How soon after entering the uk should you apply to remain?

we arrived into uk from ireland with EEA FP going to apply for uk residence does it matter when you apply ? sooner better? also we never got full card in ireland we left with my wife still on 6 month temp card in ireland does that matter? are we likely to still get full irish card if we do should we go back for it? we've redirected our mail


(we lived and worked in ireland for 6-7 months)

also is getting UK residence card fairly straight forward? advice please

thank you!!

robsters wrote:we arrived into uk from ireland with EEA FP going to apply for uk residence does it matter when you apply ? sooner better? also we never got full card in ireland we left with my wife still on 6 month temp card in ireland does that matter? are we likely to still get full irish card if we do should we go back for it? we've redirected our mail


(we lived and worked in ireland for 6-7 months)

also is getting UK residence card fairly straight forward? advice please

thank you!!

You can see from forum it's currently taking some time (weeks/months) so why not shoot for the sooner the better.

The forum has many examples of people encountering various difficulties - with their documentation, with dates, complications due to separation/divorce, absences from UK & etc.

One could conclude it's straightforward if the applicant's case is straightforward & they have all the supporting evidence that HO requires.

However, following a successful Surinder Singh exercise it may (in comparison) turn out to be a 'walk in the park'.

Best advice: don't use/complete the whole form; it's not compulsory to use it & it's too long & cumbersome.

hi Robster,

when do u intend to apply for ur wife's permit, we are really thinking of applying immediately we get to the uk also. waiting around for the 5 yrs in dublin is becoming a headache. trying to compile documents for ss route.

have looked at the form as well, seems pretty straight forward, as posted on the forum and also stated on ukba website only fill and send the section that applies to u.

and for the centre of life they have examples on the form guidelines, financial states, etc can suffice. at the end of the day our situations are all different and each case is examined individually. am pretty sure we will be full of smiles in a few months.

keep me posted please

Hello

can i ask why its becoming a headache? is the due date passed? ours is this week but we are unsure if we will get the irish 5yr card now as we left 2 weeks ago and someone told me they ring your employer :/

also what sort of financial states would they consider ok for the SS route on the uk residence card? we hopeing because my wife got pregnant in ireland we using that as reason for moving back to family in the uk for end of pregnancy, do you think this would help on centre of life test even though child will end up born in the uk?

we paid rent as a lodging so was no contract as such, and printed bank statements from bank themself in ireland....(not sure if thats ok as it mentions having them stamped by the bank? )

i will keep you posted indeed, also collected some good bye cards from people i worked with, got some photos of colleagues at work, library card, some concert tickets in Dublin, photos of us in dublin, business card as we were trying to create a business there that never actally got set up, receipts of things we bought there over 7 months we stayed, hopeing all of this will contribute to showing we had a life there?

The 'lodgings' may be a sticky point if the case worker considers you chose to only take temporary accommodation instead of a lease on a property. A forum member was refused recently after the HO called the landlord and was told (incorrectly as it happens) that the couple had specifically asked for a rental of only 3 months. You may want to be prepared to cover yourselves should the issue of lodgings comes up. Do you have any documentation at all for this?

Hey Robster,

I don't think the lodging should be an issue, getting a house in Dublin is a bit of an issue and living in shared Accomodation is a common practice.

My husbands reply date is 3 weeks overdue now. We intend to leave by the of the month, with or without the 5yrs.

Hopefully they can contact my employer this week, I got an email from inis asking for my employers number again even though I gave it to them before.

Am sure all the documents u have will suffice, it's abit extreme with the receipt tho lol.

adedayoh wrote:Hey Robster,

I don't think the lodging should be an issue, getting a house in Dublin is a bit of an issue and living in shared Accomodation is a common practice.

My husbands reply date is 3 weeks overdue now. We intend to leave by the of the month, with or without the 5yrs.

Hopefully they can contact my employer this week, I got an email from inis asking for my employers number again even though I gave it to them before.

Am sure all the documents u have will suffice, it's abit extreme with the receipt tho lol.

I was attempting to ascertain whether Robster has any documentation proving lodgings. A 'lodger' is generally someone who lives with the landlord in their own home and Robster has already mentioned that there was no contract. 'Shared accommodation' tenants however, should be issued with a tenancy agreement.

Casa wrote:The 'lodgings' may be a sticky point if the case worker considers you chose to only take temporary accommodation instead of a lease on a property. A forum member was refused recently after the HO called the landlord and was told (incorrectly as it happens) that the couple had specifically asked for a rental of only 3 months. You may want to be prepared to cover yourselves should the issue of lodgings comes up. Do you have any documentation at all for this?

should be ok as land lady we rented from was left on good terms so if they rang her she can verify we lived there, she actually a friend of ours just paid her to help her out so surely this will be ok?

and yeah we left without the 5yr card but i had no idea they would ring the employer do they always ring them do they?

also proof we have is just proof of address like electric bills and letter from the home owner themselves

You should also have ur tax certificate, bank statements and payslips as well as letter of employment as evidence especially to show length of stay.

Also include ur pps letter as well.

And yes apparently they always ring employers now before they issue the five years. We hope to hear from them soon.

i asked my boss to cover for me as still paying me until end of this month but just have to see what happens. i personally think must only ring for certain people would be far to much chasing up otherwise.

yeah we have all the above documents, my main concern is remaining in the uk we dont really wanna go back to ireland it cost us so dearly being there pretty much bankrupt now with a child on the way so imgine how we feel about it this whole immigration thing costs dearly in the long run, we both agreed she cant remain the uk we just have to try through proper visa route and meet the job requirement but i hope doesn't come to that as finding a job pays 23k is not easy. i heard england now one hardest countrys in the world to get into and is up there with likes of north korea and russia lol, just hope to god our SS Route is successful but two things worry me is how we prove where we lived does bills, and letter from home owner suffice for this? and we have bank statements payslips etc

also i really do need an answer is inc my wife doctors notes and letters for her getting pregnant in ireland a good idea for uk immigration to show them we did plan to settle and have a life there? ulitmately we did plan to stay longer in ireland but because she got pregnant we did rush our route to get back to my parents because money was a major factor once my wife could no longer work and i was stuck on a badly paid job in ireland whole time.

Seek further advice on this, but if you're refused under Surinder Singh (although I'm not suggesting you will be), it would be worth considering applying under FLR(FP) from within the UK once your baby is born.

Casa wrote:Seek further advice on this, but if you're refused under Surinder Singh (although I'm not suggesting you will be), it would be worth considering applying under FLR(FP) from within the UK once your baby is born.

cool yeah its good to know your options so a baby born in britain would strength my wife case to remain then? also what is under FLR(FP)??

My husband was issued his 5 years so we can leave in peace now, we got the letter today, going to GNIB tomorrow.

Then SS form when we get back

thats good news, thing is its not required over here in the uk for the ss route?

robsters wrote:

Casa wrote:Seek further advice on this, but if you're refused under Surinder Singh (although I'm not suggesting you will be), it would be worth considering applying under FLR(FP) from within the UK once your baby is born.

cool yeah its good to know your options so a baby born in britain would strength my wife case to remain then? also what is under FLR(FP)??

Yes your wife would have a stronger case, but do bear in mind this is only a suggestion should you not succeed with the SS application. Here's a link to the guidance to give you a better idea.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... t_2015.pdf

Thanks for sending this and telling me about it, that is very interesting to you can extend the family permit upto 5 or 10 years if you have a british born child in the uk?

Under certain circumstances, but you should seek legal advice .

yeah i think we most likely will, under what sort of circumstances do you know anything about extending of family permit at all?