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Home Office document - visa codes

Post by bvv » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:42 pm

Hello forum members

I will be thankful if you can give your opinion on a general question.

I am a British Citizen.
My fiancee who is a non EU national applied for fiancee visa from abroad and accordingly got a fiancee visa
D - Marriage/CP Standard

I was able to see from the forums that after getting married in UK, she will be able to apply for FLRM from within UK itself as this is a fiancee visa for marriage and not marriage visitor visa.

Is there any home office document available which explains this visa code "D - Marriage/CP Standard" .

The reason I need this is because when she entered UK to get married, the immigration staff at the counter informed her that this visa means that after getting married, she should go back and then apply for Spouse visa.

Hence need clarification with the help of a valid document,

Any help appreciated.

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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by seagul » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:49 pm

Maybe its marriage visitor visa because fiancee visa has following endorsement:
Grant entry clearance
You must grant entry clearance if the applicant:
 meets all the requirements of paragraph 290 of the Immigration Rules, and
 none of the general grounds for refusal in paragraphs 320 to 320(22) apply.
For guidance on the requirements of the rules, see link on left: Entry and extension
requirements.
For more information on general grounds for refusal see related links:
 General grounds for refusal
 Immigration Rules paragraphs 320 to 320(22).
The endorsement is:
D MARRIAGE/CP 6 months and add initial and surname of fiancé(e)/ proposed CP.
You must endorse the valid from date with the date that the applicant intends to travel to the
UK.
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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by CR001 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:19 am

How much did the visa cost? If you paid around £85 then it is a marriage visitor visa and she has to leave after marriage and apply for a spouse visa from home country.

If you paid £1523 then it is a fiance visa and can switch within the UK.
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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by vinny » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:41 am

Apart from the price difference, see also Visa endorsements and conditions: ECB13.
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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by seagul » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:49 am

bvv wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:42 pm
when she entered UK to get married, the immigration staff at the counter informed her that this visa means that after getting married, she should go back and then apply for Spouse visa.
Its definitely a marriage visitor visa
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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by Casa » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:06 am

seagul wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:49 am
bvv wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:42 pm
when she entered UK to get married, the immigration staff at the counter informed her that this visa means that after getting married, she should go back and then apply for Spouse visa.
Its definitely a marriage visitor visa
Or it may be an error on the code issued (depending on how much the OP paid) :idea:
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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by seagul » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:09 am

Casa wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:06 am
seagul wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:49 am
bvv wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:42 pm
when she entered UK to get married, the immigration staff at the counter informed her that this visa means that after getting married, she should go back and then apply for Spouse visa.
Its definitely a marriage visitor visa
Or it may be an error on the code issued (depending on how much the OP paid) :idea:
But why the op was advised by immigration staff to return back home after marriage to apply spouse visa?
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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by Casa » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:15 am

seagul wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:09 am
Casa wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:06 am
seagul wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:49 am
bvv wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:42 pm
when she entered UK to get married, the immigration staff at the counter informed her that this visa means that after getting married, she should go back and then apply for Spouse visa.
Its definitely a marriage visitor visa
Or it may be an error on the code issued (depending on how much the OP paid) :idea:
But why the op was advised by immigration staff to return back home after marriage to apply spouse visa?
I'm referring to the possibility that the wrong entry code was issued by the ECO which will then be on the IO's system or they may have simply assumed that the code was correct and advised accordingly.

The OP needs first to clarify how much they paid for the visa. :!:
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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by geoeng » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:01 am

From the link vinny posted and the equivalent (though archived) guidance document for a marriage visitor visa at https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... .0_EXT.pdf, the endorsement for a marriage visitor visa would have the word "VISIT" in it. I suspect the immigration staff giving advice were either not really paying attention to the codes or are unfamiliar with the rights of all visa categories, but information on the fee paid would definitely support or refute this.
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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by bvv » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:53 am

[quote=CR001 post_id=1828210 time=1568956740 user_id=70994]
How much did the visa cost? If you paid around £85 then it is a marriage visitor visa and she has to leave after marriage and apply for a spouse visa from home country.

If you paid £1523 then it is a fiance visa and can switch within the UK.
[/quote

Paid 2830 dollars, so that is around 2260 pounds inclusive of premium service.

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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by bvv » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:58 am

seagul wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:49 am
bvv wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:42 pm
when she entered UK to get married, the immigration staff at the counter informed her that this visa means that after getting married, she should go back and then apply for Spouse visa.
Its definitely a marriage visitor visa


Visit Visa will have mention of the word VISIT MARRIAGE.

As long as there is a home office document that explains the difference between the two visa stamps...things can be cleared to the immigration officer.From different forums, those who have got the same visa stamp as mine has applied from within UK.I just need a valid home office document to prove this irrespective of the result.

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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by bvv » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:01 pm

geoeng wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:01 am
From the link vinny posted and the equivalent (though archived) guidance document for a marriage visitor visa at https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... .0_EXT.pdf, the endorsement for a marriage visitor visa would have the word "VISIT" in it. I suspect the immigration staff giving advice were either not really paying attention to the codes or are unfamiliar with the rights of all visa categories, but information on the fee paid would definitely support or refute this.


Yes you are correct.I just need a similar document with respect to D Marriage.I have seen one, I will post it here in the evening.

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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by bvv » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:02 pm

seagul wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:49 pm
Maybe its marriage visitor visa because fiancee visa has following endorsement:
Grant entry clearance
You must grant entry clearance if the applicant:
 meets all the requirements of paragraph 290 of the Immigration Rules, and
 none of the general grounds for refusal in paragraphs 320 to 320(22) apply.
For guidance on the requirements of the rules, see link on left: Entry and extension
requirements.
For more information on general grounds for refusal see related links:
 General grounds for refusal
 Immigration Rules paragraphs 320 to 320(22).
The endorsement is:
D MARRIAGE/CP 6 months and add initial and surname of fiancé(e)/ proposed CP.
You must endorse the valid from date with the date that the applicant intends to travel to the
UK.

Yes thats what i have

D Marriage/CP

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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by seagul » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:38 pm

bvv wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:02 pm
seagul wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:49 pm
Maybe its marriage visitor visa because fiancee visa has following endorsement:
Grant entry clearance
You must grant entry clearance if the applicant:
 meets all the requirements of paragraph 290 of the Immigration Rules, and
 none of the general grounds for refusal in paragraphs 320 to 320(22) apply.
For guidance on the requirements of the rules, see link on left: Entry and extension
requirements.
For more information on general grounds for refusal see related links:
 General grounds for refusal
 Immigration Rules paragraphs 320 to 320(22).
The endorsement is:
D MARRIAGE/CP 6 months and add initial and surname of fiancé(e)/ proposed CP.
You must endorse the valid from date with the date that the applicant intends to travel to the
UK.

Yes thats what i have

D Marriage/CP
Also check that what does it saying on accompanying letter (decision letter)
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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by bvv » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:13 am

seagul wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:38 pm
bvv wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:02 pm
seagul wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:49 pm
Maybe its marriage visitor visa because fiancee visa has following endorsement:
Grant entry clearance
You must grant entry clearance if the applicant:
 meets all the requirements of paragraph 290 of the Immigration Rules, and
 none of the general grounds for refusal in paragraphs 320 to 320(22) apply.
For guidance on the requirements of the rules, see link on left: Entry and extension
requirements.
For more information on general grounds for refusal see related links:
 General grounds for refusal
 Immigration Rules paragraphs 320 to 320(22).
The endorsement is:
D MARRIAGE/CP 6 months and add initial and surname of fiancé(e)/ proposed CP.
You must endorse the valid from date with the date that the applicant intends to travel to the
UK.

Yes thats what i have

D Marriage/CP
Also check that what does it saying on accompanying letter (decision letter)

Thank you Seagul. Did not receive any accompanying letter.

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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by bvv » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:26 am

bvv wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:13 am
seagul wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:38 pm
bvv wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:02 pm
seagul wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:49 pm
Maybe its marriage visitor visa because fiancee visa has following endorsement:


Yes thats what i have

D Marriage/CP
Also check that what does it saying on accompanying letter (decision letter)

Thank you Seagul. Did not receive any accompanying letter.

There was no accompanying letter.

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Re: Home Office document - visa codes

Post by seagul » Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:43 pm

bvv wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:26 am
bvv wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:13 am
seagul wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:38 pm
bvv wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:02 pm



Yes thats what i have

D Marriage/CP
Also check that what does it saying on accompanying letter (decision letter)

Thank you Seagul. Did not receive any accompanying letter.

There was no accompanying letter.
Its very strange because decision letter is either issued before collecting or while collecting the passport which clearly indicate the visa's terms & conditions.
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