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Which party to vote for?

Post by rg1 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:15 pm

Which party will be more beneficial for us? Labour or Conservatives?

:?

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Re: Which party to vote for?

Post by Wanderer » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:22 pm

rg1 wrote:Which party will be more beneficial for us? Labour or Conservatives?

:?
Who's us?
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Post by rg1 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:34 pm

us = non-EU immigrants in UK

None of immigration rules affect EU people anyway.

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Post by Wanderer » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:40 pm

rg1 wrote:us = non-EU immigrants in UK

None of immigration rules affect EU people anyway.
Not everyone is an immigrant here!

Some are advisors, some are spouses of foreign wives/gf's/civil partners, even some are IO's...

Whilst ur vote is ur own conscience, I'd suggest Labour, purely because they are halfway through a job, and the Conservative Party has a record of cocking things up, some of us have long memories, 1973 and power cuts, 1982 and a war-for-votes....
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Post by Casa » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:55 pm

I'm not so sure. Gordon's got me worried with that nervous twitch of his! 8)

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Post by Wanderer » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:02 pm

Casa wrote:I'm not so sure. Gordon's got me worried with that nervous twitch of his! 8)
Imagine Tories tho! Doesn't bare thinking about - and I'm no labourite...

GB is actually one very clever bloke, PhD, Dr GB, read his bios - u might be surprised. No charisma tho.
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Post by rg1 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:18 pm

The immigration policy for conservatives in their website is pretty vague. They said they'd impose a limit on non-EU migrants here. But they do not say what will happen to existing migrants (HSMP/ILR holders etc.) Will they still be allowed to qualify for citizenship under current rule or they will be going thru retrospective rules as and when implemented?

I'm an ILR holder at present. I know if labour re-elected, at least they will give 2-yr grace period for existing ILR holders to qualify for citizenship.

I have not been to UK for long. So, I have seen only labour government.

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Post by kiwigirl25 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:21 pm

Neither. Pre-election both have plans to get immigrants out (could change post-election as most policies do). Brown won't do anything to regulate the banking system as he's pally with the bankers, neither will the Tories for the same reason. So the rich will continue getting richer and the poor ....

The Lib Dems have a good immigration policy but lack on others. Depends on what is important to you. A country out of recession, reasonable taxes, a good education system and health system; or a decent immigration policy.

Brown has the look of a man that knows he's soon to be unemployed. If Labour get in my guessing is he will resign shortly afterwards.

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Post by mochyn » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:16 pm

There are other choices such as BNP, UKIP,PLAID CYMRU!

I vote for PLAID CYMRU!

Kick out the English!
There are illegal immigrants anyway! :lol:

They didn't have a passport to enter this country when my ancestors were here :cry:

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Post by mochyn » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:30 pm

Isn't there a party that advocates home rule for Yorkshire!

Isn't Wanderer the President?

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Post by Wanderer » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:45 pm

mochyn wrote:Isn't there a party that advocates home rule for Yorkshire!

Isn't Wanderer the President?
Purrrrrrlessae!

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Post by GSOtodd » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:30 pm

it is my understanding that the Tories will introduce a cap on the number of work permits/work visas for Tier one and two issues per year. I believe the rules for citizenship will remain the same.
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Post by Sky_High » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:05 pm

If Labour wins than we know their plans etc

If Tory wins we do not know their plans. It better to fight a devil you know.

Cap on number of Tier 1 and Tier 2 not possible but cap on citizenship is possible. Read migration watch report.

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Post by Pakhtoon » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:49 pm

Why not move out of UK ? that way you wouldn't have to care who wins 8)
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Post by GSOtodd » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:50 pm

Yeah but they are made up of extreme right wing. I asked a Tory spokesman and he said that it was the numbers coming in that would be subject to a cap. And, Tier 1 and 2 can be subject to a cap. They have a cap on the number of work visas issues in the states.
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Post by SBT_Owner » Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:26 am

For the last 2 elections i have voted Labour .

This year i am voting Conservative as Labour have totally run the country into the ground . Schools are under funded , the NHS has fallen apart heck even roads are not getting repaired , and i have not mentioned the war in Iraq ....... They are a bunch of clowns and their planned national insurance rise is going to cost a great many jobs and will no doubt fold many small companies .

Brown and his gang are clueless . The damage they have done will not be fixed instantly though , i think it will take 10 years or so (that is if Conservatives win the election) . If Labour get 4 more years i really do fear for the future .
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Post by mochyn » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:42 am

SBT_Owner wrote:
Brown and his gang are clueless . The damage they have done will not be fixed instantly though , i think it will take 10 years or so (that is if Conservatives win the election) . If Labour get 4 more years i really do fear for the future .
Brown inherited his gang from Tony Bliar, who put the country on the path to ruin

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Post by Casa » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:10 pm

Article from our local free mag. Should make you smile. :wink:
"In the forthcoming election, I will only give my vote (and it hasn't been dusted down for many a year) to a party that has the following promises in its manifest.
1. All cars with engines over two litres have to be horse-drawn.
2. All people travelling by aeroplane will have to make the return journey by foot. Not only would this reduce our carbon footprint from boot to bootee, it would help to reduce the country's excess population, as most of them would never come back.
3. On any rail journey, where there are not enough seats, senior management must offer to take you to your destination in a sedan chair.
4. In the same way that you can sell electricity you have generated back to the electricity company, so should you be able to sell water back to the venal water companies. All the rain that lands on your property should be measured in a tamper-proof gauge, the total volume calculated and paid for by the water company. As your water runs into their aquifiers or reservoirs, it is only fair.
5. To encourage the English to take an interest in foreign languages, all road signs should be written in Mandarin.
6. All bankers bonuses should be paid for in the smallest coin of the realm and they should have to collect them from a blind octogenarian widow llving in a croft in the Cairngorms.
7. No public servant, including MP's should be paid more than the average wage, to remind them that 50% of the population have to live on less.
8. All doctor's receptionists should be replaced by dyspeptic grizzly bears to improve the friendliness.

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Post by mochyn » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:08 pm

Casa wrote:Article from our local free mag. Should make you smile. :wink:
"In the forthcoming election, I will only give my vote (and it hasn't been dusted down for many a year) to a party that has the following promises in its manifest.
1. All cars with engines over two litres have to be horse-drawn.
2. All people travelling by aeroplane will have to make the return journey by foot. Not only would this reduce our carbon footprint from boot to bootee, it would help to reduce the country's excess population, as most of them would never come back.
3. On any rail journey, where there are not enough seats, senior management must offer to take you to your destination in a sedan chair.
4. In the same way that you can sell electricity you have generated back to the electricity company, so should you be able to sell water back to the venal water companies. All the rain that lands on your property should be measured in a tamper-proof gauge, the total volume calculated and paid for by the water company. As your water runs into their aquifiers or reservoirs, it is only fair.
5. To encourage the English to take an interest in foreign languages, all road signs should be written in Mandarin.
6. All bankers bonuses should be paid for in the smallest coin of the realm and they should have to collect them from a blind octogenarian widow llving in a croft in the Cairngorms.
7. No public servant, including MP's should be paid more than the average wage, to remind them that 50% of the population have to live on less.
8. All doctor's receptionists should be replaced by dyspeptic grizzly bears to improve the friendliness.
PLAID CYMRU has just lost a vote
I go along with CASA :lol:

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Post by stmellon » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:48 pm

Where They Stand: Guide to party election policies
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/ ... ol3=libdem

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