Appeal Allowed Visa Stamped Timings - Pakistan

zully wrote:

Immi121 wrote:

zully wrote:

LoveMyBaby786 wrote:What do they mean by letter of support can anyone explain to me please.

My answer was fit the other gentleman about handing his papers to court... It's basically your evidence and any additional keeper. Which will support your case really..

Sir, please can you explain what "any additional keeper" means. Am also preparing for hearing and like all people here want to make sure don't miss out on sending important docs.

Would really like your expert opinion on this!

Thank you in advance!

Firstly people I'd like to say sorry my phone just randomly writes...
Ok so you can send any information support and a support letter, this support letter just tells the home office rep why the case should be allowed... Also when judge reads it it helps them too...
You will receive your court date and it will give your your home office rep information on there.
You can send these docs at any time but no later than 5 days before date.
I luckily didn't get my bundle sent back to the uk, so it was a massive help as the home office rep didn't have any thing to back his case up..
I hope that helps you guys.....
P.s. I am a lady and the best of luck to you guys I hope your patience pays off..
Zully

Oops sorry. Thank you so much for the advise though! Very helpful.

When I first sent off for my appeal I included a letter of support about the points they refused us on. Should I include this in my bundle I send off for the court hearing or is it better for me to make a new one stating why I think my husband should get his visa. I am so confused now :S

EID MUBARAK to all of u
May Allah bless you and your dear ones with peace, propsperity nd happines on the auspicious occasion of EID UI FITAR
EID MUBARAK

munashak wrote: EID MUBARAK to all of u
May Allah bless you and your dear ones with peace, propsperity nd happines on the auspicious occasion of EID UI FITAR
EID MUBARAK

Thank you. It will be so much better when we are able to celebrate this day with the one we love and cherish. Going on skype and singing a few eid songs just isn't the same as celebrating together in person. Anyway best stop this chitchat, don't want to suffer the wrath of the moderators.

Immi121 wrote:

munashak wrote: EID MUBARAK to all of u
May Allah bless you and your dear ones with peace, propsperity nd happines on the auspicious occasion of EID UI FITAR
EID MUBARAK

Thank you. It will be so much better when we are able to celebrate this day with the one we love and cherish. Going on skype and singing a few eid songs just isn't the same as celebrating together in person. Anyway best stop this chitchat, don't want to suffer the wrath of the moderators.

yeh its true but dnt worry IN SHA ALLAH soon all will be celebrate with their hubbies.

akhan47 wrote:Can anyone advise me on the following situation?

My wife was rejected because she didn't do the English test. She submitted a BA degree certificate with no Naric statement. After being rejected she passed the English language tests.

We also got a Naric statement for the BA degree but it says it is only equivalent to GCE Advanced.

Hearing is in 3 weeks. I shall be sending in my documents next week. What are my chances? My solicitor is 100% convinced she will be rejected.

Anyone?

Just received my court date for 13/03/2014
Which is six months away does anyone
Know what I can do to get early court date
I rang tribunal there said everyone is getting
Court dates six months away due to high
Number of appeals

nawaz86 wrote:Just received my court date for 13/03/2014
Which is six months away does anyone
Know what I can do to get early court date
I rang tribunal there said everyone is getting
Court dates six months away due to high
Number of appeals

very far you to write letter for amended court date

Hello Guys, Hope all is well. Sorry not been on this for 3-4 weeks as been busy since coming back from Pakistan as trying to get all my appeal sorted and GUESS WHAT I managed to get my case expedited and thanks god and everyone else for all there help here as I was not thinking I will get an early court date.

I actually got 2 expedites approved as firstly AIT sent me a date for 22nd January 2014 which was expedited according to there customer services department and the letter they sent but I went to the Tribunal in Glasgow and asked them the meaning of expedition as 6 month's for a hearing does not look like an expedition and then after some weeks I think last week they sent me a letter to state my court case has been adjourned and listed for hearing on 29th August 2013.

Please guys do pray for me as my case was sent back to lawyer on 2nd August and the reason given is as usual "We have not had time to look at your file due to shortage of staff". I am now feeling really anxious as I do not want to go to court and just want the case overturned as it was solid appeal with all ground covered. Please pray for a quick resolution as I really was surprised and shocked I got a court date approx 1 month after my deadline date which is even quicker than there standard processing time.

Again thanks for all the people who helped and provided information and now hoping for a overturn as feeling so scared and wobbly going to court

Have a good day.

Thanks

My friend I am sorry to hear this but they are looking for points to refuse and this is a very common point they refuse on.

Believe me appeal systems are taking forever as people are getting court dates 7-8 months away and the appeal takes more than one year so I would advise you just to submit new case as you should hear back within 3-5 months.

The costs are a bit more expensive but when you work it out it levels out on the same. Best bet is to send new application with more evidence covering the refusal as well.

I hope this information is of help to you.

Have a good day.

Thanks

Malik247 wrote:my wife received SMS for RFC she was very happy till collect the passport Eco refused her visa.we have been very disappointment.


{Eco says I m not satisfied your relationship with your spouse is genuine and subsisting you have submitted no evidence whatsoever of any other contact between you and ur sponsor }

I submitted photograph and marriage certificate and phone bill one of my VoIP phone we talk daily via this phone number I think this is enough proof for relation


What should we do we go for appeal or resubmit the case very pain full procedure need help

Application 05/04/2013
Process. 18/05/2013
RFC. 25/07/2013
Visa refused

Yes indeed people who had deadlines in June/July/August are getting court dates for Feb/March and this is the situation all over the UK.

To be honest expedition request can be sent but it does depend on your luck as I did not think i would get an expedite request approved but they did within one day and I was totally shocked as otherwise I would have been suicidal waiting that long.

You can send a request but with valid reasons and supporting evidence but seriously I think sometimes depends on your KISMAT if you are a believer of that lol :0

Wish you all the best and hope it is all sorted soon for everyone here!

Thanks

nawaz86 wrote:Just received my court date for 13/03/2014
Which is six months away does anyone
Know what I can do to get early court date
I rang tribunal there said everyone is getting
Court dates six months away due to high
Number of appeals

Hi,

This is a tricky one but if she has done the English tests you can provide that to the judge and show them she has a degree taught in English but she has done the standard required by UKBA as well as they only want to see if the appellant is matching the requirements so as far as I think it should not be rejected as you solicitor maybe wrong but do seek expert opinion as all my casework for the hearing is being handled by my lawyer.

I was refused on wage slips but my employer is going to court with me as my lawyer is going to be preparing his witness statement but he said if he goes then to be honest Home Office don't have anything to stand on so he will go and if he does not go as well then still they probably do not have a chance!

I hope this information is of help to you.

Have a good day.

Thanks

akhan47 wrote:

akhan47 wrote:Can anyone advise me on the following situation?

My wife was rejected because she didn't do the English test. She submitted a BA degree certificate with no Naric statement. After being rejected she passed the English language tests.

We also got a Naric statement for the BA degree but it says it is only equivalent to GCE Advanced.

Hearing is in 3 weeks. I shall be sending in my documents next week. What are my chances? My solicitor is 100% convinced she will be rejected.

Anyone?

Sorry to be going crazy on the posts but probably will not have time over next week as really busy.

May I ask can anyone please help me even though lawyer is doing everything and has advised me the procedure but has anyone went through a hearing and can give me some extra valuable information or opinions on the below question.

1. Can the case still get overturned as I have a funny felling of this as I do not see why Home Office is going to be fighting when they did not bother checking the file as they never had staff to check it.
2. My cousin was saying that sometimes Home Office Rep does not turn up at court and judge just makes a decision normally in your favor.
3. I am really scared never went to court can you advise how the judges are as my lawyer said most of them are fine but one or two in Glasgow just look for a point to refuse.
4. How long does it take at court and what questions does the judge ask.
5. Can you tell if your visa has been overturned there or you need to wait for determination letter and how long.

Sorry for going on and on but I have been feeling anxious and weird since getting the court date which is only some days away now and information would be obliged.

Have a good day.

Thanks

Malik247 wrote:my wife received SMS for RFC she was very happy till collect the passport Eco refused her visa.we have been very disappointment.


{Eco says I m not satisfied your relationship with your spouse is genuine and subsisting you have submitted no evidence whatsoever of any other contact between you and ur sponsor }

I submitted photograph and marriage certificate and phone bill one of my VoIP phone we talk daily via this phone number I think this is enough proof for relation


What should we do we go for appeal or resubmit the case very pain full procedure need help

Application 05/04/2013
Process. 18/05/2013
RFC. 25/07/2013
Visa refused

You have to consider the following, can you realistically afford to re-apply? £800-£900 is a lot of money, for some people more than 3 weeks of wages. So can you afford that? Only you will know the answer.

Secondly, if your marriage is genuine and is subsisting, then you'll have no problems proving it in court. The problem is, going to court whilst almost certainly you'll be successful if that is the only point of refusal, it will take severak months, possibly 9/10 or even very unlucky a year.

It is a long time and you'll have to consider both options, my personal recommendation is to always appeal, I wouldn't even consider giving these incompetent baffoons the pleasure of earning another £900 for doing diddly squat.

HaroonAli wrote:1. Can the case still get overturned as I have a funny felling of this as I do not see why Home Office is going to be fighting when they did not bother checking the file as they never had staff to check it.
2. My cousin was saying that sometimes Home Office Rep does not turn up at court and judge just makes a decision normally in your favor.
3. I am really scared never went to court can you advise how the judges are as my lawyer said most of them are fine but one or two in Glasgow just look for a point to refuse.
4. How long does it take at court and what questions does the judge ask.
5. Can you tell if your visa has been overturned there or you need to wait for determination letter and how long.

I have answered all these questions in previous posts within this thread, maybe 10-15 pages back.

But here goes.

1. Yes, the case can get overturned even the day before the court hearing, it has happened before and purely because the Home Office representatives don't want to get insulted in court.

2. About 30-50% of the time no one turns up from the HO and so the judge asks you why you should get the VISA, and almost always unless it's a difficult case, he'll pretty much rule in your favour.

3. All judges have to make decisions based on fact and the correct decision, some will seem more strict than others, but they are accountable and can be prosecuted like any one else, so they have to make the correct decision. If you have evidence and know you meet the criteria for a VISA, why worry?

4. Most cases don't last more than 10 mins, in fact I've only ever heard of one going more than 30 mins. Judges don't like wasting time, no one does. So expect to be in and out of their within 15 mins tops.

5. They usually give you some form a sign to let you know you'll get your VISA, a smile or a nod or something like that. But they usually don't say it verbally, that will come in the determination letter. The call letter from the UKBA regional office be it Islamabad or Abu Dhabi varies, sometimes it's quick and you get VISA within 5/6 weeks. Other times it's longer and you could wait a further 3 months. I don't want to get your hopes up high but you're lookign at about 2 months on average.

HaroonAli wrote:Hi,

This is a tricky one but if she has done the English tests you can provide that to the judge and show them she has a degree taught in English but she has done the standard required by UKBA as well as they only want to see if the appellant is matching the requirements so as far as I think it should not be rejected as you solicitor maybe wrong but do seek expert opinion as all my casework for the hearing is being handled by my lawyer.

I was refused on wage slips but my employer is going to court with me as my lawyer is going to be preparing his witness statement but he said if he goes then to be honest Home Office don't have anything to stand on so he will go and if he does not go as well then still they probably do not have a chance!

I hope this information is of help to you.

Have a good day.

Thanks

akhan47 wrote:

akhan47 wrote:Can anyone advise me on the following situation?

My wife was rejected because she didn't do the English test. She submitted a BA degree certificate with no Naric statement. After being rejected she passed the English language tests.

We also got a Naric statement for the BA degree but it says it is only equivalent to GCE Advanced.

Hearing is in 3 weeks. I shall be sending in my documents next week. What are my chances? My solicitor is 100% convinced she will be rejected.

Anyone?

Thank you Haroon. It's good to have you back. I'm happy your hearing was brought forward, it's a few days before mine... Good luck. InshaAllah Allah will help us all be together with our families soon.

@Haroon Ali
Thats really good news..
Congrates

@ HAROON
best of luck very good news

Much appreciated for the below information which is of great help as I did think that Home Office reps sometimes turn up and sometimes do not as my case has been adjourned and I do not think they will come as got a funny feeling about it.

However I am scared as never been to court even though all evidence is backed up with further documents and my employer will probably go to court as that was the reason for refusal so if he goes my lawyer says then no worries.

Anyway appreciated for the information as the time is nearing feeling confident + anxious as well.

For everyone else all the best and please do pray for me as it will be most appreciated.

Have a good day!

king2be98 wrote:

HaroonAli wrote:1. Can the case still get overturned as I have a funny felling of this as I do not see why Home Office is going to be fighting when they did not bother checking the file as they never had staff to check it.
2. My cousin was saying that sometimes Home Office Rep does not turn up at court and judge just makes a decision normally in your favor.
3. I am really scared never went to court can you advise how the judges are as my lawyer said most of them are fine but one or two in Glasgow just look for a point to refuse.
4. How long does it take at court and what questions does the judge ask.
5. Can you tell if your visa has been overturned there or you need to wait for determination letter and how long.

I have answered all these questions in previous posts within this thread, maybe 10-15 pages back.

But here goes.

1. Yes, the case can get overturned even the day before the court hearing, it has happened before and purely because the Home Office representatives don't want to get insulted in court.

2. About 30-50% of the time no one turns up from the HO and so the judge asks you why you should get the VISA, and almost always unless it's a difficult case, he'll pretty much rule in your favour.

3. All judges have to make decisions based on fact and the correct decision, some will seem more strict than others, but they are accountable and can be prosecuted like any one else, so they have to make the correct decision. If you have evidence and know you meet the criteria for a VISA, why worry?

4. Most cases don't last more than 10 mins, in fact I've only ever heard of one going more than 30 mins. Judges don't like wasting time, no one does. So expect to be in and out of their within 15 mins tops.

5. They usually give you some form a sign to let you know you'll get your VISA, a smile or a nod or something like that. But they usually don't say it verbally, that will come in the determination letter. The call letter from the UKBA regional office be it Islamabad or Abu Dhabi varies, sometimes it's quick and you get VISA within 5/6 weeks. Other times it's longer and you could wait a further 3 months. I don't want to get your hopes up high but you're lookign at about 2 months on average.

My husbands appeal was recently allowed (2 weeks ago) and he is now currently awaiting the call letter for him to submit his passport.

Would it be possible to contact / email Islamabad and ask them to email me a copy of the letter so that my husband can print it off as he lives in a small village and there can be problems with post. If so what is the email address or telephone number I need to contact?

Also what else will he need to submit along with his passport? The call letter and a copy of my passport? (Just the photo page)? Is there anything else he needs to submit? Will he also need to submit a valid tb certificate? His previous certificate will have expired, will he need a new one to travel?

Is there any other information we need to know?

Apologies for the long message and endless questions.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Hi Guys,

I am new to this and was wondering if anyone can shed some light on this.

I took all my necessary supporting documents to Pakistan to apply for my husband's visa which we did on the 16th March 2013, visa refused on 26th June 2013. The visa application was refused because I did not provide bank statements to show my wage coming into the account. I provide P60, 7 months wage slips, HR Letter, Business cards etc. I am very annoyed at the consultant in Pakistan as he advised bank statements are not important as my wage exceeded the requirement set!!

I applied on the 15th July 2013 where I provided 2 P60's, 12 months worth of wage slips and bank statements showing the wage entering my account on a monthly basis. I have not gone through a solicitor has my case is straight forward however did get advise, I was told the decision should get overturned.

I am a little worried I have not heard anything as yet and no money has been taken out of my account. Please can someone let me know based on your experiences, what will happen now? Will I just get a letter with a date on there which will basically mean the ECM is given up until that time to overturn the decision?

Thanks

If you ring the AIT helpline number they tell you which date they are currently working on, ie. they might say they're currently working on appeals lodged on the 10th of July. This time last year they were 5 weeks behind, not sure how far behind they are now.

As for your appeal, it does look pretty straightforward if you were only refused on one ground.

So your appeal should indicate ignorance without actually stating it and the wage slips. I don't know why people trust consultants from Pakistan who are purely in it for making money. It clearly shows what kind of a consultant he is if he is advising you not to include wage slips.

Give it 2 weeks, you should get a "Notice of pending appeal" letter. The deadline will be 19 weeks after the have processed your appeal. If you're lucky, you'll get an overturned decision within 2/3 months.

sir i have lost my refrence number of uktb test for appointment from where i can get it again

mateen khan wrote:sir i have lost my refrence number of uktb test for appointment from where i can get it again

Try calling up the centre you arranged the appointment with, see if they can provide you. If not google the centre's number.

If you haven't paid yet, then just re-book.

i have apply by mail and i try to call them but the number is busy is there and site or something else from where i can get it

thans & regards