Spousal Visa Application - Pakistan

nasxtra wrote:

ukusman wrote:

nasxtra wrote:Application date 1/14/2010

Status Your application is ready for collection; please visit the UK Visa Application Centre where you submitted your visa application to collect the same

status changed today...please make dua that its good news and I will be reunited with my wife and kids

inshallah your decision will be a positive one. please keep us informed.

thanks

Mrs went to collect application the next day......it was granted..thank god

this whole situation taught me a lesson and should be a warning to all those who get the initial visa granted, don't get slack once your partner gets here and be loved up and caught up in married life and the practicalaties of living together...start collecting your evidence for ILR NOW, apply for the ILR on time.

Plan , prepare & execute properly and save yourself and your loved ones the heartache and suffering as well as financial loss. Life has many surprises and you never know whats round the corner don't leave it to the last minute for ILR. Learn from my mistakes and with the advice on this forum, (its there i know trawling through 228 pages of info can get monotonous but the knowledge is there). Seek and ye shall find!

btw i didn't send any photographic evidence of wedding etc and me or kids this time round but having two kids probably covered that sent birth certificates, and kids passport copies, also as partner was living in uk for nearly 4 years the fact that she was still paying council tax, and her uk bank statements helped

I'm going to have a look at the date it was stamped when she gets over here ( mrs & kids landing tonite!!). I think it was a lot quicker than expected

UKBA all is forgiven! (well nearly)

amr2010 wrote:

Zak_K wrote: Well, perhaps it just depends on the mood of the Immigration officer. Obviously they state a 3 month processing time, however my solicitor has said he has had cases back within 10 days. Nevertheless it's sensible to be modest.

Personally, I'll be travelling to Pakistan on Sunday, and hopefully lodge my application for next Wednesday. I'm only going for 3 weeks though, so hopefully my wife will be coming over soon after myself.

Anyways my duas are with you bro, take it easy.

Zak.

My wife went to the application centre in Lahore today, she was in there a total of 4 hours and was exhausted at the end of it!

The folks who processed her application told her "to expect a reply in 25 to 30 days". OK not lightning quick but at least the it's now 25-30 and not the 60 days they were quoting in January. Inshallah thing are better now.

A couple of things I want to share with the group:

If you have presented your application in a file/document holder etc THEY WILL remove all the papers. You are best to secure all the papers together without a folder or removable clip.

The staff WILL try and make you hurry and exit, don't listen to them. My wife had to re-organise her paper work after they messed it up. Tell your wife/husband to take their time - do not rush because they say so. They will not sympathise and don't really care that this is a life-changing issue. However if you stand your ground (be firm but polite) they will let you get on with it.

Make sure you include two document Indexes in the file listing IN ORDER all the paper work in the file. One should be for the sponsors paper work and the other for the applicant. Mark them up clearly e.g. Index of Sponsor Documents.

My wife was told that she had to submit a duplicate of the whole file!!! This was not mentioned anywhere and to be honest I am not sure if it is really required. Create a duplicate of your file, photocopy everything including the photographs (yes really, they asked her to do that!). To make things simple the sponsor should create duplicate of their documents and send the "real" file and the "duplicate". My wife was told the "real" one goes Abu Dabi/Dubai the other to Islamabad.

Take spare passport photos with you.

I'm sure I have forgotten something, if I remember I will update this post.

I hope you find this information helpful, if you do please make dua for us.

Zak_K wrote:Is an index somthing that's required? My solicitor gave me everything I need binded in treasurey tags.

Don't know if it's a requirements but it's very very useful to you and the ECO. You can knock it up at home on Word in about 20 mins so worth doing.

With regards to the finances, theres a question which asks how much money I pay my family, he wrote "£300 per quarter, sent to applicant"

batleykhan wrote:

With regards to the finances, theres a question which asks how much money I pay my family, he wrote "£300 per quarter, sent to applicant"

Question ( 8.7 14) is asking the applicant ( in your case your fiancee,) as to how much you contribute to your family in the UK ( parents etc) towards the bilss /food etc.

It is not asking you how much you give your wife ( as you have stated £300 sent to applicant)

The next question is they are asking her how much you spend on your own living expenses ( buying clothes/ petrol for your car/travelling costs etc).

You add both up together and that is what your contribute towards family and self expenses and what ever is left over, it is counted as savings and that is the amount you should have been putting in your bank account and which will show up on statements.

It is not not normal practice for Pakistanis to send money to their fiancee before they get married. They only send it after they have got married as you become responsible for supporting your wife.

Hope you understand this.

If you dont mind me asking how much did you pay this solicitor for preparing your application.

Thanks

Zak_K wrote: Hi. Thanks for your feedback. Although this has confused me further. I'm applying for my wife by the way, not for my fiance.

My application form looks like this:

8.7.10 What is their total monthly income from all sources >>
of employment or occupation after tax?


£811.00

8.7.14 How much of your sponsor’s total monthly income >>>
is given to their family members and other dependants?

£300 / quarter

8.7.15 H How much does your sponsor spend each month on living costs?

£300.

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OK now I just actually called my solicitor and he said, the amount in questions 8.7.14/15 is not added together. (I told him I spend around £60.00/week).

Yet you've bought it to my attention that the difference between these figures is what they'll see as my monthly savings!

Having said that, is this such a major issue? As in according to the three questions above, even if the figures are deducted, I'm left with just over £400/month, which would satisfy that particular requirement?

amr2010 wrote:

Zak_K wrote: Hi. Thanks for your feedback. Although this has confused me further. I'm applying for my wife by the way, not for my fiance.

My application form looks like this:

8.7.10 What is their total monthly income from all sources >>
of employment or occupation after tax?


£811.00

8.7.14 How much of your sponsor’s total monthly income >>>
is given to their family members and other dependants?

£300 / quarter

8.7.15 H How much does your sponsor spend each month on living costs?

£300.

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OK now I just actually called my solicitor and he said, the amount in questions 8.7.14/15 is not added together. (I told him I spend around £60.00/week).

Yet you've bought it to my attention that the difference between these figures is what they'll see as my monthly savings!

Having said that, is this such a major issue? As in according to the three questions above, even if the figures are deducted, I'm left with just over £400/month, which would satisfy that particular requirement?

I'm a bit concerned for you, your solicitor doesn't seem to understand the question and he should be asking you for real values not making them up. (Where has the £300 quarter come from?)

8.7.14 - Do you give any member of your family (not wife) money? Per month. E.g. supporting a sibling or parent because they cannot work.

8.7.15 - How much do you personally spend each month

It as simple as that.

I am sure the ECO will add the two values together to derive your disposable income. I think your solicitors advice is wrong.

17F4N wrote:Is it me or are UK BA taking the ultimate p155. It has been 8 weeks since I supplied my documents to them and yet had no official news on my wife visa...

Any advise apart from having patience??

batleykhan wrote:

17F4N wrote:Is it me or are UK BA taking the ultimate p155. It has been 8 weeks since I supplied my documents to them and yet had no official news on my wife visa...

Any advise apart from having patience??

Yes have some more patience

RHussain07 wrote:BatleyKhan, Members...

I have some questions before I compile my case and submit my application. I have been through the forum pages and BK’s notorious guide but these q’s still linger on as I'm not getting a clear answer on these....

1. Is it OK to print the VAF4 form off from the Gerrys website and use this? (I read here that we should collect it from the Gerrys VAC and use that...)

Yes and No depends who you believe

2. NADRA card: im not married yet and my wife has her dads name on her ID card. Can I leave this on or should I change it to my name after we get married? We will make passport post marriage (with my name on)

Yes it is ok for the time being to leave her dads name. After marriage you can make anothe one with your (husbands ) name on it

3. Passport: Do I certify EVERY single page of my passport (40 odd pages i think)or just the inside front cover, inside back cover and the pages that have the entry/exit stamps on?


EVERY SINGLE PAGE MUST BE CERTIFIED

4. My birth certificate / NICOP card: is it useful to send attested copies of this or pointless? I guess they show sponsor identity and address so maybe useful

Yes you can send these in- No problem

5. Letters / greeting cards: do members send envelopes and the contents or just the envelopes that show name of sender and recepient? (i hope its not the whole thing!

Yes it proves the letters etc were posted from abroad, whereas if you send it without envelope,for all we know you could have written letter in Pakistan and provided them as part of your application

6. Pre-marriage contact: I have some pre-marriage contact with my fiancée. Would it help to submit this as it is a positive or am i opening doors for the ECO to be picky?) as you know there is no need to send pre-marriage contact but I just think its a strong point of my/any application

No need to send anything of teh sort asa you will just cause more problems in the long term


Thanks, in advance guys.

BatleyKhan - once i get response, I am happy to update your guide to take some time off your hands if you think it would be useful....

You cant add any comments to that post as it is locked - Sorry/

But feel free to pm me and I will update it

R

RHussain07 wrote:BatleyKhan, Members...

I have some questions before I compile my case and submit my application. I have been through the forum pages and BK’s notorious guide but these q’s still linger on as I'm not getting a clear answer on these....

1. Is it OK to print the VAF4 form off from the Gerrys website and use this? (I read here that we should collect it from the Gerrys VAC and use that...)

Yes and No depends who you believe.
OK - has anyone been failed because they used an internet version of the form?

2. NADRA card: im not married yet and my wife has her dads name on her ID card. Can I leave this on or should I change it to my name after we get married? We will make passport post marriage (with my name on)

Yes it is ok for the time being to leave her dads name. After marriage you can make anothe one with your (husbands ) name on it.
OK so handing a NADRA with dads name on it and passport with my name on it is not recommended?

3. Passport: Do I certify EVERY single page of my passport (40 odd pages i think)or just the inside front cover, inside back cover and the pages that have the entry/exit stamps on?

EVERY SINGLE PAGE MUST BE CERTIFIED
That sounds bizarre - 40 pages certified??!!!

4. My birth certificate / NICOP card: is it useful to send attested copies of this or pointless? I guess they show sponsor identity and address so maybe useful

Yes you can send these in- No problem
OK

5. Letters / greeting cards: do members send envelopes and the contents or just the envelopes that show name of sender and recepient? (i hope its not the whole thing!

Yes it proves the letters etc were posted from abroad, whereas if you send it without envelope,for all we know you could have written letter in Pakistan and provided them as part of your application

OK but do I need to send contents too or will envelope be sufficient?

6. Pre-marriage contact: I have some pre-marriage contact with my fiancée. Would it help to submit this as it is a positive or am i opening doors for the ECO to be picky?) as you know there is no need to send pre-marriage contact but I just think its a strong point of my/any application

No need to send anything of teh sort asa you will just cause more problems in the long term

Batley - I am not married yet but I have current itemised billing that shows I send regular text messages to my fiance in the run up to marriage (to take place soon inshal Allah). Would it not be useful to show this? Recall I am handing in my case after I get married whilst i am in Pak insha Allah so no coming back to UK and sending documents and phone cards to my wife to submit case....

Thanks, in advance guys.

BatleyKhan - once i get response, I am happy to update your guide to take some time off your hands if you think it would be useful....

You cant add any comments to that post as it is locked - Sorry/

But feel free to pm me and I will update it
Ok, i'll do this once the answers are settled.

R

RHussain07 wrote:BatleyKhan, Members...

I have some questions before I compile my case and submit my application. I have been through the forum pages and BK’s notorious guide but these q’s still linger on as I'm not getting a clear answer on these....

1. Is it OK to print the VAF4 form off from the Gerrys website and use this? (I read here that we should collect it from the Gerrys VAC and use that...)

Yes and No depends who you believe.
OK - has anyone been failed because they used an internet version of the form?

2. NADRA card: im not married yet and my wife has her dads name on her ID card. Can I leave this on or should I change it to my name after we get married? We will make passport post marriage (with my name on)

Yes it is ok for the time being to leave her dads name. After marriage you can make anothe one with your (husbands ) name on it.
OK so handing a NADRA with dads name on it and passport with my name on it is not recommended?

If her Nadra card was made before marriage then it will have her fathers name on it. You can after marriage make another one and then add your name on it. Her passport will obviously have your name on it, if it was made after marriage ..... If you hand in appliaction with these , it it should not cause any problem


3. Passport: Do I certify EVERY single page of my passport (40 odd pages i think)or just the inside front cover, inside back cover and the pages that have the entry/exit stamps on?

EVERY SINGLE PAGE MUST BE CERTIFIED
That sounds bizarre - 40 pages certified??!!!

Yes thats correct, because I have seen a lot of refusals where people have deliberately missed a page or two out where it denoted refusal of entry to other countries which happened to be deciding factors in the case- Thats why copy every page, so the ECO dont have any comeback.


4. My birth certificate / NICOP card: is it useful to send attested copies of this or pointless? I guess they show sponsor identity and address so maybe useful

Yes you can send these in- No problem
OK

5. Letters / greeting cards: do members send envelopes and the contents or just the envelopes that show name of sender and recepient? (i hope its not the whole thing!

Yes it proves the letters etc were posted from abroad, whereas if you send it without envelope,for all we know you could have written letter in Pakistan and provided them as part of your application

OK but do I need to send contents too or will envelope be sufficient?

Of course you have to , you wouldnt send empty envelopes to them surely. The contents should be in the envelope which you should hand in with application

6. Pre-marriage contact: I have some pre-marriage contact with my fiancée. Would it help to submit this as it is a positive or am i opening doors for the ECO to be picky?) as you know there is no need to send pre-marriage contact but I just think its a strong point of my/any application

No need to send anything of teh sort asa you will just cause more problems in the long term

Batley - I am not married yet but I have current itemised billing that shows I send regular text messages to my fiance in the run up to marriage (to take place soon inshal Allah). Would it not be useful to show this? Recall I am handing in my case after I get married whilst i am in Pak insha Allah so no coming back to UK and sending documents and phone cards to my wife to submit case....

Sorry I misread this bit, I thought it said PRE-MARRIAGE CONTRACT that is why i advised you the way I did. Having read it again and understood it correctly, yes you should send as much proof of teh contact between you and your fiancee with your application to show it is genuine ..... sorry about that

Thanks, in advance guys.

BatleyKhan - once i get response, I am happy to update your guide to take some time off your hands if you think it would be useful....

You cant add any comments to that post as it is locked - Sorry/

But feel free to pm me and I will update it
Ok, i'll do this once the answers are settled.

R

I have recently got ILR (Indefinite Visa - Permenant Residence) and reside in UK

Assuming the lady forgets to add these pages, can this possibly be a basis for rejection? Doesn't make any sense to me....

imur69er wrote:Hello Gurus and Moderators and ACTIVE members ...

Some Help needed!

I have recently got ILR (Indefinite Visa - Permenant Residence) and reside in UK.

Me and my wife are preparing all the documents already mentioned in this thread by vital members like moon and others and also in the guidance of the forms.

Is there a possibility for my wife to apply directly for a settlement visa or does it only has to be a spouse visa application?

My wife is with me in UK these days but on a VISIT VISA (which she recently got from paksitan). Can this be a plus point for her application as she already has visited UK and her file/case would have been already in the UK High Commissions/Home Offices database?

As far as I think are the following documents sufficent?

1) My Bank Statement of last 1 year
2) My Pay slips for last 3 months
3) My employment letter from my company
4) Tenancy Agreement
5) My Visa and Passport copy (does it has to be certified by a solicitor? just the visa copy and the main details page or every single page of the passport - which doesnt seems to be sensible?)
6) Copies of my wife's UK Visit visa
7) Her Bank Statements
The only communication which we had were EMAILS and FEW PHONE CALLS (direct from the LYCA mobile - cant get bills as its pay as u go)

What other documents would be important to send?

Please response back at your earliest as replies to this would be realy helpful to other members like me.

My Visa and Passport copy (does it has to be certified by a solicitor? just the visa copy and the main details page or every single page of the passport - which doesnt seems to be sensible?)