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Post by homesweethome » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:40 pm

Hi Guys, This isn't looking good at all. It looks like unless the dependent is entirely dependent on you both financially and physically there is no chance of bringing them over. I consulted an immigration solicitor on behalf of a family friend and they advised that you would also need to show that the dependent cannot get a carer back home.

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Relax immigration rules for elderly dependent relatives

Post by pluto123 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:51 pm

Just to make all affected aware of an e-petition that has been created and could possibly be helpful in raising this matter in the House of Commons.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/36798

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Post by ssharma » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:58 pm

Elderly dependant Visa for my parents (Age 63 and 60) got rejected recently....no reason given. They did through checks and found that the care they need is available in our country for penny's.

There are more chances if parent is a Widowed or have serious illness or disability.

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Post by Viv1000 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:36 pm

I was just going through the application form - is it right that the application fees for a dependant parent is now GBP1,850.....phew.....? and is there a English language requirement even for dependant parents?

Separately, has anyone made a recent application - pls could you share your experiences...

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Post by homesweethome » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:40 pm

Viv1000 wrote:I was just going through the application form - is it right that the application fees for a dependant parent is now GBP1,850.....phew.....? and is there a English language requirement even for dependant parents?

Separately, has anyone made a recent application - pls could you share your experiences...
One of my colleagues has made an application just before the rule changes in July. That fee is correct. They are still waiting for an answer. I'm not sure what the success rate is as I know the criteria is very high.

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Parliamentary inquiry into new family migration rules

Post by pluto123 » Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:45 pm

Hi,

Just wanted to make all affected aware that a Parliamentary inquiry has been launched to explore the impact these new rules are having on family migration including that on elderly dependents.

It would be extremely useful if all affected could share their views on -

http://www.appgmigration.org.uk/family-inquiry

The deadline to make written / on-line submissions is 31st Jan 2013.

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Dependent visa for my parents both alive and together

Post by zamanam » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:31 pm

Hi there,

I want to apply for Dependent visa (outside UK) for my parents both alive and together and over 65 and financially dependent on us. Seems immigration law favors only widowed or single parents…!

Thanks

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Re: Dependent visa for my parents both alive and together

Post by homesweethome » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:37 pm

zamanam wrote:Hi there,

I want to apply for Dependent visa (outside UK) for my parents both alive and together and over 65 and financially dependent on us. Seems immigration law favors only widowed or single parents…!

My brother and I both have ILR/British Nationality. We are well settle, earning £65000+ per annum; I owned a 3 bed property and living alone. My parents does not have anybody particularly to look after them in their country, they used to have another unmarried brother who used to look after them, but now he is moving to China for business.

We send money to them regularly via bank and cash and have records of bank transaction. In this situation is there any possible way that we can apply dependent visa for my parents? Should we apply from outside UK or within UK as they are visiting us in Mar hopefully.

Thanks

Zaman
Hi Zaman, You would need to make the application from outside the UK. You need to show that your parents are unable to do basic tasks such as cooking, dressing themselves etc. Please see link below for further details
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... dependent/

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Post by zamanam » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:33 am

HI Thanks

But they can do basic things in life it just they are on their own and financially dependent on us and that’s why we want them to be here.

Is this same as indefinite leave to enter - - ILT?

Thanks

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Post by homesweethome » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:38 pm

zamanam wrote:HI Thanks

But they can do basic things in life it just they are on their own and financially dependent on us and that’s why we want them to be here.

Is this same as indefinite leave to enter - - ILT?

Thanks
They changed the rules on the 9th of July 2012 to make it harder for elderly parents to settle here. Now you have to prove that they are unable to look after themselves, that the correct care is not available in your home country even if you were to pay for it etc. I would go to see a solicitor. But if they are only financially dependent on you they wil not be able to apply just on that basis.

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Re: Parliamentary inquiry into new family migration rules

Post by km25 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:37 pm

pluto123 wrote:Hi,

Just wanted to make all affected aware that a Parliamentary inquiry has been launched to explore the impact these new rules are having on family migration including that on elderly dependents.

It would be extremely useful if all affected could share their views on -

http://www.appgmigration.org.uk/family-inquiry

The deadline to make written / on-line submissions is 31st Jan 2013.
Thanks Pluto for the link, I have had my say...I hope others fill this form too so something can be done about this..

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Re: Parliamentary inquiry into new family migration rules

Post by Andy83 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:18 pm

km25 wrote:
pluto123 wrote:Hi,

Just wanted to make all affected aware that a Parliamentary inquiry has been launched to explore the impact these new rules are having on family migration including that on elderly dependents.

It would be extremely useful if all affected could share their views on -

http://www.appgmigration.org.uk/family-inquiry

The deadline to make written / on-line submissions is 31st Jan 2013.
Thanks Pluto for the link, I have had my say...I hope others fill this form too so something can be done about this..
anybody know any valid form for parent apply ILR in the Uk?
it's form of SET(F) before last July,but now looks can not find the right one :?: .

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Post by Andy83 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:19 pm

anybody know any valid form for parent apply ILR in the Uk?
it's form of SET(F) before last July,but now looks can not find the right one :?:

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Post by Greenie » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:11 am

Andy83 wrote:anybody know any valid form for parent apply ILR in the Uk?
it's form of SET(F) before last July,but now looks can not find the right one :?:
that's because the application can no longer be made from within the UK.

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Post by homesweethome » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:35 pm

ssharma wrote:Elderly dependant Visa for my parents (Age 63 and 60) got rejected recently....no reason given. They did through checks and found that the care they need is available in our country for penny's.

There are more chances if parent is a Widowed or have serious illness or disability.
Hi Ssharma, Can I ask when you applied. How long did it take to reach the decision? Did they give you appeal rights?

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Post by Andy83 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:18 pm

homesweethome wrote:
ssharma wrote:Elderly dependant Visa for my parents (Age 63 and 60) got rejected recently....no reason given. They did through checks and found that the care they need is available in our country for penny's.

There are more chances if parent is a Widowed or have serious illness or disability.
Hi Ssharma, Can I ask when you applied. How long did it take to reach the decision? Did they give you appeal rights?
O,thanks

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elderly parents settlement info required

Post by mubasher » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:21 pm

Hi.
my mother is 58 and recently widowed . i am a settled person in UK and got my own house .i have one younger brother aged 20 in pak living with my mum but he is in full time studies at uni.my mum already got a 5 years family visit visa. can i apply for her permanent stay ?is there any age restrictions?and what documents do i need?can any body please guide me with the latest immigration changes.

Thanks in advance
mubasher

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Post by deleted_user » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:39 pm

I was listening to the mp3 podcast attached to the family migration post here:
http://www.migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/2 ... next-steps

At one point a lawyer giving evidence said that if elderly dependents failed to obtain visa under the new inhumane rules, they would be ineligible to apply under the family visitor route, leaving them no way to come and visit their family. Can anyone else confirm this?

Also does the reverse rule apply? That if an elderly dependent has been granted a family visitor visa, they can no longer apply and be granted ILR under the new rules.

It is interesting to note that only one successful application has been made for an elderly dependent under the new rules. Again stated in the above linked podcast. Worth listening to if you haven't already.

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Post by william22 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:47 pm

Your status determines which relatives (or future relatives) may be eligible to receive immigration benefits.

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Post by MPH80 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:37 pm

Dimension7 - the reason for what the lawyer said is basically that ...

If you apply for a settlement visa, you are showing you have few ties to your home country and want to move somewhere else.

If you apply for a visitor visa, you are showing you have strong ties and will return home.

So applying for the settlement visa naturally says 'if I apply for a visitor visa - I'm likely to stay' - and you have to provide some pretty strong proof that you're not. Hence why it's regarded as a 'not likely to be successful' situation.

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Visa for my widowed mother

Post by khanz » Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:41 pm

Hi All,

I have ILR visa and have applied for citizenship in February 2013. My mother is widow and 66 years old. She is diabetic and has high blood pressure as well. My all three sisters are married and live with their families. My elder brother who used to live with my mum, has now settled in USA. So, my mum is alone in Pakistan. My wife got ILR in 2012 and I sent her back to Pakistan to take care of my mum and I try to visit them twice a year.

My mum visited me in UK twice (2009 and 2011) on 6 months visit visas. Now I intend to apply dependent visa for her so that she comes here permanently and I can take better care of her once she is here and my wife would also be here to take care of her.

I want to know if there are any chances of getting the dependent visa for her and if yes, then what documents I should attach with the application.

Thanks in advance for your advice and sharing your experience.

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Post by khanz » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:16 pm

I would appreciate if anyone can reply my question in the last post.
Thanks

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Post by deleted_user » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:09 pm

khanz wrote:I would appreciate if anyone can reply my question in the last post.
Thanks
Hi Khanz, if you listen to the mp3 http://www.migrantsrights.org.uk/blog/2 ... next-steps

only one elderly dependent visa has been granted under the new rules. So if you get successful application for your mom, let us know as you would be second!

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Post by khanz » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:50 pm

Hi,

Thanks for the link. One option seems for now, is to apply for family visitors visa for two years as she already has visited UK twice on 6 months visa each time.

Being optimistic, after getting two years multiple visa, we can wait for any relaxation or amendment to be made by the government in the dependent visa category for parents. IF this happens then we can go for dependent visa at some later stage.

Please comment.

Thanks

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Post by deleted_user » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:25 am

khanz wrote:One option seems for now, is to apply for family visitors visa for two years as she already has visited UK twice on 6 months visa each time.
Yes good idea if you can prove she is independent enough to want go back. I'd apply asap for visitor visa because once the Crime & Courts bill is passed family visitors will no longer have appeal rights if visa refused.

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/201 ... ourts.html
khanz wrote:Being optimistic, after getting two years multiple visa, we can wait for any relaxation or amendment to be made by the government in the dependent visa category for parents. IF this happens then we can go for dependent visa at some later stage.
Frankly I am not sure these rules will change. As indicated in the reply to this letter The reply sums up the government attitude.

"Regrettably this is a subject area where the Government is not very interested in listening."

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