ILR for baby born in India

dsa007 · Post by **dsa007** » Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:44 am

Thanks Dear CR001,

"Apply from outside the UK
You’ll need to prepare information and documents to provide with your application.

Apply separately
Which form you need to fill in depends on whether your parent has leave to enter or remain in the UK on a 5 or 10-year route to settlement as the partner of:

a British or Irish citizen
a person with indefinite leave to remain
a person settled in the UK - for example, they have indefinite leave to remain, settled status or proof of permanent residence
a person from the EU, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein who has pre-settled status - they must have started living in the UK before 1 January 2021
a person with a Turkish Businessperson visa or Turkish Worker visa
a person with refugee status or humanitarian protection
If they do, you must fill in the Appendix FM online form.

If they do not, you must fill in both:

the online application form
the Appendix 1 paper form"

The above section in the form , mentions "partner of" and not parent/child that's where it is ambiguous

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Which form you need to fill in depends on whether your parent has leave to enter or remain in the UK on a 5 or 10-year route to settlement as the partner of

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Thanks

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:50 am

If they do not, you must fill in both:

the online application form
the Appendix 1 paper form

dsa007 · Post by **dsa007** » Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:55 am

thanks CR001, you are fab.

cheers.

moris · Post by **moris** » Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:33 am

Hi Dsa007
I have just started filling out the same application, how far have you done

dsa007 · Post by **dsa007** » Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:40 am

can't find time to do it yet may be I will do it later in the evening.

euphoria1947 · Post by **euphoria1947** » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:51 am

hey dsa007 and moris,
I'm also in the same boat. If you have filed can you clarify the following: I've one confusion I posted here

immigration-for-family-members/child-bo ... l#p2020305

If you have are in the final stages of filling the form. There is a section where it says "Additional information need to provide". Here, we are asked to confirm the correct forms to be downloaded like vaf4a forms. There are some options but the confusing ones are below, I've attached the snapshot.

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I had permission to come to UK before 2012, so, I would choose the option 1 that is "granted to be here before 2012". I understand that the vaf4a Appendix 1 is the correct form to download. Though both of us got ILR in Oct 2012

The confusion I've is, as I understand, we don't need to provide financial support if we are applying for ILE to child. So, does it mean that people who are granted permission after 9 July 2012 needs to download vaf4fa Appendix 2 form? But options in the Appendix 2 is for parents who are given "limited leave". Not for parent who have ILR.

could you please, let me know. we can connect if you have some confusion. I posted documents needed in that thread too.

moris · Post by **moris** » Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:26 am

Hi Euphoria1947

Thanks for your message.

I have not completed the form yet, but having a doubt while filling the appendix1 form , as per this we need to give sponsorship undertaking form , so still not sure about it?

euphoria1947 · Post by **euphoria1947** » Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:12 pm

Application form I find is bit confusing.

While filling the application form, I've entered my child name, contact number. These first 3 sections are fine, immediately after those sections, now asking for corresponding address, I've given the address where I'm making an application from, It is all good. But in the next section, it asks the details like "how long you have lived at this address"? and what is the ownership status of your property?

I'm filling this application for children under 18 and the ownership should I fill "I own it"

given that child is only 6months old, what should be the right answer?

Here is the snapshot:

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anyone could throw some light will be good.

AmazonianX · Post by **AmazonianX** » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:31 am

euphoria1947 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:12 pm
Application form I find is bit confusing.

While filling the application form, I've entered my child name, contact number. These first 3 sections are fine, immediately after those sections, now asking for corresponding address, I've given the address where I'm making an application from, It is all good. But in the next section, it asks the details like "how long you have lived at this address"? and what is the ownership status of your property?

I'm filling this application for children under 18 and the ownership should I fill "I own it" given that child is only 6months old, what should be the right answer?

Here is the snapshot:
doubt1.jpg

anyone could throw some light will be good.

Some of the questions are not worded properly and some will outrightly appear not applicable under certain circumstances. Your response is OK and should be easily understood by ECO.

euphoria1947 · Post by **euphoria1947** » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:56 am

Thanks AmazonianX . I agree it is very lazily created form. Most confusing is "Additional information need to provide". The snapshot above in one of the messages. It says,

As part of your application, you must also complete the relevant appendix and provide this as part of your supporting evidence.

download Appendix 1 if you are granted permission to be in the UK before 9th July 2012.

or

download Appendix 2 if you are granted permission to be in the UK on or after 9th July 2012.

Here it is not clear, whether to download Appendix2 or Appendix1 if you are granted permission to enter after 9th July 2012 and granted ILR.
If you download Appendix 2, then it is clear that it is only for spouse whose partner is settled or child of a parent who is on limited leave.

euphoria1947 · Post by **euphoria1947** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:14 am

Hi,

need some immediate guidance, if any of you could clarify it will be great!

Ok I was filling dummy application until now and I've started the application, I've attached the snapshot below. I've circled the option that is best for me in Category 1 but if you closely look under eligibility criteria it confuses a lot.

In category 1, it says if parent is given permission before July 2012 and is either : british or settled ,
In Category 2, it says "if you are joining a parent who is either: british or settled".

I did dummy application choosing both the category and there is no difference in filling the application except the difference is in the appendix we need to fill. Could any one who has filled it know the difference?

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euphoria1947 · Post by **euphoria1947** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:16 pm

Any guidance here?

TODMATT · Post by **TODMATT** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:22 pm

https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/child

Apply at the same time as your parent
Which form you need to fill in depends on whether your parent is applying to enter the UK as the partner of one of the following:

a British or Irish citizen
a person with indefinite leave to remain
a person settled in the UK - for example, they have indefinite leave to remain, settled status or proof of permanent residence
a person from the EU, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein who has pre-settled status - they must have started living in the UK before 1 January 2021
a person with a Turkish Businessperson visa or Turkish Worker visa
a person with refugee status or humanitarian protection
If they are applying as one of these, you must fill in the Appendix FM online form.

If they are not, you must fill in both:

the online application form
the Appendix 1 paper form

Follow this link

https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... 1577696564

Non-British child of a parent who has permission to be in the UK as a partner or spouse of a British citizen or person settled in the UK granted permission under the Rules in place before 9 July 2012

Non-British child of a parent, parents or relative who are British citizens or settled in the UK
( This option which i think falls onto category one where it is required to submit Appendix 1)

Non-British child of a relative who has limited leave in the UK as a refugee or receiving humanitarian protection

Non-British adopted child or child for adoption in the UK of a parent or parents who are British citizens or settled in the UK.

euphoria1947 · Post by **euphoria1947** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:45 pm

Hey TODMATT,

Thanks a lot for confirming.
Yes, I've read that link and was confident that I just have to fill online form and Appendix-1. If you follow the link https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... 1577696564 and start filling, you will reach a page that contains my snapshot. Hence, it confused me.

Again, wordings are very vague. We both parents have ILR and got ILR together long time back, so, only child is applying. Even in this link

https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/child

It is confusing whether Apply at the same time as your parent or Apply separately category applies as the child is the only applicant.

It is sort of clear now. The problem is re-reading these sections

confuses hell lot.

euphoria1947 · Post by **euphoria1947** » Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:51 am

Hey guys,
one more confusing. I've filled and paid the application. I'm now uploading documents to VFS website. In the website as below asking Appendix-2

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Why do VFS is asking for Appendix-2? Any idea? Should I just upload Appendix-1

My application clearly says, settlement for child for Settled parents. Rather than being clear it is more and more confusing as we progress.

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TODMATT · Post by **TODMATT** » Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:09 am

euphoria1947 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:51 am
Hey guys,
one more confusing. I've filled and paid the application. I'm now uploading documents to VFS website. In the website as below asking Appendix-2
vfs_confusion.jpg
Why do VFS is asking for Appendix-2? Any idea? Should I just upload Appendix-1

My application clearly says, settlement for child for Settled parents. Rather than being clear it is more and more confusing as we progress.

image_2021-09-04_094936.png

Upload appendix 1. Appendix 2 doesn’t apply to you in this regard and VFS website is a default option to upload appendix 2 so ignore it but you just upload appendix 1 in your case.

euphoria1947 · Post by **euphoria1947** » Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:33 pm

Thanks TODMATT, yes doing so. Thanks a lot once again for your inputs.

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