Spousal Visa Application - Pakistan

imur69er · Post by **imur69er** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:19 pm

@ batleykhan ...

thanks a lot for all that vital information you have ...

very impressive bro ...

thanks again ...

do u have a similar information syntax for widowed mothers applying for settlement from pak?

imur69er · Post by **imur69er** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:20 pm

and the certifying of each page of the passport has to be from a solicitor based in UK not from PAK right?

immigrationuk2009 · Post by **immigrationuk2009** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:36 pm

imur69er wrote:and the certifying of each page of the passport has to be from a solicitor based in UK not from PAK right?

It depends If there is a Pakistani Passport then it should be certified from Pakitsan and If British then It should be certified from Britain.

If you are a sponsor then your whole passport should be certified..If application then first 2 pages would be ok.

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c4551m · Post by **c4551m** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:48 pm

HI
My wife applied for tier 4 student dependent today in Pakistan , i tried my best to provide all required documents.
The lady on the counter said it take only 2 weks to get reply now a days.
Hope shes right and inshaAllah positive reply .

will keep u guys updated

immigrationuk2009 · Post by **immigrationuk2009** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:55 pm

Hi

c4551m wrote:HI
My wife applied for tier 4 student dependent today in Pakistan , i tried my best to provide all required documents.
The lady on the counter said it take only 2 weks to get reply now a days.
Hope shes right and inshaAllah positive reply .

will keep u guys updated

If lady has said it takes 2 minutes to get reply then you have believed.

2 weeks for visa in Pakistan...can you belive this?

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batleykhan · Post by **batleykhan** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:08 pm

imur69er wrote:and the certifying of each page of the passport has to be from a solicitor based in UK not from PAK right?

Must be done in UK by a Notary or Solicitor (British sponsor passport of course). Thye tend to be more reliable than those in Pak if you know what I mean.( No need to certify wifes passport in Pakistan)

As for widowed mothers cases its a lot complicated and very very difficult to get. I can give you details if you require them

imur69er · Post by **imur69er** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:39 pm

@ batleykhan

i have got pakistani passport, do i need to get it certified by UK solicitors or from pak lawyers in pak would be ok?

batleykhan · Post by **batleykhan** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:57 pm

imur69er wrote:@ batleykhan

i have got pakistani passport, do i need to get it certified by UK solicitors or from pak lawyers in pak would be ok?

If you are in the UK, then its done by solicitor here in the UK(irrespective of which ever passport you hold)

RHussain07 · Post by **RHussain07** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:09 pm

Batley i've stripped down this post to the follow on questions from the previous 2,3 pages.

1. Do I attest EACH page of my passport of my wife-to-be's passport?

2. Does every copy in the application have to be attested? i.e. copy of P60 etc, my Pak id card, birth certificate copy

3. re. my pre-marriage communication history...
some of the letters i have sent my fiance (soon wife to be inshaAllah) have her dads name on the envelope and her sim is in her dads name. How do i explain this?

4. I have noticed this on the Gerrys website? - do I need one or is it for non-spouse settlement applications only which is appears to say.
http://www.ukvacpk.com/supporting-doc.aspx

5. is it useful to send utility bills i.e., council tax bill for accomodation evidence despite having land registery doc, property survey from solicitor and statutory declaration from parents

Thank you, in advance for your assistance.

sabeen · Post by **sabeen** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:51 pm

Jameel17 wrote:
17F4N wrote:submitted my docs on 8th January. Will be roughly 6 weeks tomorrow. The huge envelope which arrived today just had 2 things in it, the nikkah khuwani and the english translated version. Nothing else.
How strange is that.. Did your partner get a letter or something? Have tried contacting UK Visa Section..

I know people have started to receive a letter confirming that they have got their visa and to submit their passport to the gerry office.

It is beyond a frustrating point...

My wife has got no letter yet nor have I contacted UK visa[/quote]

I have received my original documents today and a letter from AIT saying that the correspondent has withdrawn the original deceision. do u know how long they are going to take to issue the letter from isb and visa, and whats the exact process

17F4N · Post by **17F4N** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:03 am

sabeen wrote:
Jameel17 wrote:
17F4N wrote:submitted my docs on 8th January. Will be roughly 6 weeks tomorrow. The huge envelope which arrived today just had 2 things in it, the nikkah khuwani and the english translated version. Nothing else.
How strange is that.. Did your partner get a letter or something? Have tried contacting UK Visa Section..

I know people have started to receive a letter confirming that they have got their visa and to submit their passport to the gerry office.

It is beyond a frustrating point...
My wife has got no letter yet nor have I contacted UK visa

I have received my original documents today and a letter from AIT saying that the correspondent has withdrawn the original deceision. do u know how long they are going to take to issue the letter from isb and visa, and whats the exact process[/quote]

Wow your lucky i had nothing whatsoever.. I starting to think something is not right now..

Sabeen i assume your spouse should receive a letter in the coming week then you would need to take the letter along with the medical certificate and passport to your local Gerry office - not sure how long they will take to stamp the visa.

Just a quick question where did you submit your appeal document to? Was it to AIT or UK Visa Section in Croyden (UK)??

I had sent my documents to UK Visa Section in Croyden (UK) and got a feeling that i should have posted out to AIT instead..

batleykhan · Post by **batleykhan** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:18 pm

RHussain07 wrote:Batley i've stripped down this post to the follow on questions from the previous 2,3 pages.

1. Do I attest EACH page of my passport of my wife-to-be's passport?

No- not neccesary

2. Does every copy in the application have to be attested? i.e. copy of P60 etc, my Pak id card, birth certificate copy

No- All docs must be originals - only your passport will be cerified copies

3. re. my pre-marriage communication history...
some of the letters i have sent my fiance (soon wife to be inshaAllah) have her dads name on the envelope and her sim is in her dads name. How do i explain this?

It doesnt matter if its got her dads name. Tell them its not our tradition for boys or girls to send letters etc to each other before marriage.Most documents are posted to dads name as he will be more likely known in the villgae/town to the postman, rather some woman or girl

4. I have noticed this on the Gerrys website? - do I need one or is it for non-spouse settlement applications only which is appears to say.
http://www.ukvacpk.com/supporting-doc.aspx

If this is what you are talking about- then yes as you will be filling form VA4a
http://www.ukvacpk.com/images/settlement.pdf

5. is it useful to send utility bills i.e., council tax bill for accomodation evidence despite having land registery doc, property survey from solicitor and statutory declaration from parents

There is no harm in sending it if you want

Thank you, in advance for your assistance.

Hope this helps

RHussain07 · Post by **RHussain07** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:00 pm

batleykhan wrote:
RHussain07 wrote:Batley i've stripped down this post to the follow on questions from the previous 2,3 pages.

1. Do I attest EACH page of my passport of my wife-to-be's passport?

No- not neccesary --Batley - I thought you said I have to attest each page of my passport in your previous post on page 229...?

Lets get this right, you as the sponsor living in UK has to certify everypage of your British passport..Yor wife who is Pakistan does not have to certify her passport as she will have to send teh original

2. Does every copy in the application have to be attested? i.e. copy of P60 etc, my Pak id card, birth certificate copy

No- All docs must be originals - only your passport will be cerified copies I have more than just a Passport as a copy. My Birth Certificate and NICOP copy card are also on my list to include in my application. So would my question apply to these?

Only your wife in Pakistan has to hand her original passport and NICOP card. If you have a Nadra/nicop card here in UK, that is not required as part of the application

3. re. my pre-marriage communication history...
some of the letters i have sent my fiance (soon wife to be inshaAllah) have her dads name on the envelope and her sim is in her dads name. How do i explain this?

It doesnt matter if its got her dads name. Tell them its not our tradition for boys or girls to send letters etc to each other before marriage.Most documents are posted to dads name as he will be more likely known in the villgae/town to the postman, rather some woman or girl

4. I have noticed this on the Gerrys website? - do I need one or is it for non-spouse settlement applications only which is appears to say.
http://www.ukvacpk.com/supporting-doc.aspx

If this is what you are talking about- then yes as you will be filling form VA4a.
Batley no I was referring to my link not the checklist you refer to....what do you make of it?
http://www.ukvacpk.com/images/settlement.pdf[/color]
5. is it useful to send utility bills i.e., council tax bill for accomodation evidence despite having land registery doc, property survey from solicitor and statutory declaration from parents

There is no harm in sending it if you want

Thank you, in advance for your assistance.
Hope this helps

navalaviator · Post by **navalaviator** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:50 pm

Well why do we need to submit this chek list with the application!!!!!

http://www.ukvacpk.com/images/settlement.pdf

Is it necessary to provide this check list along with your application coz i have'nt heard about it before well i think that the gerry's staff do provide this check list to the applicants when submitting application and they tick the check boxes according to the documents being provided and they sign it and include it themselves with the application thats what i know well i could be wrong and Batley khan could give his more professional advice

billo · Post by **billo** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:08 pm

Hi Guys,
I have just been reading through this thread, very informative. I have a quick question - my brother's visa application was refused last month, he has appealed and is also submitting a fresh application. He made a right mess of his first application and was, i think, rightly refused. I'm helping him out with gathering info for this app. No my question is that on the VAF4 form he put that his relationship began in Jan 2005 - this is when his marriage was arranged by parents, and since then to when he married (Nov 2009) he has been in contact with wife over the phone (the dreaded calling cards I'm afraid). Because on the last form he put that his relationship began in 2005, does he have to provide evidence of contact etc from that date to present? They talked on the phone but it wasn't a relationship in the full sense of the word. He doesn't think he should change this on the new app to relationship started in Nov 2009 (when he married) as this might look dodgy. What are your views, especially the very infornative batleykahn shahib.

batleykhan · Post by **batleykhan** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:28 pm

billo wrote:Hi Guys,
I have just been reading through this thread, very informative. I have a quick question - my brother's visa application was refused last month, he has appealed and is also submitting a fresh application. He made a right mess of his first application and was, i think, rightly refused. I'm helping him out with gathering info for this app. No my question is that on the VAF4 form he put that his relationship began in Jan 2005 - this is when his marriage was arranged by parents, and since then to when he married (Nov 2009) he has been in contact with wife over the phone (the dreaded calling cards I'm afraid). Because on the last form he put that his relationship began in 2005, does he have to provide evidence of contact etc from that date to present? They talked on the phone but it wasn't a relationship in the full sense of the word. He doesn't think he should change this on the new app to relationship started in Nov 2009 (when he married) as this might look dodgy. What are your views, especially the very infornative batleykahn shahib.

What were the exact wording of the refusal the first time around?

batleykhan · Post by **batleykhan** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:32 pm

navalaviator wrote:Well why do we need to submit this chek list with the application!!!!!
http://www.ukvacpk.com/images/settlement.pdf

Is it necessary to provide this check list along with your application coz i have'nt heard about it before well i think that the gerry's staff do provide this check list to the applicants when submitting application and they tick the check boxes according to the documents being provided and they sign it and include it themselves with the application thats what i know well i could be wrong and Batley khan could give his more professional advice

It must be something that Gerrys have just recently introduced for reasons best known to them.

If you are given it at the time , then there is no harm filling it,all its asking is that you list teh documents down forboth your and their records ( I think there were rumours of lost passports and documents not only ago)

billo · Post by **billo** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:46 pm

Hi Batleykhan, I've just PM'd you the refusal's. Also I was just looking at brother's application and it also says that he started his part-time employment in 2005, he's just got a letter from his employer which says he started in 2004. I think he just guessed when filling in his application form.

amr2010 · Post by **amr2010** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:25 am

billo wrote:Hi Guys,
I have just been reading through this thread, very informative. I have a quick question - my brother's visa application was refused last month, he has appealed and is also submitting a fresh application. He made a right mess of his first application and was, i think, rightly refused. I'm helping him out with gathering info for this app. No my question is that on the VAF4 form he put that his relationship began in Jan 2005 - this is when his marriage was arranged by parents, and since then to when he married (Nov 2009) he has been in contact with wife over the phone (the dreaded calling cards I'm afraid). Because on the last form he put that his relationship began in 2005, does he have to provide evidence of contact etc from that date to present? They talked on the phone but it wasn't a relationship in the full sense of the word. He doesn't think he should change this on the new app to relationship started in Nov 2009 (when he married) as this might look dodgy. What are your views, especially the very infornative batleykahn shahib.

In my application I wrote that my relationship began in July when the engagement took place. I was actually in the UK at the time. In my sponsor covering letter (in my opinion a vital document) I stated "my wife I were engaged in July while I was in the UK, with our consultation and consent". This ties the dates together.

batleykhan · Post by **batleykhan** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:35 pm

The relationship normally begins when you are first introduced to each other physiaclly.It then goes to the engagement bit and eventually ends up in marriage.

It does not mean when you got married and started your relationship as husband and wife.

You obviously have to privide proof your relationship began and the best way for this is to produce a copy of your passport showing when and where you entered the country that your other half was resident

RHussain07 · Post by **RHussain07** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:14 pm

Batley, Members,

I wasnt referring to the checklist but this sponspor doc form that has appeared on Gerrrys website:

http://www.ukvacpk.com/images/sponsorform.pdf

It seems to imply its for non-spouse settlement applications but want to double check...

billo · Post by **billo** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:22 pm

thanks guys,

so if the realtionship began in 2005, and entry/ exit stamp is sufficient,does brother also require evidence of ongoing contact from 2005 to present?
He will do sponsor letter, and parents will also do supporting letter saying his marriage was arranged. he's hesitant to use the word 'engaged' as they didn't have a formal engagement with the exchanging of rings. The proposal was taken to the wifes family who accepted.

zoomaj · Post by **zoomaj** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:17 pm

Hello guys just a quick question,

How do we go about applying for a National insurance number for the wife who has come from abroad?? and getting them registered to a doctor??

Kind regards

sabeen · Post by **sabeen** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:38 pm

17F4N wrote:
sabeen wrote:
Jameel17 wrote:
17F4N wrote:submitted my docs on 8th January. Will be roughly 6 weeks tomorrow. The huge envelope which arrived today just had 2 things in it, the nikkah khuwani and the english translated version. Nothing else.
How strange is that.. Did your partner get a letter or something? Have tried contacting UK Visa Section..

I know people have started to receive a letter confirming that they have got their visa and to submit their passport to the gerry office.

It is beyond a frustrating point...
My wife has got no letter yet nor have I contacted UK visa
I have received my original documents today and a letter from AIT saying that the correspondent has withdrawn the original deceision. do u know how long they are going to take to issue the letter from isb and visa, and whats the exact process

Wow your lucky i had nothing whatsoever.. I starting to think something is not right now..

Sabeen i assume your spouse should receive a letter in the coming week then you would need to take the letter along with the medical certificate and passport to your local Gerry office - not sure how long they will take to stamp the visa.

Just a quick question where did you submit your appeal document to? Was it to AIT or UK Visa Section in Croyden (UK)??

I had sent my documents to UK Visa Section in Croyden (UK) and got a feeling that i should have posted out to AIT instead..[/quote]

I sent all my docs to AIT loughborough, i had my mp involved in this thats why i think they responded soon...(2 months).

immigrationuk2009 · Post by **immigrationuk2009** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:41 pm

Hi

sabeen wrote:
17F4N wrote:
sabeen wrote:
Jameel17 wrote:
How strange is that.. Did your partner get a letter or something? Have tried contacting UK Visa Section..

I know people have started to receive a letter confirming that they have got their visa and to submit their passport to the gerry office.

It is beyond a frustrating point...
My wife has got no letter yet nor have I contacted UK visa
I have received my original documents today and a letter from AIT saying that the correspondent has withdrawn the original deceision. do u know how long they are going to take to issue the letter from isb and visa, and whats the exact process
Wow your lucky i had nothing whatsoever.. I starting to think something is not right now..

Sabeen i assume your spouse should receive a letter in the coming week then you would need to take the letter along with the medical certificate and passport to your local Gerry office - not sure how long they will take to stamp the visa.

Just a quick question where did you submit your appeal document to? Was it to AIT or UK Visa Section in Croyden (UK)??

I had sent my documents to UK Visa Section in Croyden (UK) and got a feeling that i should have posted out to AIT instead..

I sent all my docs to AIT loughborough, i had my mp involved in this thats why i think they responded soon...(2 months).[/quote]

If you want to get qucik status of your application email at

publicvisaenqs@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk

I got reply in just one day.So they are very quick and would forward you to relevant department.

Here is the reply we got

Thank you for your enquiry.

Our database shows that active processing of this application continues. The applicant will be contacted direct once a decision is made.

I am copying this exchange for information to my colleagues in our regional office in Abu Dhabi for information.

Sent by:
Public Enquiries , Visa Customer Services,
Visa Services Directorate, International Group UKBA,
c/o Lunar House, 40 Wellesley Road, Croydon CR9 2BY, England

Web-site: www.ukvisas.gov.uk

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