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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by JB44 » Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:53 pm

JB44 wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:44 pm
Asif Aziz wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:30 pm
last day I received again by them , they will contact me in 15 days . I thought ok , i will wait for reply . But same day in evening i received another email by a person from Home Office , said , we need your details ,like name , DOB and application numbers . i replied all things in email.
What are they doing .
Asif Bhai

I mean kindly share submissions of PAP date.
Response of PAP date
2nd Response of PAP dats


Bro how much time they took to reply after your first pap response?

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Asif Aziz » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:56 pm

We can submit the PAP after the refusal of Administrative review , Ar is available at few visa category now.
PAP is the intimation to home office .We are going to file the Judicial Review , If in 14 days if we did't get any response then go for JR. Some time the Secretary State office asked us to wait 3 month , we will reconsider
your case .Then we can wait or go for JR.
But my case is at waiting of AR decision .

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by JB44 » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:16 pm

Asif Aziz wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:56 pm
We can submit the PAP after the refusal of Administrative review , Ar is available at few visa category now.
PAP is the intimation to home office .We are going to file the Judicial Review , If in 14 days if we did't get any response then go for JR. Some time the Secretary State office asked us to wait 3 month , we will reconsider
your case .Then we can wait or go for JR.
But my case is at waiting of AR decision .
Asif Bhai
Kindly share following dates

Visa submission date
Refusal date
Pap submission date
Pap response date ( reconsidering)
2nd pap response date ( asking for info)

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by JB44 » Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:55 pm

JB44 wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:16 pm
Asif Aziz wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:56 pm
We can submit the PAP after the refusal of Administrative review , Ar is available at few visa category now.
PAP is the intimation to home office .We are going to file the Judicial Review , If in 14 days if we did't get any response then go for JR. Some time the Secretary State office asked us to wait 3 month , we will reconsider
your case .Then we can wait or go for JR.
But my case is at waiting of AR decision .
Asif Bhai
Kindly share following dates

Visa submission date
Refusal date
Pap submission date
Pap response date ( reconsidering)
2nd pap response date ( asking for info)

I mean kindly share all response dates. I have applied pap and got response that they will reconsider.


I just want to know your dates

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Asif Aziz » Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:16 pm

Application Submitted at :- 10 Jan 2020.
Interview Date :- 24 Jan 2020.
Visa Refusal Date : 27 Jan 2020.
AR file at 14 Feb 2020.
AR email received after 35 days ,we have done and send to Original decision Office.Then after one week ,we will contact you in 15 days ,same day again received email , please provide you some details , then i gave them and still now waiting.
Brother i did Administrative Review not PAP.This is some type of Appeal at some visas not at all ,Have you applied visa as Sole rep or Visit , If visit Visa then there is not right of appeal or Ar review, you have to go for PAP then JR . But PAP reply normal come in 14 days , But these days due to corona every one is just waiting .

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by hafizent » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:12 pm

Sobi143s wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:10 pm
Asif Aziz wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:55 pm
yes you are right because the refusal was also from Sheffield reference Number .
But what was the meanings of further action maybe required ?
You will receive Final decision, yes or no.
yes: you will receive a link to pay IHS Fee and ask to Submit passport again for visa grant.
No: you may process pre action protocol.
pls advice me i applied for visit visa with wife but refused due to i submitted my own company account bank statement because i am sole proprietor and i dont have any personal bank account 02/04/2020 i sent reconsider request to pap same day i got mail receipt confirmation yesterday i got mail from abu dhabi embassy that they received my reconsider application but right now we are closed due to corid 19 when reopen, we reconsider so i wnat to know it's hopefull they will reconsider positively ?

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Asif Aziz » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:29 pm

INSHALLAH, You will get .At PAP reconsideration is positive , because At loosing JR they will got high cost ,if You case is solid and genuine.

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Waseem03 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:47 am

Sobi143s wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:51 pm
Visa category: sole representative
pap apply date: 24 jan 2020
Pap response date from home office: 27 Jan 2020

i) The Secretary of State has reviewed the decision of 06/12/2019 and will now proceed to reconsider the matter in the light of the evidence and representations you have made. You will be contacted within 3 months of the date of this letter regarding the outcome of this reconsideration.

What’s happened with you amirminsa, any update from home office, will be thankful for your kind reply.
hi sobi,
any outcome regarding ur case ??

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Sobi143s » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:04 am

2.5 months have passed still not reply from home office of pap response reconsideration. Home office is off amid COVID19.

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Asif Aziz » Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:49 pm

I am also suffering this delaying problem and my JR times is also near to finish , even i did't received the AR decision , Tomorrow i will write email and inform them, due to this delay they will be responsible .Because all VFS are also closed. SO please email me the decision .

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Sobi143s » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:41 am

Aoa asif
Any update what happened in your case?

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Sobi143s » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:43 am

Asif Aziz wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:49 pm
I am also suffering this delaying problem and my JR times is also near to finish , even i did't received the AR decision , Tomorrow i will write email and inform them, due to this delay they will be responsible .Because all VFS are also closed. SO please email me the decision .
Aoa asif
Any update what happened in your case?

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by JB44 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:03 am

Cricket Season has been cancelled. So even if the home office is going to give me a visa I am not going now.

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Asif Aziz » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:56 am

AOA. Just waiting . no response with respect to decision.i emailed to AR department after then paid email. last week received another email in which wrote , your decision had been made but not yet received because all vfs even outside the UK offices are closed due to Corona and maybe it will get late .

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Asif Aziz » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:31 pm

What about the responses of Wasem and Sobi.?? If received any please update?

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Waseem03 » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:46 pm

hi asif , m also waiting for home office reply. my 3 months complete on 25th june 2020. but sobi 3 months complte at the end of this month, now let c.
why ur AR descn getting too late , even my AR decsn email received with in 28 days.

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Asif Aziz » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:43 pm

Ge waseem. My 28 days were completed at 18 March. At 25 March i wrote the email to AR department ,I did't received the decision please update me , They replied, " We have made the decision and send back to the Original decision maker Office " and maybe further action required by them and they will contact you soon.
But at nobody contact me , then after week , i emailed to Sheffield, they said , we will contact you in soon.
Then i emailed them at paid query , first they required some details ,even they have already. i send them
in last email , she said the all Vfs are closed and due to corona maybe it get late.

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Waseem03 » Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:59 am

Asif Aziz wrote:
Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:43 pm
Ge waseem. My 28 days were completed at 18 March. At 25 March i wrote the email to AR department ,I did't received the decision please update me , They replied, " We have made the decision and send back to the Original decision maker Office " and maybe further action required by them and they will contact you soon.
But at nobody contact me , then after week , i emailed to Sheffield, they said , we will contact you in soon.
Then i emailed them at paid query , first they required some details ,even they have already. i send them
in last email , she said the all Vfs are closed and due to corona maybe it get late.
i think ur visa is approved cuz if ur visa is refused home office just send to email refusal letter . if she said that all vfs closed thats mean ur visa is approved and they email you kindly submit ur ihs charges and after that submit passport at vfs.

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Asif Aziz » Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:31 pm

No dear. I received their email today of refusal in AR. The decision is the copy of first refusal.he said, We acknowledged that you submitted salary slips/salary ledger and Bank statement also reflection also noted your share holding but you requirement is not as employee.
I am 30% share holder and the majority shareholder appoint me in deed because partners write deeds . By Pakistan rules no issue and also Registrar accept and registered this deed and i also attach their letter too. How i can put in their mind , hopeless.
Now mentally not ready for PAP.

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Sobi143s » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:21 pm

Asif Aziz wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:31 pm
No dear. I received their email today of refusal in AR. The decision is the copy of first refusal.he said, We acknowledged that you submitted salary slips/salary ledger and Bank statement also reflection also noted your share holding but you requirement is not as employee.
I am 30% share holder and the majority shareholder appoint me in deed because partners write deeds . By Pakistan rules no issue and also Registrar accept and registered this deed and i also attach their letter too. How i can put in their mind , hopeless.
Now mentally not ready for PAP.
Aoa asif aziz
File the PAP, hope you may grant the VISA.
Do lose hope in tough time. I am still waiting for PAP response reconsideration. I was given 3 months for reconsideration. Remove your objections through PAP. Otherwise you may refused by Home in new application if you apply. Be cool and keep calm, Put the PAP and wait for the result.

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by JB44 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:50 pm

My PAP response was that they will reconsider my application. Can someone tell me are they gonnna ask me for anything? Like bank statement or anything else? Sobi did they asked you for any additional documents?

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Sobi143s » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:20 pm

JB44 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:50 pm
My PAP response was that they will reconsider my application. Can someone tell me are they gonnna ask me for anything? Like bank statement or anything else? Sobi did they asked you for any additional documents?
Still no JB44. Waiting for Pap reconsideration outcome.

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by JB44 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:28 pm

Sobi143s wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:20 pm
JB44 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:50 pm
My PAP response was that they will reconsider my application. Can someone tell me are they gonnna ask me for anything? Like bank statement or anything else? Sobi did they asked you for any additional documents?
Still no JB44. Waiting for Pap reconsideration outcome.



Did they asked for any additional documents? Or just send the email that they will reconsider? I want to know if the asked for any additional documents after the reconsideration email.

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by Sobi143s » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:05 pm

JB44 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:28 pm
Sobi143s wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:20 pm
JB44 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:50 pm
My PAP response was that they will reconsider my application. Can someone tell me are they gonnna ask me for anything? Like bank statement or anything else? Sobi did they asked you for any additional documents?
Still no JB44. Waiting for Pap reconsideration outcome.



Did they asked for any additional documents? Or just send the email that they will reconsider? I want to know if the asked for any additional documents after the reconsideration email.
No additional documents. Just said that they will reconsider the case.

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Re: Reconsider application in Pre Action Protocol

Post by JB44 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:08 pm

Sobi143s wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:05 pm
JB44 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:28 pm
Sobi143s wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:20 pm
JB44 wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:50 pm
My PAP response was that they will reconsider my application. Can someone tell me are they gonnna ask me for anything? Like bank statement or anything else? Sobi did they asked you for any additional documents?
Still no JB44. Waiting for Pap reconsideration outcome.



Did they asked for any additional documents? Or just send the email that they will reconsider? I want to know if the asked for any additional documents after the reconsideration email.
No additional documents. Just said that they will reconsider the case.





Oh okay actually because of this corona virus I didn’t received salary because the offices are closed here. I want to send money home but waiting for the outcome. Or may be they ask me to send the statement again

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