Appeal Allowed Visa Stamped Timings - Pakistan

We received the same as ShaeenZaid,

Trbibunal advised hearing date for Jan-2014 (deadline was end of Nov 2013) but we have not been advised of reasons for decision being upheld despite further supporting documentation we sent across to them.

I spoke to someone at Contact centre who advised ECM does not always advise why when they return pack, many cases their statement just says decision has been upheld.

HaroonAli wrote:Can you ask your lawyer why Islamabad ECM sent your documents backs normally they give a reason on why they send the documents back to the UK for a hearing date.

I hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Have a good day.

Thanks

ShaheenZaid wrote:I'm not sure what you mean :l
The letter just says notice of hearing then the date and directions etc..

HaroonAli wrote:That is actually very good as normally a court date is not sent until the ECM Deadline date.

However looks like maybe they have reviewed the file and decided to uphold the decision. May I ask can you ask your lawyer what decision did the ECM give when they sent the bundle back as then you should get some clear understanding as normally they do not do this unless a decision for appeal has been upheld.

I hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Have a good day.

Thanks

ShaheenZaid wrote:So my deadline was on November 19th but alhumdulillah I've received my court letter for January..
I'm guessing this is good news seeing as there's people still waiting for court dates and their deadlines have passed by..

I have just noted there are 2-3 applicants who have got there documents back before the review dates and it looks like ECM have upheld the decision.

I think you should check the letter BHC send back with the file as they will give a decision such as either uphelding the decision or not checking the file due to the ECM being short of staff.

Anyway hope all goes well and the appeals get overturned.

Have a good day.

Thanks

aka789 wrote:We received the same as ShaeenZaid,

Trbibunal advised hearing date for Jan-2014 (deadline was end of Nov 2013) but we have not been advised of reasons for decision being upheld despite further supporting documentation we sent across to them.

I spoke to someone at Contact centre who advised ECM does not always advise why when they return pack, many cases their statement just says decision has been upheld.

HaroonAli wrote:Can you ask your lawyer why Islamabad ECM sent your documents backs normally they give a reason on why they send the documents back to the UK for a hearing date.

I hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Have a good day.

Thanks

ShaheenZaid wrote:I'm not sure what you mean :l
The letter just says notice of hearing then the date and directions etc..

HaroonAli wrote:That is actually very good as normally a court date is not sent until the ECM Deadline date.

However looks like maybe they have reviewed the file and decided to uphold the decision. May I ask can you ask your lawyer what decision did the ECM give when they sent the bundle back as then you should get some clear understanding as normally they do not do this unless a decision for appeal has been upheld.

I hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Have a good day.

Thanks

That is not bad too be honest as normally court dates are going into March/April and ahead.

Your lucky but why did they send your file back before the deadline date.

I hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Have a good day.

Thanks

Sadia786 wrote:My review deadline was 5th December..
But today i got court date which z 28th of Jan 2014..

i am very upset coz court hearing result is not in mine favour. did not allow the appeal

munashak wrote:i am very upset coz court hearing result is not in mine favour. did not allow the appeal

I'm so sorry to hear that..
What did they ask u in court? Why wasn't ur appeal allowed..

Yeah same as me..
There's no reason just says the appeal will be heard in January.
I hope we all get them overturned before the court date in shaa Allah & our spouses are with us for new year

aka789 wrote:We received the same as ShaeenZaid,

Trbibunal advised hearing date for Jan-2014 (deadline was end of Nov 2013) but we have not been advised of reasons for decision being upheld despite further supporting documentation we sent across to them.

I spoke to someone at Contact centre who advised ECM does not always advise why when they return pack, many cases their statement just says decision has been upheld.

HaroonAli wrote:Can you ask your lawyer why Islamabad ECM sent your documents backs normally they give a reason on why they send the documents back to the UK for a hearing date.

I hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Have a good day.

Thanks

ShaheenZaid wrote:I'm not sure what you mean :l
The letter just says notice of hearing then the date and directions etc..

HaroonAli wrote:That is actually very good as normally a court date is not sent until the ECM Deadline date.

However looks like maybe they have reviewed the file and decided to uphold the decision. May I ask can you ask your lawyer what decision did the ECM give when they sent the bundle back as then you should get some clear understanding as normally they do not do this unless a decision for appeal has been upheld.

I hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Have a good day.

Thanks

munashak wrote:i am very upset coz court hearing result is not in mine favour. did not allow the appeal

m Really sorri to hear that..
can u help us on which points u loozd ur appeal??
z ur hubby's employer was not wid him in court or he any othr reason??
infct m refused on same bases like u..thts y gettin so worried

HaroonAli wrote:That is not bad too be honest as normally court dates are going into March/April and ahead.

Your lucky but why did they send your file back before the deadline date.

I hope to hear back soon from yourself.

Have a good day.

Thanks

Sadia786 wrote:My review deadline was 5th December..
But today i got court date which z 28th of Jan 2014..

They didnt give any reason..jus stated about court date & directions..
Our lawyer z sayin its good tht u people r gettin normal court dates which r 6 weeks away frm ur review deadline:)

akhan47 wrote:My hearing was last Monday, we received determination letter on Friday saying the appeal has been rejected. We had no chance on immigration rules however, I felt like my wife should have been given the visa under article 8.

The Judge seems to have overlooked a lot of the comments I made in my statement. I will be appealing to the upper tribunal.

we recieved determination letter by saying that appeal has been dissmised.dnt know what will happen? go to upper tribunal or re apply

Its been 3 weeks since our appeal ECM deadline and still waiting for a court date to be set

You guys are lucky u got so quick ur hearing date

good luck

I am in the same boat guys, I really hope that you all get your decisions in your favour.

My court hearing has arrived and am trying my best to get a early court hearing or get decision overturned !

Oh I am very sorry to hear that.

I would advise you to put a new application rather than appealing to upper tribunal.
Best option is to submit new application it will be expensive but much better than all the hassle.

Have a good day.

Thanks

Haroon Ali

munashak wrote:i am very upset coz court hearing result is not in mine favour. did not allow the appeal

Now I am really annoyed today as I call the Home Office Glasgow and have just had all sorts of conflicting information from them since the appeal has been allowed.

1st Call (2-3 Weeks Ago) - We have the appeal and can confirm it has been allowed and will process shortly.

2nd Call (1-2 Weeks Ago) - We can confirm that we will not be appealing against the judges decision and will be forwarding your determination to the relevant embassy and you shall get call in letter very soon.

3rd Call (Today) - I am sorry to say but we have not sent the determination to Islamabad as we do not have it but I will deal with it very quickly.

I AM TOTALLY ANNOYED AT THIS CARRY ON BY HOME OFFICE THEY HAVE GAVE ME SO MANY CONFLICTING INFORMATION AS THOUGHT WOULD HAVE HAD CALL IN LETTER NOW AS I EMAILED BHC AS WELL BUT THEY NEVER GOT BACK EITHER.

Have a good day.

Thanks

HaroonAli wrote:Oh I am very sorry to hear that.

I would advise you to put a new application rather than appealing to upper tribunal.
Best option is to submit new application it will be expensive but much better than all the hassle.

Have a good day.

Thanks

Haroon Ali

munashak wrote:i am very upset coz court hearing result is not in mine favour. did not allow the appeal

yes u are right re apply is better

You should fax them the determination letter. That is what I did, then they wont have any excuse for not getting it.

Thanks

HaroonAli wrote:Now I am really annoyed today as I call the Home Office Glasgow and have just had all sorts of conflicting information from them since the appeal has been allowed.

1st Call (2-3 Weeks Ago) - We have the appeal and can confirm it has been allowed and will process shortly.

2nd Call (1-2 Weeks Ago) - We can confirm that we will not be appealing against the judges decision and will be forwarding your determination to the relevant embassy and you shall get call in letter very soon.

3rd Call (Today) - I am sorry to say but we have not sent the determination to Islamabad as we do not have it but I will deal with it very quickly.

I AM TOTALLY ANNOYED AT THIS CARRY ON BY HOME OFFICE THEY HAVE GAVE ME SO MANY CONFLICTING INFORMATION AS THOUGHT WOULD HAVE HAD CALL IN LETTER NOW AS I EMAILED BHC AS WELL BUT THEY NEVER GOT BACK EITHER.

Have a good day.

Thanks

Sadia786 wrote:

munashak wrote:i am very upset coz court hearing result is not in mine favour. did not allow the appeal

m Really sorri to hear that..
can u help us on which points u loozd ur appeal??
z ur hubby's employer was not wid him in court or he any othr reason??
infct m refused on same bases like u..thts y gettin so worried

Yeah can u please let us know what exactly they asked you in court..
I'd really like to know so I can have a rough idea beforehand..
Our visas been rufused over finances too.

Hi everyone

My wife has sent her passport to BHC Islamabad for the visa after our appeal was allowed. Can anyone please give me an indication on how long is it taking these days for the visa processing at Islamabad on allowed appeal applications.

Thank you

Hi Hardrocker,

did you get your decision overturned or went through the appeal process ?

if its appeal process, did you send in evidence before hand or you took it with you ?

I have heard that you get passport back next day or very quickly once they are submitted for stamping ! So don't have to wait for long iA!

hardrocker wrote:Hi everyone

My wife has sent her passport to BHC Islamabad for the visa after our appeal was allowed. Can anyone please give me an indication on how long is it taking these days for the visa processing at Islamabad on allowed appeal applications.

Thank you

Thanks RONZ

The appeal was allowed after the whole appeal process. We received the call letter from BHC Islamabad requesting to submit the passport which we did yesterday.

RONZ wrote:Hi Hardrocker,

did you get your decision overturned or went through the appeal process ?

if its appeal process, did you send in evidence before hand or you took it with you ?

I have heard that you get passport back next day or very quickly once they are submitted for stamping ! So don't have to wait for long iA!

hardrocker wrote:Hi everyone

My wife has sent her passport to BHC Islamabad for the visa after our appeal was allowed. Can anyone please give me an indication on how long is it taking these days for the visa processing at Islamabad on allowed appeal applications.

Thank you

Did you get instant decision on court hearing ? and how long you waited to get a call letter from the court hearing date ?, Mine court hearing is in Early January and am trying pull it before Christmas !

hardrocker wrote:Thanks RONZ

The appeal was allowed after the whole appeal process. We received the call letter from BHC Islamabad requesting to submit the passport which we did yesterday.

RONZ wrote:Hi Hardrocker,

did you get your decision overturned or went through the appeal process ?

if its appeal process, did you send in evidence before hand or you took it with you ?

I have heard that you get passport back next day or very quickly once they are submitted for stamping ! So don't have to wait for long iA!

hardrocker wrote:Hi everyone

My wife has sent her passport to BHC Islamabad for the visa after our appeal was allowed. Can anyone please give me an indication on how long is it taking these days for the visa processing at Islamabad on allowed appeal applications.

Thank you

My Time lline:

Spouse Settlement application made: 10 October 2012
Refused: 30 November 2012
Appeal made: 11 December 2012
Initial Deadline: 16 May 2013
Subsequent deadline: 16 July 2013
Appeal allowed: 10 September 2013
Paper appeal so no court hearing date.
Call Letter received: 1 October 2013
Passport submitted: 3 October 2013

RONZ wrote:Did you get instant decision on court hearing ? and how long you waited to get a call letter from the court hearing date ?, Mine court hearing is in Early January and am trying pull it before Christmas !

hardrocker wrote:Thanks RONZ

The appeal was allowed after the whole appeal process. We received the call letter from BHC Islamabad requesting to submit the passport which we did yesterday.

RONZ wrote:Hi Hardrocker,

did you get your decision overturned or went through the appeal process ?

if its appeal process, did you send in evidence before hand or you took it with you ?

I have heard that you get passport back next day or very quickly once they are submitted for stamping ! So don't have to wait for long iA!

hardrocker wrote:Hi everyone

My wife has sent her passport to BHC Islamabad for the visa after our appeal was allowed. Can anyone please give me an indication on how long is it taking these days for the visa processing at Islamabad on allowed appeal applications.

Thank you

As long as you meet financial requirement i.e produce required docs to proof of salaried\self employment with at least "6 Months" pay slips bank statement or Tax certificate that shows your net income is above 18600 you guys should not worry.

Obviously if you don't meet the required criteria as per guidance notes then am afraird there is no let off unless you get lucky - Allah knows best !

I was unlucky as I started my own business and it was too new to produce tax certificates etc and I got refused due to that although I believed I ticked all the boxes ... oh well .. tough but that's how it is am afraid.

ShaheenZaid wrote:

Sadia786 wrote:

munashak wrote:i am very upset coz court hearing result is not in mine favour. did not allow the appeal

m Really sorri to hear that..
can u help us on which points u loozd ur appeal??
z ur hubby's employer was not wid him in court or he any othr reason??
infct m refused on same bases like u..thts y gettin so worried

Yeah can u please let us know what exactly they asked you in court..
I'd really like to know so I can have a rough idea beforehand..
Our visas been rufused over finances too.

Alhamdulilah! Well done !
Let us know the timeline for passport pick up date so we can forecast ours !

hardrocker wrote:My Time lline:

Spouse Settlement application made: 10 October 2012
Refused: 30 November 2012
Appeal made: 11 December 2012
Initial Deadline: 16 May 2013
Subsequent deadline: 16 July 2013
Appeal allowed: 10 September 2013
Paper appeal so no court hearing date.
Call Letter received: 1 October 2013
Passport submitted: 3 October 2013

RONZ wrote:Did you get instant decision on court hearing ? and how long you waited to get a call letter from the court hearing date ?, Mine court hearing is in Early January and am trying pull it before Christmas !

hardrocker wrote:Thanks RONZ

The appeal was allowed after the whole appeal process. We received the call letter from BHC Islamabad requesting to submit the passport which we did yesterday.

RONZ wrote:Hi Hardrocker,

did you get your decision overturned or went through the appeal process ?

if its appeal process, did you send in evidence before hand or you took it with you ?

I have heard that you get passport back next day or very quickly once they are submitted for stamping ! So don't have to wait for long iA!

ShaheenZaid wrote:

Sadia786 wrote:

munashak wrote:i am very upset coz court hearing result is not in mine favour. did not allow the appeal

m Really sorri to hear that..
can u help us on which points u loozd ur appeal??
z ur hubby's employer was not wid him in court or he any othr reason??
infct m refused on same bases like u..thts y gettin so worried

Yeah can u please let us know what exactly they asked you in court..
I'd really like to know so I can have a rough idea beforehand..
Our visas been rufused over finances too.

Hi,

The court case will focus on your specific reasons for refusal. The questions will centre on how your spouse meets the financial requirement and what evidence he/she has to back that up.

When I went to some appeal hearings, one of the ones that I attended, the HO representative delved into the sponsors finances and employment status. There were a few generic questions to start of (who do you work for, how long) but then they were all specific. Questions asked of Munashak would mostly be specific to Munashak's sponsor's situation.

Bottom line is, if your sponsor is unable to meet the financial requirement or simply does not have the proof (as stipulated by the visa rules) then it will be unlikely that a visa will be granted. Unfortunately there is very limited possibility of a case going through on HR gounds. I believe Munashak's spouse argued on HR grounds but ultimately the appeal was rejected.

Sorry to sound negative but if your house is in order (i.e., you have the required evidence to prove you satisfy the conditions) then legally you will be fine and will get a decision in your favour.

Hey Ronz when was ur ECM deadline and how long after did you receive your court date
My husbands ECM deadline was 10th September but still we are waiting for our court date...

How long ago did you recieve your court date?

Thank you

RONZ wrote:I am in the same boat guys, I really hope that you all get your decisions in your favour.

My court hearing has arrived and am trying my best to get a early court hearing or get decision overturned !