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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by seagul » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:12 pm

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Thanks seagul.

And which form do I have to fill for this application?
Appendix FM Partner & Appendix FM Child from following link and then follow it:

https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... 1576788059
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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by Globe Trotter » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:38 pm

Hi,

To call a family of three, I am sub-renting a house from a sub-landlord.

This 3 bedroom house is currently empty as the sub-landlord does not stay in this house.

So apart from the 'Residential Sub-lease Agreement' and sub-landlord's NOC, which other documents shall I ask from the sub-landlord?

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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by seagul » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:55 pm

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Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:38 pm
Hi,

To call a family of three, I am sub-renting a house from a sub-landlord.

This 3 bedroom house is currently empty as the sub-landlord does not stay in this house.

So apart from the 'Residential Sub-lease Agreement' and sub-landlord's NOC, which other documents shall I ask from the sub-landlord?

Thanks.
If that subletting haven't been ratified by the principal landlord then it won't be accepted:

10. MAA10 Legally owned or exclusively occupied

The ECO should consider the basis of the availability and security of tenure of the accommodation. Factors to be taken into account will include:

the ownership of the property and/or the duration of a lease
whether any lease enables the tenant to sublet to the couple or take them in as lodgers.
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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by Globe Trotter » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:40 pm

Many thanks Seagul.

The sub-letting has been approved by the principal landlord.

The only thing I am worried about is that both the landlord and sub-landlord happens to be my real brothers.

Is this acceptable or do I need additional documents to strengthen my case?

Thanks.

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Post by seagul » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:52 pm

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Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:40 pm
Many thanks Seagul.

The sub-letting has been approved by the principal landlord.

The only thing I am worried about is that both the landlord and sub-landlord happens to be my real brothers.

Is this acceptable or do I need additional documents to strengthen my case?

Thanks.
Then be buoyant as you will need few documents such as the title deed, mortgage statement (if mortgaged) & noc letter from the original owner.
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Post by Globe Trotter » Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:39 am

Thanks Seagul.

Shall I submit the title deed and mortgage statement with my application or only submit if it is asked for?

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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by seagul » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:39 am

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Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:39 am
Thanks Seagul.

Shall I submit the title deed and mortgage statement with my application or only submit if it is asked for?

Regards.
Since the checklist is generic and application form is fissure so better to supply these even without being asked.
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Post by Globe Trotter » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:48 pm

Many thanks Seagul for your valuable advice.

The only issue is that I shall be applying on 20th July whereas my tenure starts from 01 August.

Do I have to move in the property before I apply or can I move in at a later date?

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Post by seagul » Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:19 pm

Globe Trotter wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:48 pm
Many thanks Seagul for your valuable advice.

The only issue is that I shall be applying on 20th July whereas my tenure starts from 01 August.

Do I have to move in the property before I apply or can I move in at a later date?

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Better to apply when you will be moved there which will barely make you wait for 10 more days only.
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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by Globe Trotter » Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:47 pm

I would have done that Seagul but my kids turn 18 on 22nd July and hence the rush.

Is it okay if I move in by 1st Aug and apply on 20th July?

What is your suggestion in this case.

And many thanks for your valuable advice.

Bless you.

Thanks.

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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by CR001 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:49 pm

Simply add a covering letter explaining the address change when you upload your documents.

Or put a work address as an alternative for communications.
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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by seagul » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:06 pm

Globe Trotter wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:47 pm
I would have done that Seagul but my kids turn 18 on 22nd July and hence the rush.

Is it okay if I move in by 1st Aug and apply on 20th July?

What is your suggestion in this case.

And many thanks for your valuable advice.

Bless you.

Thanks.
In that situation just apply as you have planned earlier because it won't affect the outcome. What was said previously actually only suitable when you won't be in rush which you virtually are in.
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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by Globe Trotter » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:23 pm

Many thanks Seagul and CR001.
Sorted!

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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by Globe Trotter » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:37 am

Hi,

If I submit my application on the 20th of July but for some reason I am unable to move into the mentioned property on 1st Aug, can I rent out some other property and say that I will be moving in the new property by mid August or late August.

Will HO allow this?
Is there some other complicated process to justify it?

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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by seagul » Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:13 pm

Globe Trotter wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:37 am
Hi,

If I submit my application on the 20th of July but for some reason I am unable to move into the mentioned property on 1st Aug, can I rent out some other property and say that I will be moving in the new property by mid August or late August.

Will HO allow this?
Is there some other complicated process to justify it?

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Largely depend on individual caseworker as how he/she evaluate the things. Also keep in mind that oscillating plans may make the case even quandary, therefore, the application should preferably be applied once everything is in hands.
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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by Globe Trotter » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:22 am

Many thanks Seagul.

Makes sense.

Regarding the definition of a room, does HO have confirmed dimensions or even a 'small box room' shall be considered as a room.

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Post by seagul » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:07 pm

Globe Trotter wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:22 am
Many thanks Seagul.

Makes sense.

Regarding the definition of a room, does HO have confirmed dimensions or even a 'small box room' shall be considered as a room.

Kindest regards,
Globe Trotter
Room/space smaller than 50 square feet isn't considered.
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Post by Globe Trotter » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:20 pm

Many thanks Seagul for your prompt response.

Can you please let me know if there is any written guidelines that defines the area of a room to be more than 50 sq.ft?

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Post by seagul » Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:17 pm

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Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:20 pm
Many thanks Seagul for your prompt response.

Can you please let me know if there is any written guidelines that defines the area of a room to be more than 50 sq.ft?
12. MAA12 Overcrowding
12.1 Residential housing
The Housing Act 1985 contains statutory definitions of overcrowding in residential housing. The ECO should bear in mind, as Pakistan 2004 UKAIT 000066 says, that adequacy of accommodation must be assessed on an individual basis. It is not enough to equate adequacy with overcrowding.

A house is considered to be overcrowded if 2 persons aged 10 years or more of opposite sexes, who are not living together as husband and wife, must sleep in the same room. The Act also details the maximum number of people allowed for a given number of rooms or a given room floor area.

Account is taken only of rooms with a floor area larger than 50 square feet and rooms of a type used either as a living room or bedroom.

Rooms such as Spam or bathrooms are excluded.

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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by Globe Trotter » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:49 am

Many many thanks Seagul.

The accuracy with which you hit the bulls eye is commendable.

Hats off!

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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by Globe Trotter » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:31 pm

Hi,

Due to a change in circumstances, I will have to share the property with the live-in landlord, when I move in from 1st August.

The live-in landlord is also my real brother and he owns this property.

The property consists of 5 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, 1 cloak room, apart from the living room, dining room, cooking room, rear garden etc. (all rooms are much bigger than 50 sq.ft)

Currently the Landlord stays there with:
Himself
Wife
Elder son of 11 years
Younger son of 9 years

I will be staying over there with:
Myself
My Spouse
An almost 18 year old son and
13 year old daughter

Am I allowed to share the property in the above scenario?

Apart from the Tenancy Agreement and Landlord’s NOC, what are the additional documents that I need to submit?

Kindest Regards.

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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by seagul » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:51 pm

Globe Trotter wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:31 pm
Hi,

Due to a change in circumstances, I will have to share the property with the live-in landlord, when I move in from 1st August.

The live-in landlord is also my real brother and he owns this property.

The property consists of 5 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, 1 cloak room, apart from the living room, dining room, cooking room, rear garden etc. (all rooms are much bigger than 50 sq.ft)

Currently the Landlord stays there with:
Himself
Wife
Elder son of 11 years
Younger son of 9 years

I will be staying over there with:
Myself
My Spouse
An almost 18 year old son and
13 year old daughter

Am I allowed to share the property in the above scenario?

Apart from the Tenancy Agreement and Landlord’s NOC, what are the additional documents that I need to submit?

Kindest Regards.
In my honest opinion with such number of house holds even though few will count as half the fulfillment of accomodation requirement might be risky. However, if you still want to embrace this risk then you will need the title deed instead tenancy agreement because landlord is your family member, mortgage statement and his noc letter.
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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by Globe Trotter » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:28 pm

Many thanks Seagul.

Can you please simplify this statement "With such number of house holds even though few will count as half the fulfillment of accommodation requirement might be risky".

Regards.

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Post by seagul » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:56 pm

Globe Trotter wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:28 pm
Many thanks Seagul.

Can you please simplify this statement "With such number of house holds even though few will count as half the fulfillment of accommodation requirement might be risky".

Regards.
Means that despite the house is 5 bedroom which can visibly accommodate 7.5 - 10 persons but under housing act two persons aged to 10 of opposite gender can't sleep in same room means extra rooms will be needed. Moreover, you will have to supply the detail of all other occupants too. In nutshell you might barely be able to meet the criteria but still if it is possible then should consider other option.
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Re: Actual Salary versus Employment Contract - To meet salary threshold

Post by Globe Trotter » Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:31 pm

Thanks for your time Seagul.

It was well explained.

Regards.

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