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I have Mortage..what documents i nee

Post by Sadsay » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:57 pm

Hi All,

I am planning to apply spouse visa in near future can anybody tell me what documents i need to provide for residance requirment. I have mortgage, do i need to get survey report.

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Re: I have Mortage..what documents i nee

Post by seagul » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:03 pm

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Hi All,

I am planning to apply spouse visa in near future can anybody tell me what documents i need to provide for residance requirment. I have mortgage, do i need to get survey report.
Title deeds, mortgage statement & council tax bill. No survey report would be needed assuming no unrelated adult is living there.
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Re: I have Mortage..what documents i nee

Post by Sadsay » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:09 pm

Thanks for your quick response, just to clarify myself when you say Title deed is that mean HM land revenue regustry. I guess mortgage statment can be obtain from mortgage provider and coucil tax clearly indicate sigle person discount so there is no body else live on property.

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Re: I have Mortage..what documents i nee

Post by seagul » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:11 pm

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Thanks for your quick response, just to clarify myself when you say Title deed is that mean HM land revenue registry
Yes
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Got Engaged while divorce was in processes

Post by Sadsay » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:22 pm

Hi Guru's

It might sound a silly question but i guess every little thing need attention to detail when it come to H.O
My question is i got engage overseas while my divorce was in processes. I did had decree Nisi at the time of my engagement and got engage just six days before decree absolute. Eventhough Engagement have no legall binding or status but i am wooried would it effect my spouse application if mentiom the date of my engagement which is six days before decree absolute.

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Re: Got Engaged while divorce was in processes

Post by seagul » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:02 pm

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but i am wooried would it effect my spouse application if mentiom the date of my engagement which is six days before decree absolute.
No issue provided the date of new wedding would have been after the date of decree of absolute.
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Divorced and getting Married again

Post by Sadsay » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:31 pm

Hi All,

I have been married in Uk and divorced according to English Law now that i have been married again in Pakistan and while having islamic marraige cermoney they asked me if I am divorced or single? I told them divorced but than they ask me for divorce certificate but they were not ready to accept it as marriage was not islamic and they mention on my Nikah as single and now my question is would i be in trouble or should i explain it on my cover letter.

2ndly which form i need to fill online for spoouse visa from pakistan.

3rd can anyone let me know full list of documents required.

Lastly can anyone give me further help in covering letter as i have seen one in top pin posts but just wondering if there is anyother which is more recent.
Thanks in Advance

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by seagul » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:39 pm

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Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:31 pm
I told them divorced but than they ask me for divorce certificate but they were not ready to accept it as marriage was not islamic and they mention on my Nikah as single and now my question is would i be in trouble or should i explain it on my cover letter.
Application will be refused blanketly and covering letter will be futile.
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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by Sadsay » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:58 pm

I guess i have to get it changed than,

Can you please advise on other questions.

Would you suggest any other technical point to be Mindfull as i want to apply before 1st of october as IHS fee is going up.

I got almost everything else ready other than this.

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by seagul » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:16 pm

Sadsay wrote:
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I guess i have to get it changed than,

Can you please advise on other questions.

Would you suggest any other technical point to be Mindfull as i want to apply before 1st of october as IHS fee is going up.

I got almost everything else ready other than this.
The most technical point in your case might be the one which has been addressed earlier, as it could tatter your all plans including your obvious attempt to obliviously apply for the spouse visa to save the IHS fee. Aside this, only apply when you will get all documents in hands as most of the documents wont be considered after the date of application.
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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by Sadsay » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:35 pm

Thanks seagul!!

When you are saying documents won't be consider after the date of application you mean i cant upload them after i submitt my application beacuse my understanding was I can upload the documents till the day off biometrics or do you mean any official marriage document produce after the date of my application won't be accepted.

One more thing as you might have seen in my previous post I got engaged in February and when I look at WhatsApp calls history I can only go back up to July but everyday we have been talking 2 to 3 time do you think call history from July till present is acceptable. I have also asked my Mrs to take a screenshots off his mobile.

I have also been sending money into my Mrs bank account since we got engaged do you think it's a good evidence to attach.

Is document scanning grayscale is acceptable and what is the maximum file size

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by seagul » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:52 pm

Sadsay wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:35 pm
Thanks seagul!!

When you are saying documents won't be consider after the date of application you mean i cant upload them after i submitt my application beacuse my understanding was I can upload the documents till the day off biometrics or do you mean any official marriage document produce after the date of my application won't be accepted.
Yes you can continue to upload the documents until the date of biometrics but these need to have been dated until the date of application. In my view, a corrected marriage certificate dated after the date of application wont affect anything provided being done through the validly legal channels.
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One more thing as you might have seen in my previous post I got engaged in February and when I look at WhatsApp calls history I can only go back up to July but everyday we have been talking 2 to 3 time do you think call history from July till present is acceptable. I have also asked my Mrs to take a screenshots off his mobile.
Yes screenshots can be prepared from either of the partners.
Sadsay wrote:
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I have also been sending money into my Mrs bank account since we got engaged do you think it's a good evidence to attach.
yes
Sadsay wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:35 pm
Is document scanning grayscale is acceptable and what is the maximum file size
yes. 6MB
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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by Sadsay » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:09 pm

Yes you can continue to upload the documents until the date of biometrics but these need to have been dated until the date of application. In my view, a corrected marriage certificate dated after the date of application wont affect anything provided being done through the validly legal channels.
I am thinking to use the whitner on my original Nikah Nama and amen the required field and take it back to our local council office and asked them to reissue the computerized nikah nama with correction and also get new certified copies of English translation. As i am back in uk and filling new Nikah nama and not having my signature on it so as the witnesses as they are hard to get in touch again. Should i produce any additional document for the correction?

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by Sadsay » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:39 am

My other concern is even though i am providing my decree Nisi and decree Absolute to UKVI as a proof that i am not in marriage any more and free to marry why does it is so imported to show on my Nikah Nama that i am divorced in different country

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by seagul » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:49 pm

Sadsay wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:39 am
My other concern is even though i am providing my decree Nisi and decree Absolute to UKVI as a proof that i am not in marriage any more and free to marry why does it is so imported to show on my Nikah Nama that i am divorced in different country
Because it would be a gainsaid over your real marital status which can come under the remit of deception.
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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by Sadsay » Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:09 pm

seagul wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:49 pm
Sadsay wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:39 am
My other concern is even though i am providing my decree Nisi and decree Absolute to UKVI as a proof that i am not in marriage any more and free to marry why does it is so imported to show on my Nikah Nama that i am divorced in different country
Because it would be a gainsaid over your real marital status which can come under the remit of deception.
I understand your point but what I can't digest is even though while filling up the form you give them all the details about your ex wife and you also put your your decree absolute with your application how come they will be so cruel to put the deception on you has anyone one received refusal or deception on this point in the past or everyone else been able to manage this problem if so can you guys please advise me so I can be on right track

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by seagul » Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:34 pm

Sadsay wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:09 pm
seagul wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:49 pm
Sadsay wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:39 am
My other concern is even though i am providing my decree Nisi and decree Absolute to UKVI as a proof that i am not in marriage any more and free to marry why does it is so imported to show on my Nikah Nama that i am divorced in different country
Because it would be a gainsaid over your real marital status which can come under the remit of deception.
I understand your point but what I can't digest is even though while filling up the form you give them all the details about your ex wife and you also put your your decree absolute with your application how come they will be so cruel to put the deception on you has anyone one received refusal or deception on this point in the past or everyone else been able to manage this problem if so can you guys please advise me so I can be on right track
Well there are several ideologies including the self indulgent hypothesis which despite being reasoned on few occasions are repudiated most of the times by UKVI caseworker who is chained up with the immigration rules. Moreover, when someone applies then it is like a test as how truthful he is in providing the correct information & the supporting documents. So, if the supplied document is contradicting with other documents or UKVI's own record then that is the point when tribulation starts emanating. Aside this, I hope your new partner is aware about your previous relationship as it can be asked/enquired from her unexpectedly at any point 8)
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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by Sadsay » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:18 am

seagul wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:34 pm
Sadsay wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:09 pm
seagul wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:49 pm
Sadsay wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:39 am
My other concern is even though i am providing my decree Nisi and decree Absolute to UKVI as a proof that i am not in marriage any more and free to marry why does it is so imported to show on my Nikah Nama that i am divorced in different country
Because it would be a gainsaid over your real marital status which can come under the remit of deception.
I understand your point but what I can't digest is even though while filling up the form you give them all the details about your ex wife and you also put your your decree absolute with your application how come they will be so cruel to put the deception on you has anyone one received refusal or deception on this point in the past or everyone else been able to manage this problem if so can you guys please advise me so I can be on right track
Well there are several ideologies including the self indulgent hypothesis which despite being reasoned on few occasions are repudiated most of the times by UKVI caseworker who is chained up with the immigration rules. Moreover, when someone applies then it is like a test as how truthful he is in providing the correct information & the supporting documents. So, if the supplied document is contradicting with other documents or UKVI's own record then that is the point when tribulation starts emanating. Aside this, I hope your new partner is aware about your previous relationship as it can be asked/enquired from her unexpectedly at any point 8)
Yes she is fully aware of the situation now that you have mentioned she can be asked about the situation does that mean there will be an interview.

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by AmazonianX » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:13 am

Sadsay wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:18 am
seagul wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:34 pm
Sadsay wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:09 pm
seagul wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:49 pm


Because it would be a gainsaid over your real marital status which can come under the remit of deception.
I understand your point but what I can't digest is even though while filling up the form you give them all the details about your ex wife and you also put your your decree absolute with your application how come they will be so cruel to put the deception on you has anyone one received refusal or deception on this point in the past or everyone else been able to manage this problem if so can you guys please advise me so I can be on right track
Well there are several ideologies including the self indulgent hypothesis which despite being reasoned on few occasions are repudiated most of the times by UKVI caseworker who is chained up with the immigration rules. Moreover, when someone applies then it is like a test as how truthful he is in providing the correct information & the supporting documents. So, if the supplied document is contradicting with other documents or UKVI's own record then that is the point when tribulation starts emanating. Aside this, I hope your new partner is aware about your previous relationship as it can be asked/enquired from her unexpectedly at any point 8)
Yes she is fully aware of the situation now that you have mentioned she can be asked about the situation does that mean there will be an interview.
There was a situation of an OP who does not want the wife to be aware of previous marriage and divorce :?:, there MAY be, HO can go to any and all extent to check genuineness of relationship.

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by Sadsay » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:33 am

Thanks seagul and Amazonian for the discussion and hopefully it should benifit someone else i am trying to get marriage certificate amended which is issued by the Government. Do you guys think marriage certificate issued by Goverment of punjab which have urdu and english on it alone should be enough, i mean has it ever been challange? To me it's government document there is nothing fraudulent about it.
Secondly how many pictures do you guys think should be enough.

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by AmazonianX » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:47 am

Sadsay wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:33 am
Thanks seagul and Amazonian for the discussion and hopefully it should benifit someone else i am trying to get marriage certificate amended which is issued by the Government. Do you guys think marriage certificate issued by Goverment of punjab which have urdu and english on it alone should be enough, i mean has it ever been challange? To me it's government document there is nothing fraudulent about it.
Secondly how many pictures do you guys think should be enough.
On first question I have no experience or reference on that, sorry.
If self uploading, no limit to amount of pictures, as many as will strengthen your application. Let them be a well spread representation over the course of the relationship till wedding/marriage. If you can, let them be dated and annotated with location and a brief description of the occasion.

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by seagul » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:19 pm

Sadsay wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:33 am
Thanks seagul and Amazonian for the discussion and hopefully it should benifit someone else i am trying to get marriage certificate amended which is issued by the Government. Do you guys think marriage certificate issued by Goverment of punjab which have urdu and english on it alone should be enough, i mean has it ever been challange? To me it's government document there is nothing fraudulent about it.
If that is the competent authority there then should be fine but the handwritten nikkah nama is most oftenly be required as well. In my view, the amended piece of document (nikkah nama/marriage certificate) which you are trivializing might not so promptly be amendable.
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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by Sadsay » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:38 pm

seagul wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:19 pm
Sadsay wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:33 am
Thanks seagul and Amazonian for the discussion and hopefully it should benifit someone else i am trying to get marriage certificate amended which is issued by the Government. Do you guys think marriage certificate issued by Goverment of punjab which have urdu and english on it alone should be enough, i mean has it ever been challange? To me it's government document there is nothing fraudulent about it.
If that is the competent authority there then should be fine but the handwritten nikkah nama is most oftenly be required as well. In my view, the amended piece of document (nikkah nama/marriage certificate) which you are trivializing might not so promptly be amendable.
I have spoken to the relevant authorities and they have asked my divorce paper which I have provided them and they are happy to issue a new one instead of amending the existing. Hopefully this should get resolved soon anyway lesson learnt I should have been more vigilant on the first spot

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by Sadsay » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:26 pm

Once i apply visa and book the biometrics appointment do i have to carry all the originals or copies to the biometrics enrolment centre.
Or does they ask only for passport

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Re: Divorced and getting Married again

Post by seagul » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:34 pm

Sadsay wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:26 pm
Once i apply visa and book the biometrics appointment do i have to carry all the originals or copies to the biometrics enrolment centre.
Or does they ask only for passport
As a precaution the original documents must be taken to the biometrics enrolment centre (ukvcas/vfs) so that these can easily be rescanned if weren't processed correctly before. But in most cases these aren't are asked except the original passport only.
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