Post by uday2509 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:24 pm

Hello There,

I got a similar situation, I have paid fine in the court when i failed to go out of
city centre ( March 2010).Is it spent conviction or Unspent? I am going for my Tier 1 extension next month, Do i need mention while filling the application?
I got my CRB check which says no convictions.

Thanks,
Uday

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Post by Krishna555 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:59 pm

Hi Expers
Could you please advise whether Scotland disclosure show CCJ s for default payments (Credit cards /bank loans/Mobile bills)

hamid164
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traffic convictions and ILR

Post by hamid164 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:41 am

If scotland disclosure showing no convictions and police national computer showing no record of any conviction, but i got 6 point and £400 fine from court. My questions is , do i need to declare that i got conviction from court when applying for ILR OR just tick the box saying no criminal convictions.

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Clean PNC Record but conviction on Disclosure Scotland

Post by nahmed » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:36 am

Hello Folks,
I need some help guys.
I am in an unusual situation where I have 2 different results from different official bodies.
The ACRO Certificate in response to SAR request for my record on the PNC supplied by the Criminal Records office states no conviction.
I also applied for a basic disclosure from Disclosure scotland which shows the traffic speeding offence as a conviction.
Now, I dont know what to do and am really worried.

Basically, I got a speeding FPN in Scotland in 2010. I was supposed to pay for it within the 28-30 day period but I couldnt because I had misplaced my counterpart. I did ring the Court up within the period that I am sending you the payment and photocard and will forward the counterpart as soon as it arrives. I was advised to hold on to it and send everything together. By the time all the paperwork got to the court the time had lapsed. So, Summons were issued and I wrote a letter in response that I never meant to challenge the FPN and explained to them the reason & that I am okay to get the points and the fine. I had to pay £150 fine instead of £60 and the 3 points on my license. The court decision is dated 03-Feb-2011.

When the new rules came into effect, I got worried and applied to the Police for the SAR disclosure which came back as clean in May 2011. Now that my ILR is due in a few weeks, I applied for a basic disclosure at the disclosure scotland, just to be on the safe side, which actually shows the same offence as a conviction and I am back to my worrying stage.

Would any of you be able to advise me on my situation?

Any help would be very much appreciated.

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Post by makkan00 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:11 am

Can somebody kindly share, how do you apply for CRB, as your employer is supposed to do it?


Also how do you go for NACRO / ACRO certificate?

Thanks.

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Post by Gary_G » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:23 am

I work in the health service and have to have Enhanced Disclosures done every time I change jobs, I have had 3 done so far in recent years and none of them have ever shown up any of my motoring offences and I have had a tonne of fixed penalties and even been banned for totting up of points and narrowly avoided another ban a few years back due to totting up again but the judge let me off with 13 points as I needed my car for work.

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