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Channel4

Post by waitwaitwait » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:07 am

Hello everyone.

Dont forget to watch "Dispatches" on channel4 tonight at 8 pm.



Date Docs sent: 08/02/12
Date Ack. Letter received: 20/02/12
Date biometrics booking letter received: 20/03/12 (dated 16/03/12)
Date biometrics enrolled (at Holborn post office): 22/03/12
Date BRP received: 22/10/12 (by my solicitor)
Date Docs received: 19/10/12 (by my solicitor)
Visa type: FLR(M)
From - Tier 4

Visa type: FLR(M)
From - Tier 4

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Post by kokomarine » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:28 pm

I got my visa at last!
The arrival of biometric letter was agonisingly slow (more than 3 months), but it all went through fairly quickly after that. Hope they keep it up.

Date Applied/Docs sent: 27/11/12
Date Received Ack. Letter: 09/12/12
Date Biometrics Appointment: 14/03/13
Date Passport/Docs received: 05/04/13
Result & VISA stamped: Approved
Visa Type : FLR(M) for spouse
Visa From: Tier 1

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Post by Verylucky » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:25 pm

My fiancé got his visa really quickly. Far quicker than the first time we applied (10 months last time). He was an over stayer by 27 days!!!! And at the time had a minor conviction!!!! Here's our timeline
27/12/12 sent off application
4/1/13 acknowledgement letter received and money taken
4/2/13 biometrics taken
28/3/13 documents received
8/4/12 biometrics received

Both applications were for flr(m)

Good luck guys!!!!

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Post by waitwaitwait » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:28 pm

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/disp ... /episode-8


Sorry guys. Seems like the programme has been cancelled.

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Post by LJLASY » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:08 pm

Maliksahb wrote:
LJLASY wrote:
Maliksahb wrote:I have recently sent a complain to UKBA Cheif exective and also my local MP because my application is with UKBA more then 6 months now. I don't know what the hell services they are providing to us.

I think anyone who are being treated like this please speak out now.
I am waiting more than you 10 months and I think to do a complain to UKBA but I will wait until the end of this month

It is very strange 10 months and you are not asking or complaining about your application. It will not take more time rather then your complaining will help to give your application to pay attention.

my solicitor said the time is deferent from one to other
And I have to Waite . She just sand 2 letter for them and no reply.
I have to Waite :cry:
But aim going to send a letter to my MP soon

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Case Completed

Post by tapi98 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:03 am

Received Documents for my wife with approved letters dated 3rd April 2013
Waiting for the Card...

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Post by LJLASY » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:50 pm

Xiaozhu wrote:
LJLASY wrote:
Xiaozhu wrote:Why wait? Get your MP involved as soon as possible.
maybe will take long if I complain :oops:
No, that's not true - complaining will not add any time. I'm worried that they have forgotten about your application or lost it, as it is unusual for it to take so long these days. I really think you need to complain as the people on the phone don't know anything about it.
today I talked to my MP

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Re: Case Completed

Post by LJLASY » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:10 pm

tapi98 wrote:Received Documents for my wife with approved letters dated 3rd April 2013
Waiting for the Card...
when did you send it

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Post by jojo1984 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:50 pm

Hi I was hoping someone here might be able to help.

My partner applied for Unmarried Partner Visa on 6th September 2012. We have just been refused.

I am his sponsor. We have been together for six years and I am an EEA citizen but not UK citizen, and he is a New Zealand citizen.

We were refused on the grounds that I do not prove I am present and settled in the United Kingdom. The letter says I have to show to have been here for a continuous period of 5 years and have provided no evidence that I hold a document that I am a permanent resident in the UK.

The reason I am confused is because I do not know what document I am meant to have to prove this. I have been a student here and worked here.

We have the right to appeal which we will be doing. All advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Inconsistency

Post by melbgirl » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:30 pm

Verylucky wrote:My fiancé got his visa really quickly. Far quicker than the first time we applied (10 months last time). He was an over stayer by 27 days!!!! And at the time had a minor conviction!!!! Here's our timeline
27/12/12 sent off application
4/1/13 acknowledgement letter received and money taken
4/2/13 biometrics taken
28/3/13 documents received
8/4/12 biometrics received

Both applications were for flr(m)

Good luck guys!!!!
You are very lucky. I have never had a conviction, I've never overstayed, yet I was refused due to a couple of pieces of missing paperwork. It shows how inconsistent the UKBA is.

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Post by Choc-Ice » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:50 pm

@melbgirl

You're 100% spot on...I know cases where UKBA grant leave to remain for some individuals and yet refuse people who abide by the rule! Example, a guy I met in my first year of Uni., he didn't bother finish his 1st yr only turned up a few times. The Uni cancelled his visa within months and UKBA tried to enforce removal but couldn't locate him (2 times). He then Submitted an FLR in July and was granted a leave to remain! Yet other people have applied and got refusal for ridiculous reasons.. UKBA is just a disgrace! Not fit for any purpose..I intend to tear them apart in court :oops: :oops:
IMpossible is 2 letters to long!

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Post by saanju9 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:00 am

jojo1984 wrote:Hi I was hoping someone here might be able to help.

My partner applied for Unmarried Partner Visa on 6th September 2012. We have just been refused.

I am his sponsor. We have been together for six years and I am an EEA citizen but not UK citizen, and he is a New Zealand citizen.

We were refused on the grounds that I do not prove I am present and settled in the United Kingdom. The letter says I have to show to have been here for a continuous period of 5 years and have provided no evidence that I hold a document that I am a permanent resident in the UK.

The reason I am confused is because I do not know what document I am meant to have to prove this. I have been a student here and worked here.

We have the right to appeal which we will be doing. All advice would be greatly appreciated.
I think what you have to submit them is various official document that you have been living here for last 5 years
documents from your GP, uni, work, HRMC, council tax, rental agreements, and if your immigration status states that you need to register ureself with a Govt. body (eg. police), then probably those registration docs might help

I am no expert in dependents of Europeans, so this is just what I think that the caseworker is after

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Re: Additional docs

Post by poans » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:53 am

Jeva wrote:Hi all,

I've been following this forum for a while and it helped me a lot - it seems that FLR(M) applications are processed faster now.

I applied for FLR(M) on 20 Feb 2013, did bio test on 15 Mar 2013 and today I received a letter from the Agency asking for some additional documents. The letter itself is dated 26 Mar and they require me to reply before 9th April otherwise my application may be refused.

The thing is I received it only this afternoon (4th April, thursday!) which means that I only have a couple of days for preparing additional documents.

I don't know the reason why their letters take so long to be delivered but it was the same with the biometrics letter - they gave me 15 days to do the test but they'd already taken like 8 days. This is very, very annoying.
My wife also applied in 26th feb and did the bio on the 19th march 2013. We receive letter dated 25th march 2013 but only arrive 08 April for some document and the reply should get to the uk boader force by the 8April 2013.
We posted some documents with letter indicating dated of we got the letter copy of envelope dated 2 April n it was second class stamp.and also request some from my employers which take couple of days

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Post by coochiefoo98 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:09 pm

Hi everyone.

Hope your all good.

I need some information if possible. I have received all my documents back 27th of March 2013 and a letter basically saying I got the flr(m) visa granted. However, several documents are missing that are originals, including my student biometrics permit card.

While my application was processed they asked for further documents to make their decision. I have sent a letter to that address (Lunar house) asking for my documents back on 2nd of April by special delivery. I know they have received it because someone signed it and I tracked it through royal mail tracking service. So far they have not contacted me and I am getting worried because I need my student biometrics for any future visa applications. I also emailed the specific email address for applicants who are requesting their documents back. I attached the documents request form explaining my situation. So far have not heard anything back. Is there anything else I can do to get my documents back?

The second problem is that it has been more than 10 working days and I have not received this biometrics permit card. I have contacted them by email with my details, as the UK Border Agency tells you to. So far have not heard anything from them. Is there anything else I can also do to sort this out?

My last question is although I have not received the flr(m) biometrics card, can I look for work and if I do get one show them the decision letter from the Home Office as proof that I am here legally and start working or am I only allowed to work once I have received the biometrcs permit card?

On Monday I plan to call them up and see if they can help. I haven't called previously because normally those people who answer the phone are not very helpful and do not know much but I will try. I really do not know what else I can do.

Please let me know. Thanks in advance and have a lovely weekend. :)

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Post by waitwaitwait » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:00 pm

coochiefoo98 wrote:Hi everyone.

Hope your all good.

I need some information if possible. I have received all my documents back 27th of March 2013 and a letter basically saying I got the flr(m) visa granted. However, several documents are missing that are originals, including my student biometrics permit card.

While my application was processed they asked for further documents to make their decision. I have sent a letter to that address (Lunar house) asking for my documents back on 2nd of April by special delivery. I know they have received it because someone signed it and I tracked it through royal mail tracking service. So far they have not contacted me and I am getting worried because I need my student biometrics for any future visa applications. I also emailed the specific email address for applicants who are requesting their documents back. I attached the documents request form explaining my situation. So far have not heard anything back. Is there anything else I can do to get my documents back?

The second problem is that it has been more than 10 working days and I have not received this biometrics permit card. I have contacted them by email with my details, as the UK Border Agency tells you to. So far have not heard anything from them. Is there anything else I can also do to sort this out?

My last question is although I have not received the flr(m) biometrics card, can I look for work and if I do get one show them the decision letter from the Home Office as proof that I am here legally and start working or am I only allowed to work once I have received the biometrcs permit card?

On Monday I plan to call them up and see if they can help. I haven't called previously because normally those people who answer the phone are not very helpful and do not know much but I will try. I really do not know what else I can do.

Please let me know. Thanks in advance and have a lovely weekend. :)


Hi there,

Well i can give you some advise and probably the experienced guys on this forum can give you more info on top of that.

First thing, if you switch from one visa category to another or extend a visa, you get a new biometrics card showing the kind of leave you have been granted and the date it expires. You wouldnt get the old biometrics card back. Nobody gets the old BRP back.

Secondly, if you havent received your brp in 10 working days then all you can do is to send them email or letter on the addreses provided on the letter that comes with your documents. So as you have already done that then all you can do is probably wait as you know there are delays so it might be that they will take some time to respond.

Another thing is that BRP is the actual prrof of your entitlement, meaning what kind of leave you have so most of the employers will ask for it as a proof. Just the letter is not sufficient.

About the other missing documents i would say if someone here with a similar experience can probably give you some advise or share their experience.

Good luck, i hope your stuff arrives soon.

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Post by coochiefoo98 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:07 pm

waitwaitwait wrote:
coochiefoo98 wrote:Hi everyone.

Hope your all good.

I need some information if possible. I have received all my documents back 27th of March 2013 and a letter basically saying I got the flr(m) visa granted. However, several documents are missing that are originals, including my student biometrics permit card.

While my application was processed they asked for further documents to make their decision. I have sent a letter to that address (Lunar house) asking for my documents back on 2nd of April by special delivery. I know they have received it because someone signed it and I tracked it through royal mail tracking service. So far they have not contacted me and I am getting worried because I need my student biometrics for any future visa applications. I also emailed the specific email address for applicants who are requesting their documents back. I attached the documents request form explaining my situation. So far have not heard anything back. Is there anything else I can do to get my documents back?

The second problem is that it has been more than 10 working days and I have not received this biometrics permit card. I have contacted them by email with my details, as the UK Border Agency tells you to. So far have not heard anything from them. Is there anything else I can also do to sort this out?

My last question is although I have not received the flr(m) biometrics card, can I look for work and if I do get one show them the decision letter from the Home Office as proof that I am here legally and start working or am I only allowed to work once I have received the biometrcs permit card?

On Monday I plan to call them up and see if they can help. I haven't called previously because normally those people who answer the phone are not very helpful and do not know much but I will try. I really do not know what else I can do.

Please let me know. Thanks in advance and have a lovely weekend. :)


Hi there,

Well i can give you some advise and probably the experienced guys on this forum can give you more info on top of that.

First thing, if you switch from one visa category to another or extend a visa, you get a new biometrics card showing the kind of leave you have been granted and the date it expires. You wouldnt get the old biometrics card back. Nobody gets the old BRP back.

Secondly, if you havent received your brp in 10 working days then all you can do is to send them email or letter on the addreses provided on the letter that comes with your documents. So as you have already done that then all you can do is probably wait as you know there are delays so it might be that they will take some time to respond.

Another thing is that BRP is the actual prrof of your entitlement, meaning what kind of leave you have so most of the employers will ask for it as a proof. Just the letter is not sufficient.

About the other missing documents i would say if someone here with a similar experience can probably give you some advise or share their experience.

Good luck, i hope your stuff arrives soon.
Hi, my application was not from student to flr(m). It was fiance visa to flr(m). I did university in London and that was my student biometrics. I studied abroad for my masters and came back to London. So, I think they should return it because I didn't apply from student visa. Thanks.

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Post by waitwaitwait » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:34 pm

coochiefoo98 wrote:
waitwaitwait wrote:
coochiefoo98 wrote:Hi everyone.

Hope your all good.

I need some information if possible. I have received all my documents back 27th of March 2013 and a letter basically saying I got the flr(m) visa granted. However, several documents are missing that are originals, including my student biometrics permit card.

While my application was processed they asked for further documents to make their decision. I have sent a letter to that address (Lunar house) asking for my documents back on 2nd of April by special delivery. I know they have received it because someone signed it and I tracked it through royal mail tracking service. So far they have not contacted me and I am getting worried because I need my student biometrics for any future visa applications. I also emailed the specific email address for applicants who are requesting their documents back. I attached the documents request form explaining my situation. So far have not heard anything back. Is there anything else I can do to get my documents back?

The second problem is that it has been more than 10 working days and I have not received this biometrics permit card. I have contacted them by email with my details, as the UK Border Agency tells you to. So far have not heard anything from them. Is there anything else I can also do to sort this out?

My last question is although I have not received the flr(m) biometrics card, can I look for work and if I do get one show them the decision letter from the Home Office as proof that I am here legally and start working or am I only allowed to work once I have received the biometrcs permit card?

On Monday I plan to call them up and see if they can help. I haven't called previously because normally those people who answer the phone are not very helpful and do not know much but I will try. I really do not know what else I can do.

Please let me know. Thanks in advance and have a lovely weekend. :)


Hi there,

Well i can give you some advise and probably the experienced guys on this forum can give you more info on top of that.

First thing, if you switch from one visa category to another or extend a visa, you get a new biometrics card showing the kind of leave you have been granted and the date it expires. You wouldnt get the old biometrics card back. Nobody gets the old BRP back.

Secondly, if you havent received your brp in 10 working days then all you can do is to send them email or letter on the addreses provided on the letter that comes with your documents. So as you have already done that then all you can do is probably wait as you know there are delays so it might be that they will take some time to respond.

Another thing is that BRP is the actual prrof of your entitlement, meaning what kind of leave you have so most of the employers will ask for it as a proof. Just the letter is not sufficient.

About the other missing documents i would say if someone here with a similar experience can probably give you some advise or share their experience.

Good luck, i hope your stuff arrives soon.
Hi, my application was not from student to flr(m). It was fiance visa to flr(m). I did university in London and that was my student biometrics. I studied abroad for my masters and came back to London. So, I think they should return it because I didn't apply from student visa. Thanks.
To be honest i dont understand what you are trying to say when you say you did university in london and that was your biometrics. What exactly are you referring to?
No matter what category you switch from, you cant have 2 biometric cards. Only one card showing your entitlement. Im sure other members on this forum will agree with me.

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Post by coochiefoo98 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:21 pm

waitwaitwait wrote:
coochiefoo98 wrote:
waitwaitwait wrote:
coochiefoo98 wrote:Hi everyone.

Hope your all good.

I need some information if possible. I have received all my documents back 27th of March 2013 and a letter basically saying I got the flr(m) visa granted. However, several documents are missing that are originals, including my student biometrics permit card.

While my application was processed they asked for further documents to make their decision. I have sent a letter to that address (Lunar house) asking for my documents back on 2nd of April by special delivery. I know they have received it because someone signed it and I tracked it through royal mail tracking service. So far they have not contacted me and I am getting worried because I need my student biometrics for any future visa applications. I also emailed the specific email address for applicants who are requesting their documents back. I attached the documents request form explaining my situation. So far have not heard anything back. Is there anything else I can do to get my documents back?

The second problem is that it has been more than 10 working days and I have not received this biometrics permit card. I have contacted them by email with my details, as the UK Border Agency tells you to. So far have not heard anything from them. Is there anything else I can also do to sort this out?

My last question is although I have not received the flr(m) biometrics card, can I look for work and if I do get one show them the decision letter from the Home Office as proof that I am here legally and start working or am I only allowed to work once I have received the biometrcs permit card?

On Monday I plan to call them up and see if they can help. I haven't called previously because normally those people who answer the phone are not very helpful and do not know much but I will try. I really do not know what else I can do.

Please let me know. Thanks in advance and have a lovely weekend. :)


Hi there,

Well i can give you some advise and probably the experienced guys on this forum can give you more info on top of that.

First thing, if you switch from one visa category to another or extend a visa, you get a new biometrics card showing the kind of leave you have been granted and the date it expires. You wouldnt get the old biometrics card back. Nobody gets the old BRP back.

Secondly, if you havent received your brp in 10 working days then all you can do is to send them email or letter on the addreses provided on the letter that comes with your documents. So as you have already done that then all you can do is probably wait as you know there are delays so it might be that they will take some time to respond.

Another thing is that BRP is the actual prrof of your entitlement, meaning what kind of leave you have so most of the employers will ask for it as a proof. Just the letter is not sufficient.

About the other missing documents i would say if someone here with a similar experience can probably give you some advise or share their experience.

Good luck, i hope your stuff arrives soon.
Hi, my application was not from student to flr(m). It was fiance visa to flr(m). I did university in London and that was my student biometrics. I studied abroad for my masters and came back to London. So, I think they should return it because I didn't apply from student visa. Thanks.
To be honest i dont understand what you are trying to say when you say you did university in london and that was your biometrics. What exactly are you referring to?
No matter what category you switch from, you cant have 2 biometric cards. Only one card showing your entitlement. Im sure other members on this forum will agree with me.
I was just explaining what visa I was applying from, that's all. I was not aware you can only have one biometric card. Why do they keep it? Its expired, anyways. I assumed they would give it back because when you apply for visas they always ask for your previous biometric cards and visas, for example the ones stamped on the passports that you get depending on the country.

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Post by saanju9 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:17 pm

coochiefoo98 wrote: I was just explaining what visa I was applying from, that's all. I was not aware you can only have one biometric card. Why do they keep it? Its expired, anyways. I assumed they would give it back because when you apply for visas they always ask for your previous biometric cards and visas, for example the ones stamped on the passports that you get depending on the country.
They won't ask you for all you past BRP cards.. but they will ask you for current BRP card..

Don't worry no one will have those previous cards so your not alone in that boat

what are the other original docs your expecting back

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Post by coochiefoo98 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:15 pm

saanju9 wrote:
coochiefoo98 wrote: I was just explaining what visa I was applying from, that's all. I was not aware you can only have one biometric card. Why do they keep it? Its expired, anyways. I assumed they would give it back because when you apply for visas they always ask for your previous biometric cards and visas, for example the ones stamped on the passports that you get depending on the country.
They won't ask you for all you past BRP cards.. but they will ask you for current BRP card..

Don't worry no one will have those previous cards so your not alone in that boat

what are the other original docs your expecting back
They also have my husbands pay slip and his letter from his employer with his working detials. I am more concerned with the pay slip than the letter.

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Got it at last

Post by 9ger4laif » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:02 pm

Been a silent forum follower for a long time,here's my timeline,thank you all and goodluck to those still waiting.


Date Applied/Docs sent:31/10/2012
Date Received Ack. Letter: 05/11/12
VISA EXPIRED 06/11/12
I noticed UKBA unable to take money as money never left my account and after 25 days I sent off a new payment instruction together with a cover note and I completed a new form
13/02/2013-rejection letter dated 21/12/2012 arrived in the post-invalidity for lack of payment.advised to reapply.which I challenged actively
However
Date Biometrics booking letter arrived: 21/03/2013
Date Biometrics Appointment Abbeywood: 22/03/2013
06/04/2013-letter arrived in post requesting for more stuff by 11/04/2013

Date Passport/Docs received from HO:13/04/2013
Result & VISA stamped: Approved
Visa Type : FLR(M) for spouse
Visa From:PBS Dependant

MP was totally useless,didn't respond when I made contact.I did not call HO at all.complaint was email no response till date but I can't be bothered now
Last edited by 9ger4laif on Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:28 pm, edited 3 times in total.

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Post by 9ger4laif » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:08 pm

Been a silent forum follower f

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Post by saanju9 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:57 am

coochiefoo98 wrote: They also have my husbands pay slip and his letter from his employer with his working detials. I am more concerned with the pay slip than the letter.
probably you might have to fill up an online "Return of Docs" request form. call if you have any number given on the approval letter or try to contact the UKBA through phone

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Post by sanny26 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:26 am

May i ask how long does it takes to get a decision after you submit biometric? please.

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Post by coochiefoo98 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:22 pm

Hi everyone.

If possible can you provide me the number to contact UK Border Agency. Thanks, :)

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