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Re: Cash saving route

Post by Mfamily » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:51 pm

geoeng wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:09 pm
I've answered that question twice already. If someone else is telling you differently, you are free to go with what they've said as I'm far from an expert, just saying what's in the rules/guidance.
Thanks geoeng I'll act according to your advise. For me you're expert thanks for helping me.

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by Mfamily » Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:35 pm

Mfamily wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:51 pm
geoeng wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:09 pm
I've answered that question twice already. If someone else is telling you differently, you are free to go with what they've said as I'm far from an expert, just saying what's in the rules/guidance.
Thanks geoeng I'll act according to your advise. For me you're expert thanks for helping me.
Want to ask a question about savings in Pakistan

I have savings in my my Pakistani account about 52000 pound if i go to cash saving route can the immigration officer ask me about tax returns as evidence?

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by geoeng » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:32 am

If they want more evidence, they can ask for it. You do not have to provide such information initially with the application based on the guidance.
I'm just a guy on the Internet who immigrated to the UK. My opinions are based on my experience and interpretation of the immigration rules and should not be considered legal or immigration advice; your mileage may vary.

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by Mfamily » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:18 pm

Thanks geoeng
Want to know about old passports should i scan All pages of my old 2 passports or just need stamped pages and visa pages for scanning? As i got 3 uk visit stamp and 2 Saudia visa stamp on my passports and 3 Dubai entry stamp and one Qatar entry stamp and one Bahrain entry stamp waiting for clarification

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by geoeng » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:55 am

Mfamily wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:18 pm
Thanks geoeng
Want to know about old passports should i scan All pages of my old 2 passports or just need stamped pages and visa pages for scanning? As i got 3 uk visit stamp and 2 Saudia visa stamp on my passports and 3 Dubai entry stamp and one Qatar entry stamp and one Bahrain entry stamp waiting for clarification
From this page (https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/provide-information), you only need to provide "copies of the photo page and any visa or entry stamps in your previous passports" so I would just scan the photo page and any other pages that aren't blank for each old passport.
I'm just a guy on the Internet who immigrated to the UK. My opinions are based on my experience and interpretation of the immigration rules and should not be considered legal or immigration advice; your mileage may vary.

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by Mfamily » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:48 pm

geoeng wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:55 am
Mfamily wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:18 pm
Thanks geoeng
Want to know about old passports should i scan All pages of my old 2 passports or just need stamped pages and visa pages for scanning? As i got 3 uk visit stamp and 2 Saudia visa stamp on my passports and 3 Dubai entry stamp and one Qatar entry stamp and one Bahrain entry stamp waiting for clarification
From this page (https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/provide-information), you only need to provide "copies of the photo page and any visa or entry stamps in your previous passports" so I would just scan the photo page and any other pages that aren't blank for each old passport.
If the original documents required for scanning then should i send my previous original passports to my wife for scanning stamp and visas pages to UK?

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by geoeng » Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:22 am

Mfamily wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:48 pm
If the original documents required for scanning then should i send my previous original passports to my wife for scanning stamp and visas pages to UK?
Yes, that's what I would do.
I'm just a guy on the Internet who immigrated to the UK. My opinions are based on my experience and interpretation of the immigration rules and should not be considered legal or immigration advice; your mileage may vary.

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by Mfamily » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:02 pm

I want to ask that my marriage certificate and rent agreements are bigger than A4 size paper if I'll do them on A4 size then they'll not be original and originals are required for Scanning so what's better thing to do

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by geoeng » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:01 pm

Mfamily wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:02 pm
I want to ask that my marriage certificate and rent agreements are bigger than A4 size paper if I'll do them on A4 size then they'll not be original and originals are required for Scanning so what's better thing to do
I would provide the originals for scanning. Paper size is rather non-standard across the globe and I'd expect they can accommodate that wherever you're going for scanning. Many of my documents were not A4 size and I've never had issues as document size can be reformatted during the scanning process if necessary.
I'm just a guy on the Internet who immigrated to the UK. My opinions are based on my experience and interpretation of the immigration rules and should not be considered legal or immigration advice; your mileage may vary.

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by Korekt » Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:54 pm

Mfamily wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:02 pm
I want to ask that my marriage certificate and rent agreements are bigger than A4 size paper if I'll do them on A4 size
That should be fine.
then they'll not be original and originals are required for Scanning
Not so.

39B (d) of the immigration rules states
Specified documents may be originals or copies.
"Facts are sacred. Opinions are free."

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by geoeng » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:44 am

Korekt wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:54 pm
39B (d) [/url] of the immigration rules states
Specified documents may be originals or copies.
The same rule also states "if the Entry Clearance Officer or Secretary of State has reasonable cause to doubt the genuineness of any document submitted by an applicant which is, or which purports to be, a specified document under these Rules, and having taken reasonable steps to verify the document is unable to verify that it is genuine, the document will be discounted for the purposes of this application." And the guidance document for Appendix FM Section 1.7 Financial Requirements states "any documentary evidence must be the original (not a copy) unless indicated otherwise in Appendix FM-SE."

Whilst copies are allowed per the Immigration Rules, if the person assessing the document has any doubt as to its genuineness, they are just going to ask for the original anyway. Providing copies instead of originals if you have the original just increases the chance your application will take longer to process, or that it could be refused if HO "tries" but is unable to verify the document.
I'm just a guy on the Internet who immigrated to the UK. My opinions are based on my experience and interpretation of the immigration rules and should not be considered legal or immigration advice; your mileage may vary.

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by Korekt » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:37 pm

geoeng wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:44 am
Korekt wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:54 pm
39B (d) [/url] of the immigration rules states
Specified documents may be originals or copies.
And the guidance document for Appendix FM Section 1.7 Financial Requirements states "any documentary evidence must be the original (not a copy) unless indicated otherwise in Appendix FM-SE."
The Rules trumps that guidance (or any IDIs) to the extent of any inconsistency with the Rules.
"Facts are sacred. Opinions are free."

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by geoeng » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:37 am

Korekt wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:37 pm
The Rules trumps that guidance (or any IDIs) to the extent of any inconsistency with the Rules.
The guidance is entirely consistent with the rules in this regard and I don't disagree with what you're saying. The rules give ECOs a wide latitude in their ability to request additional information and conduct verification checks. Providing copies when you have the originals is like paying with pennies, you may be entirely within the rules to do it but it just slows the whole transaction down.
I'm just a guy on the Internet who immigrated to the UK. My opinions are based on my experience and interpretation of the immigration rules and should not be considered legal or immigration advice; your mileage may vary.

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by Mfamily » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:48 am

geoeng wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:37 am
Korekt wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:37 pm
The Rules trumps that guidance (or any IDIs) to the extent of any inconsistency with the Rules.
The guidance is entirely consistent with the rules in this regard and I don't disagree with what you're saying. The rules give ECOs a wide latitude in their ability to request additional information and conduct verification checks. Providing copies when you have the originals is like paying with pennies, you may be entirely within the rules to do it but it just slows the whole transaction down.
Thanks geoeng and korect
If i use option 4 for documents submission then it's written in their website that

All pages should be in A4 Size Only.
Do NOT post original documents, only visible coloured photocopies of the originals must to be posted.

I think in this situation i need to send them photocopies and they will scan for me photocopies and send me all my documents photocopies back to me. In this situation they will scan photocopies of original documents and if my wife go for scanning then why she needs original for scanning

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by geoeng » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:29 am

Mfamily wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:48 am
I think in this situation i need to send them photocopies and they will scan for me photocopies and send me all my documents photocopies back to me. In this situation they will scan photocopies of original documents and if my wife go for scanning then why she needs original for scanning
Follow whatever instructions VFS Global has, clearly in this case they want to scan copies. As has been noted, copies are acceptable as per the rules. If the Entry Clearance Officer has any doubts about a document, they have to try and verify it and will ask for the original if necessary.
I'm just a guy on the Internet who immigrated to the UK. My opinions are based on my experience and interpretation of the immigration rules and should not be considered legal or immigration advice; your mileage may vary.

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by Mfamily » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:55 am

I'm using govt.uk website for my spouse visa application
Do i need to fill appendix 2 form seperately?
Any one who applied recently without appendix 2 form and
succeeded in his application??

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by Mfamily » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:38 pm

I'm filling my application form from govt.uk and applying through all cash saving route
Can someone clear me that I'm filling form correctly below are my filled question on application form

Finance
Does Mfamily currently receive any of these benefits?
No, my partner does not receive any of these benefits
Is Mfamily currently sponsoring any additional children?
No
The Financial Requirement threshold which has been calculated£ 18,600.00
Will you be able to prove that the financial requirement is met?
Yes
Which types of income will you rely on to meet the financial requirement?
Cash savings
Savings
Finance
Add cash savings in the name of and solely in the control of:

Thanks

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by geoeng » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:50 pm

Sounds right.
I'm just a guy on the Internet who immigrated to the UK. My opinions are based on my experience and interpretation of the immigration rules and should not be considered legal or immigration advice; your mileage may vary.

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by Mfamily » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:16 pm

But when i complete financial page by clicking on cash savings route then in the end of this one question they ask i don't know why they ask this question

''Does(my partner my sponser) have a confirmed offer of employment in the UK starting within 3 months of their return?''

And also i didn't see anywhere in the form category D as i know category D is cash savings

Thanks geoeng need explanation

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Re: Cash saving route

Post by geoeng » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:10 pm

Mfamily wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:16 pm
But when i complete financial page by clicking on cash savings route then in the end of this one question they ask i don't know why they ask this question

''Does(my partner my sponser) have a confirmed offer of employment in the UK starting within 3 months of their return?''

And also i didn't see anywhere in the form category D as i know category D is cash savings

Thanks geoeng need explanation
Keep in mind we can't access the form and don't know what answers you have previously given, so might not be able to provide an explanation. If you answered anywhere on the form that your sponsor was employed, it may think you are trying to include employment income either from the UK or overseas as employment income can be combined with cash savings to meet the financial requirement. If this is the case, I suspect you could either answer the questions or just say your sponsor isn't employed; saying your sponsor isn't employed may make the application easier to fill out and their employment status is irrelevant anyway if you are relying on cash savings alone.
I'm just a guy on the Internet who immigrated to the UK. My opinions are based on my experience and interpretation of the immigration rules and should not be considered legal or immigration advice; your mileage may vary.

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