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What were the grounds for the revocation of ILR?
Different date of birth
Did they say that it was deception or did the Home Office in any way indicate that the information was false? What was the basis for the original ILR (spousal/PBS/etc)? What was the basis of the subsequent ILR?
Claimed asylum and gave wrong DOB back in 2003secret.simon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:54 pmDid they say that it was deception or did the Home Office in any way indicate that the information was false? What was the basis for the original ILR (spousal/PBS/etc)? Have you applied for a SAR with the Home Office to see what they have on record about you?
Yes they said was a deception and they revoked 1st one,and the 2nd ILR was issued on the spouses basisBucks wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:56 pmClaimed asylum and gave wrong DOB back in 2003secret.simon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:54 pmDid they say that it was deception or did the Home Office in any way indicate that the information was false? What was the basis for the original ILR (spousal/PBS/etc)? Have you applied for a SAR with the Home Office to see what they have on record about you?
Hi Vinny
Hi Simonsecret.simon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:05 pmI suggest that you apply for a SAR with the Home Office, because if deception has been raised as a concern in an earlier immigration application, that will almost certainly trigger a closer investigation of your naturalisation application and may even trigger a refusal.
I'd invite @Obie and @vinny to advise further as this is a fairly niche scenario.
After revocation I send them an additional grounds why I can stay in uk and they replayed that you need to make a chargeable application and I did and I was granted after 6 months of waiting chasing
The Home Office guidance on revocation of indefinite leave to remain notes that indefinite leave would not normally be revoked where the deception in question occurred more than five years ago. The longer a person has been in the UK, or crucially, the more time it has been since the incident, the less likely it will be appropriate to revoke ILR.
They did and the lawyer at the time advised me to apply for LTR.vinny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:03 amIf the date of birth was not material to the grant of the first ILR, e.g. they didn’t consider you as a child because of a wrong date of birth, etc., then they shouldn’t have revoked your ILR. It’s surprising that they did that, especially if they took a further 12 years to do it.
64.The Home Office guidance on revocation of indefinite leave to remain notes that indefinite leave would not normally be revoked where the deception in question occurred more than five years ago. The longer a person has been in the UK, or crucially, the more time it has been since the incident, the less likely it will be appropriate to revoke ILR.
I am just not sure from the time ILR was revoked till a LTR was grantedBucks wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:28 amThey did and the lawyer at the time advised me to apply for LTR.vinny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:03 amIf the date of birth was not material to the grant of the first ILR, e.g. they didn’t consider you as a child because of a wrong date of birth, etc., then they shouldn’t have revoked your ILR. It’s surprising that they did that, especially if they took a further 12 years to do it.
64.The Home Office guidance on revocation of indefinite leave to remain notes that indefinite leave would not normally be revoked where the deception in question occurred more than five years ago. The longer a person has been in the UK, or crucially, the more time it has been since the incident, the less likely it will be appropriate to revoke ILR.
What will happen if I apply for naturalisation will they refused on the good character grounds?
When the revoked the ILR, HO stated that the ILR is revoked as I used deception and if you have any additional ground why you wish to remain in UK.
Please Vinny advise is it worthy to apply for naturalisation? What will you do if you were in my position?Bucks wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:48 amWhen the revoked the ILR, HO stated that the ILR is revoked as I used deception and if you have any additional ground why you wish to remain in UK.
So I did give the grounds and applied for LTR.
I did apply for LTR straight after the ILR was revoked it was less then two weeks.
I also worked through all the time till I was granted LTR, even when I made a LTR application I stated on the application form that I,m working and where I,m working.
Bucks wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:28 amI did disclosed myself voluntarily and wrote a letter to HO and admitted of lying around 2004 , so they new about it quite awhile and they decided to revoked 2016 and on the revocations letter give me a right to make further application and I did straight away.
So my concern is not about the deception as they knew about it and I didn’t produce any bad quality documents with an application that was only when claimed asylum when I lied.
But my concern is from when my LTR was revoked till I was granted visa was I an overstayer or illegal immigration?
I really don’t know what to do otherwise will be waste of £vinny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:07 pmBucks wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:28 amI did disclosed myself voluntarily and wrote a letter to HO and admitted of lying around 2004 , so they new about it quite awhile and they decided to revoked 2016 and on the revocations letter give me a right to make further application and I did straight away.
So my concern is not about the deception as they knew about it and I didn’t produce any bad quality documents with an application that was only when claimed asylum when I lied.
But my concern is from when my LTR was revoked till I was granted visa was I an overstayer or illegal immigration?
Thank you ZerubbabelZerubbabel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:32 pmWith a deception so serious that is led to the revocation of your ILR just 4 years ago, I don't believe a citizenship application will be successful in 2020. So if the money is a factor, I don't recommend applying now as it will only set you back by nearly £1400.