Any dependent on financial support

zaf1 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:16 am

Hello,
I made the application online, paid health surcharge and standard application fees (12 weeks decision time).
Then the application website directed me to the vfsglobal website where I booked my slot and paid fees for scanning assistance, docs check, etc. But I could not see any link to self upload the docs. When I sign in with GWF number and email it does have an option below to upload docs but if I select that then I am redirected to changing/booking slots.
I have a booking on coming Friday and there are too many pages to be scanned ~200 odd. I have already self scanned 90% but no option to self-upload. I guess if we go to the biometric appointment then it will take forever to upload these pages???
Does anyone knows how to self-upload on the vfsglobal site??

Many Thanks.
Best Regards.

Few members have indicated that self uploading of documents work smoothly when applied through access UK instead vfsglobal.

Thanks , i already submitted application on gov.uk website and after I finish I am redirected to vfsglobal. So how can I go to access uk and apply?

Hello, I am submitted the docs and generated a check list here. I am exteremely grateful to people on this forum. I know there are few docs that are not really required but I just cant take risk with home office. Please suggest if I missed on something or anything important you may feel!
Many Thanks.
1) Proof of application
a) 1st page of submitted online application form
b) Supporting document checklist as generated after online application submission.
c) Filled Appendix 2 (VAF4A August 2018) financial requirement form.
2) Applicant Travel documents
a) Current Passport. Please note she changed her passport after Nikkah and husband name is included in this passport.
b) Old Passport II
c) Old Passport I
3) UK pre-departure Tuberculosis test certificate
4) Applicant Educational documents
a) Degree certificate issued April, 2016
b) House Job internship certificate I
c) House Job internship certificate II
d) Applicant Job experience letter
5) Applicant English Language requirement
a) UK NARIC letter to state the degree was taught in English and meets CEFR level B1 requirements along with degree certificate as mentioned in 4a).
b) Letter from University to state the medium of instruction for degree qualification was English.
c) IELTs life skills certificate CEFR level A1.
6) Sponsor documents
a) Support letter from sponsor
b) Sponsorship undertaking form SU07/12
c) Current Passport. Please note this include bio data pages and immigration stamped pages when sponsor travelled for wedding ceremonies.
d) Old Passport II. Please note this include bio data pages and immigration stamped pages when sponsor travelled for Nikkah (Islamic Marriage).
e) Old Passport I. Bio data pages
f) Biometric residence permit (settlement)
7) Sponsor employment documents
a) Current employment offer letter.
b) Letter from current employer to confirm employment details.
c) Salary slip from current employer (May, 2019).
d) Letter from previous employer to confirm employment details.
e) Salary slips from previous employer (from May 2018 to April 2019).
f) P60 forms for last four years.
Sponsor financial documents
a) Current Bank account statement from 15th May 2018 to 31st May 2019 (sheet number 346 to 414). This along with sponsor’s salary slips as mentioned in section 7c and 7e to reflect the salary credited in account.
b) ISA Bank account statement from 23rd April 2018 to 31st May 2019 (sheet number 16 to 28).
9) Proof of relationship
a) Marriage Certificate in English from NADRA (National Database and Registration Authority), Pakistan.
b) Husband name included in applicant passport as mentioned in section 2a.
c) Wedding ceremonies cards.
d) Receipt of hotel booking for wedding night.
e) Screenshots of Sponsor communication (Facebook messenger) with Applicant.
f) Screenshots of Applicant communication (Facebook messenger) with Sponsor.
g) Nikkah, wedding and family photos (23 in total).
h) Sponsor boarding passes for Nikkah and wedding ceremonies travel. This along with sponsor stamped (immigration) pages from passports as mentioned in section 6c and 6d.
i) Receipt of birthday gift from applicant to the sponsor.
10) Accommodation arrangements
a) Tenancy agreement and online (signature) completion certificate.
b) Letter from letting agent to confirm accommodation details and no objection on letting spouse stay.
c) Council tax letter.

Many Thanks. Do let me know if something missing or important asap.

Hello, all again!
I submitted my wife spouse visa application on 8th June and she enrolled biometrics on 14th June 2019.
She scanned all supporting docs and they were forwarded to UKVI on 14th June as well. She received an sms (text msg) to state application forwarded. During docs scanning, they returned her appendix 2 form (not scanned) and said this is no longer required and is just for guidance. I think in online application form they have already included appendix 2 questions anyway!

I want to ask if there is any way to check the application status. I had an email from the home office to confirm fees paid but not for application is under process or anything like that?
Just want to know if I can check somewhere what is the status of my application?

Many Thanks to all members again. Your useful advice has been very helpful to me!

Regards.

zaf1 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:33 pm

Hello, all again!
I submitted my wife spouse visa application on 8th June and she enrolled biometrics on 14th June 2019.
She scanned all supporting docs and they were forwarded to UKVI on 14th June as well. She received an sms (text msg) to state application forwarded. During docs scanning, they returned her appendix 2 form (not scanned) and said this is no longer required and is just for guidance. I think in online application form they have already included appendix 2 questions anyway!

I want to ask if there is any way to check the application status. I had an email from the home office to confirm fees paid but not for application is under process or anything like that?
Just want to know if I can check somewhere what is the status of my application?

Many Thanks to all members again. Your useful advice has been very helpful to me!

Regards.

Its too early to enquire about application status.

Thanks Seagul,
I put 1st September as the date she wish to come to UK. May be in July sometime I will send an email to ask application status.
Generally, vfs staff were saying it will take 12 weeks full and other applicants had similar timeline suggestions as well. FINGERSCROSSED

Hello,
On 26th August I called home office helpline and enquire my wife visa status. They said decision has been made now local vfs office will contact you in few days for passport collection.

She has not received any sms/text or email for collection as of now from vfs.

I am just curious how long it takes ? Can I call back to confirm, I dont think they tell you the decision.

Many Thanks.

Regards

They won’t tell you the decision, you have to wait to receive the letter for the decision. Be a bit more patient they will definitely reach you for collection.

Thanks Bizman,
Yes, I been a bit impatient If they are waiting for decision letter to arrive I hope it is issued for both been visa granted / refusal.

I really hope its granted!

Waiting makes everyone anxious but you just have to be patient and hope for the best.

Hello,
Unfortunately, my spouse visa has been refused for not meeting financial requirement. I applied in category B and provided salary slips for both employers (previous and current employer) along with bank statement.
However, in the refusal letter it says that you have not provided payslips for previous employer although a letter of employment and bank statement are provided but payslips are missing.
This is so untrue as I provided the payslips as well. It is in the bundle my wife gave in vfs for scanning and she knows the sequence of scan and only appendix B was not scanned as they stated it is not required any more.
They scanned all payslips. I also provided P60 forms as evidence and even in my cover letter I mentioned all documents I provided.
For some reasons the immigration officer has overlooked the documents provided and could not find where the payslips are?
When my wife completed the scanning of docs she signed in the document checklist form and that was counter signed by vfs staff. However, it was not provided to her and they kept it and said this will be kept by us.
This is so frustrating.
What are my options now I have 28 days for appeal. I think in that process can I again upload salary slips that I previously provided. Or what wording should I use. Can I say please show me the checklist form?
I am absolutely gutted please help me with the best options

zaf1 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:16 pm

Hello,
Unfortunately, my spouse visa has been refused for not meeting financial requirement. I applied in category B and provided salary slips for both employers (previous and current employer) along with bank statement.
However, in the refusal letter it says that you have not provided payslips for previous employer although a letter of employment and bank statement are provided but payslips are missing.
This is so untrue as I provided the payslips as well. It is in the bundle my wife gave in vfs for scanning and she knows the sequence of scan and only appendix B was not scanned as they stated it is not required any more.
They scanned all payslips. I also provided P60 forms as evidence and even in my cover letter I mentioned all documents I provided.
For some reasons the immigration officer has overlooked the documents provided and could not find where the payslips are?
When my wife completed the scanning of docs she signed in the document checklist form and that was counter signed by vfs staff. However, it was not provided to her and they kept it and said this will be kept by us.
This is so frustrating.
What are my options now I have 28 days for appeal. I think in that process can I again upload salary slips that I previously provided. Or what wording should I use. Can I say please show me the checklist form?
I am absolutely gutted please help me with the best options

Had you sent 12 months of payslips (from present + previous employer)??

Yes, I did send infact 13 months (12 months for previous employer May 2018 to April 2019) and one month for present employer.

Not sure how they missed it ?

They acknowledge bank statements (15 May 2018- 31 May 2019 slightly more than 12 months again) and previous employer letter.

I also provided P60 forms for past four months with same previous employer.

In case my salary slips were missing or not scanned why vfs staff not flagged that up during checklist tick, sign and counter sign. My wife was told all docs are complete and application submitted. Normally if something missing in checklist it is atleast mentioned to applicant.

I shall be extremely grateful to all of you.

Please advise me best option. I feel if I reapply it would mean I am guilty although not sure how long the appeal process could be but clearly I have slips I can send it again via email but they did not even bother to ask me.

I submitted a sponsor support letter as well with all submitted docs listed are previous salary slips were mentioned in it. It had my contact details as well in case something goes missing.

If vfs did not scan how can we be held responsible as my wife was not allowed to see screen to check what is really uploaded on system

If the payslips were correctly scanned and uploaded by VFS staff then it must be the error from UKVI side which is very similar to those when in near past the members send these through post. If that is the case then along with appealing lodged a complaint and ask for quick reconsideration. However, if you can afford then simply re-apply but this time scan the documents by yourself.

In pakistan the vfs does not let you self upload and want to charge you for premium services.

Anyway, I can only upload via a third partner to be reliable as self uploading again has similar issues you can not ascertain what docs get uploaded.

The purpose of checklist is to ensure all docs are complete. So, I feel home office should look at that if vfs missed some docs really.

Appeal although can be long but most lawyers advising that.

I suspect that the staff at VFS centre hadn't scanned and uploaded your payslips properly that caused the refusal. Another member few weeks ago got the refusal where vfs staff hadn't scanned his wedding pictures which caused refusal on grounds that both partners not met in person on wedding. I am afraid as they won't accept their responsibility and also sadly they don't give any confirmation as what they have uploaded & sent.

Many Thanks Seagul and all for useful suggestions.

After taking your opinions and speaking with a few immigration lawyers. I have been advised on the pros and cons of both appeal and reapply.

The consensus opinion is that I will likely win appeal however it can take from anywhere between 4-10 months or even longer.
and if I reapply I will get my wife here a lot quicker but would lose money. One way or the other will lose money to lawyers or to home office

I am thinking if I reapply with priority service (6 weeks) again in the next few weeks or so do I need be concern about it can be rejected again. Most probably I will use 90% same docs but few additional slips and bank statements of course. My wife would need to retake the TB test as her test is expiring on 10th October.
Next time how can I be 100% assured vfs would do its job properly.

Am I correct to think my chances are greater in reapplication if I remove earlier objection (of course I did attach payslips before as well )
This time perhaps I can mention it somewhere in the online form the checklist of docs I am submitting? but form has limit on no of words. Please advise me I do not want to lose money again

zaf1 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:40 pm

Many Thanks Seagul and all for useful suggestions.

After taking your opinions and speaking with a few immigration lawyers. I have been advised on the pros and cons of both appeal and reapply.

The consensus opinion is that I will likely win appeal however it can take from anywhere between 4-10 months or even longer.
and if I reapply I will get my wife here a lot quicker but would lose money. One way or the other will lose money to lawyers or to home office

I am thinking if I reapply with priority service (6 weeks) again in the next few weeks or so do I need be concern about it can be rejected again. Most probably I will use 90% same docs but few additional slips and bank statements of course. My wife would need to retake the TB test as her test is expiring on 10th October.
Next time how can I be 100% assured vfs would do its job properly.

Am I correct to think my chances are greater in reapplication if I remove earlier objection (of course I did attach payslips before as well )
This time perhaps I can mention it somewhere in the online form the checklist of docs I am submitting? but form has limit on no of words. Please advise me I do not want to lose money again

Priority service might not work in your case because of having prior refusal. If you will made the new application until 10th October then you wont need the new TB test. Why not this time you as a sponsor scan and upload the documents from UK VFS centre. Also remember that each new application will be dealt on its own merit and it doesnt mean if they have refused you only due to missing payslips while rest of the documents were satisfactory rather they can still refuse you on other reasons for which you have to strictly complied with their guidance. Get all documents and make sure that especially the financial, employment documents and accommodation documents are not older than 28 days and if now you have completed 6 months with present employer then preferably apply under category A. Also dont forget to attach wedding pictures, whatsapp chat/calls or any other document which prove subsisting relationship as much as you can.

Thanks, Seagul again for words of caution!

Some immigration lawyers suggested you can still apply priority service but I will speak to more tomorrow and day after.

I will complete 6 months with current employer end of oct. But my thinking was since home office said I did not upload/supplied previous employer payslip which in reality I did and on that basis I got my ILR . I do not want to appear guilty and want to show them I have these payslips and are attached now again.

Maybe I will write a note about it in extra/additional information section on the online application.

The truth about self-uploading or uploading documents in UK or vfs global or even sending them to scanning hub is all same. Most lawyers said that your case is exceptional and vfs normally do scan docs alright maybe your wife can be more prudent this time and ask them questions/checks to ensure all docs are uploaded.
Plus my wife already has organized bundle of docs she took to vfs global last time so it will be little effort on her part to add a few more docs or update them. All we can do is to make sure they all are scan and uploaded and not leave until its all done.

I think same system is in the UK. In the UK they have a slow (page by page) scanners I think which take very long time and most of the time you have to leave docs with a member of staff who ensures you that he/she will upload them. If you send docs to scanning hub you can still not be sure that they scanned it all. I have seen some rejections where sponsor/applicant posted a bundle of docs to the home office and home office still came up with rejection saying they have not received a certain document.
Self uploading with application from outside the UK particularly from Pakistan is a myth. This option is quitely muted and even if it works it is the most unreliable one as you can not even see what's uploaded and would see page crashing many times in the process. VFS global has fast speed scanners but to ensure it is uploading documents applicants have to question each doc been uploaded or at least request to see the screen. Maybe I will see if I can book a premium lounge or send an email to vfsglobal with my appointment confirmation to ensure all docs are uploaded and we had rejection before!

Yes, I understand application will have new merits but at least they should not object to anything they did not objected before. I will ensure all docs are dated within 28 days.

One clarification is it 28 days from the online application submission or from the date of biometric/docs upload???????
For tb test you may be right but been bitten by the home office once I might ask her to retake the test will see!

zaf1 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:11 pm

One clarification is it 28 days from the online application submission or from the date of biometric/docs upload???????

online application submission

Thanks again!

I will reapply via solicitor this time as I am scared now . Solicitor would cost more but at least more checks on my application would be still better than another rejection. Plus solicitor said they would submit docs here in the UK and I do not have to worry about they will get a receipt from vfs and they never had any issues with regard to uploading.

One minor issue I had was that when I started my new job for the 1st payslip due to some error my pension was not deduced. However, I spoke with HR and they agreed that it was a payroll error and you are auto enrolled in pensions as they contributed their part but only employee deduction was not made. HR said they will deduce the pension for 2 months in the next month slip. In following month two pensions were deduced as agreed but in payslip only one was reflected. Please note gross pay is the same but since two pensions were deduced the amount credited to my bank account is one pension less and there is this discrepancy (150 pound).

I spoke with my solicitor they said if you get a letter from HR explaining it that should be no problem. My HR is also happy to issue a letter as per solicitor suggestions. HR would also issue all my slips on letterhead pads with gross amount only. I will use along with normal slips that I receive via post which have gross pay, tax deductions, NI deduction and pension contributions. These letter would be on letterhead pad, signed and stamped.

Another thing is I will write a sentence or so about this in my online application and would also write why my 1st application was refused and I have attached the missing payslips in the new application and supporting docs would be uploaded by vfs UK.

I just want to clarify (sanity check) that this should not be a problem ?

Thanks.

zaf1 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:34 am

Thanks again!

1. I will reapply via solicitor this time as I am scared now . Solicitor would cost more but at least more checks on my application would be still better than another rejection. Plus solicitor said they would submit docs here in the UK and I do not have to worry about they will get a receipt from vfs and they never had any issues with regard to uploading.

2. One minor issue I had was that when I started my new job for the 1st payslip due to some error my pension was not deduced. However, I spoke with HR and they agreed that it was a payroll error and you are auto enrolled in pensions as they contributed their part but only employee deduction was not made. HR said they will deduce the pension for 2 months in the next month slip. In following month two pensions were deduced as agreed but in payslip only one was reflected. Please note gross pay is the same but since two pensions were deduced the amount credited to my bank account is one pension less and there is this discrepancy (150 pound).

3. I spoke with my solicitor they said if you get a letter from HR explaining it that should be no problem. My HR is also happy to issue a letter as per solicitor suggestions. HR would also issue all my slips on letterhead pads with gross amount only. I will use along with normal slips that I receive via post which have gross pay, tax deductions, NI deduction and pension contributions. These letter would be on letterhead pad, signed and stamped.

4. Another thing is I will write a sentence or so about this in my online application and would also write why my 1st application was refused and I have attached the missing payslips in the new application and supporting docs would be uploaded by vfs UK.

I just want to clarify (sanity check) that this should not be a problem ?

Thanks.

1. That's what I suggested you in previous post that preferably you scan documents from UK this time.

2. That error is very common because according to new govt policy the employers get enrolled their employees on auto pension scheme despite a lot of them have the option to opt out later.

3. Yes covering letter can sort this out but still try your best to repeat same clarification regarding discrepancy in wages credit due to pension scheme in additional info of the form too so that caseworker doesn't overlook it at all because its very important aspect.

4. Yes you can briefly explain it in same covering letter

While sifting through the docs for a new application. My wife found a checklist all ticked and signed by her and vfs staff.

This had all ticks again for previous employer salary slip as well. This is again irrefutable proof I submitted my previous slips.

I do not really want to go into appeal but is there any chance of quick justice as appeal can take very long time and quickest way is fast track new application.

Is it possible to raise this issue in complain after filling my 2nd application and asking for refund ?

BLV ME IT WAS NOT MY FAULT. I AM GENERALLY VERY PRUDENT

zaf1 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:05 am

While sifting through the docs for a new application. My wife found a checklist all ticked and signed by her and vfs staff.

This had all ticks again for previous employer salary slip as well. This is again irrefutable proof I submitted my previous slips.

I do not really want to go into appeal but is there any chance of quick justice as appeal can take very long time and quickest way is fast track new application.

Is it possible to raise this issue in complain after filling my 2nd application and asking for refund ?

BLV ME IT WAS NOT MY FAULT. I AM GENERALLY VERY PRUDENT

Refund wont be possible but you can complain them and also involve your local MP but it might take considerable amount of time.