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Refusal of entry (Incorrect details on the refusal letter)

Post by 6pandn21 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:28 pm

Hello folks,

Two of my relatives applied for a visit visa. Father and nephew. Got the visa for father as he had already been here before but got rejected for nephew. Now the thing that has perplexed us is the blatantly incorrect information on the refusal letter.

They have incorrect nationality on the refusal letter (nationality is stated as India when we are not Indians). Another incorrect information is that, the nephew was supposed to accompany his grandfather (who got the visa) on the journey (and was clearly stated on the sponsorship letter) but on the refusal letter they stated that why didn't you accompany your father before?

We waited for almost a month and they reject with such blatantly incorrect information. Which way would be best an appeal (we are worried that it might take too long for it be worth the effort) or a re-application pointing out their errors. Thanks

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Post by Lucapooka » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:33 pm

Without the exact details of the applicants and the exact wording of the refusal, you are wasting your time asking for help with this.

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Post by 6pandn21 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:54 am

Lucapooka wrote:Without the exact details of the applicants and the exact wording of the refusal, you are wasting your time asking for help with this.
Apologies for the lack of details. I have attached the refusal letter by removing the personal details. I hope that would provide the necessary information for providing any guidance. Thank you very much for your time .

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Post by Lucapooka » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:13 am

It's very simple. The can't see any economic ties for the nephew and think he will simply stay in the UK. He needs to re-apply with more credible evidence of his means and motivation to return to Nepal after the visit. The nationality typo is not relevant to anything and does not affect the reasons for the decision.

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Post by 6pandn21 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:29 pm

Lucapooka wrote:It's very simple. The can't see any economic ties for the nephew and think he will simply stay in the UK. He needs to re-apply with more credible evidence of his means and motivation to return to Nepal after the visit. The nationality typo is not relevant to anything and does not affect the reasons for the decision.
Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I was thinking the same as well but still those were some confusing mistakes by them. I believe a very strong bank statement would be a credible evidence that he will be returning to Nepal. Unfortunately, it was overlooked because we don't really have a tradition of making bank accounts right when you are 16 and moreover all his expenses were going to be covered by his uncle and his father. Do you think it will be a good idea to state that or simply show his statement and omit that? Still thank you very much for your time once again,

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Post by mulderpf » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:29 pm

How much proof was sent of your nephew's commitment to go back? He doesn't earn much and failed to provide any proof of this income. Did he provide any solid proof of going back once his visit is over? Who is paying for his visit as it doesn't seem that he would be able to afford it? Was the time he took leave from his company, paid or unpaid? These are the type fo questions that need answering...

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Post by wpilr_nov12 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:55 pm

It is not going to be case of one or two 'solid' documents. Rather how satisfied is the ECO that the applicant does not intend to remain in UK beyond the visa life. If the applicant is claiming to be employed, then a consistent pattern of his salary being paid into the bank account is just one aspect to it. What the applicant 'says' needs to be substantiated with evidence. And avoid 'bad quality' documents or imaginary bank balances.
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Post by 6pandn21 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:52 am

mulderpf wrote:How much proof was sent of your nephew's commitment to go back? He doesn't earn much and failed to provide any proof of this income. Did he provide any solid proof of going back once his visit is over? Who is paying for his visit as it doesn't seem that he would be able to afford it? Was the time he took leave from his company, paid or unpaid? These are the type fo questions that need answering...
Yes that was something that unfortunately was overlooked as it was done in a hurry and we had never experienced being rejected having so many members of our family travel every year.

He was not going to pay all the amount himself as most of his cost would have been covered by his father (he is just 20). The leave is paid. Thank you for taking the time to reply. Will definitely consider your suggestions in the re-application.

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Post by 6pandn21 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:55 am

wpilr_nov12 wrote:It is not going to be case of one or two 'solid' documents. Rather how satisfied is the ECO that the applicant does not intend to remain in UK beyond the visa life. If the applicant is claiming to be employed, then a consistent pattern of his salary being paid into the bank account is just one aspect to it. What the applicant 'says' needs to be substantiated with evidence. And avoid 'bad quality' documents or imaginary bank balances.
Thank you for taking the time to reply. Agree on your points and will take your suggestions into consideration.

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