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Re: FLR(O) Discretionary Leave waiting times ..??

Post by Seneca » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:37 pm

Zee ali wrote:
Thanx for your useful advise.
kindly explain bit more about your 4th point. Immigration history which i told is 100% true.and nothing false. will that thing help us during our case. If anybody claim asylum and refuse and get kill after return is a serious matter. and still we are afraid to go back as the culprits never got caught. But as we have legal status we don't want to apply asylum.
Zee ali you have told us the first application for your wife was refused because of deception and her second attempt was successful because you guys told them the truth and explain the reasons. Do the same for this application. Telling the truth is the good start but it will not guarantee successful outcome. Your case is a little bit complex it seems to me. You ll be mainly depending on compassionate ground on your FLR application, where as if you are in fear of your lives asylum route will be more appropriate. Another alternative is to apply for PhD course which is most straight way to see you home.

Find a competent lawyer to advise you on what is best application for you and your family. Goodluck.
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Post by verbina » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:46 pm

tinapalak wrote:@shondra sharma congratulation for your childs citizenship. now you are very close.are you going to apply again ?
@verbina congratulation to you ,you really deserve this .enjoy your freedom.

@tinapalak Thank you very much! :) God Bless!
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Post by nilemarques » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:55 pm

[quote="ada4msd"][quote="Seneca"][quote="ada4msd"]
@east579new,
Thanks for your contribution, I stand to be corrected, there are eligibility and suitability requirements, one needs to pass otherwise one fails for refusal. But if flro is considered outside the immigration laws, then I stand a chance. Pardon me, I don't know how to do the link stuff, but if you search "suitability" on UKBA website, it is written there. That is why am confused. Of course I would not put in the bill but they do their checks and can find out themselves . Pls let me know what you think after going through it. Much thanks.[/quote]


On Eligibility and Suitability
There are suitability and eligibility requirements for FLR(O) application, in fact for all application. Go to the UKBA website, click policy and laws. There, they have guidance and policy for all application. It is length document, but you can read some of the information here http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... am-mig.pdf And here: - http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... rules/part 9
For article 8 private and family life the threshold is little bit lower and there is large degree for discretion compared to other application like ILR or British Citizenship.

Eligibility is simple:- Fill correct form, pay correct amount, etc,
Suitability: - one must not have long unspent prison sentence on his name, not be threat to national security, not involved in terrorism home or abroad, one must attended an interview, provide information, signing on when required to do so, not provide false information or documents etc.

Other factors like working while illegal, studying while not allowed, NHS debt , using false name, short term prison sentence all these can be overlooked when the caseworker apply proportionality and fairness test and look at balance of probability if infact it is in the public interest to denied the person a visa. But it is better to be on the safe side and avoid anything negative as rules are tightening every day. So i think lowering your debt below £1000 if you can afford make sense.

If one has debt to NHS, bank or other organisation as long as one hasn’t been asked specifically in the form or by letter to do so no need to mention it. On the application form it is your opportunity to put your best foot forward. So one should concentrate on character, conduct, association, education, strength of connection with UK, time spent in UK, Ties (socially, culturally and family), in fact anything positive which might help the case.

When asked about other things which might be seems negative one should come clean, because they (UKBA) might already know the truth or are very likely to find the truth soon or later. Providing false information or refusing to comply is just digging bigger hole and save no purpose imvho.[/quote]


Thankyou Honourable forum Membrs for all your honest contributions, I apprecite. apologies for responding late, trying to get relevant documents for my appeal and application. Went to se my GP for a confirmtion letter that i do bring my son to the surgery for immunisations and check. He refused saying that they do not get involved in cases like this. I was disappointed, will keep trying. I already have confirmation of his gp registeration, but that is not enough as homeoffice do not believe that my son lives with me, incredible. The boy is just 13 months old and do not have much correspondence.crazy.
For the flro application, will try and bring down the bill (safer grounds) while waiting for the appeal. That is my only negative point and overstaying.

@Goodness&Mercy, thanks, will definitely get in touch for more assistance.
@Seneca thanks a lot for the link and your advice.
@nilemarques, thanks got the case on 433
@evie233, go for it babe( free application) just include the evidence that you are being supported by the Social Service.

@adetaq welldone mate and congratulations. I am happy for you. Enjoy.[/quote]

@ Ada4msd, your welcome. I don't understand why your GP refused to help you. Instead, contact the practice manager and request your child's medical records. You are entitled to them. Some practises may make you pay. Just inform the practice manager that you are putting in an application with the HO and your child's medical record is required. It may take a couple of days but if you pester them, they may do it quickly!!

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Post by evie233 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:21 pm

Pls could anyone please tell me of I would get a rejection based on the fact that my passport is expired and with HO? I mean as anyone put in an application without a passport? Or has anyone being refused because no passport was included?? A few of my friends got their stay on a card, but I want to be sure ...please anyone?

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Post by verbina » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:53 pm

evie233 wrote:Pls could anyone please tell me of I would get a rejection based on the fact that my passport is expired and with HO? I mean as anyone put in an application without a passport? Or has anyone being refused because no passport was included?? A few of my friends got their stay on a card, but I want to be sure ...please anyone?
Noooo sweetie! You cant get rejected because of your expired passport!! My passport was long expired and lost, so I never submitted it to Home Office, when they decided to grant me my leave to remain, they sent me a Biometric Residence Permit! Thats all :)
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Post by evie233 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:19 pm

verbina wrote:
evie233 wrote:Pls could anyone please tell me of I would get a rejection based on the fact that my passport is expired and with HO? I mean as anyone put in an application without a passport? Or has anyone being refused because no passport was included?? A few of my friends got their stay on a card, but I want to be sure ...please anyone?
Noooo sweetie! You cant get rejected because of your expired passport!! My passport was long expired and lost, so I never submitted it to Home Office, when they decided to grant me my leave to remain, they sent me a Biometric Residence Permit! Thats all :)

Oh thank you!!

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Post by smilingdaisy » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:51 pm

Thank you so much Miss A. Am grateful for your respond. It happens to be like an not welcome on this forum as only Miss A respond to me. God help me am so worried in this life. Am still grateful for Miss A response still as half bread is better than nothing. Thanks a lot forum God will hear our cry amen.

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Post by dapsonlee » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:08 pm

smilingdaisy wrote:Thank you so much Miss A. Am grateful for your respond. It happens to be like an not welcome on this forum as only Miss A respond to me. God help me am so worried in this life. Am still grateful for Miss A response still as half bread is better than nothing. Thanks a lot forum God will hear our cry amen.
Hello smileydaisy,

Please don't feel that way in reference to you being ignored. I want to thank Miss A for giving you the necessary support an like she said, there is nothing God cannot do.

In reality no one can give you a direct advice if you don't give some clue to the background of your case. It is understandable that you wish not to disclose this information but based on the little you posted here it's very difficult to point you in the right direction.

The people on this forum sure has a heart of gold and I know for sure they will help in anyway they can to guide you in the best way they can.

Like tesco's slogan "every little helps" so pls don't feel discouraged or ashamed to post on here. We are all one family trying to embrace a positive and victorious outcome from the home office. :) :)

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Post by satsug » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:17 pm

Hai..my name sathya..new to this forum..but i been watching this longer..iam also waiting for my dlr extension..
My case is totally different..i was on student visa..i brought my wife on 2009..i got uk born twin daughters and they now studying nursery. Last time in 2012 i applied student extension ukba wrongly refused and my appeal was allowed under article8 i was given grant on discretionary basis for only complete my studies..
My leave was expired on jan2014.. I applied extension now nd waiting for decision.. Coz before i complete my studies ukba revoke d licence nd college was closed..so again ukba did wrong in my life i ask extension on this basis..to study again and my twin children never left dis country..i hav one ongoing development issues with on of my baby hope it will cure soon i have added this as well in my application..
I applied on 08/01/2014
Bio done on 23/01/2014
And today i received one letter from ukba that,
they explained my case was issues relate with ECHR,so its complex and we will decide as quickly as possible...
My question is any body got this kind of letter from home office????
And how possiblity for my application success??

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Post by verbina » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:18 pm

Goodness&Mercy wrote:@smillingdaisy
All you can do is trust and believe God works wonder even in the most impossible situation to man.He created the judge and the HO office and his word said the heart of the king is in his hand and he turns it as he wishes.
I have personally attended 4 appeals on behalf of family members whose application I was sponsoring over the years .I could not afford to pay a solicitor so I presented the case myself.I was not privileged to know of the existence of this fantastic forum at the time.
3 of those cases were succesful and the last unsuccesful. On each of the 3 succesful occasion there was a positive indication from the judge and the last one I could tell also the chances was very slim.
God is able ,you have done your best ,just trust God and I pray that very soon you ll share your good news on the forum in Jesus name.

@smilingdaisy

Urrrrm perhaps you missed the post above........
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Post by smilingdaisy » Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:27 am

Thank you so much everyone. Goodnessand mercy,Dapsonlee,Verbina am so sorry for my attitude.
Am full of frustration, what can I do,am tired of this issue of a UKBA in my life.

I wish I could disclose my story here but am so scared to even mention it, am not oversatyer but the basis of which I apply is why am scared, it is not bad o just that people are saying UKBA monitoring everyone even on facebook because of that I close my facebook so that they will not refuse me still they refuse and now appeal and waiting decision.

I apply on basis on article 8 and 3 and also compassionate ground. The judge keep asking my barrister on that day if they want him to listen to case on article 3 or 8. They say article 3 and then as they are talking along she started saying maybe article 8 as well but judge now said but you know article 8 is now changing. Infact I dont understand one word of what they are saying.Home office guy even saying to my barrister that they should have pre-hearing before judge come but I dont understand that woman she just kept chatting with the home office guy maybe the guy want to withdraw the case so now only God can help me to touch the judge. Becuase the guy said he withdraw the other case and my bundle is very good but the lady just chatting like excited kid.

Am tired o. Sorry for my long story dont know how to type well.

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Post by dapsonlee » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:10 am

smilingdaisy wrote:Thank you so much everyone. Goodnessand mercy,Dapsonlee,Verbina am so sorry for my attitude.
Am full of frustration, what can I do,am tired of this issue of a UKBA in my life.

I wish I could disclose my story here but am so scared to even mention it, am not oversatyer but the basis of which I apply is why am scared, it is not bad o just that people are saying UKBA monitoring everyone even on facebook because of that I close my facebook so that they will not refuse me still they refuse and now appeal and waiting decision.

I apply on basis on article 8 and 3 and also compassionate ground. The judge keep asking my barrister on that day if they want him to listen to case on article 3 or 8. They say article 3 and then as they are talking along she started saying maybe article 8 as well but judge now said but you know article 8 is now changing. Infact I dont understand one word of what they are saying.Home office guy even saying to my barrister that they should have pre-hearing before judge come but I dont understand that woman she just kept chatting with the home office guy maybe the guy want to withdraw the case so now only God can help me to touch the judge. Becuase the guy said he withdraw the other case and my bundle is very good but the lady just chatting like excited kid.

Am tired o. Sorry for my long story dont know how to type well.

No need to apologise smilingdaisy it's totally understandable dear. I totally believe that if the UKBA representative withdrew the application, this can sometimes be deemed a good sign that you will be granted.

Like Goodness&Mercy explained. The judge is just a vessel that God is using and there is nothing absolutely God cannot do. You have done you best dear let God take it from here. :)

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Post by majojo » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:27 am

Hi guys quick one please has any one applead
Based on a refusal of the new 18600 rules amd has been to court for a hearing? If he's please kindly tell me
The experience and what happened and how long it took to get your passport and visa of the judge approved your visa

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Post by smilingdaisy » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:05 pm

Thanks Dapsonlee. Am grateful. The home office rep withdraw one of the three cases he had so in my wishful thinking I thought he would have withdrawn mine as well if he receive my bundle earlier. But do you think it a good thing my dependant partner was not sighted by the jydge? She got the right of appeal as well and even prepared a witness statement but judge simply adopted her witness statement without seeing her. Any way you all have said it all, God created the judge and he will touch the heart of the judge,amen. Thanks so much :lol:

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Post by debs1999 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:50 pm

Hi guys I have the joy to tell u all that I have been granted. The Lord that I serve never leaves not forsake his own people. Just put all your trust in Him and he will never fail. I sent my document on the 21st of December 2013, received on 23rd, acknowledgement letter on 27th, biometric letter printed 11th January done on the 15th of January . Biometric card issued on the 27th. Received on the 29th today. Thanks y'all . Those who are waiting The Lord is your strength and your visas will arrive safely. Just take a leap of faith with God. "Prayer of if goes a long way" just tell God if u do this for me I will do this for you. Then u will see he will do it. And don't make a promise u can't keep.

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Post by Goodness&Mercy » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:00 pm

@smillingdaisy:
Just to encourage you with the promise
of The Lord,
"You will keep him in perfect peace
Whose mind is stayed on you,
Because he trusts in you"isa 26:3. Here is an anti frustration pill,take it swallow it and let the peace of God be upon u and your house as you await a favorable decision.The promiser is faithful and the promise is true
Stay blessed

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Post by dapsonlee » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:23 pm

smilingdaisy wrote:Thanks Dapsonlee. Am grateful. The home office rep withdraw one of the three cases he had so in my wishful thinking I thought he would have withdrawn mine as well if he receive my bundle earlier. But do you think it a good thing my dependant partner was not sighted by the jydge? She got the right of appeal as well and even prepared a witness statement but judge simply adopted her witness statement without seeing her. Any way you all have said it all, God created the judge and he will touch the heart of the judge,amen. Thanks so much :lol:
Amen o. Well from what I have read so far it seem like you are the main applicant so if yours was withdrawn I believe all will be concluded under yours (my opinion which could be wrong) and the judge will take it from there since it's all for one, one for all (family). It is well. So don't panic. God's time table is not ours with faith I believe the appeal will be ruled in your favour.
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Post by dapsonlee » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:28 pm

debs1999 wrote:Hi guys I have the joy to tell u all that I have been granted. The Lord that I serve never leaves not forsake his own people. Just put all your trust in Him and he will never fail. I sent my document on the 21st of December 2013, received on 23rd, acknowledgement letter on 27th, biometric letter printed 11th January done on the 15th of January . Biometric card issued on the 27th. Received on the 29th today. Thanks y'all . Those who are waiting The Lord is your strength and your visas will arrive safely. Just take a leap of faith with God. "Prayer of if goes a long way" just tell God if u do this for me I will do this for you. Then u will see he will do it. And don't make a promise u can't keep.
A big hearty congratulations to you debs1999. The Lord who has done yours will definitely conclude our cases in Jesus name. I must say that was some supersonic speedy result. Congratulations once again.

Pls would you be kind enough to share your victorious journey story so others like us may benefit from it? Thank you :)

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Post by smilingdaisy » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:33 am

Thank you so much Goodnessandmercy, the Lord will never forsake you. I am very grateful for your support.
You have made me feel much better,am grateful the lord will bless you abundantly.

Dapsonlee what can I say? thank you so much am grateful for your kind words, the Lord will fulfill every desire of your heart and you will never labour in vain. Thank you too Miss A, am grateful for all your support by the grace of the living God who never forsakes his own, we will emerge victorious, amen.

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Post by verbina » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:23 pm

debs1999 wrote:Hi guys I have the joy to tell u all that I have been granted. The Lord that I serve never leaves not forsake his own people. Just put all your trust in Him and he will never fail. I sent my document on the 21st of December 2013, received on 23rd, acknowledgement letter on 27th, biometric letter printed 11th January done on the 15th of January . Biometric card issued on the 27th. Received on the 29th today. Thanks y'all . Those who are waiting Thtions e Lord is your strength and your visas will arrive safely. Just take a leap of faith with God. "Prayer of if goes a long way" just tell God if u do this for me I will do this for you. Then u will see he will do it. And don't make a promise u can't keep.

@debs1999 Congratulations hun!! Well done!!! Stay blessed!!!
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Post by Shondra Sharma » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:06 pm

@debs1999 congratulation!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by nilemarques » Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:48 am

Congrats @Debs1999. Indeed The Lord has shone his light on you and sure he will continue to do so for the many others on this forum.

Would you be kind enough to share with is your journey. I'm sure it might help one or two of us.

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Post by debs1999 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:41 am

Thanks all and God bless. I was wondering if my partner can apply as my dependant. He is an overstayer due to a fraudulent solicitor. He's not the father of my child. Can he apply as my dependant ? And which form will he use and what will he tick on d form. I applied with form FLR(fp). Thanks

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Post by debs1999 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:18 am

Hi guys, came to the country in 2009 as a student. Finished my degree in 2011 and a fraudulent solicitor was introduced and he duped me Of 3k pounds. But in all he was handed over to the police. Had my baby in August 2013, her dad had indefinite leave so he applied for british passport for her. And then applied for leave as a parent as my child is living with me and not her dad. Her dad has not been in touch with her for over 5 months now. So dats wat I wrote in my application and I was granted on the 10 years route . Y'all re free to ask me anything and will answer. I filled the form flr(fp)

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Post by njyildum1 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:37 pm

Hi Debs1999.

Thanks for your post. I am glad to know you have been successful with your application.

When did you apply for your discretionary leave and how long did it take to hear from UKBA?

Were you at anytime in the country illegally? How long were you illegal or without a visa?

What evidence did you submit for your application? Do you work? Did you have to supply any evidence to show you could maintain and accomodate yourself?

In regards to your partners application it will be difficult for him to be granted leave under flr (fp) as he is not a parent of a British child except you can prove your child has been adopted by him. It is not enough to just be someone looking after the child together with you.

If the real dad of your child doesn't care about the child then you can go ahead with adoption process to help your current partner get his stay in the country.

How long has your partner been illegal for? What visa did he come into the country with?

Thanks.

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