Spousal Visa Application - Pakistan

imur69er wrote:@ batleykhan

what is this TB Certificate? Where can we get it from? Any good hospital or it has to be linked to UK High Commission authorized?

my wife already has a visit visa (which is still valid), does she still needs to get TB certificate for the spouse visa application?

For spouse visa TB certificate is must.
You need to book appointment for your wife TB screening.

UK_Banned_Member

Thanks for help guys. One other question - asked the wife today if the Urdu nikah Nama was stamped by union council as I couldn't remember.
She has told me that there is a stamp but all she can read is the words "nikah registrar".
Is this all it needs? Or do I need to get it restamped or get another copy were the stamp is clearer??

Hi Deemi

deemi wrote:Thanks for help guys. One other question - asked the wife today if the Urdu nikah Nama was stamped by union council as I couldn't remember.
She has told me that there is a stamp but all she can read is the words "nikah registrar".
Is this all it needs? Or do I need to get it restamped or get another copy were the stamp is clearer??

Every Nika nama is registered with Union Council.

I would advise get Niknama in English and then get it attested from Nortary Public+go to Nika Khahwan who did you Nika.He has stamped of Union Council so get it attested.


UK_Banned_Member

deemi wrote:
Thanks for help guys. One other question - asked the wife today if the Urdu nikah Nama was stamped by union council as I couldn't remember.
She has told me that there is a stamp but all she can read is the words "nikah registrar".
Is this all it needs? Or do I need to get it restamped or get another copy were the stamp is clearer??

Well the urdu nikkah nama must have a union council stamp on it as well as the mufti stamp(the person who carried out your nikkah ceremony).

As far as the english translation of nikkah nama is concerned any lawyer in the local court(kutchery) can certify it.
But i am not sure that the english translation of the nikkah nama needs to have a union council stamp on it as well?

But this what my understanding is about this nikkah nama stuff and Batley khan could give his professional advice

amr2010 wrote:My wife submitted her application on 24th Feb. Gerrys took her passport from her and said it had to be submitted with the application in order for it to be stamps (if the application was approved). Did anyone else get asked to submit it?

Also how do I track her application, she has given me two numbers; one starting "GRY" and the other "LHE". I put both numbers into the tracking page on the Gerrys website but they are not accepted.

Jazakallah

Can't comment on your first question, but the VFS website seems to be down as I can't track my application either. The ref to use is the longer one which would include 3 forward slashes ( / ), and you can find it printed just above the passport number.

Zak.

immigrationuk2009 wrote:Hi Deemi

deemi wrote:Thanks for help guys. One other question - asked the wife today if the Urdu nikah Nama was stamped by union council as I couldn't remember.
She has told me that there is a stamp but all she can read is the words "nikah registrar".
Is this all it needs? Or do I need to get it restamped or get another copy were the stamp is clearer??

Every Nika nama is registered with Union Council.

I would advise get Niknama in English and then get it attested from Nortary Public+go to Nika Khahwan who did you Nika.He has stamped of Union Council so get it attested.


UK_Banned_Member

Hi,

Please note that ONLY nikah nama issued in pakistan require registration with the union council and not nikah khuwani (marriage cert issued in ajk).

In azad kashmir the the union conucil is no longer in charge of registering marriage and nikah namah has been replaced with nikah khuwani that must be registered with the mufti office ONLY. (the person carrying the nikah will do this on your behalf)

Therefore if your marriage occured last year in azad kashmir you should have been issued a nikah khuwanni and not nikah namah. However the nikah khuwanni must clearly show the mufti stamp (this is only required)

There was an issue previously regarding this - people visas were being refused for submitting nikah khuwani which wasnt registered with the union council. This however has now been clarified and nikah khuwani with the mufti stamp is now an acceptable proof of marriage.

So if your marriage was in azad kashmir and you have a nikah khuwani not nikah namah. Nikah khuwani does not have to be registered with the union council

The nikah khuwani/nikah nama must be translated and attested by the courts in pakistan. will charge 400 rupees. (if you can read urdu then you can translate the nikah namah/ khuwanni your self and then get it attested to state " that it is a true translated copy of the original". Template can be obtained from the internet.

No requirment to get mufti/union council stamp on the translated copy.

I hope this clarifies the situation concerning nikha namah and nikah khuwanni.

thanks

Usman

please could someone provide me the contact number and email address of croydon for settlement visa applied in pakistan cuz some say
islamabad oc mean sent oversea center

shaz1980 wrote:please could someone provide me the contact number and email address of croydon for settlement visa applied in pakistan cuz some say
islamabad oc mean sent oversea center

No OC means Official Courier.

Dont confused with this message.

Everybody who submits application get this message.

UK_Banned_Member

ukusman wrote:

immigrationuk2009 wrote:Hi Deemi

deemi wrote:Thanks for help guys. One other question - asked the wife today if the Urdu nikah Nama was stamped by union council as I couldn't remember.
She has told me that there is a stamp but all she can read is the words "nikah registrar".
Is this all it needs? Or do I need to get it restamped or get another copy were the stamp is clearer??

Every Nika nama is registered with Union Council.

I would advise get Niknama in English and then get it attested from Nortary Public+go to Nika Khahwan who did you Nika.He has stamped of Union Council so get it attested.


UK_Banned_Member

Hi,

Please note that ONLY nikah nama issued in pakistan require registration with the union council and not nikah khuwani (marriage cert issued in ajk).

In azad kashmir the the union conucil is no longer in charge of registering marriage and nikah namah has been replaced with nikah khuwani that must be registered with the mufti office ONLY. (the person carrying the nikah will do this on your behalf)

Therefore if your marriage occured last year in azad kashmir you should have been issued a nikah khuwanni and not nikah namah. However the nikah khuwanni must clearly show the mufti stamp (this is only required)

There was an issue previously regarding this - people visas were being refused for submitting nikah khuwani which wasnt registered with the union council. This however has now been clarified and nikah khuwani with the mufti stamp is now an acceptable proof of marriage.

So if your marriage was in azad kashmir and you have a nikah khuwani not nikah namah. Nikah khuwani does not have to be registered with the union council

The nikah khuwani/nikah nama must be translated and attested by the courts in pakistan. will charge 400 rupees. (if you can read urdu then you can translate the nikah namah/ khuwanni your self and then get it attested to state " that it is a true translated copy of the original". Template can be obtained from the internet.

No requirment to get mufti/union council stamp on the translated copy.

I hope this clarifies the situation concerning nikha namah and nikah khuwanni.

thanks

Usman

@ukusman

You are outdated.This is old information.Now British Embassy has said that they accept both Nikanam and Nika Khawni.This happened after lot of refusal from Azad Kashmir and even home office has set a special appeal address for those who were refused on this basic.


UK_Banned_Member

Zak_K wrote:

amr2010 wrote:My wife submitted her application on 24th Feb. Gerrys took her passport from her and said it had to be submitted with the application in order for it to be stamps (if the application was approved). Did anyone else get asked to submit it?

Also how do I track her application, she has given me two numbers; one starting "GRY" and the other "LHE". I put both numbers into the tracking page on the Gerrys website but they are not accepted.

Jazakallah

Can't comment on your first question, but the VFS website seems to be down as I can't track my application either. The ref to use is the longer one which would include 3 forward slashes ( / ), and you can find it printed just above the passport number.

Zak.

You would enter number starting with LHE....


UK_Banned_Member

immigrationuk2009 wrote:

ukusman wrote:

immigrationuk2009 wrote:Hi Deemi

deemi wrote:Thanks for help guys. One other question - asked the wife today if the Urdu nikah Nama was stamped by union council as I couldn't remember.
She has told me that there is a stamp but all she can read is the words "nikah registrar".
Is this all it needs? Or do I need to get it restamped or get another copy were the stamp is clearer??

Every Nika nama is registered with Union Council.

I would advise get Niknama in English and then get it attested from Nortary Public+go to Nika Khahwan who did you Nika.He has stamped of Union Council so get it attested.


UK_Banned_Member

Hi,

Please note that ONLY nikah nama issued in pakistan require registration with the union council and not nikah khuwani (marriage cert issued in ajk).

In azad kashmir the the union conucil is no longer in charge of registering marriage and nikah namah has been replaced with nikah khuwani that must be registered with the mufti office ONLY. (the person carrying the nikah will do this on your behalf)

Therefore if your marriage occured last year in azad kashmir you should have been issued a nikah khuwanni and not nikah namah. However the nikah khuwanni must clearly show the mufti stamp (this is only required)

There was an issue previously regarding this - people visas were being refused for submitting nikah khuwani which wasnt registered with the union council. This however has now been clarified and nikah khuwani with the mufti stamp is now an acceptable proof of marriage.

So if your marriage was in azad kashmir and you have a nikah khuwani not nikah namah. Nikah khuwani does not have to be registered with the union council

The nikah khuwani/nikah nama must be translated and attested by the courts in pakistan. will charge 400 rupees. (if you can read urdu then you can translate the nikah namah/ khuwanni your self and then get it attested to state " that it is a true translated copy of the original". Template can be obtained from the internet.

No requirment to get mufti/union council stamp on the translated copy.

I hope this clarifies the situation concerning nikha namah and nikah khuwanni.

thanks

Usman

@ukusman

You are outdated.This is old information.Now British Embassy has said that they accept both Nikanam and Nika Khawni.This happened after lot of refusal from Azad Kashmir and even home office has set a special appeal address for those who were refused on this basic.


UK_Banned_Member

Hi Uk IM,

Im aware of this if you look at the follwoing quote in my post

"There was an issue previously regarding this - people visas were being refused for submitting nikah khuwani which wasnt registered with the union council. This however has now been clarified and nikah khuwani with the mufti stamp is now an acceptable proof of marriage"

It states that this has been now clarified and bhc released press realase regarding nikah khuwanni.

What i am saying is that if you got married in ajk and have a nikah khuwanni there is no requirment for it to be registered with the union council. The mufti stamp is sufficient. But however if there is a nikah namah issued in mainland pakistan it MUST be registered with the union council.

Hope this now clarified everything

thanks
usman

immigrationuk2009 wrote:Hi Amr Bhai

amr2010 wrote:Asalaam alakium deemi

I have read over you list and have a few points for you:

DVD - don't include it, they will either bin it or now allow your wife to take it into the application centre.
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Calling cards -
Texts - I am in the same situation. Remember they want to see that your marriage is genuine so include the latest bill/list you can. I have vodafone which allowed me to print all e-bills. It might be worth printing the webpage if you can.

Make sure you/she photocopys of all her documents (passport, id card etc) and takes them with her.

Passport photos - you need 4 (i think)

Get your employer to update the letter, you may have been made redundant for all they know.

Update solicior letter too

Write a Statement of sponsorship - This is written by you to state you intend to sponor your wife, cover travel expenses and living expenses. State where you will live etc and re-state you employment details. Sign it and ask your solicitor to counter sign it

Detail why mums allowance is paid into your account

Hope this helps

You can track your application by three ways.

1.Online Web Tracking.
Go to web site www.ukvacpk.com then go to track your passport option.
You would enter your application ref starting for example LHE/111209/112867/1
then you would enter your birth date like 23-04-1980

It would display result like Application submitted to Islamabad Bc on

Here is link for you information.

https://www.vfsglobal.org/UKG-PassportT ... /ddzHqXg==


2.By Phone

You can ring number

Telephone enquiries

For PTCL land lines: 090010411
From UK: 00 92 51 2098999
All mobile providers dial short code: 8865

and ask for your application status.

3.Send them email to different address and ask for your application status.


Hope answer the question


UK_Banned_Member

Thanks UK_Banned_Member I have manged to log on, the status is "Application Forwarded to Islamabad OC on"

thanks UK_Banned_Member and BATLEYKHAN

Hi,

Great thread, wish I'd found it before I got married! May have put me off and I'd be footloose and fancy free

I'm currently in the UK but plan on travelling to Pakistan to bring my wife back with me when she gets the thumbs up in shaa Allah. I was wondering if it is prudent/beneficial in the slightest to go to Pakistan and accompany my wife when she submits her application (seeing as I'm going to be there at one point or another anyway). I'd only have say 2 weeks though and of course turn around times are erratic.

Yay? Nay? I've somehow built an impression that applications with both partners present tend to be quicker and successful

Thanks

(and yes, I do like smilies!)

ukusman wrote:

immigrationuk2009 wrote:

ukusman wrote:

immigrationuk2009 wrote:Hi Deemi




Every Nika nama is registered with Union Council.

I would advise get Niknama in English and then get it attested from Nortary Public+go to Nika Khahwan who did you Nika.He has stamped of Union Council so get it attested.


UK_Banned_Member

Hi,

Please note that ONLY nikah nama issued in pakistan require registration with the union council and not nikah khuwani (marriage cert issued in ajk).

In azad kashmir the the union conucil is no longer in charge of registering marriage and nikah namah has been replaced with nikah khuwani that must be registered with the mufti office ONLY. (the person carrying the nikah will do this on your behalf)

Therefore if your marriage occured last year in azad kashmir you should have been issued a nikah khuwanni and not nikah namah. However the nikah khuwanni must clearly show the mufti stamp (this is only required)

There was an issue previously regarding this - people visas were being refused for submitting nikah khuwani which wasnt registered with the union council. This however has now been clarified and nikah khuwani with the mufti stamp is now an acceptable proof of marriage.

So if your marriage was in azad kashmir and you have a nikah khuwani not nikah namah. Nikah khuwani does not have to be registered with the union council

The nikah khuwani/nikah nama must be translated and attested by the courts in pakistan. will charge 400 rupees. (if you can read urdu then you can translate the nikah namah/ khuwanni your self and then get it attested to state " that it is a true translated copy of the original". Template can be obtained from the internet.

No requirment to get mufti/union council stamp on the translated copy.

I hope this clarifies the situation concerning nikha namah and nikah khuwanni.

thanks

Usman

@ukusman

You are outdated.This is old information.Now British Embassy has said that they accept both Nikanam and Nika Khawni.This happened after lot of refusal from Azad Kashmir and even home office has set a special appeal address for those who were refused on this basic.


UK_Banned_Member

Hi Uk IM,

Im aware of this if you look at the follwoing quote in my post

"There was an issue previously regarding this - people visas were being refused for submitting nikah khuwani which wasnt registered with the union council. This however has now been clarified and nikah khuwani with the mufti stamp is now an acceptable proof of marriage"

It states that this has been now clarified and bhc released press realase regarding nikah khuwanni.

What i am saying is that if you got married in ajk and have a nikah khuwanni there is no requirment for it to be registered with the union council. The mufti stamp is sufficient. But however if there is a nikah namah issued in mainland pakistan it MUST be registered with the union council.

Hope this now clarified everything

thanks
usman

Hi Usman

Thanks bro for clearing.

You are right.

UK_Banned_Member

Hi

kaidee wrote:Hi,

Great thread, wish I'd found it before I got married! May have put me off and I'd be footloose and fancy free

I'm currently in the UK but plan on travelling to Pakistan to bring my wife back with me when she gets the thumbs up in shaa Allah. I was wondering if it is prudent/beneficial in the slightest to go to Pakistan and accompany my wife when she submits her application (seeing as I'm going to be there at one point or another anyway). I'd only have say 2 weeks though and of course turn around times are erratic.

Yay? Nay? I've somehow built an impression that applications with both partners present tend to be quicker and successful

Thanks

(and yes, I do like smilies!)

No any plus point.Vac application centre act like courier.They have no authority to issue visa or influence on visa.They simply collect your application and forward to Islamabad.

British Embassy would not know that you both went to submit application.

This is really funny thing.
You can have two week holidays to spend with your wife but going together to submit application is not going to help you.Simple is that

Even I am afraid you would not be able to get into Vac Building with your wife.May be you need special permission for that.


So no point of thinking to going and submitting application together.

UK_Banned_Member

I've been trawling through the last 70+ pages of the forum and came across some members who suggested getting bank statements stamped by Bank Manager...

isn't this abit OTT? - you only should certify a copy so why are we considering certifying bank statements?!

I think people are getting bank statements stamped by manager if they are printouts from people who have online accounts or people who want to send absolutley up to date bank statments i.e they've ordred the last 6 months and these take a couple of weeks to be delivered so when couple of weeks that have elapsed in the time it takes for statements to reach them, they will get bank to print out on their computer and stamp them. There is no need to stamp original bank statements/ get them certified.

Oly documents that need to be certified are copies of originals. No need to certify originals as that clearly does not make sense.

HI

RHussain07 wrote:I've been trawling through the last 70+ pages of the forum and came across some members who suggested getting bank statements stamped by Bank Manager...

isn't this abit OTT? - you only should certify a copy so why are we considering certifying bank statements?!

May be you mislead yourself with statements taken from internet or bank cash machine as they need to be certify from bank.

Otherwise there is no requirement for orgional statement to be certify if they meet the following requirements.

1.Have Clear Bank Logo
2.Have applicant name and address.

But If you are applying from bank then it would be good to get attested orgional bank statement from bank.As Islamabad BHC is good in making refusal with silly reasons.

Best Luck

UK_Banned_Member

In my case I asked my online bank to send a letter direct to my solicitor giving my name, address, how long I had banked with them and listing all of the accounts (with numbers) that I held with them. They charged £10 but it was easier than getting the printed statements attested as I bank online with First Direct PLC.

This was absolutely acceptable as support for the printouts which, providing you don't tamper with them, should show the URL and date printed along the bottom of the page and be in chronological order.

billo wrote:I think people are getting bank statements stamped by manager if they are printouts from people who have online accounts or people who want to send absolutley up to date bank statments i.e they've ordred the last 6 months and these take a couple of weeks to be delivered so when couple of weeks that have elapsed in the time it takes for statements to reach them, they will get bank to print out on their computer and stamp them. There is no need to stamp original bank statements/ get them certified.

Oly documents that need to be certified are copies of originals. No need to certify originals as that clearly does not make sense.

Thanks. Yes I did give it some though after I had posted this and came to the same conclusion. They're orignals and not from an internet bank/printouts from online account etc so this should be ok. I have my work contract which has been photocopied from my personnel file. If all photocopies must be attested, how about something like work contract? - same apply here too?

Hi

RHussain07 wrote:

billo wrote:I think people are getting bank statements stamped by manager if they are printouts from people who have online accounts or people who want to send absolutley up to date bank statments i.e they've ordred the last 6 months and these take a couple of weeks to be delivered so when couple of weeks that have elapsed in the time it takes for statements to reach them, they will get bank to print out on their computer and stamp them. There is no need to stamp original bank statements/ get them certified.

Oly documents that need to be certified are copies of originals. No need to certify originals as that clearly does not make sense.

Thanks. Yes I did give it some though after I had posted this and came to the same conclusion. They're orignals and not from an internet bank/printouts from online account etc so this should be ok. I have my work contract which has been photocopied from my personnel file. If all photocopies must be attested, how about something like work contract? - same apply here too?

Then you work permit copy should be attested from your employer.

Every photocopy should be attested.Otherwise home office can refuse saying this is not orgional.

UK_Banned_Member

RHUSSAIN,
Why don't you get your employer to write you a letter (on thier headed papera) saying when you started your job title whether the postion is permanant, full-time/part-time, and your salary.

I think this should suffice for the ECO's purposes.

billo wrote:RHUSSAIN,
Why don't you get your employer to write you a letter (on thier headed papera) saying when you started your job title whether the postion is permanant, full-time/part-time, and your salary.

I think this should suffice for the ECO's purposes.

Yes a good idea.

UK_Banned_Member

Hi Billo,

Yes I have already requested the letter but the employment contract copy was available to me also by the HR dept so I just asked for it.

BatleyK - what do you think?

Also if i am going pak and taking paperwork with me, then getting married, would I need my new entry stamp photocopying and attesting from Pak (obviously I cant do this now coz i dont have one) or are the current stamps in my passport sufficient?

Thanks