eea2 application

Love-Without-Borders wrote:Okey, this is getting more and more interesting.
As I read in your posted messages mimiki, lapkapups and copper:
- Copper applied in October 2007
- Lapkapups in November 2007
- Mimiki in November 2007
- I applied in December 2007.

The HO now says to all of us that the applications are decided, but the paperwork hasn't been done yet and/or they need to send the docs back.
Doesn't this sound a little bit strange to you guys? On their website they say that they are still processing October. And even if they don't update their website regularly the October - Nov - December difference?

Copper you wrote that your one was decided on 13 May. You posted on 28 May! How long does it take to sort the paperwork and send the docs if they decided already.

I think they are just trying to make us happy for the moment by saying it has been decided already. We will wait and see. Please let know when you get your docs back or any other news. We should keep track of this.

I have long since stopped believing their website; since I saw posts here that some people applied in February and have got their docs back already and some people applied last July/August and are still waiting. I think the website is an average guideline but in general they do not start applicatioons strictly according to their submission dates.

Indeed, can you please all update us if anything happens. I do not know what's going on there and why they should be keeping decided applications but I've got almost no patience left.

Actually the decision was made in liverpool, after that all the docs would be sent to croydon to do the paperwork, that might be the reason why it took so long to receive the docs. Stupid arrangement, isnt it?

You are right mimiki. Not long ago I received my Registration Certificate together with my passport. On the envelop the sender was stated as Croydon. There was a letter in the envelop which came from the Liverpool office.

By the way, did the HO tell you guys whether the decission was positive or negative. I forgot to ask, but I am also wondering whether they will tell us or just say wait for it.

Love-Without-Borders wrote:You are right mimiki. Not long ago I received my Registration Certificate together with my passport. On the envelop the sender was stated as Croydon. There was a letter in the envelop which came from the Liverpool office.

By the way, did the HO tell you guys whether the decission was positive or negative. I forgot to ask, but I am also wondering whether they will tell us or just say wait for it.

I don't know anything about the decision.

But when they sent me a letter asking for additional docs this letter came straight from Liverpool. Why would they send a request from Liverpool but the papers back from Croydon???

We now have Solvit involved with my fiance's application, which was 9 Aug 2007. Today Solvit have told us that the HO have said the reason they haven't made a decision is because they are waiting for us to return the Method of Entry questionnaire they sent us in Jan, & so our application is not complete.

This is a blatant lie! We returned the questionnaire & have a letter from the HO dated 22 Feb 08 stating that they received it 10 Jan & that they had all the documents required & our case would be outcomed shortly! In all of the letters & phone calls we have made since we have always said please contact us if we can provide any more info. We have heard nothing! It makes me so angry that they mess with your lives like this, & then just lie when they get caught out!

Hi all,

We are in a different boat, but do have similarities.

We applied for EEA2 in March 2008, received acknowledgement letter 4 weeks later. We sent both our passports in with the application.

Now, we really want our passports back for various important reasons.

We called them 3 weeks ago and were instructed that a reason did not need to be given and to fax a request. A week ago we sent another fax stating 'urgent', but still nothing.

So if we haen't received them back by Monday, I think i will call again. As we really do need our passports back

Any advice would be great.

My God, August 2007?!!! And what is the Method of Entry questionnaire?
It isn't part of the EEA forms. So, where the hell comes this from?

You've send it and they've send you a letter in Februar and you're still waiting... I don't know what the hell is going on.

I called them yesterday and they said the residence card application of my wife was decided already and they needed to sort out the paperwork and then send the docs. It amazes me how the HO works. So, the decission is made in Liverpool, then they send it to Croydon where the paperwork is done?

I am going to give them another 2 weeks to complete the 6 months and then hount them down: make thousands of calls, send them thousands of faxes and letters, contact Solvit etc.!!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Unfortunately in the UK a lot of people just take it how it is!!!
They tax you a lot, no problem...
Rent is high, you can't even think about buying a house, hey it's London.
They increase fuel prices, no problem...
Raise your voice before it is too late!

Hey Shane,

It seems likely that the HomeOffice lost our passports when they forwarded some of the applications made from Croydon to Liverpool due to the high workload...

lapkapups wrote:

Love-Without-Borders wrote:You are right mimiki. Not long ago I received my Registration Certificate together with my passport. On the envelop the sender was stated as Croydon. There was a letter in the envelop which came from the Liverpool office.

By the way, did the HO tell you guys whether the decission was positive or negative. I forgot to ask, but I am also wondering whether they will tell us or just say wait for it.

I don't know anything about the decision.

But when they sent me a letter asking for additional docs this letter came straight from Liverpool. Why would they send a request from Liverpool but the papers back from Croydon???

Because only the Croydon office has the authority to grant the residence card. As we can c, UKBA is trying really hard to scr** everything up!

mimiki wrote:

lapkapups wrote:

Love-Without-Borders wrote:You are right mimiki. Not long ago I received my Registration Certificate together with my passport. On the envelop the sender was stated as Croydon. There was a letter in the envelop which came from the Liverpool office.

By the way, did the HO tell you guys whether the decission was positive or negative. I forgot to ask, but I am also wondering whether they will tell us or just say wait for it.

I don't know anything about the decision.

But when they sent me a letter asking for additional docs this letter came straight from Liverpool. Why would they send a request from Liverpool but the papers back from Croydon???

Because only the Croydon office has the authority to grant the residence card. As we can c, UKBA is trying really hard to scr** everything up!

Then why on Earth send them to Liverpool in the first place? This way they are creating more problems with paper traffic in both directions than helping to sort out the workload!

Ani wrote:We now have Solvit involved with my fiance's application, which was 9 Aug 2007. Today Solvit have told us that the HO have said the reason they haven't made a decision is because they are waiting for us to return the Method of Entry questionnaire they sent us in Jan, & so our application is not complete.

This is a blatant lie! We returned the questionnaire & have a letter from the HO dated 22 Feb 08 stating that they received it 10 Jan & that they had all the documents required & our case would be outcomed shortly! In all of the letters & phone calls we have made since we have always said please contact us if we can provide any more info. We have heard nothing! It makes me so angry that they mess with your lives like this, & then just lie when they get caught out!

What did SOLVIT say when you told them that you've got a letter from HO confirming that they received this questionnaire back in Feb??

To Love-Without-Borders: you sound EXACTLY like me - lots of phone calls, etc... I agree that we should raise our voice against them, but how?

It sounds like in your case they have just been very disorganized. I am glad they have a time limit and that you followed up!

This is also why I think it is useful to call on a regular basis and ask whether anything is outstanding on the application. There is no way to know if they are waiting for something since they will not persistantly try to contact you.

Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:It sounds like in your case they have just been very disorganized. I am glad they have a time limit and that you followed up!

This is also why I think it is useful to call on a regular basis and ask whether anything is outstanding on the application. There is no way to know if they are waiting for something since they will not persistantly try to contact you.

But they don't tell you if they are waiting for something and what they are waiting for! They just say "it's waiting to be considered further" and on the questions if there is anything outstanding, if they need something else, if they sent me a request for further info they just say that have limited info and they can not answer and if I need to know particulars I have to ask them in writing.

Seems they know nothing on the line except giving you the status!

Hi,

Although my application was decided on 13 may 2008,I have not still received my documentation.

Any idea why They do not send my passport back?

What I should do?

thanks

Okey guys, we've got good news and bad news.

The good news is that they have updated their website and currently for residence card applications and some more the applications under consideration are from January.

That means for us guys that they really have decided it already. The thing is that it seems to take them a little bit long with the paperwork, which I really don't understand.

I had them on the phone and they told me too that my application (made in December) was decided.

So, we just wait and see and if it takes too long we'll haunt them down!

I am curious whether they would tell us on the phone if the applications is positive or not. I forgot to ask. I bet they won't.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/euciti ... ropeanlaw/

Love-Without-Borders wrote:Okey guys, we've got good news and bad news.

The good news is that they have updated their website and currently for residence card applications and some more the applications under consideration are from January.

That means for us guys that they really have decided it already. The thing is that it seems to take them a little bit long with the paperwork, which I really don't understand.

I had them on the phone and they told me too that my application (made in December) was decided.

So, we just wait and see and if it takes too long we'll haunt them down!

I am curious whether they would tell us on the phone if the applications is positive or not. I forgot to ask. I bet they won't.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/euciti ... ropeanlaw/

Who did you talk to? Was it Complaints that told you that it was decided or Enquiry Line?

I really wonder why it takes so long to send the papers back?

Love-Without-Borders wrote:The good news is that they have updated their website and currently for residence card applications and some more the applications under consideration are from January.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/euciti ... ropeanlaw/

Indeed, that looks more reasonable. However, I would not be too enthusiastic about it, for a number of reasons:

• it only states that applications from December are now all under consideration
• it does not state how long these considerations may take
• applications from December would be "due" in June, which happens to be around the corner
• even the registration certificate and the FMRS seems to suffer from this long delay now

So overall they just did what they always do: pretend that they are within the law. But as the cases here have shown time and time again, this is not really the case. Overall things are certainly getting worse, and not better.

Tom

I tried the enquiry line, but it takes so long to get through I mean I was waiting for almost 7 minutes and still nothing. So, then I called the North-West HO complaints department. The woman there told me that the application for the res. card for my wife was decided already and that it had been send to Croydon. So, today I called the Croydon complaint department which wasn't very helpful and they said they hadn't received it yet.

I don't know. The general enquire line doesn't tell you anything else than that it is under consideration. Looking at their website it has been decided, we just need to wait then for the docs.

You are off course right Tom, it says "All applications received prior to the date below (which is January in my case) are now under consideration".

Love-Without-Borders wrote:I tried the enquiry line, but it takes so long to get through I mean I was waiting for almost 7 minutes and still nothing. So, then I called the North-West HO complaints department. The woman there told me that the application for the res. card for my wife was decided already and that it had been send to Croydon. So, today I called the Croydon complaint department which wasn't very helpful and they said they hadn't received it yet.

I don't know. The general enquire line doesn't tell you anything else than that it is under consideration. Looking at their website it has been decided, we just need to wait then for the docs.

It's true, the enquiry line just says "it's under consideration" and to all the other questions it is just "we don't have this info, blah-blah". So I don't know whom to believe. But if they sent them to Croydon it won't be very quick. My letter took a week to reach Liverpool from the Croydon branch and I guess the reverse process will not take less. Not speaking about how long the paperwork in Croydon might take afterwards.

Facing the weekend when nothing will be done Fancy that HO made me hate weekends...

Hey guys,

Going by the updates and your experience with the HO, it's safe to say that you are almost home and dry. There is no reason to think that your applications have been refused unless there is serious reasons.

My application was received by the HO on the 30th of Jan. '08 so I guess I have about 1 month+ to wait...

Please update this forum with the good news once you get it! I'll do the same

Cheers

I can't believe that we or somebody else can't do anything about it.
I don't believe I will get the residence card (I applied in December) at time while some of you guys applied in October, November and are still waiting!

If the six months are up (which is in about two weeks or so) I am going to haunt them down and do whatever is needed. Until then, I really really hope that for once JUST FOR ONCE the weather forecast is right about a sunny weekend and that they won't change the forecast for the weekend into rain tonight! Boy o boy, I really don't thrust the weatherforecast anymore. That happens when you as a human try to predict the weather.
YOU CAN'T...

Love-Without-Borders wrote:I can't believe that we or somebody else can't do anything about it.
I don't believe I will get the residence card (I applied in December) at time while some of you guys applied in October, November and are still waiting!

If the six months are up (which is in about two weeks or so) I am going to haunt them down and do whatever is needed. Until then, I really really hope that for once JUST FOR ONCE the weather forecast is right about a sunny weekend and that they won't change the forecast for the weekend into rain tonight! Boy o boy, I really don't thrust the weatherforecast anymore. That happens when you as a human try to predict the weather.
YOU CAN'T...

Agree. You never know with HO

Love-Without-Borders wrote:I can't believe that we or somebody else can't do anything about it.

How long has it been since you submitted the application?
Have you suffered any expenses at all or financial loss because of the delay?

Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:

Love-Without-Borders wrote:I can't believe that we or somebody else can't do anything about it.

How long has it been since you submitted the application?
Have you suffered any expenses at all or financial loss because of the delay?

Hi Directive.

I applied begin December 2007. It has been almost 6 months now.
Some of our friends here at the forum had applied in October / November.
It's not about suffering any expenses or financial loss because of delay.
Its just makes you crazy! SIX MONTHS IS SIX MONTHS If they don't have enough resources to get this done, then we pay a lot of tax for nothing!